Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-20 Thread George Haddad
FWIW, we definitely ran ESA 2.30 on our MP2003. It was so long ago I 
can't recall if we needed a PTF for processor support or not, though.


Roland P. Chung wrote:

Hello all Listers, thanks to all. I think I should let you
guys know the outcome of this project.

With an IBM ROC helping me all afternoon yesterday, we
finally conclued that it may be because of VM/ESA 2.30 is
lecking maintenances to be able to handle the newer
hardware (MP2003 and IBM 2105-F20 Shark). The VM was been
instlled sometimes in October, 1998 and have no services
applied to it since. Talking about stable - VM is the best.
  


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-20 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hello all Listers, thanks to all. I think I should let you
guys know the outcome of this project.

With an IBM ROC helping me all afternoon yesterday, we
finally conclued that it may be because of VM/ESA 2.30 is
lecking maintenances to be able to handle the newer
hardware (MP2003 and IBM 2105-F20 Shark). The VM was been
instlled sometimes in October, 1998 and have no services
applied to it since. Talking about stable - VM is the best.

No matter how we twisted the IOCDS, we were getting the
exact DISABLED WAIT PSW. We felt that when CP sends out the
 reset to all the channels when IPLed, it went into
DISABLED WAIT because it does not understands the return
code coming back from the channel/hardware.

This is a great experience for me to be involved in the
middle of a 'lack of planning', 'cold turkey' CPU upgrade
project. They backs up the old O/S DASDs, shuts down the
old system, rolls in and installs the new hardware, and
starts restore. Hopefully the system would run just like in
the new hardware. No parallel...no testing... Ummm.

We recommanded to upgrade to VVM 4.40 and try again. This
time, I will do all the needed preparation before I drop in
again.

That is enough. I have been taken up a lot of the bandwidth
in this List lately.   Thanks again for all the help. You
guys are the greatest!

Regards,

...Roland

--- "Roland P. Chung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi George, I have 5 CPOWNED volumes. I have used ICKDSF
> to formated and DDR restored them all. The other 59 DASDs
> are for user DATA. I just put a volume number on.
>
>   The DISABLE WAIT PSW is 000A9025 - and the
> explaination is; "SCP initialiated reset of the I/O
> interface". Maybe something I should not have included in
> the IOCDS? Let me check.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   ...Roland  
> 
> George Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   If any - snipped  --


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Walter

SYSC is the HMC Integrated "C"onsole
- a linemode beast requiring user of the awkwardly defined syntax: VINPUT
VMSG command_text_here
SYSG is the HMC Integrated 3270 Console
- I remember it as a "G"RAF console, as in: CP DEFINE GRAF 
3270

Both work, but differently...
SYSG is a regular 3270 emulator console
(with a very frustrating and weirdly customizable) keyboard.  
Of the two, I'd choose SYSG every time.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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SYSG was already supported on 9672, with a recent EC-level.  I don't
know 
about MP3000. 
VM/ESA 2.3 surely did not support SYSG; z/VM 4.2 or 4.4 was the first to

support SYSG.

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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij

On 6/19/06, Steve Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is it SYSG  or  SYSC?


Yes ;-)

SYSC is the linemode interface in the HMC (the one that is emulated by
CP throught the VINPUT stuff) and SYSG is the (more recent)
3270-emulator sessions on the HMC.

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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Steve Gentry

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SYSG was already supported on 9672, with a recent EC-level.  I don't know 
about MP3000. 
VM/ESA 2.3 surely did not support SYSG; z/VM 4.2 or 4.4 was the first to 
support SYSG.

Kris,
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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Kris Buelens
SYSG was already supported on 9672, with a recent EC-level.  I don't know 
about MP3000. 
VM/ESA 2.3 surely did not support SYSG; z/VM 4.2 or 4.4 was the first to 
support SYSG.

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hi George, I have 5 CPOWNED volumes. I have used ICKDSF to formated and DDR restored them all. The other 59 DASDs are for user DATA. I just put a volume number on.     The DISABLE WAIT PSW is 000A9025 - and the explaination is; "SCP initialiated reset of the I/O interface". Maybe something I should not have included in the IOCDS? Let me check.     Regards,     ...Roland  George Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  If any of these DASD are in your CP-owned list, be sure to FORMAT the CP areas as well as defining the Labels. Especially if they are PAGE areas. Bad things have happened to us in the past trying to page to an un-formatted area.As another poster said, please pass on your Disabled Wait PSW as that
 will most likely pinpoint your current woes.Roland P. Chung wrote:> Thanks George I over the hump right now... I managed to get a IOCDS created on Sunday that gave me access to the tape, 3278's and DASDs.> > Now, I am tying to load the CP. It is not cooperating yet. Nowhere to check why it went into DISABLE WAIT! Maybe because I was to lazy to type in all the command using the standalone ICKDSF. I have not initialized all the other 59 3390-3 and CP is getting upset. I am in the process of using ICKDSF to do a quick initialize putting a volume seriam number on these DASDs and try again. Wish me luck.> > This is a classic case of "lack of planning and totally reflected on me" ^e^ ...> > Thanks again.> > ..Roland>>> 

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread George Haddad
If any of these DASD are in your CP-owned list, be sure to FORMAT the CP 
areas as well as defining the Labels. Especially if they are PAGE areas. 
Bad things have happened to us in the past trying to page to an 
un-formatted area.


As another poster said, please pass on your Disabled Wait PSW as that 
will most likely pinpoint your current woes.



Roland P. Chung wrote:

Thanks George I over the hump right now... I managed to get a IOCDS created 
on Sunday that gave me access to the tape, 3278's and DASDs.
   
  Now, I am tying to load the CP. It is not cooperating yet. Nowhere to check why it went into DISABLE WAIT! Maybe because I was to lazy to type in all the command using the standalone ICKDSF. I have not initialized all the other 59 3390-3 and CP is getting upset. I am in the process of using ICKDSF to do a quick initialize putting a volume seriam number on these DASDs and try again. Wish me luck.
   
  This is a classic case of "lack of planning and totally reflected on me" ^e^ ...
   
  Thanks again.
   
  ..Roland



  


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Schadow
Roland 

Can you post the Disable Wait PSW?

eric



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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Roland P. Chung
Thanks George I over the hump right now... I managed to get a IOCDS created on Sunday that gave me access to the tape, 3278's and DASDs.     Now, I am tying to load the CP. It is not cooperating yet. Nowhere to check why it went into DISABLE WAIT! Maybe because I was to lazy to type in all the command using the standalone ICKDSF. I have not initialized all the other 59 3390-3 and CP is getting upset. I am in the process of using ICKDSF to do a quick initialize putting a volume seriam number on these DASDs and try again. Wish me luck.     This is a classic case of "lack of planning and totally reflected on me" ^e^ ...     Thanks again.     ..RolandGeorge Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I believe I mis-spoke
 in my prev email, it is the CUNUMBR field on the CNTLUNIT macro that we use to re-define our CHPIDs to "more desirable" numbers.With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread George Haddad
I believe I mis-spoke in my prev email, it is the CUNUMBR field on the 
CNTLUNIT macro that we use to re-define our CHPIDs to "more desirable" 
numbers.


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread George Haddad

ROland, sorry I could not get back to "the list" on Friday with our IOCP.
While it is much less populated than the other posters' examples, ours 
*may* help with your console problems if you have a similar config.


We have a 3174 attached to one of the MP2003 bus&tag channels. However, 
we've redefined the Channels to be different from the Paths via the 
UNITADDR parm on  the CNTRLUNIT stmts.


THe bus&tag channels are at paths 40-45 on our MP2003-205, but to match 
a config from a previous machine, we redefined them so that our 3174 
appears as Channel 00, our Tapes are on Channel 05 (and formerly Channel 
15), and our now-de-installed external DASD were on Channels 0B/0F.


I'll append the IOCP source file at the end of your quote. It's worked 
for us since our initial migration back in 1999. Hope it helps.


Roland P. Chung wrote:

Hello All, thanks to all who responded. After hours of
struggling, I manage to set up a IOCDS which I was able to
get at the tape drives, DASDs and 3174. IPLed the
standalone ICKDSF and DDR. I was very happy to be able to
restore all 5 CP OWNED volumes. 


Came to the monent of truth IPL'ed VM hit the
terminal... nothing...

After spent hours investigating and trial many different
address on the 3174, I only can figure out that VM can't
get at the 3174 because in the SYSTEM CONFIG file, it says:

Operator_Consoles  001F 0020 0021 0022 0023
 Emergency_Message_Consoles   0020 0021 0022 0023

And in MP2003 world, I think there are no channel 0 anymore
and there re no good old 01F(the integrated console) hangs
on that channel either. 


I think the address (at least the UU) has been hardcoded as
40-5F on the 3174 controler.

I was very tire my brian can only think of a few
solutions:

1) find an IBM "Productivity Centre" near Washinging, DC
(if there are such thing in US!), restore the 5 pack VM
system, IPL it and fix the SYSTEM CONFIG to include 040 -
043 (the address on that 3174); Backup the 230RES, restore
it back here and I should be in business

2) reconfigure the 3174 to start the UU from 20 - well, the
Utility and a backup disk are there only thing I need
is a manual. Anyone has a LINK I can get a softcopy? 


3) get a zVM DVD? How and where?

Anyone has a better idea on how to resolve this problem?
TIA

  

MSU's MP2003-205 IOCP:
--

ID  MSG1='2003VM3  IOCP FOR MP2003 RUNNING MSUVM3',   
*   
  MSG2='Created 04/14/99 GJH',
*   
  
SYSTEM=(2003,1) 
*IOCP 
=
*IOCP  IOCDS for 2003-205 running 
MSUVM3   
*IOCP   

*IOCP  09/26/91 GJH: Created (from original 9221 IOCDS via 
export) 
*IOCP  09/30/91 GJH: Add Def for 7171 
(300-33F)
*IOCP  05/07/93 GJH: Add Def for 3480 
(590-59F)
*IOCP  09/09/93 GJH: Add Def for BTI  
(380-38F)
*IOCP  12/06/94 GJH: Add Def for 9336 
(D40-D5F)
*IOCP  01/04/95 GJH: Remove 9332's, define 9336's on channel 
C 
*IOCP  07/18/96 GJH: Remove extraneous 9336 
defs   
*IOCP  10/03/97 GJH: Define 3990/3390s 
(B40/F40)   
*IOCP  02/02/98 GJH: Add defs for MP2003 internal 
devices  
*IOCP  01/07/99 GJH: Add defs for Memorex Cart Tape 
drives 
*IOCP   

*IOCP   

*IOCP 
=
*IOCP 
 
*IOCP  MP2003 Internal 
Devices 
*IOCP 
 
  CHPID
PATH=(5A),TYPE=ISD 
  CHPID
PATH=(5C),TYPE=OSA 
  CHPID
PATH=(5E),TYPE=ISD 
*IOCP 
 
*IOCP  Parallel (Bus & Tag) 
Channels:  
*IOCP 
 
  CHPID
PATH=(40),TYPE=BL  
  CHPID
PATH=(41),TYPE=BL  
  CHPID
PATH=(42),TYPE=BL  
  CHPID
PATH=(44),TYPE=BL  
  

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Peter . Webb








Hi Roland,

 

There are two places you must specify the
console address. First off, you have to tell the hardware. That is what you are
seeing on the Support Element console. For the IPL address, you use your dasd
device address. For the Loadparm, just enter the device address of the terminal
you want to use for the console. IPL the processor. SAPL should come up on the
device you entered in the Loadparm field. At that point you can enter cons=
to tell VM where to find the console, and continue with the VM IPL.

 

Peter

 

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Sent: June 19, 2006 09:50
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

 



Hi All, thanks for all
your responses. How could I forget the SAPL. Must be getting old 





 





The customer is still
using VM/ESA 2.30... I don't know if the SAPL would take the LOADPARM. Anyway,
the application runing on the MP2003-204 allows a place to put in a load
address and a load parameter. However, it only allows 8 characters in this load
parameter field, but NO special characters allows, like the = sign...
RRRrr..





 





There are no
"intergrated console support" in this beast either 





 





Do you have other
suggestions? TIA





 





Regards,





 





...Roland

Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:






In some z/VM release, new possibilities have been added
in the area of console address override. I don't know which release, but it
surely already work in z/VM 4.4 
Here's
a summary of what you now can do 
 -
LOADPARM rdev
  --> starts SAPL on "rdev",
there you can enter CONS=rdev  to tell CP where to
go 
 
 and load CP 
 -
LOADPARM CONSrdev
 -> SAPL directly loads CP and passes CONS=rdev 

As
rdev one can also specify SYSG to
indicate the "integrated 3270 CONSOLE", very easy but first you must
drag a "3270 console" icon on the icon of the LPAR in which you want
to load VM.   Both SAPLand CP support this console (z/OS does not), so the
LOADPARM can be SYSG or CONSSYSG 
Similar,
there is SYSC, the integrated linemode console, not supported by SAPL, so you
can also enter LOADPARM CONSSYSC to directly load CP and instruct it to got to
that linemode terminal. 

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support



 





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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hi All, thanks for all your responses. How could I forget the SAPL. Must be getting old      The customer is still using VM/ESA 2.30... I don't know if the SAPL would take the LOADPARM. Anyway, the application runing on the MP2003-204 allows a place to put in a load address and a load parameter. However, it only allows 8 characters in this load parameter field, but NO special characters allows, like the = sign... RRRrr..     There are no "intergrated console support" in this beast either      Do you have other suggestions? TIA     Regards,     ...RolandKris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  In some z/VM release, new possibilities have been
 added in the area of console address override. I don't know which release, but it surely already work in z/VM 4.4 Here's a summary of what you now can do  - LOADPARM rdev   --> starts SAPL on "rdev", there you can enter CONS=rdev  to tell CP where to go    and load CP  - LOADPARM CONSrdev  -> SAPL directly loads CP and passes CONS=rdev As rdev one can also specify SYSG to indicate the "integrated 3270 CONSOLE", very easy but first you must drag a "3270 console" icon on the icon of the LPAR in which you want to load VM.   Both SAPLand CP support this console (z/OS does not), so the LOADPARM can be SYSG or CONSSYSG Similar, there is SYSC, the integrated linemode console, not supported by SAPL, so you can also enter LOADPARM CONSSYSC to directly load CP and instruct it to got to that linemode terminal. Kris,IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Imler, Steven J



The use of SYSG as the console device is both hardware and 
software dependent.  So you need both a SAPL utility that supports 
SYSG, but also a processor.  I think the hardware level set for SYSG is 
maybe z/890 / z/990, so it's unlikely the box Roland is using supports 
SYSG.
 
However, as others have said, you should certainly be able 
to supply one of your valid 3174 addresses via the LOADPARM override to get the 
system IPL'd.
 

JR (Steven) 
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BuelensSent: Monday, June 19, 2006 04:33 AMTo: 
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: IOCP for 
MP2003-204
In some z/VM release, new 
possibilities have been added in the area of console address override. I don't 
know which release, but it surely already work in z/VM 4.4 Here's a summary of what you now can do  - LOADPARM rdev   --> starts 
SAPL on "rdev", there you can enter CONS=rdev  to tell 
CP where to go    and load 
CP  - LOADPARM 
CONSrdev  -> SAPL directly loads CP and passes 
CONS=rdev As rdev one 
can also specify SYSG to indicate the "integrated 3270 CONSOLE", very 
easy but first you must drag a "3270 console" icon on the icon of the LPAR in 
which you want to load VM.   Both SAPLand CP support this console (z/OS 
does not), so the LOADPARM can be SYSG or CONSSYSG 
Similar, there is SYSC, the integrated linemode 
console, not supported by SAPL, so you can also enter LOADPARM CONSSYSC to 
directly load CP and instruct it to got to that linemode terminal. 
Kris,IBM Belgium, VM customer 
support


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Kris Buelens

In some z/VM release, new possibilities
have been added in the area of console address override. I don't know which
release, but it surely already work in z/VM 4.4
Here's a summary of what you now can
do
 - LOADPARM rdev
  --> starts SAPL on "rdev", there you can enter
CONS=rdev  to tell CP where to go
   and load CP
 - LOADPARM CONSrdev
 -> SAPL directly loads CP and passes CONS=rdev

As rdev one can also specify SYSG
to indicate the "integrated 3270 CONSOLE", very easy but
first you must drag a "3270 console" icon on the icon of the
LPAR in which you want to load VM.   Both SAPLand CP support this
console (z/OS does not), so the LOADPARM can be SYSG or CONSSYSG
Similar, there is SYSC, the integrated
linemode console, not supported by SAPL, so you can also enter LOADPARM
CONSSYSC to directly load CP and instruct it to got to that linemode terminal.

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
On 19 Jun 2006 at 1:16, Roland P. Chung wrote:

> Came to the monent of truth IPL'ed VM hit the
> terminal... nothing...
> 
> After spent hours investigating and trial many different
> address on the 3174, I only can figure out that VM can't
> get at the 3174 because in the SYSTEM CONFIG file, it says:
> 
> Operator_Consoles  001F 0020 0021 0022 0023
>  Emergency_Message_Consoles   0020 0021 0022 0023

Isn't the VM IPL volume initialized with the SAPL?

The Stand Alone Program Loader screen should come up on 
the terminal device supplied as the IPL Loadparm value, 
regardless of the contents of the SYSTEM CONFIG.
(Since SAPL is *not* VM, it does not rely on the SYSTEM
CONFIG file, it just "boots" VM).

So.. are you using the correct value as the load parameter?

Once you have the SAPL screen, you can override the 
console values in the SYSTEM CONFIG by typing:
CONS=123 (or whatever valid address you have there)
in the "parameters" section below the horizontal line
on the screen.

Then, when you hit PF10, VM should initialize
using "123" as its IPL console.

Good luck!
Shimon


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij

On 6/19/06, Roland P. Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Came to the monent of truth IPL'ed VM hit the
terminal... nothing...


So you got a disabled wait or just sitting there with enabled wait?
Did you use the LOADPARM to direct SAPL to your console and did it
come up there? As far as I recall the cons= parameter on the SAPL
options implies the set rdevice for it, so that should work for you.

Rob

--
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-18 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hello All, thanks to all who responded. After hours of
struggling, I manage to set up a IOCDS which I was able to
get at the tape drives, DASDs and 3174. IPLed the
standalone ICKDSF and DDR. I was very happy to be able to
restore all 5 CP OWNED volumes. 

Came to the monent of truth IPL'ed VM hit the
terminal... nothing...

After spent hours investigating and trial many different
address on the 3174, I only can figure out that VM can't
get at the 3174 because in the SYSTEM CONFIG file, it says:

Operator_Consoles  001F 0020 0021 0022 0023
 Emergency_Message_Consoles   0020 0021 0022 0023

And in MP2003 world, I think there are no channel 0 anymore
and there re no good old 01F(the integrated console) hangs
on that channel either. 

I think the address (at least the UU) has been hardcoded as
40-5F on the 3174 controler.

I was very tire my brian can only think of a few
solutions:

1) find an IBM "Productivity Centre" near Washinging, DC
(if there are such thing in US!), restore the 5 pack VM
system, IPL it and fix the SYSTEM CONFIG to include 040 -
043 (the address on that 3174); Backup the 230RES, restore
it back here and I should be in business

2) reconfigure the 3174 to start the UU from 20 - well, the
Utility and a backup disk are there only thing I need
is a manual. Anyone has a LINK I can get a softcopy? 

3) get a zVM DVD? How and where?

Anyone has a better idea on how to resolve this problem?
TIA

Regards,

...Roland
--- Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Friday, 06/16/2006 at 09:46 AST, George Haddad
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Our 2003-205 can be IMLed to do Dynamic I/O. We never
> did implement that
> > feature --- we just never made many I/O changes over
> the yrs -- so I
> > don't know if that negates the need for an inital IOCDS
> load or not.
> 
> No, it doesn't.  To IPL CP you have to IPL *something*. 
> That *something* 
> must be in the active I/O configuration.  You need a tape
> drive and enough 
> dasd volumes to restore a basic VM system, plus a
> console.
> 
> This is the nice thing about having an emergency 1-pack
> micro-system. 
> Sysres, paging, spooling, a directory, OPERATOR and
> MAINT, DDR, IOCP, all 
> on one volume, with the console pointing to the
> integrated console (on 
> modern machines, integrated 3270).  Or, also on modern
> machines, the 
> ability to IPL the z/VM DVD.
> 
> IF you authorized the LPAR to perform dynamic I/O
> operations and you have 
> dynamic I/O enabled in VM, then CP, once up, can start to
> add chpids, 
> control units, and devices to the I/O config.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/16/2006 at 09:46 AST, George Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Our 2003-205 can be IMLed to do Dynamic I/O. We never did implement that
> feature --- we just never made many I/O changes over the yrs -- so I
> don't know if that negates the need for an inital IOCDS load or not.

No, it doesn't.  To IPL CP you have to IPL *something*.  That *something* 
must be in the active I/O configuration.  You need a tape drive and enough 
dasd volumes to restore a basic VM system, plus a console.

This is the nice thing about having an emergency 1-pack micro-system. 
Sysres, paging, spooling, a directory, OPERATOR and MAINT, DDR, IOCP, all 
on one volume, with the console pointing to the integrated console (on 
modern machines, integrated 3270).  Or, also on modern machines, the 
ability to IPL the z/VM DVD.

IF you authorized the LPAR to perform dynamic I/O operations and you have 
dynamic I/O enabled in VM, then CP, once up, can start to add chpids, 
control units, and devices to the I/O config.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-16 Thread Richard Corak

CP reads the hardware configuration by Store-SubChannel-ID.  That
ID must map to a device number.  Using SubChannel-ID, CP can
issue I/O to get device information like device type.  Using device
type, CP can decide what to do with the device.  DASD: read its label.
Terminal: write the logon logo.  Etc.

But it all starts with the hardware being properly defined.  IOCDS.
Gotta have it.

Richard Corak


It's been quite a while since I worked at that level but I didn't (don't)
think that CP is going to be able to sense anything that isn't defined in
the active IOCDS. It seems to me that was why I used to have to give a tape
to the CE to load a basic IOCDS that would be enough to start with.

I hope I'm wrong.
Jim


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-16 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hi George, it sounds good. I will look into that.     Do you happen to have a copy of the IOCP source for your MP2003-205 handy. It would be greatly appreciated if you can post it or send me a copy for reference. Thanks a lot in advance.     Regards,     ...RolandGeorge Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Our 2003-205 can be IMLed to do Dynamic I/O. We never did implement that feature --- we just never made many I/O changes over the yrs -- so I don't know if that negates the need for an inital IOCDS load or not.Jim Bohnsack wrote:> It's been quite a while since I worked at that level but I didn't > (don't) think that CP is going to be able to sense anything that isn't > defined in the active IOCDS. It seems to me that was
 why I used to > have to give a tape to the CE to load a basic IOCDS that would be > enough to start with.>> I hope I'm wrong.> Jim>> At 11:38 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote:>> --0-1955985212-1150385931=:22404>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Peter, that is what I will do. Just talked to the hardware installer. No, he is not going to >> create a basic IOCP for us. But, he agreed to format the Shark for us >> to emulate 3390-3. He will also leave us a list on what CHPID the >> devices are connected to. I have managed to create a standalone IPLable tape with ICKDSF and >> DDR before they took down the Hitachi. I would format the needed >> DASDs and restore the CP OWNED volumns - 4 of them. Then I will try >> to IPL VM. At
 that stage, I can use all 6 tape drives to restore the >> other 60 DASDs. Hopefully, I can re-IPL to bring up the full VM system. Since CP would sense all the devices, I think I can use the >> DCPRDEVS utility to build a file of all real devices on the system. >> From there, I can build the final IOCS file and put it back to the >> service element using the IOCP command. Thanks for your suggestions. Regards, ...Roland

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-16 Thread George Haddad
Our 2003-205 can be IMLed to do Dynamic I/O. We never did implement that 
feature --- we just never made many I/O changes over the yrs -- so I 
don't know if that negates the need for an inital IOCDS load or not.


Jim Bohnsack wrote:
It's been quite a while since I worked at that level but I didn't 
(don't) think that CP is going to be able to sense anything that isn't 
defined in the active IOCDS. It seems to me that was why I used to 
have to give a tape to the CE to load a basic IOCDS that would be 
enough to start with.


I hope I'm wrong.
Jim

At 11:38 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote:

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Peter, that is what I will do.

  Just talked to the hardware installer. No, he is not going to 
create a basic IOCP for us. But, he agreed to format the Shark for us 
to emulate 3390-3. He will also leave us a list on what CHPID the 
devices are connected to.


  I have managed to create a standalone IPLable tape with ICKDSF and 
DDR before they took down the Hitachi. I would format the needed 
DASDs and restore the CP OWNED volumns - 4 of them. Then I will try 
to IPL VM. At that stage, I can use all 6 tape drives to restore the 
other 60 DASDs. Hopefully, I can re-IPL to bring up the full VM system.


  Since CP would sense all the devices, I think I can use the 
DCPRDEVS utility to build a file of all real devices on the system. 
From there, I can build the final IOCS file and put it back to the 
service element using the IOCP command.


  Thanks for your suggestions. Regards,

  ...Roland


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Jim Bohnsack
It's been quite a while since I worked at that level but I didn't (don't) 
think that CP is going to be able to sense anything that isn't defined in 
the active IOCDS. It seems to me that was why I used to have to give a tape 
to the CE to load a basic IOCDS that would be enough to start with.


I hope I'm wrong.
Jim

At 11:38 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote:

--0-1955985212-1150385931=:22404
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Peter, that is what I will do.

  Just talked to the hardware installer. No, he is not going to create a 
basic IOCP for us. But, he agreed to format the Shark for us to emulate 
3390-3. He will also leave us a list on what CHPID the devices are 
connected to.


  I have managed to create a standalone IPLable tape with ICKDSF and DDR 
before they took down the Hitachi. I would format the needed DASDs and 
restore the CP OWNED volumns - 4 of them. Then I will try to IPL VM. At 
that stage, I can use all 6 tape drives to restore the other 60 DASDs. 
Hopefully, I can re-IPL to bring up the full VM system.


  Since CP would sense all the devices, I think I can use the DCPRDEVS 
utility to build a file of all real devices on the system. From there, I 
can build the final IOCS file and put it back to the service element 
using the IOCP command.


  Thanks for your suggestions. Regards,

  ...Roland

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Roland,

Well, if the 2003-204 is anything like our 2003-225, then you have some
work to do. First, VM/ESA 2.3 should run just fine; we ran it for
several years before upgrading to z/VM 3.1. You can forget the old IOCP
from the Hitachi box, or any IOCP from another shop.

The problem here is that the CHPID numbers on the 2003 start at x'40'
and go up, with some skips (e.g. No x'4F'). Have your hardware guy cable
up the equipment the way it makes most sense to him, and create a basic
IOCP.

I assume you are using the internal dasd. As per Rob van der Heij, have
your hardware guy set them up as 3390-3. You will also get some small
volumes in this configuration, watch out for them. They can be useful
later, but will be a pain right now.

IPL standalone ICKDSF from your backup tapes and format all the volumes.
Use standalone DDR to restore your backups. Try IPLing your system
residence volume when you have finished the restores. If you are lucky,
and the customer used sensible VM configuration options, you should get
at least OPERATOR up, and maybe the whole system.

Peter

 snipped 

With best regards,

...Roland Chung
Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
MAXC Consultants Inc.
Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6

** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
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Hi Peter, that is what I will do.     Just 
talked to the hardware installer. No, he is not going to create a basic 
IOCP for us. But, he agreed to format the Shark for us to emulate 3390-3. 
He will also leave us a list on what CHPID the devices are connected 
to.     I have managed to create a standalone 
IPLable tape with ICKDSF and DDR before they took down the 
Hitachi. I would format the needed DASDs and restore the CP 
OWNED volumns - 4 of them. Then I will try to IPL VM. At that stage, 
I can use all 6 tape drives to restore the other 60 DASDs. 
Hopefully, I can re-IPL to bring up the full VM 
system.     Since CP would sense all the 
devices, I think I can use the DCPRDEVS utility to build a file of all 
real devices on the system. From there, I can build the final IOCS file 
and put it back to the service element using the IOCP command.
    Thanks for your suggestions. 
Regards,    
...Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:  Hi Roland,Well, 
if the 2003-204 is anything like our 2003-225, then you have somework 
to do. First, VM/ESA 2.3 should run just fine; we ran it forseveral 
years before upgrading to z/VM 3.1. You can forget the old IOCPfrom 
the Hitachi box, or any IOCP from another shop. The problem here 
is that the CHPID numbers on the 2003 start at x'40'and go up, with 
some skips (e.g. No x'4F'). Have your hardware guy cableup the 
equipment the way it makes most sense to him, and create a basicIOCP. 
I assume you are using the internal dasd. As per Rob van der 
Heij, haveyour hardware guy set them up as 3390-3. You will also get 
some smallvolumes in this configuration,
 watch out for them. They can be usefullater, but will be a pain 
right now. IPL standalone ICKDSF from your backup tapes and 
format all the volumes.Use standalone DDR to restore your backups. 
Try IPLing your systemresidence volume when you have finished the 
restores. If you are lucky,and the customer used sensible VM 
configuration options, you should getat least OPERATOR up, and maybe 
the whole system.Peter  snipped 
With best regards,...Roland 
ChungSenior Techn

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hi Peter, that is what I will do.     Just talked to the hardware installer. No, he is not going to create a basic IOCP for us. But, he agreed to format the Shark for us to emulate 3390-3. He will also leave us a list on what CHPID the devices are connected to.     I have managed to create a standalone IPLable tape with ICKDSF and DDR before they took down the Hitachi. I would format the needed DASDs and restore the CP OWNED volumns - 4 of them. Then I will try to IPL VM. At that stage, I can use all 6 tape drives to restore the other 60 DASDs. Hopefully, I can re-IPL to bring up the full VM system.     Since CP would sense all the devices, I think I can use the DCPRDEVS utility to build a file of all real devices on the system. From there, I can build the final IOCS file and put it back to the service element using the IOCP command. 
    Thanks for your suggestions. Regards,     ...Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Roland,Well, if the 2003-204 is anything like our 2003-225, then you have somework to do. First, VM/ESA 2.3 should run just fine; we ran it forseveral years before upgrading to z/VM 3.1. You can forget the old IOCPfrom the Hitachi box, or any IOCP from another shop. The problem here is that the CHPID numbers on the 2003 start at x'40'and go up, with some skips (e.g. No x'4F'). Have your hardware guy cableup the equipment the way it makes most sense to him, and create a basicIOCP. I assume you are using the internal dasd. As per Rob van der Heij, haveyour hardware guy set them up as 3390-3. You will also get some smallvolumes in this configuration,
 watch out for them. They can be usefullater, but will be a pain right now. IPL standalone ICKDSF from your backup tapes and format all the volumes.Use standalone DDR to restore your backups. Try IPLing your systemresidence volume when you have finished the restores. If you are lucky,and the customer used sensible VM configuration options, you should getat least OPERATOR up, and maybe the whole system.Peter  snipped With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hello Aria, thanks. It helps a lot.      Just came out from a phone conversion with the hardware installor. He is going to provide a list on what CHPID he had all the devices connected to. Since the Shark is going to connect to the ESCON channel, he said it will on CHPID 40,41,42,43,48,49,4A,4B. He will format it to 3390-3 for us.      I guess I have to get the list and try to come up with a IOCP. The IOCPs you provided are an excellent reference. Thanks a lot again.     Regards,     ...Roland       Aria Bamdad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Roland,Without knowing more about CHPID numbers and addresses, we can't provideyou with an IOCP that will work on your
 system. This is somethingthat has to be taylored to each machine.Below, I have included two IOCP files. One is a fragment of a MP2003IOCP, the other is from an MP3000. The machine type doesn't matter much.You can look at these and build an IOCP for your machine. The OSAcards in these two IOCPs are for an ethernet card but you have an TRcard.Hope this helps.Aria    snipped  ---With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread David Boyes








I don’t generally like HCD, but another
option (if you have another VM system accessible to you) would be to use HCD
and the HCM GUI to define the configuration and then have HCD generate a IOCP
deck. HCM still understands machines as old as the MP2K, and it can still
generate IOCP decks with help from the HCD widget. 

 



David Boyes

Sine Nomine Associates










Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Peter . Webb
Hi Roland,

Well, if the 2003-204 is anything like our 2003-225, then you have some
work to do. First, VM/ESA 2.3 should run just fine; we ran it for
several years before upgrading to z/VM 3.1. You can forget the old IOCP
from the Hitachi box, or any IOCP from another shop. 

The problem here is that the CHPID numbers on the 2003 start at x'40'
and go up, with some skips (e.g. No x'4F'). Have your hardware guy cable
up the equipment the way it makes most sense to him, and create a basic
IOCP. 

I assume you are using the internal dasd. As per Rob van der Heij, have
your hardware guy set them up as 3390-3. You will also get some small
volumes in this configuration, watch out for them. They can be useful
later, but will be a pain right now. 

IPL standalone ICKDSF from your backup tapes and format all the volumes.
Use standalone DDR to restore your backups. Try IPLing your system
residence volume when you have finished the restores. If you are lucky,
and the customer used sensible VM configuration options, you should get
at least OPERATOR up, and maybe the whole system.

Peter  

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Roland P. Chung
Sent: June 15, 2006 07:04
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

Well, Rich, the Hitachi is out the door already.

I hope the computer room manager would have a picture of
the old machine configuration showing how the devices are
connected to the Hitachi. With that, the installer can put
a basic IOCP on the MP2003-204's storage element. 

As I know of on the Hitachi:

DASD are on 200-23F
Tapes are on 320 to 32F. 

Good luck to me!

Regards,

...Roland

--- Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is going to be next to impossible without knowing
> the CHPID numbers 
> and device numbers that they need.  It's time to
> reconnect the Hitachi box.
> 
> Roland P. Chung wrote:
> > Hello Listers, please help! I've been parachuted into
> the
> > middle of this. *SIGH*
> > 
> > The client is migrating from a Hitachi EX-22 to a
> > MP2003-204. The operating system is VM/ESA 2.30. Before
> > they took down the old system , we did not make a copy
> of
> > the IOCP. The only thing we've managed to do is DDR
> copied
> > all 64 3390-3 DASDs.
> > 
> > Could anyone has an IOCP similiar to the MP2003 system
> that
> > I can borrow. The new system's configuration is as
> follow:
> > 
> > CPU
> > 
> > 15  CEC/Cage Airflow cards (0012)
> > 1   External HMC/SE(0015)
> > 1   204 1-Way Processor(0603)
> > 1   No Crypto Hardware (0808)
> > 2   4 port parallel cards  (2304)
> > 2   ESCON Channel  (2313)
> > 1   FIBBAC Card(2338)
> > 1   1024 MN Memory Card(3024)
> > 1   Token Ring (5201)
> > 1   Small Console Display  (6090)
> > 1   4.8M 3 Phase - US  (8887)
> > 1   Northern Hemisphere(9930)
> > 
> > Plus devices from the old system
> > 
> > IBM 3490 Tape Systems
> >  3490E A10 Controller
> >  3490E B40 w/4 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
> >  3490E B20 w/2 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
> > 
> > IBM 4245/12 Printer   
> > 
> > IBM 3174/1L Communications Controller (coax
> connections)
> > 
> > IBM 3172/3 Communications Controller (Ethernet
> connections)
> > 
> > DASD
> > 
> > 4   36.4gb 8 paks (2123)
> > 4   ESCON Channels
> > 8   GB cache
> > * to be configured as 3390-3
> > 
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > With best regards,
> > 
> > ...Roland Chung
> > Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
> > MAXC Consultants Inc.
> > Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
> > 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6
> > 
> > ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the
> roses. **
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Rich Smrcina
> VM Assist, Inc.
> Main: (262)392-2026
> Cell: (414)491-6001
> Ans Service:  (360)715-2467
> rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
> 
> Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
> WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
> 


With best regards,

...Roland Chung
Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
MAXC Consultants Inc.
Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6

** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **


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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Aria Bamdad
Roland,

Without knowing more about CHPID numbers and addresses, we can't provide
you with an IOCP that will work on your system.  This is something
that has to be taylored to each machine.

Below, I have included two IOCP files.  One is a fragment of a MP2003
IOCP, the other is from an MP3000. The machine type doesn't matter much.

You can look at these and build an IOCP for your machine.  The OSA
cards in these two IOCPs are  for an ethernet card but you have an TR
card.

Hope this helps.
Aria

-
   ID   MSG1='MULTIPRISE 20003',SYSTEM=(2003,1)
   CHPIDPATH=((00)),TYPE=OSA
   CHPIDPATH=((08)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((09)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((0A)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((10)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((11)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((12)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((14)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((15)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((16)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((18)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((19)),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=((1A)),TYPE=BL
*
* MEMOREX 5450/1 TAPE DRIVE
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=510,PATH=18,SHARED=N,UNIT=3480,X
   UNITADD=((10,16)),PROTOCL=S
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(510,02),CUNUMBR=510,UNIT=3480
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=000,PATH=14,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(000,32),CUNUMBR=000,UNIT=3278
*
*IBM 3380-CJ2
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=B20,PATH=10,SHARED=N,UNIT=3880,X
   UNITADD=((20,16)),PROTOCL=S
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(B20,16),CUNUMBR=(B20),UNIT=3380
*
*OSA-2
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=3F0,PATH=00,UNIT=OSA
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(3F0,4),CUNUMBR=(3F0),UNIT=OSA,UNITADD=00
*IOCP END
-
-
   ID   MSG1='20040508',SYSTEM=(7060,1),   X
   TOK=('VM-TOKEN',F0F161F0F361F0F4F1F27AF0F57AF0F240404040X
   ,,'05/09/04','00:05:50','','')
   CHPIDPATH=(00),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(01),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(04),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(05),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(06),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(07),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(08),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(09),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0A),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0B),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0C),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0D),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0E),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(0F),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(10),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(11),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(12),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(13),TYPE=BL
   CHPIDPATH=(1E),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(1F),TYPE=CNC
   CHPIDPATH=(FC),TYPE=EIO
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*  CHPID 08
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=000,PATH=08,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(000,32),CUNUMBR=000,UNIT=3278
*
*4245 PRINTER
*  CHPID 08
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=070,PATH=08,SHARED=N,UNIT=4245,X
   UNITADD=((70,08)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(077,1),CUNUMBR=070,UNIT=4245
*
*  3174 CONTROL UNIT
*  CHPID 11
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=400,PATH=11,SHARED=N,UNIT=3174,X
   UNITADD=((00,32)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(400,32),CUNUMBR=400,UNIT=3278
*
* MEMOREX 3281/8 TAPE DRIVE
*  CHPID 0B
*
   CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=500,PATH=0B,SHARED=Y,UNIT=3803,X
   UNITADD=((00,08)),PROTOCL=D
   IODEVICE ADDRESS=(500,02),CUNUMBR=500,UNIT=3420
*
* MEMOREX 5450/1 TAPE DRIVE
*  CHPID 0B

Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij

On 6/15/06, Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That is going to be next to impossible without knowing the CHPID numbers
and device numbers that they need.  It's time to reconnect the Hitachi box.


Impossible?  Wasn't that removed with z/VM 5.2 ?  Ah, well... VM/ESA

The way I would consider to move forward:
1. Configure the disk space for 3390-3 models
2. Define an IOCP to map disk and tape at whatever addreass you recall
3. Install a small VM system to do your restores
4. If you don't know what volumes are on what tapes you need to
restore them all (the starter system takes 2 packs but you don't need
to have the page packs already)
5. Look through the volumes and find your IPL pack and IPL the thing 2nd level
6. Find the source directory somewhere (if you really can not find it,
kdirect comes to mind)
7. Maybe your original IOCP source is somewhere on the MAINT disks, or
some CE-type userid. Otherwise go through directory and some config
files to learn where devices were.

Rob
--


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Gentry

Does the Hitachi box have a way to copy the IOCP (or IOCDS) to a diskette or print it out rather than 
hooking the equipment back up?

Steve G.







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That is going to be next to impossible without knowing the CHPID numbers 
and device numbers that they need.  It's time to reconnect the Hitachi box.

Roland P. Chung wrote:
> Hello Listers, please help! I've been parachuted into the
> middle of this. *SIGH*
> 
> The client is migrating from a Hitachi EX-22 to a
> MP2003-204. The operating system is VM/ESA 2.30. Before
> they took down the old system , we did not make a copy of
> the IOCP. The only thing we've managed to do is DDR copied
> all 64 3390-3 DASDs.
> 
> Could anyone has an IOCP similiar to the MP2003 system that
> I can borrow. The new system's configuration is as follow:
> 
> CPU
> 
> 15  CEC/Cage Airflow cards             (0012)
> 1   External HMC/SE                    (0015)
> 1   204 1-Way Processor                (0603)
> 1   No Crypto Hardware                 (0808)
> 2   4 port parallel cards              (2304)
> 2   ESCON Channel                      (2313)
> 1   FIBBAC Card                        (2338)
> 1   1024 MN Memory Card                (3024)
> 1   Token Ring                         (5201)
> 1   Small Console Display              (6090)
> 1   4.8M 3 Phase - US                  (8887)
> 1   Northern Hemisphere                (9930)
> 
> Plus devices from the old system
> 
> IBM 3490 Tape Systems
>  3490E A10 Controller
>  3490E B40 w/4 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
>  3490E B20 w/2 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
> 
> IBM 4245/12 Printer   
> 
> IBM 3174/1L Communications Controller (coax connections)
> 
> IBM 3172/3 Communications Controller (Ethernet connections)
> 
> DASD
> 
> 4   36.4gb 8 paks             (2123)
> 4   ESCON Channels
> 8   GB cache
> * to be configured as 3390-3
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> ...Roland Chung
> Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
> MAXC Consultants Inc.
> Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
> 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6
> 
> ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
> 

-- 
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Main: (262)392-2026
Cell: (414)491-6001
Ans Service:  (360)715-2467
rich.smrcina at vmassist.com

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Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-15 Thread Roland P. Chung
Well, Rich, the Hitachi is out the door already.

I hope the computer room manager would have a picture of
the old machine configuration showing how the devices are
connected to the Hitachi. With that, the installer can put
a basic IOCP on the MP2003-204's storage element. 

As I know of on the Hitachi:

DASD are on 200-23F
Tapes are on 320 to 32F. 

Good luck to me!

Regards,

...Roland

--- Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is going to be next to impossible without knowing
> the CHPID numbers 
> and device numbers that they need.  It's time to
> reconnect the Hitachi box.
> 
> Roland P. Chung wrote:
> > Hello Listers, please help! I've been parachuted into
> the
> > middle of this. *SIGH*
> > 
> > The client is migrating from a Hitachi EX-22 to a
> > MP2003-204. The operating system is VM/ESA 2.30. Before
> > they took down the old system , we did not make a copy
> of
> > the IOCP. The only thing we've managed to do is DDR
> copied
> > all 64 3390-3 DASDs.
> > 
> > Could anyone has an IOCP similiar to the MP2003 system
> that
> > I can borrow. The new system's configuration is as
> follow:
> > 
> > CPU
> > 
> > 15  CEC/Cage Airflow cards (0012)
> > 1   External HMC/SE(0015)
> > 1   204 1-Way Processor(0603)
> > 1   No Crypto Hardware (0808)
> > 2   4 port parallel cards  (2304)
> > 2   ESCON Channel  (2313)
> > 1   FIBBAC Card(2338)
> > 1   1024 MN Memory Card(3024)
> > 1   Token Ring (5201)
> > 1   Small Console Display  (6090)
> > 1   4.8M 3 Phase - US  (8887)
> > 1   Northern Hemisphere(9930)
> > 
> > Plus devices from the old system
> > 
> > IBM 3490 Tape Systems
> >  3490E A10 Controller
> >  3490E B40 w/4 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
> >  3490E B20 w/2 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
> > 
> > IBM 4245/12 Printer   
> > 
> > IBM 3174/1L Communications Controller (coax
> connections)
> > 
> > IBM 3172/3 Communications Controller (Ethernet
> connections)
> > 
> > DASD
> > 
> > 4   36.4gb 8 paks (2123)
> > 4   ESCON Channels
> > 8   GB cache
> > * to be configured as 3390-3
> > 
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > With best regards,
> > 
> > ...Roland Chung
> > Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
> > MAXC Consultants Inc.
> > Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
> > 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6
> > 
> > ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the
> roses. **
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Rich Smrcina
> VM Assist, Inc.
> Main: (262)392-2026
> Cell: (414)491-6001
> Ans Service:  (360)715-2467
> rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
> 
> Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
> WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
> 


With best regards,

...Roland Chung
Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
MAXC Consultants Inc.
Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6

** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **


Re: IOCP for MP2003-204

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Smrcina
That is going to be next to impossible without knowing the CHPID numbers 
and device numbers that they need.  It's time to reconnect the Hitachi box.


Roland P. Chung wrote:

Hello Listers, please help! I've been parachuted into the
middle of this. *SIGH*

The client is migrating from a Hitachi EX-22 to a
MP2003-204. The operating system is VM/ESA 2.30. Before
they took down the old system , we did not make a copy of
the IOCP. The only thing we've managed to do is DDR copied
all 64 3390-3 DASDs.

Could anyone has an IOCP similiar to the MP2003 system that
I can borrow. The new system's configuration is as follow:

CPU

15  CEC/Cage Airflow cards (0012)
1   External HMC/SE(0015)
1   204 1-Way Processor(0603)
1   No Crypto Hardware (0808)
2   4 port parallel cards  (2304)
2   ESCON Channel  (2313)
1   FIBBAC Card(2338)
1   1024 MN Memory Card(3024)
1   Token Ring (5201)
1   Small Console Display  (6090)
1   4.8M 3 Phase - US  (8887)
1   Northern Hemisphere(9930)

Plus devices from the old system

IBM 3490 Tape Systems
 3490E A10 Controller
 3490E B40 w/4 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders
 3490E B20 w/2 Tape Transports w/Autoloaders

IBM 4245/12 Printer   


IBM 3174/1L Communications Controller (coax connections)

IBM 3172/3 Communications Controller (Ethernet connections)

DASD

4   36.4gb 8 paks (2123)
4   ESCON Channels
8   GB cache
* to be configured as 3390-3

Thanks a lot in advance.



With best regards,

...Roland Chung
Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
MAXC Consultants Inc.
Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6

** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **



--
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Main: (262)392-2026
Cell: (414)491-6001
Ans Service:  (360)715-2467
rich.smrcina at vmassist.com

Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007