Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On 2010/12/01 15:22, Joshua Juran so eloquently wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/10 18:42, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger? If Apple still provided security updates to Tiger I'd go back in a heartbeat. But they don't. And soon enough they'll drop support for Leopard as well. What then? That's when I will go back to Tiger! ;-) No I'll stick with Leo because it should be more secure than Tiger having been supported more recently. It's not like we are going to have much of a choice… Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15" HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/10 18:42, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger? If Apple still provided security updates to Tiger I'd go back in a heartbeat. But they don't. And soon enough they'll drop support for Leopard as well. What then? Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
It would be alot simpler to install the programs you want one one account and move all the info from both accounts into one folder then placing the documents in the appropriate folders. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote: > > > On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote: > >>> Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually > comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the > other as you go through the files by hand. > > Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ? > > Users yes, Library, some things (Application Support folders, prefs and > some plugins) , System NO. IN general, unless you really know what you're > doing do NOT mess with the System folder. > > Do NOT try Migration Assistant; it does not merge user accounts, which is > what you're doing. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > > "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD > > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote: > On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote: >>> Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes >>> down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other >>> as you go through the files by hand. > Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ? Users yes, Library, some things (Application Support folders, prefs and some plugins) , System NO. IN general, unless you really know what you're doing do NOT mess with the System folder. Do NOT try Migration Assistant; it does not merge user accounts, which is what you're doing. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On 2010/11/10 18:42, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger? If Apple still provided security updates to Tiger I'd go back in a heartbeat. But they don't. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15" HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
RE: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On Thursday, November 11, 2010, at 03:08 AM, imaclist+nore...@googlegroups.com wrote: Topic: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11 Walter Sheluk Nov 09 10:11AM -0700 ^ On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote: >> Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you go through the files by hand. Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ? You anticipated my next question very nicely, Walter. Mail can at least be exported/imported more or less successfully (although it doesn't really give you an exact replica of the source tree structure, I believe). What about merging iTunes and bringing over users? Migration Assistant is/was supposed to know how to do that, but I'm not sure if it has the selectivity to allow the amount of picking and choosing I would like. Finally, what about users with the same name? I know that since Mac OS uses the Unix scheme of totally unique ID generation for each user instance, it would seem that I shouldn't have any users on the target with the same names as those on the source system. Also, I would like to avoid migrating applications en masse and would rather do that manually. And thanks again, everyone, for all the excellent advice. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
I suggest trying leopard on it, that's what I did with my 700Mhz eMac. Performance is good. Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: > On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote: > >> Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes >>> down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other >>> as you go through the files by hand. >>> >> Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ? > > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote: Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you go through the files by hand. Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On Nov 9, 11:42 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down > to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you > go through the files by hand. Time consuming and boring, but the safest thing to do. F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
Ramon, You could attempt (after backing up everything) an Upgrade install, and see how it works. You should have all of your current apps and settings, and a brand spanking new OS. Of course, jumping from Jaguar to Tiger is a big leap, so it's hard to predict how well that will go. I upgraded from 10.3 to 10.4 without missing a beat, but YMMV. IMHO, the safest course of action is the long and winding road: either going with a clean 10.4 install and then reinstalling all apps that need reinstalling and such, or (a little quicker solution) cloning your 10.4.11 install with CCC and then reinstalling whatever needs to be reinstalled. Files are easy; you just move them from point A to point B. A CCC warning: make sure you are using versions compatible with your OS. Point in case, I once cloned a Panther install with a later version only compatible with Tiger and Leopard, and ended up with an unbootable computer. To clone your Jaguar drive for backup purposes, look for a version that's Jaguar compatible. HTH, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Ramon Tate wrote: > Hi, all, > I have a somewhat esoteric problem and need some advice on how to do handle > it. I'm still using a 1GHz/1Gbyte PPC eMac running Mac OS 10.2.8 for much of > my work and now need to move to 10.4.11 to accommodate a new application that > requires it. > > The problem arises thus: some time ago I bought and installed 10.4 on an > external Firewire drive and have been booting and using it for the occasional > applications that required 10.4. Now I need to merge the large amount of > 10.2.8 data - and applications - that I've accumulated with the 10.4.11 > system into a single system. If the bulk of your data is on the 10.2.8 system, do an 'Archive and Install' of 10.4 on the internal drive. (this is reachable via the 'Option' menu in the 10.4 installer after you've selected the volume to install it on.) this will deal with all the email, safari bookmarks, etc etc,as well as the differing versions of the OS X apps between 10.2 and 10.4. Then update the new 10.4 system before you do any merging of data bwteen the two 10.4 systems (internal and external) Then, once the new system is up and running, you can use Carbon Copy Cloner and move JUST the user files and applications from the external drive. You'll need to do a fair bit of setup with CCC, though, you need to determine if, for example the user prefs files on the external drive are the ones you want to keep, or not, it may even be an issue of copying stuff manually. Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you go through the files by hand. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11
Hi, all, I have a somewhat esoteric problem and need some advice on how to do handle it. I'm still using a 1GHz/1Gbyte PPC eMac running Mac OS 10.2.8 for much of my work and now need to move to 10.4.11 to accommodate a new application that requires it. The problem arises thus: some time ago I bought and installed 10.4 on an external Firewire drive and have been booting and using it for the occasional applications that required 10.4. Now I need to merge the large amount of 10.2.8 data - and applications - that I've accumulated with the 10.4.11 system into a single system. Moving the data (mostly in Documents) is relatively straightforward, and Mail seems to know how to export/import mailboxes in a usable way also. What I would like to avoid is reinstalling lots of applications and their associated files (e.g. iTunes and iPhoto). The tools at hand: Carbon Copy Cloner, Migration Assistant (10.4 version), and of course Finder. Other resources: several external Firewire volumes that can be used as "scratch" volumes for building & copying systems to and from. Both systems (10.2.8 and 10.4.11) are/will be completely backed up to respective backup volumes before any potentially dangerous merge operations (three cheers for CCC!). So, experts, how would you proceed? (and many thanks in advance for your consideration of my problem) -- Viejo Ramon 1st Mac: Mac II Current Macs: Quadra 630, eMac (3,3), Mac Mini PPC 1.5GHz, MacBook Pro Intel 2.4 GHz CoreDuo (mid-2008) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
