Re: Last release for 3420s?
On 6/8/09 17:05 Michael Harding said:
The early Hollywood depictions tended to feature card sorters or
collators, only occasionally tape drives. Had to have some sort of
visible action. I remember one though ("Goliath", I think) about a
computer that was taking over the world, which had a room whose walls
were covered with panels of flashing lights and a control console I
recognized as an IBM 1620.
Close, it was "Colossus: The Forbin Project" from the early 70's. I was
programming on a 1620 at the time, and the idea that they would have butchered
such a sweet (decimal) machine to make props for a movie, offended the living
hell out of me. Seems to me most of the other hardware was CDC.
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Re: Last release for 3420s?
Yeah, I really laughed at that. They memorize the lines and recite them with a straight face but usually the technical content is just silly. As the character Janice said in one of the episodes to another FBI person "yes, I need you to open up a fresh socket for me" ROF LOL ! And last season on 24, they had a couple of episodes where they were supposedly reprogramming the "mainframe" by pulling cards and tinkering with them. When they went into the "mainframe room", all that was in there was a couple of racks of Cisco switches. snip Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: Last release for 3420s?
And last season on 24, they had a couple of episodes where they were supposedly
reprogramming the "mainframe" by pulling cards and tinkering with them. When
they went into the "mainframe room", all that was in there was a couple of
racks of Cisco switches. Of course, Cisco was a sponsor of the show, and
supplied all of the technical advice and hardware for the show.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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The early Hollywood depictions tended to feature card sorters or collators,
only occasionally tape drives. Had to have some sort of visible action. I
remember one though ("Goliath", I think) about a computer that was taking over
the world, which had a room whose walls were covered with panels of flashing
lights and a control console I recognized as an IBM 1620.
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The IBM z/VM Operating System wrote on 06/05/2009
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> On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton
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> > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in
> > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and
> > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding.
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> You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as a "cultural
> icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about computers. I suppose you're
> already checked with the Smithsonian and Walt Disney World. :-)
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> Alan Altmark
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Re: Last release for 3420s?
The early Hollywood depictions tended to feature card sorters or collators,
only occasionally tape drives. Had to have some sort of visible action. I
remember one though ("Goliath", I think) about a computer that was taking
over the world, which had a room whose walls were covered with panels of
flashing lights and a control console I recognized as an IBM 1620.
--
Mike Harding
z/VM System Support
mhard...@us.ibm.com
mike.b.hard...@kp.org
mikehard...@mindless.com
(925) 926-3179 (w)
(925) 457-9183 (c)
IM: VMBearDad (AIM), mbhcpcvt (Y!)
The IBM z/VM Operating System wrote on 06/05/2009
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> On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton
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> > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in
> > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and
> > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding.
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> You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as a "cultural
> icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about computers. I suppose you're
> already checked with the Smithsonian and Walt Disney World. :-)
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
Re: Last release for 3420s?
I figured that, else why ask? Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:03 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Last release for 3420s? > > They are still in use here. > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > >>> "Schuh, Richard" 6/5/2009 2:19 PM >>> > Also check the marinas for those being used as boat anchors. :-) > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:37 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: Last release for 3420s? > > > > On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton > > wrote: > > > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to > any home, in > > > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the > labor and > > > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding. > > > > You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as a > > "cultural icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about computers. I > > suppose you're already checked with the Smithsonian and Walt Disney > > World. :-) > > > > Alan Altmark > > z/VM Development > > IBM Endicott > > >
Re: Last release for 3420s?
They are still in use here. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> "Schuh, Richard" 6/5/2009 2:19 PM >>> Also check the marinas for those being used as boat anchors. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:37 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Last release for 3420s? > > On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton > wrote: > > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in > > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and > > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding. > > You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as > a "cultural icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about > computers. I suppose you're already checked with the > Smithsonian and Walt Disney World. :-) > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >
Re: Last release for 3420s?
Hum, if I had to use a 3420, I'd likely get a SCSI version. Attach that to a FlexCUB controller. Have the FlexCUB emulate a 3490 drive on disk, then later copy the data to the 3420 via a FlexCUB command. Do the reverse to come the other way. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: Last release for 3420s?
Also check the marinas for those being used as boat anchors. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:37 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Last release for 3420s? > > On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton > wrote: > > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in > > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and > > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding. > > You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as > a "cultural icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about > computers. I suppose you're already checked with the > Smithsonian and Walt Disney World. :-) > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >
Re: Last release for 3420s?
On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 02:21 EDT, Adam Thornton wrote: > There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in > fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and > all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding. You would think that some Hollywood museum would want them as a "cultural icon" for 1st-generation movies with/about computers. I suppose you're already checked with the Smithsonian and Walt Disney World. :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Last release for 3420s?
On Jun 5, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Stephen Frazier wrote: Some people who have tried 3420's on z/VM 5.3 said they work. However IBM is no longer testing 3420 code and if it ever stops working they may not fix it. Finding the actual 3420 hardware that still works is getting difficult. :) There's some in Virginia free to a good home. Free to any home, in fact. Just take it away. As long as you provide all the labor and all the transport, it's yours. Not kidding. Adam
Re: Last release for 3420s?
Alan Altmark wrote: On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 11:17 EDT, Lee Stewart wrote: Do I recall right that the last VM release to support 3420 type tapes was z/VM 4.4? Was that just CMS that no longer supports them, or both CP & CMS? Whatever the release was, it was a z/VM statement covering all components. However, no code was harmed in the making of that announcement. All it means is that we're no longer maintaining the 3420 code and if something doesn't work quite right, we're under no obligation to fix it. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott Some people who have tried 3420's on z/VM 5.3 said they work. However IBM is no longer testing 3420 code and if it ever stops working they may not fix it. Finding the actual 3420 hardware that still works is getting difficult. :) -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Last release for 3420s?
Alan Altmark wrote: However, no code was harmed in the making of that announcement. Thanks Alan, that's what I was really hoping... Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: Last release for 3420s?
On Friday, 06/05/2009 at 11:17 EDT, Lee Stewart wrote: > Do I recall right that the last VM release to support 3420 type tapes > was z/VM 4.4? Was that just CMS that no longer supports them, or both > CP & CMS? Whatever the release was, it was a z/VM statement covering all components. However, no code was harmed in the making of that announcement. All it means is that we're no longer maintaining the 3420 code and if something doesn't work quite right, we're under no obligation to fix it. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Last release for 3420s?
Yes, z/VM 4.4 was the last release across the board (CP, CMS, etc.). Steve Wilkins IBM z/VM I/O Development Strategy & Architecture From: Lee Stewart To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 06/05/2009 11:16 AM Subject:Last release for 3420s? Do I recall right that the last VM release to support 3420 type tapes was z/VM 4.4? Was that just CMS that no longer supports them, or both CP & CMS? Thanks, Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Last release for 3420s?
Do I recall right that the last VM release to support 3420 type tapes was z/VM 4.4? Was that just CMS that no longer supports them, or both CP & CMS? Thanks, Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
