Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Kris Buelens]

Part of my LISTSG tool is USERLIST, displays the user of users in a FILELIST
fashion
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?LISTSG

*USERLIST *  --> list everyone
*USERLIST LIN**  --> list users starting with "LIN"
*USERLIST CP Q NSS USERS CMS|drop 2|Split*  --> lists all users that use
segment CMS

2010/9/16 Bruce Hayden 

> You should use "nfind VSM_-" to make sure you don't match a userid that
> starts with VSM that happens to be logged in via a VSM machine.  Remember
> that pipeline "find" uses a blank to match any character, and an underscore
> to match a blank.  In this case, you want to make sure blanks follow "VSM".
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ethan Lanz  wrote:
>
>> Or simply
>>
>> PIPE CP QUERY NAMES|NFIND VSM - |CONS
>>
>> feeds nicely into additional piping.
>>
>>
>
> --
> Bruce Hayden
> z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
> IBM, Endicott, NY
>



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Bruce Hayden]

You should use "nfind VSM_-" to make sure you don't match a userid that
starts with VSM that happens to be logged in via a VSM machine.  Remember
that pipeline "find" uses a blank to match any character, and an underscore
to match a blank.  In this case, you want to make sure blanks follow "VSM".

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ethan Lanz  wrote:

> Or simply
>
> PIPE CP QUERY NAMES|NFIND VSM - |CONS
>
> feeds nicely into additional piping.
>
>

-- 
Bruce Hayden
z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
IBM, Endicott, NY

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Ethan Lanz]

Or simply

PIPE CP QUERY NAMES|NFIND VSM - |CONS

feeds nicely into additional piping.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Scott Rohling wrote:

> Hi Frank --  Yes, that pipe looks like it makes good use of rules 1 and 2
> and comes up with a good list.   Nicely done - thanks!
>
> I still don't think the VSM info should be under Q NAMES - and those sneaky
> rules make me suspect it was a shoehorn  :-)   But it's been interesting and
> now at least I have a better way than just tossing 'VSM'.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Scott Rohling
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers  > wrote:
>
>>  Are you looking to do something like this?QN EXEC:
>>
>>
>>
>> /*   QUERY NAMES replacement   */
>>
>>   Trace "O"
>>
>>   Address "COMMAND"
>>
>>   "PIPE (endchar ?)",
>>
>>   "|  CP QUERY NAMES",
>>
>>   "|  ZONE 9.1 NFIND -"||,
>>
>>   "|  SPLIT ,",
>>
>>   "|  STRIP",
>>
>>   "|  SORT",
>>
>>   "|  SPEC 1.15 1.16",
>>
>>   "|o:FANOUT",
>>
>>   "|  SNAKE 5",
>>
>>   "|i:FANIN",
>>
>>   "|  CONSOLE",
>>
>> "?o:",
>>
>>   "|  COUNT LINES",
>>
>>   "|  SPEC /  Total number of users = / 1 1-* NW",
>>
>>   "|j:FANIN",
>>
>>   "|  JOIN *",
>>
>>   "|i:",
>>
>> "?o:",
>>
>>   "|  SPEC FS - F2 STRIP 1",
>>
>>   "|p:FIND DSC"||,
>>
>>   "|  COUNT LINES",
>>
>>   "|  SPEC /  disconnected = / 1 1-* NW",
>>
>>   "|  j:"
>>
>> Exit rc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Rohling
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:30 PM
>> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: VSM - TCPIP
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok - #1 helps a little (but I'm assuming a real user can end up by itself
>> on a line too)  - #2 a bit more (yes, sneaky) - #3 even more, but probably
>> going a little far unless I'm going for 6 Sigma or something  :-)
>> Probably will stick with tossing VSM user cuz I'm a lazy old cuss.
>>
>> The good news for me is now I know why it's there and why I'm excluding it
>> ...   so..  thanks again...
>>
>> Scott Rohling
>>
>>  On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Alan Altmark 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling
>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the crickets
>> - who
>> > the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on
>> my face
>> > when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
>> >
>> > The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the
>> dash (-)
>> > to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
>> stuffing it
>> > into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.   But
>> no one
>> > asked me..  hmmph
>> >
>> > Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..Keeping
>> my
>> > fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)
>>
>> Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
>> 1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
>> 2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky,
>> huh?)
>> 3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS"
>>
>> Alan Altmark
>> z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
>> IBM Endicott
>>
>>
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Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Scott Rohling]

Hi Frank --  Yes, that pipe looks like it makes good use of rules 1 and 2
and comes up with a good list.   Nicely done - thanks!

I still don't think the VSM info should be under Q NAMES - and those sneaky
rules make me suspect it was a shoehorn  :-)   But it's been interesting and
now at least I have a better way than just tossing 'VSM'.

Thanks all!

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers
wrote:

>  Are you looking to do something like this?QN EXEC:
>
>
>
> /*   QUERY NAMES replacement   */
>
>   Trace "O"
>
>   Address "COMMAND"
>
>   "PIPE (endchar ?)",
>
>   "|  CP QUERY NAMES",
>
>   "|  ZONE 9.1 NFIND -"||,
>
>   "|  SPLIT ,",
>
>   "|  STRIP",
>
>   "|  SORT",
>
>   "|  SPEC 1.15 1.16",
>
>   "|o:FANOUT",
>
>   "|  SNAKE 5",
>
>   "|i:FANIN",
>
>   "|  CONSOLE",
>
> "?o:",
>
>   "|  COUNT LINES",
>
>   "|  SPEC /  Total number of users = / 1 1-* NW",
>
>   "|j:FANIN",
>
>   "|  JOIN *",
>
>   "|i:",
>
> "?o:",
>
>   "|  SPEC FS - F2 STRIP 1",
>
>   "|p:FIND DSC"||,
>
>   "|  COUNT LINES",
>
>   "|  SPEC /  disconnected = / 1 1-* NW",
>
>   "|  j:"
>
> Exit rc
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Scott Rohling
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:30 PM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: VSM - TCPIP
>
>
>
> Ok - #1 helps a little (but I'm assuming a real user can end up by itself
> on a line too)  - #2 a bit more (yes, sneaky) - #3 even more, but probably
> going a little far unless I'm going for 6 Sigma or something  :-)
> Probably will stick with tossing VSM user cuz I'm a lazy old cuss.
>
> The good news for me is now I know why it's there and why I'm excluding it
> ...   so..  thanks again...
>
> Scott Rohling
>
>  On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Alan Altmark 
> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling
>
>  wrote:
>
> > Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the crickets
> - who
> > the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on
> my face
> > when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
> >
> > The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the
> dash (-)
> > to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
> stuffing it
> > into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.   But
> no one
> > asked me..  hmmph
> >
> > Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..Keeping
> my
> > fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)
>
> Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
> 1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
> 2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky,
> huh?)
> 3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS"
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
> IBM Endicott
>
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Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Frank M. Ramaekers]

Are you looking to do something like this?QN EXEC:

 

/*   QUERY NAMES replacement
*/

  Trace "O"


  Address "COMMAND"


  "PIPE (endchar ?)",


  "|  CP QUERY NAMES",


  "|  ZONE 9.1 NFIND -"||,


  "|  SPLIT ,",


  "|  STRIP",


  "|  SORT",


  "|  SPEC 1.15 1.16",


  "|o:FANOUT",


  "|  SNAKE 5",


  "|i:FANIN",


  "|  CONSOLE",


"?o:",


  "|  COUNT LINES",


  "|  SPEC /  Total number of users = / 1 1-* NW",


  "|j:FANIN",


  "|  JOIN *",


  "|i:",


"?o:",


  "|  SPEC FS - F2 STRIP 1",


  "|p:FIND DSC"||,


  "|  COUNT LINES",   

  "|  SPEC /  disconnected = / 1 1-* NW", 

  "|  j:" 

Exit rc   

 

 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:30 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VSM - TCPIP

 

Ok - #1 helps a little (but I'm assuming a real user can end up by
itself on a line too)  - #2 a bit more (yes, sneaky) - #3 even more, but
probably going a little far unless I'm going for 6 Sigma or something
:-)Probably will stick with tossing VSM user cuz I'm a lazy old
cuss.  

The good news for me is now I know why it's there and why I'm excluding
it ...   so..  thanks again...

Scott Rohling  



On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Alan Altmark 
wrote:

On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling

 wrote:

> Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the
crickets
- who
> the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on
my face
> when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
>
> The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the
dash (-)
> to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
stuffing it
> into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.   But
no one
> asked me..  hmmph
>
> Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..
Keeping
my
> fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)

Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky,
huh?)
3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS"

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
IBM Endicott

 


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Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Mark Pace]

AMEN.  My father is retired IBMer and we moved a lot.

My stint with IBM was to short to have been moved.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jim Bohnsack  wrote:

>  IBM-I've Been Moved---even if not relocated.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 9/15/2010 9:28 PM, Chip Davis wrote:
>
>> And I guess Scott has the honor of the last IBMVM problem solved by
>> Alan as a developer... :-/
>>
>> I hope Alan enjoys the "deeper, more direct experience" he's going to
>> have with us.  If it weren't for all the traveling...
>>
>> -Chip-
>>
>>  --
> James Bohnsack
> (972) 596-6377 home/office
> (972) 342-5823 cell
>



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Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Jim Bohnsack]

 IBM-I've Been Moved---even if not relocated.

Jim

On 9/15/2010 9:28 PM, Chip Davis wrote:

And I guess Scott has the honor of the last IBMVM problem solved by
Alan as a developer... :-/

I hope Alan enjoys the "deeper, more direct experience" he's going to
have with us.  If it weren't for all the traveling...

-Chip-


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(972) 596-6377 home/office
(972) 342-5823 cell

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Chip Davis]

And I guess Scott has the honor of the last IBMVM problem solved by 
Alan as a developer... :-/


I hope Alan enjoys the "deeper, more direct experience" he's going to 
have with us.  If it weren't for all the traveling...


-Chip-

On 9/16/10 00:30 Scott Rohling said:
Ok - #1 helps a little (but I'm assuming a real user can end up by 
itself on a line too)  - #2 a bit more (yes, sneaky) - #3 even more, but 
probably going a little far unless I'm going for 6 Sigma or something  
:-)Probably will stick with tossing VSM user cuz I'm a lazy old cuss. 

The good news for me is now I know why it's there and why I'm excluding 
it ...   so..  thanks again...


Scott Rohling 



On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Alan Altmark > wrote:


On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling
mailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the
crickets
- who
 > the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a
grin on
my face
 > when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
 >
 > The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the
dash (-)
 > to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
stuffing it
 > into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.
  But
no one
 > asked me..  hmmph
 >
 > Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..  
 Keeping

my
 > fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)

Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky,
huh?)
3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS"

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
IBM Endicott

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Scott Rohling]

Ok - #1 helps a little (but I'm assuming a real user can end up by itself on
a line too)  - #2 a bit more (yes, sneaky) - #3 even more, but probably
going a little far unless I'm going for 6 Sigma or something  :-)
Probably will stick with tossing VSM user cuz I'm a lazy old cuss.

The good news for me is now I know why it's there and why I'm excluding it
...   so..  thanks again...

Scott Rohling


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:

> On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling
>  wrote:
> > Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the crickets
> - who
> > the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on
> my face
> > when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
> >
> > The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the
> dash (-)
> > to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
> stuffing it
> > into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.   But
> no one
> > asked me..  hmmph
> >
> > Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..Keeping
> my
> > fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)
>
> Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
> 1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
> 2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky,
> huh?)
> 3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS"
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
> IBM Endicott
>

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Rich Smrcina]

 On 09/15/2010 05:57 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development (T minus 05h 05m 42s and counting...)
IBM Endicott


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Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Alan Altmark]

On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 07:46 EDT, Scott Rohling 
 wrote:
> Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the crickets 
- who 
> the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on 
my face 
> when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.
> 
> The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the 
dash (-) 
> to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than 
stuffing it 
> into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their status.   But 
no one 
> asked me..  hmmph
> 
> Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..Keeping 
my 
> fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)

Perhaps it would help to know that all VSMs
1. Appear on a separate line of output on QUERY NAMES
2. Have the '-' in column 9.  User IDs have it in column 10.  (Sneaky, 
huh?)
3. Can be seen via "CP QUERY IUCV *CCS" 

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development (T minus 3h 50m)
IBM Endicott

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Scott Rohling]

Ok - so this is about linemode sessions.   And yeah - I get the crickets -
who the heck uses linemode?   I suppose it fits.   I always have a grin on
my face when I explain virtual reader/punch/printer to non-z/VM folk.

The consistency factor is me expecting the first word in front of the dash
(-) to be a guest name.   So I still think Q VSM would be better than
stuffing it into Q NAMES where I'm looking for guest names and their
status.   But no one asked me..  hmmph

Sounds like I get my list of running guests by ignoring VSM..Keeping my
fingers crossed no one names a guest VSM until I retire   :-)

Thanks David and Alan --  as always - I keep learning from you -

Scott Rohling


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:

> On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 06:35 EDT, Scott Rohling
>  wrote:
> > Just wondering if anyone else sees the value in finding "VSM -
> TCPIP" as an
> > entry when doing a 'CP QUERY NAMES'.
>
> I do, I do!
>
> > This is described as being the users of
> > the VTAM service machine ...   As someone who often writes system
> utilities
> > which do a QUERY NAMES to find the active users - this is always
> something I
> > have to code around.  I know there are still SNA users out there, but
> have
> > always wondered if it's still relevant or even consistent to list it
> under
> > QUERY NAMES (rather than say, a QUERY VSM cmd)?Always interested in
> > learning from other listers...  I'm sure I'm missing something that
> pulls it
> > all together.
>
> VM TCP/IP uses the same *CCS interface for linemode telnet sessions as
> VTAM does for its terminal sessions.  The VM book "VSM" references were
> all added back in VM/SP R4, and so predate any VM "recognition"
> (politically) of TCP/IP.  To make it a bit worse, CP can't really tell the
> difference between VTAM and TCP/IP in this regard.
>
> But *I* know what VSMs "VTAM" and "TCPIP" do and so know how to interpret
> the users I see following each VSM.
>
> I mean, haven't you thought it a bit strange that CP DISABLE SNA will stop
> linemode telnet sessions?!?  Haven't you?   Hello?  
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development (T minus 05h 05m 42s and counting...)
> IBM Endicott
>

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[Alan Altmark]

On Wednesday, 09/15/2010 at 06:35 EDT, Scott Rohling 
 wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else sees the value in finding "VSM - 
TCPIP" as an 
> entry when doing a 'CP QUERY NAMES'.

I do, I do!

> This is described as being the users of 
> the VTAM service machine ...   As someone who often writes system 
utilities 
> which do a QUERY NAMES to find the active users - this is always 
something I 
> have to code around.  I know there are still SNA users out there, but 
have 
> always wondered if it's still relevant or even consistent to list it 
under 
> QUERY NAMES (rather than say, a QUERY VSM cmd)?Always interested in 
> learning from other listers...  I'm sure I'm missing something that 
pulls it 
> all together.

VM TCP/IP uses the same *CCS interface for linemode telnet sessions as 
VTAM does for its terminal sessions.  The VM book "VSM" references were 
all added back in VM/SP R4, and so predate any VM "recognition" 
(politically) of TCP/IP.  To make it a bit worse, CP can't really tell the 
difference between VTAM and TCP/IP in this regard.

But *I* know what VSMs "VTAM" and "TCPIP" do and so know how to interpret 
the users I see following each VSM.

I mean, haven't you thought it a bit strange that CP DISABLE SNA will stop 
linemode telnet sessions?!?  Haven't you?   Hello?   

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development (T minus 05h 05m 42s and counting...)
IBM Endicott

Re: VSM - TCPIP

[David Boyes]

VM Tcp uses the VTAM linemode console support to do linemode telnet (not 
tn3270) support. Do a telnet to your VM system and log in, then do a q names. 
You'll see 

user - TCPIPn

as a 'terminal id'.

At the time that code was written, I don't think LDEVs did line mode and there 
was a requirement to support plain telnet so they grabbed the SNA console 
support which did, thus the VSM indicator.

It's handy for doing system automation stuff - much easier to drive from 
Programs than LDEVs.







On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:40 PM, "Scott Rohling"  wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone else sees the value in finding "VSM - TCPIP" as 
> an entry when doing a 'CP QUERY NAMES'.   This is described as being the 
> users of the VTAM service machine ...   As someone who often writes system 
> utilities which do a QUERY NAMES to find the active users - this is always 
> something I have to code around.  I know there are still SNA users out there, 
> but have always wondered if it's still relevant or even consistent to list it 
> under QUERY NAMES (rather than say, a QUERY VSM cmd)?Always interested in 
> learning from other listers...  I'm sure I'm missing something that pulls it 
> all together.
> 
> Scott Rohling

VSM - TCPIP

[Scott Rohling]

Just wondering if anyone else sees the value in finding "VSM     - TCPIP" as
an entry when doing a 'CP QUERY NAMES'.   This is described as being the
users of the VTAM service machine ...   As someone who often writes system
utilities which do a QUERY NAMES to find the active users - this is always
something I have to code around.  I know there are still SNA users out
there, but have always wondered if it's still relevant or even consistent to
list it under QUERY NAMES (rather than say, a QUERY VSM cmd)?Always
interested in learning from other listers...  I'm sure I'm missing something
that pulls it all together.

Scott Rohling