Re: Which Mac group? The ALL MACS List!

[Jack Suggs]

>
> RE: I still don't know what people with Macs older than 2012 manage to do
> with them.
>
> I have a pair of G4 'Graphite' Power PCs, 733 mhz, made in 2001, that I
use for graphic design/page layout with QuarkXPress 4 and photo editing
with Photoshop 7. And a matching G3 Graphite iMac 600mhz, also from 2001;
it's jammed with MP3s.  I also have a pair of newer iMacs, one for the
world wide web, the other for recording music. Plus two G3 iBook
clamshells, one a Tangerine, the other a Blueberry. And I have others, but
these are the oldest.

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Re: Which Mac group? The ALL MACS List!

[Valter Psicof]

>Valter, you said "I have installed OSX 10.9 Mavericks, and most software
>has a version for it (you might have to look for it in some archives,
>though)."
>
>What I meant by my question is that I want to know WHICH archives you
>look in! 

Well, it depends :-)
E.g.: I find an interesting app, I go to the developer website, and it
says it's compatible with OSX 10.12 or newer.
But that's the latest version. Many times the website has a section
(called Downloads, Archive, Previous versions, whatever) with older
versions. You have to look for it, though (many time it's somehow "hidden"
away).

You might need to Google "APP NAME and OSX Mavericks" to find which
version is compatible with your OS.
Sometimes doing so lets you find the "Archive" section that you couldn't
find on the website.
Sometimes you find an Open Source place (like GitHub) where files aren't
organized in a neat, user-friendly way (and I mean "not-engineer-type"),
so you have to explore and try many folders.

>AFAIK it's not the Apple website Developers area, not MacIntosh Garden,
>not MacIntosh Repository, and not oldversion.com 
>either! 

Usually you can't find a single place where all softwares are stored,
simply because most of them are still copyrighted.
Hence you have to hunt for it. As usual, Google is your friend :-)

>Some people might be using software they originally downloaded years ago
>from the Apple Appstore, but it seems that you can install software
>you've never installed before. Where do you get it?

I find the Appstore not much "collaborative" in that way.
After all, Apple established it to get money, not helping old users... ;-)

>Recently, I've been looking at some vintage MacIntosh computers on eBay,
>as the type of Macs I never knew, but I think it would probably be a
>stupid idea to buy any. I used to own a Blueberry iMac (1999) and a
>MacPro "Quicksilver" (2000), but recently I've been looking at some
>68000-68040 based Macs.

Unless you are REALLY into vintage computing, and spending lots of time
tinkering with it, I would ignore any Mac pre-Intel.
With the Intel processors there really was a huge step forward; especially
if you plan to use OSX. With pre-Intel Macs, it's more archeology than
computing ;-D
(they are still usable, of course, but finding apps and solutions for them
is like digging for fossil bones)

>I think a good money saving tip is to get or make a keyboard and a mouse
>for a retro computer that you've heard was absolutely amazing, connect it
>to a computer which can run an emulator for that computer, then you can
>save a fortune!

Sounds like "archeology" to me, but if that's what makes you ticking,
enjoy yourself! :-D


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Re: Which Mac group? The ALL MACS List!

[Paul Londoner]

Valter, you said "I have installed OSX 10.9 Mavericks, and most software
has a version for it (you might have to look for it in some archives,
though)."

What I meant by my question is that I want to know WHICH archives you look
in! AFAIK it's not the Apple website Developers area, not MacIntosh Garden,
not MacIntosh Repository, and not oldversion.com either! Some people might
be using software they originally downloaded years ago from the Apple
Appstore, but it seems that you can install software you've never installed
before. Where do you get it?

Recently, I've been looking at some vintage MacIntosh computers on eBay, as
the type of Macs I never knew, but I think it would probably be a stupid
idea to buy any. I used to own a Blueberry iMac (1999) and a MacPro
"Quicksilver" (2000), but recently I've been looking at some 68000-68040
based Macs. I think a good money saving tip is to get or make a keyboard
and a mouse for a retro computer that you've heard was absolutely amazing,
connect it to a computer which can run an emulator for that computer, then
you can save a fortune!

On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 05:29, Valter Psicof  wrote:

> >I still don't know what people with Macs older than 2012 manage to do
> >with them. Would someone like to explain?
>
> I'm still using an Early 2009 24" iMac. It's going great (although
> upgraded with 8 GB Ram and 1 TB HD).
> I have installed OSX 10.9 Mavericks, and most software has a version for
> it (you might have to look for it in some archives, though).
>
> The only thing I'm not using it for anymore, it's gaming (I bought a PC
> for that).
> Everything else, work included, I'm doing on this Mac - even if it's now
> 12 years old :-)
> Adobe Creative Suite CS6, MS Office 2011, Firefox, Thunderbid, VLC,
> Calibre, etc., they all work flawlessly - if a bit slowly sometimes.
>
> Sure, if you want to run the latest software you need something newer...
> but most of the time, if I look around I can find a suitable software that
> still runs in OSX 10.9. And if it doesn't... usually I don't really need
> it.
>
>
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Re: Which Mac group? The ALL MACS List!

[R. A. Cantrell]

Thanks everybody for chipping in. Bruce had the solution which is TenFourFox.

On 5/18/21, Valter Psicof  wrote:
>>I still don't know what people with Macs older than 2012 manage to do
>>with them. Would someone like to explain?
>
> I'm still using an Early 2009 24" iMac. It's going great (although
> upgraded with 8 GB Ram and 1 TB HD).
> I have installed OSX 10.9 Mavericks, and most software has a version for
> it (you might have to look for it in some archives, though).
>
> The only thing I'm not using it for anymore, it's gaming (I bought a PC
> for that).
> Everything else, work included, I'm doing on this Mac - even if it's now
> 12 years old :-)
> Adobe Creative Suite CS6, MS Office 2011, Firefox, Thunderbid, VLC,
> Calibre, etc., they all work flawlessly - if a bit slowly sometimes.
>
> Sure, if you want to run the latest software you need something newer...
> but most of the time, if I look around I can find a suitable software that
> still runs in OSX 10.9. And if it doesn't... usually I don't really need
> it.
>
>
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