Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Tom, I found a copy of the Lars batch system including all 9 files. Included is the full documentation for the system. The version I have is release 2.2, but I may have release 2.3 and some additional mods and fixes. Are you still interested in this? George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? If you do find a Sysprog or User's guide, I would like to get a copy. The last time I implemented the LARS/Purdue system, I had to plow through all of the source code to see how it was working. It has been a long time since then so I don't think I will remember any of the details of the inner workings. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: > As I recall, the Lars system was comprised of 10-12 separate files on > tape. One (maybe more) of the files was a complete systems programming > and user guide. These were in a printed manual format (script?). Brain > cells are fuzzy this morning. > > > > George Shedlock Jr > AEGON Information Technology > AEGON USA > 502-560-3541 > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Thomas Kern > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:48 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? > > Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks > complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except > for the source and the one end-user help file. > > /Tom Kern > > Shedlock, George wrote: >> Tom, >> The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones >> already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? >> >> >> George Shedlock Jr >> AEGON Information Technology >> AEGON USA >> 502-560-3541 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? >> >> There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available >> at > >> different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has >> already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the >> High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may >> have > >> had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. >> >> /Tom Kern >> >> Shedlock, George wrote: >>> Tom, >>> >>> Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one >>> of > >>> the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several >>> mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I >>> believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at >> home. >>> George Shedlock Jr >>> AEGON Information Technology >>> AEGON USA >>> 502-560-3541 >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM >>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >>> Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? >>> >>> Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available >>> from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? >>> >>> /Tom Kern >>> >
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Two of the mods were new Diagnose functions, one of which was to get and/ or set the account number. Neither might be needed in a current z/VM system, but both might be good to have in a VM/370 R6 system. /Tom Kern
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
I faintly remember the CP mods for the LARS system were primarily to increase the size of some of the spooled file size fields in some control blocks in VM/SP and XA. I suspect that you might not need them on a modern system, or that it would now be possible to modify the LARS code to not need them.
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Tom, If all else fails, you might try http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/vm/backarch-ann.html . George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? If you do find a Sysprog or User's guide, I would like to get a copy. The last time I implemented the LARS/Purdue system, I had to plow through all of the source code to see how it was working. It has been a long time since then so I don't think I will remember any of the details of the inner workings. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: > As I recall, the Lars system was comprised of 10-12 separate files on > tape. One (maybe more) of the files was a complete systems programming > and user guide. These were in a printed manual format (script?). Brain > cells are fuzzy this morning. > > > > George Shedlock Jr > AEGON Information Technology > AEGON USA > 502-560-3541 > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Thomas Kern > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:48 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? > > Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks > complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except > for the source and the one end-user help file. > > /Tom Kern > > Shedlock, George wrote: >> Tom, >> The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones >> already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? >> >> >> George Shedlock Jr >> AEGON Information Technology >> AEGON USA >> 502-560-3541 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? >> >> There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available >> at > >> different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has >> already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the >> High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may >> have > >> had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. >> >> /Tom Kern >> >> Shedlock, George wrote: >>> Tom, >>> >>> Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one >>> of > >>> the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several >>> mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I >>> believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at >> home. >>> George Shedlock Jr >>> AEGON Information Technology >>> AEGON USA >>> 502-560-3541 >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM >>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >>> Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? >>> >>> Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available >>> from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? >>> >>> /Tom Kern >>> >
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
If you do find a Sysprog or User's guide, I would like to get a copy. The last time I implemented the LARS/Purdue system, I had to plow through all of the source code to see how it was working. It has been a long time since then so I don't think I will remember any of the details of the inner workings. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: As I recall, the Lars system was comprised of 10-12 separate files on tape. One (maybe more) of the files was a complete systems programming and user guide. These were in a printed manual format (script?). Brain cells are fuzzy this morning. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except for the source and the one end-user help file. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: Tom, The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may have had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: Tom, Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at home. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? /Tom Kern
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
As I recall, the Lars system was comprised of 10-12 separate files on tape. One (maybe more) of the files was a complete systems programming and user guide. These were in a printed manual format (script?). Brain cells are fuzzy this morning. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except for the source and the one end-user help file. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: > Tom, > The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones > already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? > > > George Shedlock Jr > AEGON Information Technology > AEGON USA > 502-560-3541 > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Thomas Kern > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? > > There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at > different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has > already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the > High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may have > had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. > > /Tom Kern > > Shedlock, George wrote: >> Tom, >> >> Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of >> the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several >> mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I >> believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at > home. >> >> George Shedlock Jr >> AEGON Information Technology >> AEGON USA >> 502-560-3541 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? >> >> Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available >> from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? >> >> /Tom Kern >> >
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Not of the LARS/Purdue system. The copy Dave Jones supplied looks complete. I don't remember there ever being any documentation except for the source and the one end-user help file. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: Tom, The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may have had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: Tom, Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at home. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? /Tom Kern
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Tom, The one I have is probably the LARS/Purdue system. If Dave Jones already supplied a copy of it, do you still need another copy? George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may have had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: > Tom, > > Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of > the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several > mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I > believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at home. > > > George Shedlock Jr > AEGON Information Technology > AEGON USA > 502-560-3541 > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Thomas Kern > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? > > Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available > from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? > > /Tom Kern >
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
There are two (I think different) Batch Systems that were available at different times. One is the LARS/Purdue Batch system. Dave Jones has already supplied that. The other was from SLAC and was meant for the High Energy Physics crowd. Both required mods to CP, and SLAC may have had mods to CMS as well. I am interested in BOTH. /Tom Kern Shedlock, George wrote: Tom, Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at home. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? /Tom Kern
Re: SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Tom, Are you referring to the old CMS Batch system that appeared on one of the old VM Workshop tapes? From what I remember, it required several mods to both CP and CMS modules in order to function properly. I believe I have a copy hanging around . Somewhere. I'll look at home. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SLAC VM Batch System availability ? Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? /Tom Kern
SLAC VM Batch System availability ?
Does anyone know if the old SLAC VM Batch System is still available from somewhere? Anyone have a copy collecting dust? /Tom Kern
