Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
On Tuesday, 06/20/2006 at 11:07 AST, "Roland P. Chung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reading between the lines: customer cannot order a copy of > z/VM 4.40 because it has been pulled from marketing. The > system just don't accept the order. But, if the customer > can get a copy from other places, IBM will let the customer > uses it as long as the customer registers the software with > IBM and is paying the licence fee. IBM wouldn't ask where > the customer obtained the copy from. "... this pratice (of > getting a copy of the software from other customer other > than from IBM) is neither recommended or condomed (by us)." I've talked, like, a million times about READING your license agreement, which is a binding legal document. It's a short document and worth the effort. The IBMer who told you that it was ok is wrong. It is not ok, not in the fashion you describe. There does exist a legal method that (a) approves getting a copy from a 3rd party, and (b) gives the 3rd party permission to give you a copy of the software. It, too, is a legal document signed by IBM lawyers, your lawyers, and the 3rd party lawyers. If anyone wants to give you IBM software, encourage them to their BP or IBMer and tell him/her that they want a "3rd party agreement". (This is how your software is licensed for use at a DR site, btw.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Well, that is IBM. Reading between the lines: customer cannot order a copy of z/VM 4.40 because it has been pulled from marketing. The system just don't accept the order. But, if the customer can get a copy from other places, IBM will let the customer uses it as long as the customer registers the software with IBM and is paying the licence fee. IBM wouldn't ask where the customer obtained the copy from. "... this pratice (of getting a copy of the software from other customer other than from IBM) is neither recommended or condomed (by us)." So, any taker? I promise I wouldn't tell IBM you give me a copy of z/VM 4.40. I also promise my customer would register with IBM and pay the licensing fee. Please contact me off-list. TIA. It will be greatly appreciated. Regards, ...Roland --- "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that permission to get implies permission > to send. However, I don't think the stated permission to > get is official, and probably cannot be thought reliable > unless stated in writing and signed by the appropriate > people. Let us know when you get that :-) > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael > Coffin > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:56 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation > tape for 3390 system > > I'm confused, IBM said they'd license z/VM 4.4.0 for you > if you could get a copy of the installation tape from > another customer, but won't permit other customers to > send you a copy of the tape. Am I understanding the > situation correctly? > > IF permission to borrow an existing customer's tape(s) > can be obtained from IBM, I may be able to help. > > Michael Coffin, President > MC Consulting Company, Inc. > 57 Tamarack Drive > Stoughton, Massachusetts 02072 > > Voice: (781) 344-9837FAX: (781) 344-7683 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.mccci.com <http://www.mccci.com/> > We employ aggressive SPAM filters. If you cannot reply > or send email to mccci.com go to > www.mccci.com/spamblockremove.php > <http://www.spamabuse.org/images/anti-spam.gif> > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodds, Jim > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:13 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation > tape for 3390 system > We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from > IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. > > Jim Dodds > Systems Programmer > Kentucky State University > 400 East Main Street > Frankfort, Ky 40601 > 502 597 6114 > > _ > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. > Chung > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape > for 3390 system > > Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. > > We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the > rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He > can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy > of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. > > Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a > copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 > system. Greatly appreciated. > > > With best regards, > > ...Roland Chung > Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) > MAXC Consultants Inc. > Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) > 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 > > ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the > roses. ** >
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
On 6/20/06, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that permission to get implies permission to send. However, I don't think the stated permission to get is official, and probably cannot be thought reliable unless stated in writing and signed by the appropriate people. Let us know when you get that J Back in the old days as a customer, I have more than once assisted our friendly IBMer with a copy of some installation tape that he would take to a customer for whatever reason he felt appropriate (like when someone misplaced the order for a proof of concept). But have one customer ship copies of licensed materials to another potential customer directly does seem a bit beyond the license agreement. From what I remember, you could also install from CD (that emulates 3420) or use a copy of the ADCD set. Those are probably easier to locate and handle by friendly IBMers. Rob --
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Title: Message It seems to me that permission to get implies permission to send. However, I don’t think the stated permission to get is official, and probably cannot be thought reliable unless stated in writing and signed by the appropriate people. Let us know when you get that J Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Michael Coffin Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system I'm confused, IBM said they'd license z/VM 4.4.0 for you if you could get a copy of the installation tape from another customer, but won't permit other customers to send you a copy of the tape. Am I understanding the situation correctly? IF permission to borrow an existing customer's tape(s) can be obtained from IBM, I may be able to help. Michael Coffin, President MC Consulting Company, Inc. 57 Tamarack Drive Stoughton, Massachusetts 02072 Voice: (781) 344-9837 FAX: (781) 344-7683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mccci.com We employ aggressive SPAM filters. If you cannot reply or send email to mccci.com go to www.mccci.com/spamblockremove.php -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodds, Jim Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards, ...Roland Chung Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) MAXC Consultants Inc. Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Title: Message I'm confused, IBM said they'd license z/VM 4.4.0 for you if you could get a copy of the installation tape from another customer, but won't permit other customers to send you a copy of the tape. Am I understanding the situation correctly? IF permission to borrow an existing customer's tape(s) can be obtained from IBM, I may be able to help. Michael Coffin, President MC Consulting Company, Inc. 57 Tamarack Drive Stoughton, Massachusetts 02072 Voice: (781) 344-9837 FAX: (781) 344-7683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mccci.com We employ aggressive SPAM filters. If you cannot reply or send email to mccci.com go to www.mccci.com/spamblockremove.php -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodds, JimSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:13 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. ChungSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Roland, I am sorry, I thought for sure it was you with the bad tapes. Well if you ever decide you need them checked just let me know I will be happy to do it for you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hi Jim, we are not having problem with the tapes. Thanks for the offering. Regards, ...Roland "Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Roland, I am very sorry about IBM’s stand on z/VM, but I will be glad to test those 5 3590 type J tapes that you think are bad to see if it is the tape drive or actually the tapes that are bad. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Hi Jim, we are not having problem with the tapes. Thanks for the offering. Regards, ...Roland"Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Roland, I am very sorry about IBMs stand on z/VM, but I will be glad to test those 5 3590 type J tapes that you think are bad to see if it is the tape drive or actually the tapes that are bad. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. ChungSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:30 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Jim, great news! However, at the conference call, IBM rep. said "...I will licence the product if you can get a copy of z/VM distribution tape from somewhere else". However, he also said "(getting a copy other than from IBM)... is not condomed nor recommended." That is the "official" position of IBM. So, I am afraid you wouldn't get an "official" OK from IBM. Thanks for your offering. Regards, ...Roland "Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim DoddsSystems ProgrammerKentucky State University400 East Main StreetFrankfort, Ky 40601502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. ChungSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Hi Roland, As far as I know, z/VM 3.1.0 is the last release that will run on a Multiprise 2000. See Appendix A. IBM Servers Supported by z/VM at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HCSF8A60/A.0?SHELF=hcsh2a60&DT=20030505141539#HDRXVMCPU or z/VM V4R4.0 General Information (GIM) Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: June 20, 2006 11:04 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards, ...Roland Chung Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) MAXC Consultants Inc. Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. ** The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Roland, I am very sorry about IBM’s stand on z/VM, but I will be glad to test those 5 3590 type J tapes that you think are bad to see if it is the tape drive or actually the tapes that are bad. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Jim, great news! However, at the conference call, IBM rep. said "...I will licence the product if you can get a copy of z/VM distribution tape from somewhere else". However, he also said "(getting a copy other than from IBM)... is not condomed nor recommended." That is the "official" position of IBM. So, I am afraid you wouldn't get an "official" OK from IBM. Thanks for your offering. Regards, ...Roland "Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards, ...Roland Chung Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) MAXC Consultants Inc. Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Hi Tom, yes, only the support part. But for z/VM 4.40, it will be Out of Services on Sept. 30, 2006. Maybe you want to act fast. Regards, ...RolandTom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is interesting.Apparently, IBM (VM group) is no longer supporting 31 bit hardware. Itseems to me that IBM always kept the last release of an OS available fora particular hardware platform available for order. Perhaps it is justsupported.I have a MP3000 client, that I have been hinting that VM would besomething they need to look at, again. If z/VM 4.x isn't available andz/VM 5.x doesn't support 31 bit hardware, I need to do some backtracking.Tom DuerbuschTHD Consulting>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 10:03 AM >>>Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again.We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said itwas out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, hesaid, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence itfor us.Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of thedistribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Hello Jim, great news! However, at the conference call, IBM rep. said "...I will licence the product if you can get a copy of z/VM distribution tape from somewhere else". However, he also said "(getting a copy other than from IBM)... is not condomed nor recommended." That is the "official" position of IBM. So, I am afraid you wouldn't get an "official" OK from IBM. Thanks for your offering. Regards, ...Roland "Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. ChungSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
That is interesting. Apparently, IBM (VM group) is no longer supporting 31 bit hardware. It seems to me that IBM always kept the last release of an OS available for a particular hardware platform available for order. Perhaps it is just supported. I have a MP3000 client, that I have been hinting that VM would be something they need to look at, again. If z/VM 4.x isn't available and z/VM 5.x doesn't support 31 bit hardware, I need to do some back tracking. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 10:03 AM >>> Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards, ...Roland Chung Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) MAXC Consultants Inc. Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards, ...Roland Chung Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM) MAXC Consultants Inc. Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268) 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6 ** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **
We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape for 3390 system
Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again. We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the rep. said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us. Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390 system. Greatly appreciated. With best regards,...Roland ChungSenior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)MAXC Consultants Inc.Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6** Life is short. Stop once in a while and smell the roses. **