Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[Russell Courtenay]

I guess I was misinformed! Teaches me to listen to those all-knowing Low End 
Mac guys!

Russell Courtenay

Sent from my old iMac

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Dennis Swaney  wrote:
> 
> It doesn't. 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:06:00 AM UTC-7, Russell Courtenay wrote:
> I guess I missed that iOS 10.3 requires Sierra, good thing I haven't upgraded 
> my iPhone 6 yet! Unless I do some upgrades on my 2008 iMac I am NOT doing 
> Sierra.
> 
> Russell Courtenay
> July is national what month?
> tinyurl.com/julybeans 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:06 PM, mike.ans...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys.  Life has been busy.
>> I was able to resurrect my iMac.  I found a way to eject the stuck Snow 
>> Leopard disc and put in an install disc that I found in the original Apple 
>> Care package that came with the computer and boot from it holding down the C 
>> key.  From there I was able to clean up some of the mess with disk 
>> utilities.  I have been back up and running for about a week.
>> 
>> Why do I want to run Sierra on this old computer?  I need to have Sierra 
>> running to connect my iPhone 5S to the iMac so I can load my music and other 
>> stuff on the phone using iTunes.  My iphone is running on ios 10.3 and it 
>> will not connect with the iMac running 10.7.5.  I don't have a good enough 
>> reason to spend $1500+ on a new computer.  This old iMac runs great on 10.7. 
>>  It does a good job of making videos and burning them, running my music 
>> editing and recording software, and just about anything else I need done.   
>> No point in buying a new machine.
>> 
>> But I do still want to put Sierra on a partition on an external drive so I 
>> can link up my phone.  I guess I must have done something wrong on the 
>> previous attempt.  I am going to give it another try tomorrow.  I'll read 
>> through the literature on using the install patch again and hopefully I 
>> won't screw it up this time.
>> 
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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[Dennis Swaney]

It doesn't. 

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:06:00 AM UTC-7, Russell Courtenay wrote:
>
> I guess I missed that iOS 10.3 requires Sierra, good thing I haven't 
> upgraded my iPhone 6 yet! Unless I do some upgrades on my 2008 iMac I am 
> NOT doing Sierra.
>
> Russell Courtenay
> July is national *what* month?
> tinyurl.com/julybeans
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:06 PM, mike.ans...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
>
> Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys.  Life has been busy.
>>
> I was able to resurrect my iMac.  I found a way to eject the stuck Snow 
> Leopard disc and put in an install disc that I found in the original Apple 
> Care package that came with the computer and boot from it holding down the 
> C key.  From there I was able to clean up some of the mess with disk 
> utilities.  I have been back up and running for about a week.
>
> Why do I want to run Sierra on this old computer?  I need to have Sierra 
> running to connect my iPhone 5S to the iMac so I can load my music and 
> other stuff on the phone using iTunes.  My iphone is running on ios 10.3 
> and it will not connect with the iMac running 10.7.5.  I don't have a good 
> enough reason to spend $1500+ on a new computer.  This old iMac runs great 
> on 10.7.  It does a good job of making videos and burning them, running my 
> music editing and recording software, and just about anything else I need 
> done.   No point in buying a new machine.
>
> But I do still want to put Sierra on a partition on an external drive so I 
> can link up my phone.  I guess I must have done something wrong on the 
> previous attempt.  I am going to give it another try tomorrow.  I'll read 
> through the literature on using the install patch again and hopefully I 
> won't screw it up this time.
>
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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[Dennis Swaney]

Mike, I'm running El Capitan on my mid-2011 iMac and iOS 10.3.3 on my 
iDevices. You even MIGHT be able to get by with Yosemite.

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:25:33 PM UTC-7, mike.ans...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys.  Life has been busy.
>>
> I was able to resurrect my iMac.  I found a way to eject the stuck Snow 
> Leopard disc and put in an install disc that I found in the original Apple 
> Care package that came with the computer and boot from it holding down the 
> C key.  From there I was able to clean up some of the mess with disk 
> utilities.  I have been back up and running for about a week.
>
> Why do I want to run Sierra on this old computer?  I need to have Sierra 
> running to connect my iPhone 5S to the iMac so I can load my music and 
> other stuff on the phone using iTunes.  My iphone is running on ios 10.3 
> and it will not connect with the iMac running 10.7.5.  I don't have a good 
> enough reason to spend $1500+ on a new computer.  This old iMac runs great 
> on 10.7.  It does a good job of making videos and burning them, running my 
> music editing and recording software, and just about anything else I need 
> done.   No point in buying a new machine.
>
> But I do still want to put Sierra on a partition on an external drive so I 
> can link up my phone.  I guess I must have done something wrong on the 
> previous attempt.  I am going to give it another try tomorrow.  I'll read 
> through the literature on using the install patch again and hopefully I 
> won't screw it up this time.
>

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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[mike . ansberry1955]

After further study it appears that I have to be running at least El 
Capitan, which I think is OS10.11.  Now I just need a way to download 
this.  With my internet way out in the country it will take 10 hours.

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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[Russell Courtenay]

I guess I missed that iOS 10.3 requires Sierra, good thing I haven't upgraded 
my iPhone 6 yet! Unless I do some upgrades on my 2008 iMac I am NOT doing 
Sierra.

Russell Courtenay
July is national what month?
tinyurl.com/julybeans

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:06 PM, mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
>> Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys.  Life has been busy.
> I was able to resurrect my iMac.  I found a way to eject the stuck Snow 
> Leopard disc and put in an install disc that I found in the original Apple 
> Care package that came with the computer and boot from it holding down the C 
> key.  From there I was able to clean up some of the mess with disk utilities. 
>  I have been back up and running for about a week.
> 
> Why do I want to run Sierra on this old computer?  I need to have Sierra 
> running to connect my iPhone 5S to the iMac so I can load my music and other 
> stuff on the phone using iTunes.  My iphone is running on ios 10.3 and it 
> will not connect with the iMac running 10.7.5.  I don't have a good enough 
> reason to spend $1500+ on a new computer.  This old iMac runs great on 10.7.  
> It does a good job of making videos and burning them, running my music 
> editing and recording software, and just about anything else I need done.   
> No point in buying a new machine.
> 
> But I do still want to put Sierra on a partition on an external drive so I 
> can link up my phone.  I guess I must have done something wrong on the 
> previous attempt.  I am going to give it another try tomorrow.  I'll read 
> through the literature on using the install patch again and hopefully I won't 
> screw it up this time.
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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[mike . ansberry1955]

> Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys.  Life has been busy.
>
I was able to resurrect my iMac.  I found a way to eject the stuck Snow 
Leopard disc and put in an install disc that I found in the original Apple 
Care package that came with the computer and boot from it holding down the 
C key.  From there I was able to clean up some of the mess with disk 
utilities.  I have been back up and running for about a week.

Why do I want to run Sierra on this old computer?  I need to have Sierra 
running to connect my iPhone 5S to the iMac so I can load my music and 
other stuff on the phone using iTunes.  My iphone is running on ios 10.3 
and it will not connect with the iMac running 10.7.5.  I don't have a good 
enough reason to spend $1500+ on a new computer.  This old iMac runs great 
on 10.7.  It does a good job of making videos and burning them, running my 
music editing and recording software, and just about anything else I need 
done.   No point in buying a new machine.

But I do still want to put Sierra on a partition on an external drive so I 
can link up my phone.  I guess I must have done something wrong on the 
previous attempt.  I am going to give it another try tomorrow.  I'll read 
through the literature on using the install patch again and hopefully I 
won't screw it up this time.

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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:49 AM, GMail Valter Psicof 
mailto:valter.psi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Il giorno 17/07/17 20:28, 
"mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com" ha scritto:

I tried to use the patcher to install Sierra on my early 2009 iMac running
10.7.5.
I  know it's not my business, but... why "forcing" an OS over a machine
that's *eight* years older than the OS? I think that OS wouldn't run well
anyway.

Because that iMac was just under the cutoff for that version of the OS (late 
2009 imacs made the cut, and there really isn’t much difference hardware-wise 
between the two). It runs Yosemite just fine; so it’s not a huge stretch to 
try, and this has been widely published:


the tool itself:



Also detailed instructions are there, such as what to do if you get a “NO” 
symbol after installing…

Follow the directions carefully, folks, when handling digital power tools!


It won't boot using any of the short cuts to make it select another drive.

This is more troubling, because even if the internal disk is fubar this should 
still work.

All I can suggest is try resetting the PRAM (boot while holding down 
command-option-P-R for a couple boot chime cycles) and seeing if that works to 
allow booting from an external volume.


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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

[GMail Valter Psicof]

Il giorno 17/07/17 20:28, "mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com" ha scritto:

> I tried to use the patcher to install Sierra on my early 2009 iMac running
> 10.7.5. 
I  know it's not my business, but... why "forcing" an OS over a machine
that's *eight* years older than the OS? I think that OS wouldn't run well
anyway.

> I tried to put it on a partition that used to house BootCamp after
> I reformatted it to an acceptable format.  The machine crashed.  Now all I
> get is a gray "no" sign.
The Sierra installation probably messed up the partition scheme, so now the
booting firmware cannot find the "good" OSX (10.7.5) - even if it's still
there.

> It won't boot using any of the short cuts to make it select another drive.
I assume you did a backup on an external drive.
Did you try to boot from that external drive, holding the Option (Alt) key
at boot?
If you can, then you can try using Disk Utility to fix your internal HD; you
might need to initialize that HD, though (depending on how messed up the
partition scheme is).

But you better wait for more informed opinions about this matter.


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