Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/25 21:24, Steven wrote:


eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS


I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it 
will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard.


Tina

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I really hate the look of iTunes 10, but there isn't really a new UI, just 
those odd vertical buttons and lack of color on the icons. I have a feeling 
that the vertical buttons will be a lot like the tab bar in the Safari 4 beta. 
Apple will try to justify it and back it for a short time, but within a few 
months they will realize how bad they are and bring back the standard 
horizontal buttons. The colored icons will probably be like the loading bar, 
eventually returning but maybe not until the next major version, because while 
many people miss them, a majority of people won't notice or care.

The last time Apple released a new design that was largely criticized, the 
features that were removed eventually made it back, and I think that's how it 
will be with iTunes 10. Until then, there are plenty of ways to get around 
Apple's mistake.

Steven


On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Midnight rider wrote:

> Does anyone dislike the new UI? I don't but this is the same way i felt 
> about Aqua when it first took over the platinum theme weird and new... 
> and the well known "What is Apple up to this time?" kinda feeling.

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 25, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Steven wrote:

I'm considering getting a Blu-Ray drive when I finally get fed up  
with my SuperDrive and can afford to do something about it. The  
cheapest route would of course be an external DVD drive, but when I  
took my PowerBook G4 in for some repairs they said that they charge  
a standard price for repairs regardless of parts, something like  
$250-300 (which was a big plus at the time since I needed to replace  
a logic board that can cost $500+ from third parties), and I have  
seen some BD-ROM/DVD-RW/CD-RW drives compatible with Mac for around  
that price. If I were going to pay that much anyways I would want  
increased functionality, and, being the cinephile I am, eventually I  
will need to start upgrading my collection of post-2000 DVDs to Blu- 
Ray (all films made before 2000 I only buy and watch on LaserDisc)  
and since I don't have an HDTV and don't plan on buying one in the  
near future the Mac would be the only way to watch HD. My reasoning  
is that although I don't have any problem with the video quality of  
DVD and I don't even have a TV that could make use of the increased  
definition, eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD  
eclipsed VHS, and it would be more cost effective to switch sooner  
and start buying movies on Blu-Ray so I have fewer DVDs to replace  
later on. But I'm not planning on doing that very soon, and for  
people who don't have a large number of videos and don't care about  
HD that solution wouldn't make much sense.


Good idea.  DVDs have noticeably chunky pixels on a 24-inch screen,  
which is just large enough (1920x1200) for Blu-ray's 1080p[1].  And  
external is a good idea so I can use it on any machine -- such as a  
new iMac, were I to buy one.


The only problem is the iMac is running Tiger, for which VLC (at  
least) has dropped support.  Perhaps it's time to install a newer OS X. 
[2]


And yeah, I have no interest in buying a TV.

Josh

[1] Assuming a 16:9 aspect ratio, this means a width of 1920 pixels.

[2] I hesitate to say 'upgrade', since I consider differently code- 
named OS X versions to be separate and incompatible products.  Hence  
'newer'.



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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
Does anyone dislike the new UI? I don't but this is the same way i felt
about Aqua when it first took over the platinum theme weird and new...
and the well known "What is Apple up to this time?" kinda feeling.

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
Blu ray drives aren't all that expensive if you know where to look. I picked
up myself a sweet drive back in best buy for only $170, and it is made by
HP: It has DVD reading/burning, CD Reading Burning up to 64x, DVD dual layer
burning/reading, DVD quad layer reading/burning, Lightscribe laser
engraving, and of course, Blu-Ray reading/burning. I burned a blu-ray disc
for  part of my backup volume (about 25GB out of my total 144.23GB backed up
now.) and my iMac G4 took about 3.2 hours burning it. I decided to get one
for my G5 iMac but put it through an external enclosure and through firewire
and it only took 1 hour to burn a 25GB image.

My iMac g4 takes 15-22 minutes average burning a 7GB image my G5 iMac
only takes 10-13 minutes at most, 9 minutes was the shortest ever.

Also, don't go through with USB. USB IS SLOW. it lags even on USB 3.0.
To save time, get firewire to make sure the speeds are good. I made this
mistake by buying a USB powered external DVD drive to install leopard on my
Power Mac G4 sawtooth, and installation took 5-6 hours, but IDK because the
intro video woke me up. I know that most of you think that the G4 sawtooth
is slow, but in reality even for the G4 sawtooth 5 hours is VERY slow. at
most my G4 sawtooth takes about the same amount of time as any other macs
would take to install leopard, even the intel machines which was 1.5 hours.
I later got  that blu ray drive (which is now in my iMac) and i tested it
and it only took 1.5 hours to install leopard. Basically, my advice: USB is
good for transferring small things. Anything larger than 10-20Gb should be
handled by firewire. This is just some advice from a person (me) who needs
fast transfer speeds. I have an 80GB EIDE 10,000 RPM HDD in there (it cost
me $179.99) and it has a transfer speed of about 37MB/s whenever i copy or
move something onto the same thing or anything else in the system except for
USB.

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I'm considering getting a Blu-Ray drive when I finally get fed up with my 
SuperDrive and can afford to do something about it. The cheapest route would of 
course be an external DVD drive, but when I took my PowerBook G4 in for some 
repairs they said that they charge a standard price for repairs regardless of 
parts, something like $250-300 (which was a big plus at the time since I needed 
to replace a logic board that can cost $500+ from third parties), and I have 
seen some BD-ROM/DVD-RW/CD-RW drives compatible with Mac for around that price. 
If I were going to pay that much anyways I would want increased functionality, 
and, being the cinephile I am, eventually I will need to start upgrading my 
collection of post-2000 DVDs to Blu-Ray (all films made before 2000 I only buy 
and watch on LaserDisc) and since I don't have an HDTV and don't plan on buying 
one in the near future the Mac would be the only way to watch HD. My reasoning 
is that although I don't have any problem with the video quality of DVD and I 
don't even have a TV that could make use of the increased definition, 
eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS, and it would be 
more cost effective to switch sooner and start buying movies on Blu-Ray so I 
have fewer DVDs to replace later on. But I'm not planning on doing that very 
soon, and for people who don't have a large number of videos and don't care 
about HD that solution wouldn't make much sense.

Steven


On Sep 25, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:
> 
> Should I pay the Apple Store to replace the dead optical drive with the same 
> model, pay a third party to install a better device, buy an external DVD 
> drive (that doesn't require opening the iMac), or just punt the whole issue 
> and watch films on my 15-inch MacBook Pro?
> 
> Josh

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
My third generation iPod was more like a 5 month shelf life, but that was 
mainly because I kept it in the pocket of a baggy coat and regularly 
(accidentally, of course) slammed it in the car door (which is in turn why I 
had to replace the hard drive). I learned my lesson, though, and three years 
later when I got my iPod Classic I treated it very well. I got it the day after 
the Classic was announced in September 2007, and more than three years later it 
hasn't given me a single problem (apart from a corrupt drive directory, which 
DiskWarrior easily fixed). If you treat an iPod like a Walkman, then sure it 
won't last very long, but as long as you treat it like a device that has 
complex computer parts, and (in the case of the iPod Classic), a hard disk 
drive, they can last for a very long time.

Steven


On Sep 25, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Midnight rider wrote:

> You know,,, not all iPods are 12 month shelf life devices. I have had an iPod 
> nano 3G since June 18, 2008 and it has been working fine for me ever since. I 
> bought the 8GB model, black, and it has minimal amount of scratches.
> 
> for sturdiness, get a 3G iPod nano. features, iPod touch. the screens on then 
> crack so easily...
> 
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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/25 20:00, Ashgrove wrote:

On Sep 25, 5:13 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:

>  Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward.
>  First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate the
>  iTunes library which is simply a matter of importing the .xml file that
>  you have moved to the desktop before launching iTunes 9.

Gotta be careful, though. You can end up deleting your entire library.
I know I did while downgrading iTunes in my Pismo...


As long as you drag the iTunes Music Library.xml file from 
~/Music/iTunes to the Desktop BEFORE launching iTunes 9 you will be 
fine. The truly paranoid can back the file up to CD, flash drive, 
Dropbox, etc… just to be safe.


Tina

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 25, 5:13 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
> Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward.
> First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate the
> iTunes library which is simply a matter of importing the .xml file that
> you have moved to the desktop before launching iTunes 9.

Gotta be careful, though. You can end up deleting your entire library.
I know I did while downgrading iTunes in my Pismo...

F

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/25 18:31, Joshua Juran wrote:

On Sep 25, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tina K. wrote:


On 2010/09/24 08:11, Walter Sheluk wrote:

Excellent suggestion: could you please give the url for the download: i
can't find it at apple.
Tanks.


iTunes 9.2.1 DL:




'Downgrade' instructions:




Recreate iTunes Library file:





The last link duplicates the first.

Josh


Thank you Josh, that should be:



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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 25, 7:57 pm, Joshua Juran  wrote:
> Should I pay the Apple Store to replace the dead optical drive with  
> the same model, pay a third party to install a better device, buy an  
> external DVD drive (that doesn't require opening the iMac), or just  
> punt the whole issue and watch films on my 15-inch MacBook Pro?

Josh,

I'd go with the external. USB DVD devices can be got for less than $40
these days, and that beats replacing the internal drive.

The MBP? Of course! In bed, or on the sofa with your feet up... :-)

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
You know,,, not all iPods are 12 month shelf life devices. I have had an
iPod nano 3G since June 18, 2008 and it has been working fine for me ever
since. I bought the 8GB model, black, and it has minimal amount of
scratches.

for sturdiness, get a 3G iPod nano. features, iPod touch. the screens on
then crack so easily...

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-25 Thread Bill Chapman

 'Weather'?

On 24/09/10 6:57 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote:

 On 10-09-24 12:19 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
I've been using FruitMenu, Xounds and WindowshadeX, since Jaguar 
days; I'll keep using them until Apple gets its head out of its butt 
and put the functionality back into the "Mac OS". 
The same here. Apple has simply allowed third party software 
developers to make a few bucks weather we like it or not.




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Re: Printing to PDF

2010-09-25 Thread Bill Chapman
 PDFs can be created directly out of programs like Adobe Illustrator. I 
use QuarkXPress as my page layout software, not Illustrator. I always 
use Adobe Acrobat Professional to create PDFs, taking the long way 
around (first saving as a Postscript file via Quark, then going through 
Acrobat Distiller. Professionals don't use Microsoft word for layout, 
btw. It's unreliable and very limited.


On 24/09/10 11:22 AM, Tina K. wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:52:47 -0400, N.Shani wrote:

My issue is with print-to-PDF: there zero (0) selection options -
even when page set-up is configured, the print-to-PDF seems to
completely ignore it, and any output requested as smaller than letter
size (in appearance, say 6x9) will end-up as letter size.

That doesn't sound like Adobe at all now does it? ;-)

I may be wrong but I believe that to format PDFs it takes a full blown
PDF creation app such as Acrobat Pro (not Reader) to control how a PDF
displays. I've never created one from scratch so I don't even know if
overall size is an option but they do all seem to be about the same
size.

Would selecting the data you want to save and invoking the Services>
TextEdit>  New Window Containing Selection service work for you? Or the
free text editor Bean.app also has a Paste Selection into Current
Document service that might (?) give you more control.

Tina



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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 25, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tina K. wrote:


On 2010/09/24 08:11, Walter Sheluk wrote:
Excellent suggestion: could you please give the url for the  
download: i

can't find it at apple.
Tanks.


iTunes 9.2.1 DL:




'Downgrade' instructions:




Recreate iTunes Library file:




The last link duplicates the first.

Josh


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Second-party* system extensions

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran

[Cross-posting to macos9]

On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote:


On 10-09-24 2:31 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:

I write my own OS 9 extensions.

such as ? and to do what ?


The most useful so far is Josh's Keys.  It enables Shift-, Option-,  
and Command- modifiers on text input in dialogs and the Finder (and  
any other users of the system-provided text editing routines, called  
TextEdit, not to be confused with TextEdit.app).  It also understands  
Forward Delete, and Option-modified delete in both directions.


Another is TESyncScrap.  Typical non-Carbon apps synchronize the  
system clipboard with the TextEdit clipboard when you switch layers,  
i.e. bring another app forward.  If in between copying text and  
switching layers the app crashes, or quits without synchronizing, or  
you're running it in an emulator and you try to paste in another app  
in the host OS, you'll get stale data.  A similar issue pertains to  
pasting into the emulator.  TESyncScrap synchronizes the clipboard  
just after Cut/Copy and just before Paste (like Carbon apps do),  
avoiding these issues.


Other hacks include one that moves the Quit menu item from the File  
menu to the application menu (as in OS X), a proof-of-concept Services  
menu, and TECalc, which replaces the text selection (e.g. "3 + 4")  
with the result of evaluating it (i.e "7") when you hit = on the keypad.


Josh

* First party is the vendor, second parties are the users, and third  
parties are any supplier who isn't you or the vendor.



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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Ashgrove wrote:


This is the first generation Core 2 Duo iMac. I have the 17" model.
They are great machines. They are prone to display/video card
problems, which apparently has been silently acknowledged by Apple,
since mine broke last year and was repaired for free by them (that was
before I got it but the previous owner gave me the paperwork).

That said, it's anyway a great machine, it's at a great price, and
chances are it'll never give you a headache. So I'd say go for it.


I have a late 2006 24-inch iMac (white, Core 2 Duo).  The graphics  
card was glitching, and I had it replaced under AppleCare.  The new  
card exhibits similar glitches when Quartz is under heavy stress (so  
far, only when I hit trigger Exposé by accident).


The hard drive died shortly after AppleCare ended, and the optical  
drive died some time after that.


It seems Apple uses shoddy components to lower the up-front cost,  
while raising the total cost of ownership.


Should I pay the Apple Store to replace the dead optical drive with  
the same model, pay a third party to install a better device, buy an  
external DVD drive (that doesn't require opening the iMac), or just  
punt the whole issue and watch films on my 15-inch MacBook Pro?


Josh


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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith
Yes, I messed up a couple of iPods myself. They were broken anyway. Unreliable, 
12 month shelf life things anyway.

I am a computer engineer myself, so i delight in dismantling things, especially 
apple products, well, when their warranty has has run out at least 

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Sep 2010, at 20:07, Steven  wrote:

> I love opening things that I know I can put back together easily (though I 
> think that's how I broke the floppy drive on my PowerBook 145b), but I use 
> this iMac as my main workhorse, and will probably do so for at least another 
> year, so I can't really risk anything going wrong. The most I have ever done 
> to a computer that I rely on daily is opening up the display housing on my 
> iBook G4 in order to put one of those transparencies to make the glowing 
> Apple logo look like the old rainbow logo (and that's just about the easiest 
> mod possible on an iBook G4). Besides, as far as I can tell the white plastic 
> iMacs were built just like iPods, and I mangled the case of my third 
> generation iPod pretty bad when I tried to replace the hard drive. Being the 
> technology nerd that I am, I have a 9" CRT television on my desk that relays 
> everything from my main TV, so I don't actually need the DVD drive for 
> playing DVDs (which is 90% of what I would use it for), so when I do need to 
> use the drive it isn't too much of a hassle to use the index card trick 
> (before I had my current TV setup, though, it would drive me crazy, so much 
> so that I bought a $20 DVD player from Target to play through my TV tuner in 
> order to avoid the constant eject problems).
> 
> Steven
> 
> 

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/24 08:11, Walter Sheluk wrote:

Excellent suggestion: could you please give the url for the download: i
can't find it at apple.
Tanks.


iTunes 9.2.1 DL:



'Downgrade' instructions:



Recreate iTunes Library file:



Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward. 
First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate the 
iTunes library which is simply a matter of importing the .xml file that 
you have moved to the desktop before launching iTunes 9.


Tina

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith

Sorry, so Santa rose is the code name? For the current iMacs? 

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-24 9:53 PM, Midnight rider wrote:
Now, Aqua has been twisted around with leopard and SL so much, i 
wouldn't even call it aqua any more. I might as well call it graphite.
As long as they keep those traffic lights up and running no matter what 
they call those lights.


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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-24 2:31 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:

I write my own OS 9 extensions.

such as ? and to do what ?

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-24 12:26 PM, Midnight rider wrote:
I was wondering if there is a patch for the OS 9 theme to make it look 
like leopard or at least jaguar. My Power Mac 6100 machine has my 
favorite startup chime of all time and it feels dated to have an OS 9 
desktop... 
I use Kaleidoscope ( it is somewhat dated )   albeit it does not have 
ready made themes for the two cats.  The themes it does have are good 
enough for me to get rid of that bland OS 9 appearance. However it does 
have a theme creater if you have the patience to work that program.


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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-24 12:19 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
I've been using FruitMenu, Xounds and WindowshadeX, since Jaguar days; 
I'll keep using them until Apple gets its head out of its butt and put 
the functionality back into the "Mac OS". 
The same here. Apple has simply allowed third party software developers 
to make a few bucks weather we like it or not.


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Re: Printing to PDF

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:52:47 -0400, N.Shani wrote:
> My issue is with print-to-PDF: there zero (0) selection options - 
> even when page set-up is configured, the print-to-PDF seems to 
> completely ignore it, and any output requested as smaller than letter 
> size (in appearance, say 6x9) will end-up as letter size.

That doesn't sound like Adobe at all now does it? ;-)

I may be wrong but I believe that to format PDFs it takes a full blown 
PDF creation app such as Acrobat Pro (not Reader) to control how a PDF 
displays. I've never created one from scratch so I don't even know if 
overall size is an option but they do all seem to be about the same 
size.

Would selecting the data you want to save and invoking the Services > 
TextEdit > New Window Containing Selection service work for you? Or the 
free text editor Bean.app also has a Paste Selection into Current 
Document service that might (?) give you more control.

Tina

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:20:29 -0600, Walter Sheluk wrote:
> Is there a haxie to get rid of the nightymare UI in iTunes 10?
> There was a "terminal" solution posted at MacWorld a couple of days 
> ago but that just made it a stark black and white UI.

There are some modified iTunes.rsrc files floating around that will 
breathe some life back into iTunes. You can do a google search for them 
if you like, or if you prefer I can send you a screenshot off-list of 
the one I installed and if you like it I can send you the iTunes.rsrc 
file and a how-to on installation (it's very simple).

Tina

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I love opening things that I know I can put back together easily (though I 
think that's how I broke the floppy drive on my PowerBook 145b), but I use this 
iMac as my main workhorse, and will probably do so for at least another year, 
so I can't really risk anything going wrong. The most I have ever done to a 
computer that I rely on daily is opening up the display housing on my iBook G4 
in order to put one of those transparencies to make the glowing Apple logo look 
like the old rainbow logo (and that's just about the easiest mod possible on an 
iBook G4). Besides, as far as I can tell the white plastic iMacs were built 
just like iPods, and I mangled the case of my third generation iPod pretty bad 
when I tried to replace the hard drive. Being the technology nerd that I am, I 
have a 9" CRT television on my desk that relays everything from my main TV, so 
I don't actually need the DVD drive for playing DVDs (which is 90% of what I 
would use it for), so when I do need to use the drive it isn't too much of a 
hassle to use the index card trick (before I had my current TV setup, though, 
it would drive me crazy, so much so that I bought a $20 DVD player from Target 
to play through my TV tuner in order to avoid the constant eject problems).

Steven


On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Jay Smith wrote:

> Do you not fancy opening it up and fixing this steven? I'd love too myself. 
> Though, you may not share my need to open things, lol
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
Right after I downloaded iTunes 10 I tried to replace the icon with the icon 
from iTunes 9 and it wouldn't work. I did some searching online and found an 
entire package of changes that brings back the horizontal 
close/minimize/maximize buttons, colored icons in the sidebar, original icon 
(it even shows up on the iTunes ID login screen and other places), and a few 
more UI changes. Now iTunes looks as good as iTunes 9 and has all the features 
of iTunes 10.

http://macthemes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16805795

Steven


On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote:

> Heres a handy hint:
> http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20100901223846748
> 
> Thanks,
> Po-en Tsai
> 
> - The first time Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is when they 
> start making vacuum cleaners

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
my friend has an i7 iMac, and they look about as good as those core 2 duo
imacs that came out before. Well anyways, go for it! It's a nice machine,
and it'll last you years.

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
Kevin,

This is the first generation Core 2 Duo iMac. I have the 17" model.
They are great machines. They are prone to display/video card
problems, which apparently has been silently acknowledged by Apple,
since mine broke last year and was repaired for free by them (that was
before I got it but the previous owner gave me the paperwork).

That said, it's anyway a great machine, it's at a great price, and
chances are it'll never give you a headache. So I'd say go for it.

Felix

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
Not necessarily, because the "Santa Rosa" iMacs with the glossy screens are
technically3 generations later.

G1: G3 All-in-one
G2: iMac bondi blue
G3: iMac slot loading
G4: iMac firewire
G5: iMac G4
G6: iMac G4 17"
G7: iMac G4 20" with USB 2.0
G8: iMac G5
G9: iMac with ambient light sensor
G10: iMac iSight
G11: iMac Core Duo
G12: iMac Core 2 duo (white)
G13: iMac Core 2 duo (Santa Rosa)
G14: iMac i3, i5, i7 Santa rosa.

I may or may not be correct here, but i think this is how it goes. Also, i
might be missing a few generations here.

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Po-en Tsai
On 25/09/2010, at 11:40 AM, Bill Chapman wrote:

> I used to include Classic with Tiger/Panther... but it was butt-ugly on my OS 
> X machines.
> 
> On 24/09/10 7:00 PM, Midnight rider wrote:
>> iTunes 10 works for me, but the thing that you guys call a "Nightmare UI" is 
>> the same way people felt about switching over to OS X on the days of classic 
>> for their UI.

Heres a handy hint:
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20100901223846748

Thanks,
Po-en Tsai

- The first time Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is when they start 
making vacuum cleaners




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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/24 17:00, Midnight rider wrote:

iTunes 10 works for me, but the thing that you guys call a "Nightmare
UI" is the same way people felt about switching over to OS X on the days
of classic for their UI.


I guess I'm the reverse. Prior to OS X I had never owned a computer 
because I didn't like Windows or OS 9. More than didn't like them, I 
thought they both were horrible, though if I had known about linux I 
might have gone that route. Then in 2001 when I saw OS X for the first 
time I knew it was time to get a computer. A Graphite 600 MHz G3 iMac to 
be specific, and the first time I saw the power button light pulse as it 
slept I knew I was hooked.


So thanks to Steve Jobs and NeXTSTEP I have an OS that fits my needs and 
is almost as visually appealing as a cabana boy on a Caribbean beach now 
that I've fixed iTunes 10.


Tina

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Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-24 7:58 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
I upgraded to iTunes 9.2.1. 
Excellent suggestion: could you please give the url for the download: i 
can't find it at apple.

Tanks.

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Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith
Do you not fancy opening it up and fixing this steven? I'd love too myself. 
Though, you may not share my need to open things, lol

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Sep 2010, at 01:36, Steven  wrote:

> I have this exact model (except mine only has 1gb of RAM), and it works 
> great. The only problem I have had with it is that the slot loading CD drive 
> became misaligned, causing the disc to jam against the inside of the case 
> unless I guide it out with an index card. Judging by the reactions of the 
> people at the Genius Bar, however, I don't think this is a very common 
> problem.
> 
> Steven
> 
> 
> 

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