Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
no VM/VTAM.. graf..remember enable all Q GRAF "Edward M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 01:07 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 Hello Jan Canavan, I am basically agreeing with Steve, but I think it is the other way around for your “(AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01”. The DFT (distributive function terminals) did some of the file transfer and other controller functions within the terminal.. The CUT’s (control unit terminals) let the controller do all the work. You need to ensure that the File Transfer bit is on (I thought that was 125 bit 6 needed to be a 1) and , IIRC, there was a bit to change certain characters to spaces and the like that must be turned off. (let all characters be). And this terminal is connecting directly to VM. Because there are some VM/VTAM things that need adjusted too. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I thought one of the 3174 configuration questions had to do with CUT vs DFT. I think you have to define the port(s) as DFT (unless that's what question 125 does, in that case, never mind). Steve G.
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
That would be on the PC software. Doug Bulbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 12:21 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 Hi Jan, It's been years since I've worked with IND$FILE, so take this advice with a grain of salt, but try changing the packet size of the IND$FILE to 256 bytes. I vaguely recall a problem that I had where a transfer would just hang, that was circumvented by drastically reducing the packet size like this. Regards, Doug -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 14, 2006 9:06 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes “wait” forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla…. the default options Jan Canavan This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
that I believe is question 173, which is all zeroes because there are none (?) Steve Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 01:20 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I thought one of the 3174 configuration questions had to do with CUT vs DFT. I think you have to define the port(s) as DFT (unless that's what question 125 does, in that case, never mind). Steve G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 10:05 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes "wait" forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla…. the default options Jan Canavan
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
Thanks, Alan, very much. Yes, Jan, that's it. I'm pretty sure this is your problem. - Tom. At 09:17 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote: On Monday, 08/14/2006 at 06:10 MST, Tom Cluster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have a 3174 Customization Guide to double-check. 3174 publications are available online in the IBM Publications Center, http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi.cgi Question 125 contained a bit to indicate whether the "file transfer aid" was to be enabled. Perhaps that is what you are remembering... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott Tom Cluster County of Sonoma Santa Rosa, CA (707) 565-3384 (Tuesdays and Wednesdays only)
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
On Monday, 08/14/2006 at 06:10 MST, Tom Cluster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have a 3174 Customization Guide to double-check. 3174 publications are available online in the IBM Publications Center, http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi.cgi Question 125 contained a bit to indicate whether the "file transfer aid" was to be enabled. Perhaps that is what you are remembering... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
Jan, Are you actually running VM (i.e. VM/ESA) v2.3 or is that the level of IND$FILE? If VM/ESA v2.3, that's older than dirt and I don't know if it runs TCP/IP. However, if it does, you could consider converting IND$FILE to FTP and bypass the whole 3174 issue. Dennis Mutual of Omaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM Sent by: "The IBM To z/VM OperatingIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU System"cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU> Subject VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 08/14/2006 10:05 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU> I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes “wait” forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla…. the default options Jan Canavan
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
Jan, I thought there was a "file transfer" customization question on the 3174 that had no counterpart on the 3274. I vaguely remember something "new" on the 3174 that we had to answer "yes" to in order to make IND$FILE work correctly when we switched from 3274's ro 3174's. Unfortunately I don't have a 3174 Customization Guide to double-check. - Tom. At 08:05 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote: I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes âwaitâ forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla . the default optiions Jan Canavan Tom Cluster County of Sonoma Santa Rosa, CA (707) 565-3384 (Tuesdays and Wednesdays only)
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
Title: RE: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 Hello Jan Canavan, I am basically agreeing with Steve, but I think it is the other way around for your “(AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01”. The DFT (distributive function terminals) did some of the file transfer and other controller functions within the terminal.. The CUT’s (control unit terminals) let the controller do all the work. You need to ensure that the File Transfer bit is on (I thought that was 125 bit 6 needed to be a 1) and , IIRC, there was a bit to change certain characters to spaces and the like that must be turned off. (let all characters be). And this terminal is connecting directly to VM. Because there are some VM/VTAM things that need adjusted too. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I thought one of the 3174 configuration questions had to do with CUT vs DFT. I think you have to define the port(s) as DFT (unless that's what question 125 does, in that case, never mind). Steve G.
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
Title: Message Hi Jan, It's been years since I've worked with IND$FILE, so take this advice with a grain of salt, but try changing the packet size of the IND$FILE to 256 bytes. I vaguely recall a problem that I had where a transfer would just hang, that was circumvented by drastically reducing the packet size like this. Regards, Doug -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: August 14, 2006 9:06 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes “wait” forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla…. the default options Jan Canavan This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174
I thought one of the 3174 configuration questions had to do with CUT vs DFT. I think you have to define the port(s) as DFT (unless that's what question 125 does, in that case, never mind). Steve G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 10:05 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174 I had a very interesting day working with a 3174. The plan is to move from a 3274-41D to a 3174-01L. The first part of the plan of making a copy of the already working configuration, which went fine. (By the way, I walked into this shop. Everything was already there, they just wanted copies made and then decided to move to the 3174. They only had one terminal on the 3174.) Then we moved a Terminal to the 3174, which I then found out had an emulation terminal board in it. (AST-3270 Coax-II-CUT Control Program Version 2.01) I found out the VM 2.3 IN$FILE file transfer no longer worked. Plug it back into the 3274 and it worked fine. The transfer screen just signals wait. There no error log or error message on the VM screen. Went back to the configuration and found question 125 digit 6 and changed it to zero. No change. Reset the error logs on the 3174 and redid the transfer. No file transfer, but no error messages. Checked out questions 222, and changed it to 1. Note that this is a Fundamental Software type processor. No change. No error messages, no error logs. The file transfer program on the PC just flashes "wait" forever. Anybody got any suggestions? What am I overlooking? Configuration support A vanilla…. the default options Jan Canavan
