Re: Using MS Windows
My thanks to all for the very valuable insights and suggestions. The fundamental problem resolved itself with no action required on my part, partly because I had misunderstood the original directive and partly because I awoke to the fact that my wife's work computer is only five miles away and fully accessible to me for the one thing I (thought I) had to do immediately. This list is the greatest! Again, thank you all, and an extra yodel to Dan Knight for doing it so well and for so long. Bill On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:10:51 PM UTC-4, Greg Bennett wrote: > > Personally, I wouldn't be spending any of my own money if these are > tasks required as part of my employment. > > -- > [Greg Bennett] > -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer > -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear > http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ > http://www.macshack.us/ > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Personally, I wouldn't be spending any of my own money if these are tasks required as part of my employment. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
your neglecting one thing. does the OP even have a legal copy of windows? kinda negates the "Virtual Box/VM" deal. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:03 AM, D. Fabel wrote: > > > Missing from the list (Parallels, Fusion, BootCamp) was a decent FREE > option: Virtual Box. I've moved to it since my employer quit updating > Parallels some time back. It is put out by Oracle. > > I'll second this suggestion. > > VirtualBox is an excellent way of managing Windows on a Mac…it's our > institutional go-to solution because many people have needs for windows > based progams, and we have a few University wide systems that require > Windows to run certain web applications. (And yes, I know just how stupid > that sounds!) > > I use it all the time. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
All of that is way too much fuss. He needs to run a windows program and run it NOW. Hobbyists and wage/salary earners have different goal objectives. Getting productive ASAP at the least cost ? Getting hands on a Windows box since no Mac Program is being provided by his new boss is the most practical headache prevetion that can be done. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:41 PM, NODEraser wrote: > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM, GMail Valter Psicof > wrote: > > Il giorno 10/07/13 04.54, "NODEraser" ha scritto: > > > >> depending on what you need Windows for, you could use Bootcamp or > >> Parallels/Fusion. Bootcamp creates a separate partition for Windows, > >> and you can "boot" into it natively, just like you would on a PC > > > > Yes, but the OP should know that, in order to install Bootcamp, the Mac > > hard drive needs to be initialized anew (and with a single partition > only; > > it will be partitioned in two by the Bootcamp installer). > > > > I discovered this AFTER I already partitioned my iMac HD, and installed > all > > the software and data. :-((( > > (thus, not wanting to backup, erase and restore everything, I postponed > the > > Bootcamp thing, until I can find a way to install it on my already > > exisisting dedicated partition) > > > > Let's see if I get this straight... You tried to partition the drive > yourself? Bootcamp will handle this for you; you can add, delete or > modify the bootcamp partition using the utility, and it will not > affect the rest of your data. > > -- > [Greg Bennett] > -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer > -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear > http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ > http://www.macshack.us/ > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Depending on the professional need the whole ownership and DRM or other rights management issues could crop up. Another aspect of making wages or salary from s cobbled together system happily ignored by nonprofessional users. But in the business world these things can cause problems. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Bob Fleischer wrote: > According to Microsoft, you need to license Windows even to use it on a VM. > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: "D. Fabel" ** > Sent: Jul 10, 2013 1:03 PM > To: imaclist@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Using MS Windows > > Missing from the list (Parallels, Fusion, BootCamp) was a decent > FREE option: Virtual Box. I've moved to it since my employer quit updating > Parallels some time back. It is put out by Oracle. > > * > Doug > Portland, OR > > * > > On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:54 PM, NODEraser wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Spencer wrote: > > Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things > I > > have to do for them that require using Windows. ...This is completely new > territory for > > me, ...Basic, meaning cheap, is fine with me. > > > > ...you could use Bootcamp or Parallels/Fusion. > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > ** > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Bootcamp (was: Using MS Windows)
Il giorno 11/07/13 04.13, "NODEraser" ha scritto: > I've never been a partitioner... Don't really understand the logic > behind it, unless you need different formats for some reason. This "horse" has been beaten to death... and there's still people loving partitions, and other who do not. :-) Let's just say I like having my stuff well organized, thus having them in separate partitions helps that: - I know where particular stuff resides - It makes it for faster searches - It makes it for faster backups - When directory corruption happens, it's just on one partition, and it's easier to repair - Having a partition with another install of OSX, allows me to boot from there and makes for easier HD maintenance / troubleshoot I'm perfectly aware this won't work for everybody; it just suits my way of thinking. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Bootcamp (was: Using MS Windows)
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:33 AM, GMail Valter Psicof wrote: > > When I bought the iMac I'm using right now, I didn't know about Bootcamp > being "picky". > Hence I did what I usually do, I partitioned its HD into 6 partitions > (included one for Bootcamp itself) and copied/installed all my data and > apps. > Only AFTER this, I discovered Bootcamp wants a HD with just one partition; > thus, to comply with that I would need to reformat my HD. > I've never been a partitioner... Don't really understand the logic behind it, unless you need different formats for some reason. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
According to Microsoft, you need to license Windows even to use it on a VM.Bob-Original Message- From: "D. Fabel" Sent: Jul 10, 2013 1:03 PM To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using MS Windows Missing from the list (Parallels, Fusion, BootCamp) was a decent FREE option: Virtual Box. I've moved to it since my employer quit updating Parallels some time back. It is put out by Oracle. DougPortland, OR On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:54 PM, NODEraser wrote:On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Spencer <wspen...@jhu.edu> wrote:Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things Ihave to do for them that require using Windows. ...This is completely new territory forme, ...Basic, meaning cheap, is fine with meyou could use Bootcamp or Parallels/Fusion. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:03 AM, D. Fabel wrote: > Missing from the list (Parallels, Fusion, BootCamp) was a decent FREE option: > Virtual Box. I've moved to it since my employer quit updating Parallels some > time back. It is put out by Oracle. I'll second this suggestion. VirtualBox is an excellent way of managing Windows on a Mac…it's our institutional go-to solution because many people have needs for windows based progams, and we have a few University wide systems that require Windows to run certain web applications. (And yes, I know just how stupid that sounds!) I use it all the time. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Missing from the list (Parallels, Fusion, BootCamp) was a decent FREE option: Virtual Box. I've moved to it since my employer quit updating Parallels some time back. It is put out by Oracle. Doug Portland, OR On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:54 PM, NODEraser wrote: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Spencer wrote: >> Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things I >> have to do for them that require using Windows. ...This is completely new >> territory for >> me, ...Basic, meaning cheap, is fine with me. >> > > ...you could use Bootcamp or Parallels/Fusion. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Bootcamp (was: Using MS Windows)
Il giorno 10/07/13 05.41, "NODEraser" ha scritto: > Let's see if I get this straight... You tried to partition the drive > yourself? I did not try... I did. :-) I have been partitioning my HDs since my Beige PowerMac G3. When I bought the iMac I'm using right now, I didn't know about Bootcamp being "picky". Hence I did what I usually do, I partitioned its HD into 6 partitions (included one for Bootcamp itself) and copied/installed all my data and apps. Only AFTER this, I discovered Bootcamp wants a HD with just one partition; thus, to comply with that I would need to reformat my HD. > Bootcamp will handle this for you; you can add, delete or > modify the bootcamp partition using the utility, and it will not > affect the rest of your data. Yes but, as far as I understood, ONLY if my data reside in just the only ONE partition. What I thought I'd do (and what would have been much user-friendly), would be telling Bootcamp "Would you kindly* install on the partition I tell you to use?". Alas, that's not the way it works (and, being free, one cannot even complain. ;-) If you know differently, please let me know. * 10 bonus points for who recognize this quote. :-D -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM, GMail Valter Psicof wrote: > Il giorno 10/07/13 04.54, "NODEraser" ha scritto: > >> depending on what you need Windows for, you could use Bootcamp or >> Parallels/Fusion. Bootcamp creates a separate partition for Windows, >> and you can "boot" into it natively, just like you would on a PC > > Yes, but the OP should know that, in order to install Bootcamp, the Mac > hard drive needs to be initialized anew (and with a single partition only; > it will be partitioned in two by the Bootcamp installer). > > I discovered this AFTER I already partitioned my iMac HD, and installed all > the software and data. :-((( > (thus, not wanting to backup, erase and restore everything, I postponed the > Bootcamp thing, until I can find a way to install it on my already > exisisting dedicated partition) > Let's see if I get this straight... You tried to partition the drive yourself? Bootcamp will handle this for you; you can add, delete or modify the bootcamp partition using the utility, and it will not affect the rest of your data. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Il giorno 10/07/13 04.54, "NODEraser" ha scritto: > depending on what you need Windows for, you could use Bootcamp or > Parallels/Fusion. Bootcamp creates a separate partition for Windows, > and you can "boot" into it natively, just like you would on a PC Yes, but the OP should know that, in order to install Bootcamp, the Mac hard drive needs to be initialized anew (and with a single partition only; it will be partitioned in two by the Bootcamp installer). I discovered this AFTER I already partitioned my iMac HD, and installed all the software and data. :-((( (thus, not wanting to backup, erase and restore everything, I postponed the Bootcamp thing, until I can find a way to install it on my already exisisting dedicated partition) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Spencer wrote: > Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things I > have to do for them that require using Windows. Since I do not have a work > computer yet I seem to be in the unhappy position of having to install > Windows on the 1.83 iMac listed below. This is completely new territory for > me, so could someone please direct me to a good source of information on > what version of Windows I need to obtain, and basically everything I need to > know about dealing with this unfortunate development. Basic, meaning cheap, > is fine with me. > I'm not sure what kind of experiences the others have had, but depending on what you need Windows for, you could use Bootcamp or Parallels/Fusion. Bootcamp creates a separate partition for Windows, and you can "boot" into it natively, just like you would on a PC or OS X. Parallels or Fusion will allow you to start up Windows in a virtual machine inside OS X, which is handy if you need to use applications from both operating systems simultaneously, or would prefer to use Windows only when you have to. While you can use a bootcamp partition to run Parallels/Fusion, I would recommend that you not do so, as it will be much slower with your hard drive thrashing between two partitions. Using a virtual machine file is a much faster way to go, and is also variable in size with the amount of virtualized storage being used, so you're not locking away a good portion of your hard drive like you would by making a separate partition. I have done the Bootcamp route, and VMWare Fusion using both a bootcamp partition, and a virtual machine file. I don't have any experience with Parallels, so you'll have to find info on that from others. I don't think I would be spending a penny of my own money, if your job requires you to do things with Windows; doesn't your organization have an IT team? Light a fire under them! -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Used Pentium 4s might be a bit too slow, however depending on if you want to put money into it a used Thinkpad T60(\61), T400(401) or a Latitude E6400\6500 can be picked up for $100-$200 here with Windows 7 and such already on it, and (sorry for this) the E6400\T400 have a faster processor than the 1.83 GHz iMac. When you do get a proper work computer you can just sell off anything like these for right around what you paid, possibly a bit more. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
depending on the needs go for an IBM Thinkcentre 8125 ( http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/ibm-thinkcentre-a50-8419/4505-3118_7-30422511.html) or the Lenovo version of that model i tend to see em on ebay for 35$+ On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM, GMail Valter Psicof wrote: > Il giorno 09/07/13 02.49, "W.Adrian D'Alessio" ha scritto: > > > You would be much further ahead to go to Walmart and buy a cheap Windows > > machine. > > Agreed. > > If you're on tight budget, you could even look for an used PC, they usually > sell away for peanuts. Some PC store have them for sale (left by people who > bought newer ones). > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
If they are making you buy the application as well you should be looking for another job. They are not looking for a worker they are looking for a patsy. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM, GMail Valter Psicof wrote: > Il giorno 09/07/13 02.49, "W.Adrian D'Alessio" ha scritto: > > > You would be much further ahead to go to Walmart and buy a cheap Windows > > machine. > > Agreed. > > If you're on tight budget, you could even look for an used PC, they usually > sell away for peanuts. Some PC store have them for sale (left by people who > bought newer ones). > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
Il giorno 09/07/13 02.49, "W.Adrian D'Alessio" ha scritto: > You would be much further ahead to go to Walmart and buy a cheap Windows > machine. Agreed. If you're on tight budget, you could even look for an used PC, they usually sell away for peanuts. Some PC store have them for sale (left by people who bought newer ones). -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
I agree. Buy a cheap PC. Don't pollute your iMac. Just don't get an HP whatever you do. Sent from my iPod > You would be much further ahead to go to Walmart and buy a cheap Windows > machine. > > tell me in two weeks if I am right or wrong. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using MS Windows
You would be much further ahead to go to Walmart and buy a cheap Windows machine. tell me in two weeks if I am right or wrong. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:08 PM, William Spencer wrote: > Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things > I have to do for them that require using Windows. Since I do not have a > work computer yet I seem to be in the unhappy position of having to install > Windows on the 1.83 iMac listed below. This is completely new territory for > me, so could someone please direct me to a good source of information on > what version of Windows I need to obtain, and basically everything I need > to know about dealing with this unfortunate development. Basic, meaning > cheap, is fine with me. > > As always, my thanks in advance! > > > *** > > > Bill Spencer in Maryland > > IMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 ghz/2 g RAM/Mountain Lion > IMac Core 2 Duo 1.83 ghz/2 g RAM/Lion [10.7.5] > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Using MS Windows
Hi there: Today is my first day with my new employer, and there are things I have to do for them that require using Windows. Since I do not have a work computer yet I seem to be in the unhappy position of having to install Windows on the 1.83 iMac listed below. This is completely new territory for me, so could someone please direct me to a good source of information on what version of Windows I need to obtain, and basically everything I need to know about dealing with this unfortunate development. Basic, meaning cheap, is fine with me. As always, my thanks in advance! *** Bill Spencer in Maryland IMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 ghz/2 g RAM/Mountain Lion IMac Core 2 Duo 1.83 ghz/2 g RAM/Lion [10.7.5] -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
