Re: How Goes SiteSucker?

2010-09-08 Thread Al Poulin 
On Sep 8, 6:51 pm, T-n-T  wrote:
> If you are comfortable using terminal try wget. Here is a good  
> starter article on getting it to work.http://lifehacker.com/161202/
> geek-to-live--mastering-wget

Thanks Todd, but I just peeked at that website.  That bit of terminal
is way over my head.  I need a more friendly interface.

Al Poulin

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Re: How Goes SiteSucker?

2010-09-08 Thread T-n-T 
If you are comfortable using terminal try wget. Here is a good  
starter article on getting it to work. http://lifehacker.com/161202/ 
geek-to-live--mastering-wget


Todd

On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Al Poulin wrote:

In looking for tools to download websites including multiple pages,  
such as a main page with links to the site's contents, it seems  
that SiteSucker for Mac OS X is more in use than other tools.

http://www.sitesucker.us/mac.html

Any problems?  Cautions?  Alternatives for the job?  Better to  
download the disk image or the ZIP Archive?


Using OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

Thanks,
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How Goes SiteSucker?

2010-09-08 Thread Al Poulin 
In looking for tools to download websites including multiple pages, such as a 
main page with links to the site's contents, it seems that SiteSucker for Mac 
OS X is more in use than other tools.
http://www.sitesucker.us/mac.html

Any problems?  Cautions?  Alternatives for the job?  Better to download the 
disk image or the ZIP Archive?

Using OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

Thanks,
Al Poulin

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Ashgrove 
On Sep 8, 2:09 pm, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
> I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that there will 
> be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been hearing that for ten 
> years.


Amen to that. As a late switcher, it took me nearly a year to finally
get rid of ClamXav, and a full three years till I finally tuned out
all those apocalyptic pundits.

Now, if I could stop people from sneezing on my Macs...

F

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce Johnson 

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> 
> And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
> this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
> sell preventative software.
> 
> I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
> will set the record straight if this is wrong.

With the caveat that Anecdote != Data :

I've been using Macs since 1987, and helping to administer a reasonably large 
institution's (mainly WIndows-based) systems since 1994. 

In all that time:

There have been occasional "proofs of concept" malware releases for OS X, but 
they have never propagated very far, if at all. I've never seen one in the wild 
here.

All the malware that our current AV systems see are 100% Windows-based. (and 
they do have the Mac malware profiles included) The ONLY stuff we've ever 
caught on Macs are Windows-oriented email attachments that came in on HD's from 
other institutions.

I have *once* run into websites doing funky stuff to Mac-identifiable web 
browsers, that was about two years ago, and it didn't last very long.

I've twice run into seriously malformed malware websites that have tried very 
hard to convince me that my "C:\Windows" directory was infected with a long 
list of nasty-sounding bits of software.

I got the WDEF virus spread pretty nastily through my stack of System 6 floppy 
disks, which updating to System 7 cured.

That's about it.

I never got caught by the later classic Mac viruses because all you had to do 
to avoid those was turn of Program Autoexecution in the Quicktime Control panel.

I've been told that you can occasionally find Word Macro viruses lurking about 
in old, moldering software and mailing list archives, although those may also 
be "...and then they found a HOOK in the fender of the car!!!" tales.

I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that there will 
be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been hearing that for ten years.

Any day now.

(and it's not a matter of market share...I've witnessed a bit of PC malware go 
around that was aimed at a specific firewall product that probably had a 
worldwide distribution in the low 10,000's of copies.)

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Ashgrove 
Oh boy. Here we go again.

By the way, nowadays viruses other than malware are usually nothing
more than that: something a company cooks up to
scare computer users into buying their product. And the most effective
forms of malware are not viruses, but phishing, which require you to
actively go to their fake websites and voluntarily give them all your
personal info --something that afflicts PCs and Macs alike.

F

On Sep 8, 12:03 pm, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio"
 wrote:
> We took a poll years ago on the PCI list. Out of responses from that list
> and soem who responded with figures from other lists of about 2,500 listers
> only one real virus was found and that was something a company cooked up to
> scare Mac users into buying their product.
>
> And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
> this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
> sell preventative software.
>
> I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
> will set the record straight if this is wrong.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio 
We took a poll years ago on the PCI list. Out of responses from that list
and soem who responded with figures from other lists of about 2,500 listers
only one real virus was found and that was something a company cooked up to
scare Mac users into buying their product.

And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
sell preventative software.

I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
will set the record straight if this is wrong.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio 
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Bill Chapman  wrote:

>  I have Virtual PC 7 installed on 2 Macs. Here is confirmation that Macs
> can be infected:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828574
>
>
> On 08/09/10 12:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove  wrote:
>
>> Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
>> possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...
>>
>>  -- __
>
> Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's
> problem.
>
> I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of the
> HD can be infected.
>
> Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any
> credible report of one in the "wild".
>
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
>
>
>
---_------
++===

By that you mean WINBLOWs running on a Mac can be infected, of course. Not
the Mac OS.

In keeping with what I posted.










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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Bill Chapman 
 I have Virtual PC 7 installed on 2 Macs. Here is confirmation that 
Macs can be infected:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828574


On 08/09/10 12:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:



On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove > wrote:


Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...

-- __

Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's 
problem.


I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of 
the HD can be infected.


Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any 
credible report of one in the "wild".



Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer

fluxstrin...@gmail.com 

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http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer
http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/
http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com 


http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/



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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Al Poulin 


On Sep 8, 8:16 am, Jack Suggs  wrote:
> Correction: That's "Mac Antivirus"... although for some guys, "Man
> Antivirus" might be a good thing to have.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Jack Suggs  wrote:
> > Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are
> > you using?
>
> > FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus...
>
> >http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> >http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


Hmmm, did I see $$$ signs and snakeoil in the top hits?

Al Poulin

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

2010-09-08 Thread Jack Suggs 
Correction: That's "Mac Antivirus"... although for some guys, "Man
Antivirus" might be a good thing to have.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Jack Suggs  wrote:

> Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are
> you using?
>
> FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus...
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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