Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/03/2008 at 11:52 EST, Jan Canavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> So should we all do this?
> 
> We id this back in when the RSU 0703 first came out.  We checked it 
three times.
> We just thought that was just the way it was.
> 
> If more than one is having trouble, something is out of sync.

Yes, call it in.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Jan Canavan
So should we all do this?

We id this back in when the RSU 0703 first came out.  We checked it three times.
We just thought that was just the way it was.

If more than one is having trouble, something is out of sync.


-Original Message-
>From: Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 3, 2008 8:36 AM
>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>Subject: Re: Service level after RSU
>
>The easiest thing to do is to open a PMR.  You will be granted audience 
>with an Absolute Master of the Arcane.  He or she will use their Power to 
>divine the cause of your confusion.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott


Jan Canavan
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VSE/VM SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER


Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I just put on RSU703 last week and at some point (don't remember--the 
memory is said to be the 2nd thing to go), I had a new CPLOAD MODULE and 
MAP on the MAINT 493 disk and the CPLOAD MODULE on the 2nd PARM disk.  I 
used the black box SERVICE exec and then PUT2PROD.  I think the above 
was the case after SERVICE and before PUT2PROD.  See what's on the 2nd 
PARM disk.

Jim

Stephen Frazier wrote:
You didn't move the new CPMODULE to the PARM disk you loaded from. The CPMODULE was generated on 
September 18, 2007. As you claim to have recently installed RSU0703 you either didn't generate a new 
CPMODULE or you didn't move it to your PARM disk or you IPLed from an old PARM disk.


  


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Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Stephen Frazier
You didn't move the new CPMODULE to the PARM disk you loaded from. The CPMODULE was generated on 
September 18, 2007. As you claim to have recently installed RSU0703 you either didn't generate a new 
CPMODULE or you didn't move it to your PARM disk or you IPLed from an old PARM disk.


Shimon Lebowitz wrote:

Hi,
On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703, 
ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
then PUT2PROD, and then 
SHUTDOWN.


On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
levels.
q cplevel
Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC

q cmslevel
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702

But when I ask VMSES:
SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.
VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.

Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?

Thanks,
Shimon



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Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Alan Altmark
The easiest thing to do is to open a PMR.  You will be granted audience 
with an Absolute Master of the Arcane.  He or she will use their Power to 
divine the cause of your confusion.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: {SPAM?} Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
It looks like two problems.  

1.  The current CPLOAD MODULE was not put on the PARM disk.

2.  The CMS NSS was not saved from the 490 disk.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shimon Lebowitz
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:36 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: {SPAM?} Service level after RSU


Hi,
On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703, 
ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
then PUT2PROD, and then 
SHUTDOWN.

On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
levels.
q cplevel
Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT) GENERATED AT
09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC

q cmslevel
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702

But when I ask VMSES:
SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.
VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.

Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?

Thanks,
Shimon

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Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Not installed yet, its a fresh system.

Thanks,
Shimon

> Hi Shimon ...
>  
> V/Seg isn't getting in your way ... is it?
>  
> JR
>  
> JR (Steven) Imler
> CA
> Senior Software Engineer
> Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
> Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
> Hello Shimon,
> 
>   If you IPL from the 490 disk do you get a CMS level at 703? 
> 
> Ed Martin


CP I 190 CL
Z/VM V5.3.02008-02-14 16:58

CP I 490 CL
Z/VM V5.3.02008-02-14 16:58

Q CMSLEVEL
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702
READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:22:20

I guess not. :-( I see that 190 and 490 show the same
ipl timestamp. Hmmm.. that was two weeks ago,
when I put in 0702.

> Behalf Of Kris Buelens
> 
> I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...  
> But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE.
> Compare its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are
> supposed to IPL from).  PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE
> there.
> (a check for CMS is less easy)

list cpload module * ( date
FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS   DATE TIME
CPLOAD   MODULE   K1 V  65535151   2393 11/26/07 19:25:06
CPLOAD   MODULE   P1 V  65535151   2393 11/26/07 19:25:06
CPLOAD   MODULE   Q1 V  65535151   2393  9/18/07 17:06:03
CPLOAD   MODULE   R1 V  65535151   2393  9/18/07 17:06:03
READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:31:01

xd k p q r
LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK TOTAL
MNT493 493  K   R/W   167 3390 4096 1074  21118-70   8942  30060
MNT193 193  P   R/W   167 3390 4096 1074  21118-70   8942  30060
MNTCF1 CF1  Q   R/O   120 3390 4096   16   7954-37  13646  21600
MNTCF2 CF2  R   R/O   120 3390 4096   16   7954-37  13646  21600
READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:31:25

So, apparently 0703 did not update the parm disks either.

I am considering restoring a backup and trying again,
this is *not* a production system.

Any other ideas?

Shimon

P.S. Why does the word "(SPAM?)" keep appearing in the subject?
I remove it on each post.

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Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Imler, Steven J
Hi Shimon ...
 
V/Seg isn't getting in your way ... is it?
 
JR
 
JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 07:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU


I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...  
But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD
MODULE.  Compare its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you
are supposed to IPL from).  PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD
MODULE there.
(a check for CMS is less easy)


2008/3/3, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

Nope, the magic did not work:

put2prod  all
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO
PRODUCTION.
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25



> Believe it or not I think if you run PUT2PROD ALL,
somehow magically the correct files will get updated and the service
level will change.  Maybe I will open a PMR ...
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of
Shimon Lebowitz
> Sent: Sun 3/2/2008 6:36 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    > Subject: [IBMVM] {SPAM?} Service level after RSU
>
> Hi,
> On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703,
> ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
> then PUT2PROD, and then
> SHUTDOWN.
>
> On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
> levels.
> q cplevel
> Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702
(64-BIT)
> GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
> IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC
>
> q cmslevel
> CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702
>
> But when I ask VMSES:
> SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
> VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
> VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
> VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> .
> VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> .
>
> Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?
>
> Thanks,
> Shimon


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VM System Programmer   .
Israel Police National HQ.
Jerusalem, Israel  phone: +972 2 542-9877
fax: 542-9308







-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support 



Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Shimon,

If you IPL from the 490 disk do you get a CMS level at 703? 

Ed Martin
330-588-4723
ext 40441

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU

I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...  
But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE.
Compare its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are
supposed to IPL from).  PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE
there.
(a check for CMS is less easy)
2008/3/3, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Nope, the magic did not work:

put2prod  all
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION.
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25






Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Kris Buelens
I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...
But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE.  Compare
its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are supposed to IPL
from).  PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE there.
(a check for CMS is less easy)

2008/3/3, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Nope, the magic did not work:
>
> put2prod  all
> VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
> VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION.
> VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
> READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25
>
>
>
> > Believe it or not I think if you run PUT2PROD ALL, somehow magically the
> correct files will get updated and the service level will change.  Maybe I
> will open a PMR ...
> > David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Shimon Lebowitz
> > Sent: Sun 3/2/2008 6:36 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: [IBMVM] {SPAM?} Service level after RSU
> >
> > Hi,
> > On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703,
> > ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
> > then PUT2PROD, and then
> > SHUTDOWN.
> >
> > On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
> > levels.
> > q cplevel
> > Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
> > GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
> > IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC
> >
> > q cmslevel
> > CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702
> >
> > But when I ask VMSES:
> > SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
> > VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
> > VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
> > VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
> > VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
> > VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
> > VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> > VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> > .
> > VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
> > VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> > VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> > .
> >
> > Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shimon
>
>
> --
> 
> Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> VM System Programmer   .
> Israel Police National HQ.
> Jerusalem, Israel  phone: +972 2 542-9877  fax: 542-9308
> 
>



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{SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU

2008-03-03 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Nope, the magic did not work:

put2prod  all
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION.
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25



> Believe it or not I think if you run PUT2PROD ALL, somehow magically the 
> correct files will get updated and the service level will change.  Maybe I 
> will open a PMR ...
> David
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Shimon Lebowitz
> Sent: Sun 3/2/2008 6:36 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: [IBMVM] {SPAM?} Service level after RSU
>  
> Hi,
> On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703, 
> ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
> then PUT2PROD, and then 
> SHUTDOWN.
> 
> On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
> levels.
> q cplevel
> Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
> GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
> IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC
> 
> q cmslevel
> CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702
> 
> But when I ask VMSES:
> SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
> VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
> VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
> VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> .
> VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
> VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
> VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
> .
> 
> Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?
> 
> Thanks,
> Shimon

-- 

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VM System Programmer   .
Israel Police National HQ. 
Jerusalem, Israel  phone: +972 2 542-9877  fax: 542-9308



Re: {SPAM?} Service level after RSU

2008-03-02 Thread David Kreuter
Believe it or not I think if you run PUT2PROD ALL, somehow magically the 
correct files will get updated and the service level will change.  Maybe I will 
open a PMR ...
David


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Shimon Lebowitz
Sent: Sun 3/2/2008 6:36 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] {SPAM?} Service level after RSU
 
Hi,
On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703, 
ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
then PUT2PROD, and then 
SHUTDOWN.

On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
levels.
q cplevel
Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC

q cmslevel
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702

But when I ask VMSES:
SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.
VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.

Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?

Thanks,
Shimon

-- 

Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
VM System Programmer   .
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Jerusalem, Israel  phone: +972 2 542-9877  fax: 542-9308





{SPAM?} Service level after RSU

2008-03-02 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Hi,
On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703, 
ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
then PUT2PROD, and then 
SHUTDOWN.

On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
levels.
q cplevel
Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC

q cmslevel
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702

But when I ask VMSES:
SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  000-
VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.
VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL  RSU-0703
.

Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?

Thanks,
Shimon

-- 

Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
VM System Programmer   .
Israel Police National HQ. 
Jerusalem, Israel  phone: +972 2 542-9877  fax: 542-9308