Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
Strait debian works better as they have a port already and Ubuntu will be a little bloated for that model. I have three also which were my kids which ran OS 9 when they were smaller. Instead of trying to force OS X on there I reused them in my basement data center. They make great little linux boxes and are about as speed as my little netbook. They are not robust enough to be a linux workstation for me but they get by. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Jesse Carroll wrote: > For Tray Loading iMacs, it might be better to go to Ubuntu 9.04 for > powerpc. > > All CRT iMacs have slow USB 1.1 ports, so some ideas here won't work as > they need > > USB2.0 > > I have an Early 2001 G3/600 SE Graphite running OS 10.4.11 > > 1GB Ram > > 80GB 7200 rpm HDD. > > It has run Ubuntu 9.04 fine, as has my 1999 PowerBook G3/333 Lombard, > > which has to have XpostFacto to run OS 10.4.11. > > UMMV > > J.C. > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield < > christopher1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me >> running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime >> soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of >> ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so >> the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free. >> >> I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I >> typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop >> running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram). >> >> As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in >> China also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but >> didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows >> laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet >> Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works, >> even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power. >> >> And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a >> 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked >> fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a >> group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com >> To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist >> > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
For Tray Loading iMacs, it might be better to go to Ubuntu 9.04 for powerpc. All CRT iMacs have slow USB 1.1 ports, so some ideas here won't work as they need USB2.0 I have an Early 2001 G3/600 SE Graphite running OS 10.4.11 1GB Ram 80GB 7200 rpm HDD. It has run Ubuntu 9.04 fine, as has my 1999 PowerBook G3/333 Lombard, which has to have XpostFacto to run OS 10.4.11. UMMV J.C. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield < christopher1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me > running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime > soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of > ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so > the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free. > > I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I > typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop > running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram). > > As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China > also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but > didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows > laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet > Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works, > even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power. > > And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a > 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked > fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free. I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram). As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works, even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power. And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
See below. On Jan 24, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Paul Brown wrote: > I've just bought a similar iMac, which is G3 Blueberry 350Mhz slot loading. I > found out it would need an adaptor to install an Airport card and that nearly > all sellers of these on eBay were in Hong Kong or elsewhere in China, so it > would take some time to arrive. There's also the option of a USB WiFi > adaptor, but again nearly all sellers were in Hong Kong, or elsewhere in > China. It wouldn't even recongise a USB 3G dongle modem. A good place for parts is the LEM Swap list. I was able to get the airport card and adapter there for a reasonable price. > I bought an Ethernet cable from a hardware store, after checking it was the > right type of Ethernet cable and connected to an Ethernet port on my WiFi > router. It currently has 192Mb of RAM and can be upgraded to 1Gb. How much > RAM should I have to run OS X without the big delays you mention? I have 3 of these old slot loading iMacs, one with 1GB Ram, 768MB Ram, and 512MB Ram. All are currently running OS 10.4. None of them are "zippy". The 512MB one really bogs down when more than one app is open at a time. The 768MB and 1GB do seem to be able to handle multiple open apps at the same time, but again be prepared to be patient. > If I upgrade the RAM how to I make sure both RAM cards are recognised? My two > current RAM cards are 64Mb and 128Mb and one of them has slower RAM than the > other, but I read somewhere to get two RAM cards of the same type to make > sure they both work. I don't think any of my Ram cards are matched pairs and I don't have any problems. I think as long as the are PC100 or PC133 cards you should be ok, but I'll let others address that more specifically. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I've just bought a similar iMac, which is G3 Blueberry 350Mhz slot loading. I found out it would need an adaptor to install an Airport card and that nearly all sellers of these on eBay were in Hong Kong or elsewhere in China, so it would take some time to arrive. There's also the option of a USB WiFi adaptor, but again nearly all sellers were in Hong Kong, or elsewhere in China. It wouldn't even recongise a USB 3G dongle modem. I bought an Ethernet cable from a hardware store, after checking it was the right type of Ethernet cable and connected to an Ethernet port on my WiFi router. It currently has 192Mb of RAM and can be upgraded to 1Gb. How much RAM should I have to run OS X without the big delays you mention? If I upgrade the RAM how to I make sure both RAM cards are recognised? My two current RAM cards are 64Mb and 128Mb and one of them has slower RAM than the other, but I read somewhere to get two RAM cards of the same type to make sure they both work. On 11 January 2012 03:41, Peter Haller wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. > If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of > the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. > > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 15, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: >> >>> Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of >>> the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. >> >> Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird >> issues that could cause this in 8.6 > > On a machine with 256 MB of RAM? It's just not enough for OS X. Expect to > spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled between RAM and > disk. I'd try 9.2.2 first. It would be sufficient to find out if the ethernet port works or not. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6 On a machine with 256 MB of RAM? It's just not enough for OS X. Expect to spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled between RAM and disk. I'd try 9.2.2 first. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: > Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of > the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6 -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I used to use mine with dial-up using earthlink, and then with Cox cable - mine played a lot of games it wasn't "supposed too" - I was told the extra RAM made up for a lot - Dennis San Diego On Jan 10, 2012, at 07:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
