Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-16 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
At some point, you may want to consider creating a 2nd level VM just for 
maintenance like this.

Once your VM system is deployed, you never want to apply maintenance to it 
directly, not even a PTF, without doing a "smoke test" first at level 2.





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Order PTF UV97540 and you will got lastest RSU for z/VM 5.4. (1008)
 
 
This is good advice and gets you most of the way. Since RSUs are 
collections of recommended service made at a specific point in time, make 
sure you also order the PSP bucket for that RSU to catch anything after 
the RSU date that wasn’t included on the RSU. 
 
Background: What you’re doing is three things: installing the base code, 
using the RSU to jump forward in time and apply all the service from the 
base up to the RSU date in one operation, and then layer any fixes that 
have been made after the RSU was closed. 
You’ve gotten the base code installed, and (if you want) you can use the 
RSU that you have to practice installing the RSU (when you get the new 
stacked RSU and PSP tapes, the SERVICE tool will figure out what you have 
already applied and just add the new stuff. 
 
Mother’s Rules of Thumb: 
 
1)  Never mix IBM stuff and your stuff. 
2)  Always take a backup of your entire MAINT id BEFORE you THINK 
about applying service
3)  Cupcakes get you faster responses to your service problems. 8-)
 
I’d strongly encourage you to just do a SERVICE ALL with the RSU and let 
the automated stuff process the service. If you aren’t using CMS for 
anything except maintaining the system, it does a pretty good job, and 
anything it can’t handle, you’re going to need to call IBM for help 
anyway.  The VM service tools are heap big magic even for us oldtimers. 
 
 



Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-10 Thread David Boyes

Order PTF UV97540 and you will got lastest RSU for z/VM 5.4. (1008)


This is good advice and gets you most of the way. Since RSUs are collections of 
recommended service made at a specific point in time, make sure you also order 
the PSP bucket for that RSU to catch anything after the RSU date that wasn't 
included on the RSU.

Background: What you're doing is three things: installing the base code, using 
the RSU to jump forward in time and apply all the service from the base up to 
the RSU date in one operation, and then layer any fixes that have been made 
after the RSU was closed.
You've gotten the base code installed, and (if you want) you can use the RSU 
that you have to practice installing the RSU (when you get the new stacked RSU 
and PSP tapes, the SERVICE tool will figure out what you have already applied 
and just add the new stuff.

Mother's Rules of Thumb:


1)  Never mix IBM stuff and your stuff.

2)  Always take a backup of your entire MAINT id BEFORE you THINK about 
applying service

3)  Cupcakes get you faster responses to your service problems. 8-)

I'd strongly encourage you to just do a SERVICE ALL with the RSU and let the 
automated stuff process the service. If you aren't using CMS for anything 
except maintaining the system, it does a pretty good job, and anything it can't 
handle, you're going to need to call IBM for help anyway.  The VM service tools 
are heap big magic even for us oldtimers.




Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-10 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

Sherry

Order PTF UV97540 and you will got lastest RSU for z/VM 5.4. (1008)
I did it eletronically and applied it a couple of days ago and a lot of 
PSP reported ptfs was installed.
You can use Auomated Installation and Service (I never tried!) or 
Service Guide (I used this, since I working with VM since 1980!)

Defenitly if you have a z10 machine you should apply RSU.

Good luck and enjoy.

Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Em 10/03/2011 12:12, Dave Jones escreveu:

Hi, Sherry.

Congratulations on getting z/VM 5.4 installed! What you should do next 
is order the latest z/VM 5.4 RSU (it's 5408RSU dated October 29,  
2010) from the z/VM web site and install that "on top of" 5.4. How to 
do that is described in Chapter 14 of the  z/VM: Guide for Automated 
Installation and Service publication.


Have a good one.

DJ

On 3/10/2011 9:02 AM, Sherry Everhart wrote:

I have installed our z/VM 5.4 system (YAY!).  It came with RSU 5404 from
June 2009, so that’s what I installed.  It has not yet been migrated.

Now I read the part in the z/VM Program Directory that says, “…you 
should
see if you received the most current Stacked RSU available.  If there 
is a
higher RSU available, or if you did not receive an RSU with your 
order and

there is now one available, you should order it and apply it when you
install z/VM.”

Well, since this is my first solo z/VM installation, I’m not quite sure
what I should do at this point to bring it completely up-to-date 
prior to

the migration steps.

Should I:

1. Order the latest stacked RSU (and then what… start over with the
installation?)
2. Order the PSP “buckets” for the three products we use whose 
SERVLVL is

higher, and apply just that service?

Suggestions?

Be gentle... the expert at anything was once a beginner.  :)

Thanks.

Sherry E.



Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-10 Thread Sherry Everhart
I've placed the order.

Thanks, Dave, for your help.

Sincerely,

Sherry E.


Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-10 Thread Dave Jones

Hi, Sherry.

Congratulations on getting z/VM 5.4 installed! What you should do next 
is order the latest z/VM 5.4 RSU (it's 5408RSU dated October 29,  2010) 
from the z/VM web site and install that "on top of" 5.4. How to do that 
is described in Chapter 14 of the  z/VM: Guide for Automated 
Installation and Service publication.


Have a good one.

DJ

On 3/10/2011 9:02 AM, Sherry Everhart wrote:

I have installed our z/VM 5.4 system (YAY!).  It came with RSU 5404 from
June 2009, so that’s what I installed.  It has not yet been migrated.

Now I read the part in the z/VM Program Directory that says, “…you should
see if you received the most current Stacked RSU available.  If there is a
higher RSU available, or if you did not receive an RSU with your order and
there is now one available, you should order it and apply it when you
install z/VM.”

Well, since this is my first solo z/VM installation, I’m not quite sure
what I should do at this point to bring it completely up-to-date prior to
the migration steps.

Should I:

1. Order the latest stacked RSU (and then what… start over with the
installation?)
2. Order the PSP “buckets” for the three products we use whose SERVLVL is
higher, and apply just that service?

Suggestions?

Be gentle... the expert at anything was once a beginner.  :)

Thanks.

Sherry E.



RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-10 Thread Sherry Everhart
I have installed our z/VM 5.4 system (YAY!).  It came with RSU 5404 from 

June 2009, so that’s what I installed.  It has not yet been migrated.

Now I read the part in the z/VM Program Directory that says, “…you sh
ould 
see if you received the most current Stacked RSU available.  If there is 
a 
higher RSU available, or if you did not receive an RSU with your order an
d 
there is now one available, you should order it and apply it when you 
install z/VM.” 

Well, since this is my first solo z/VM installation, I’m not quite sure
 
what I should do at this point to bring it completely up-to-date prior to
 
the migration steps.

Should I:

1. Order the latest stacked RSU (and then what… start over with the 
installation?)
2. Order the PSP “buckets” for the three products we use whose SERVLV
L is 
higher, and apply just that service?

Suggestions?

Be gentle... the expert at anything was once a beginner.  :)

Thanks.

Sherry E.