Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[ftf]

On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:43 PM, kelly logsdon wrote:


how would I "upgrade the ram to at least 2GB"


The following Apple Support document details how to upgrade RAM, with  
clear illustrations, for numerous iMac models:




The procedure is also described in the User Guide of your specific  
model.


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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Brian Christmas]

On 02/02/2012, at 9:49 AM, kelly logsdon wrote:

I looked at the link you sent, but it says there are two slots in the bottom of 
my computer, where would those be? I have nothing but a vent grid at the bottom 
of the monitor. What do the slots look like? Thank you again for all of your 
help and kindness. -Kelly
 
If you always do, what you have always done, you don't get to complain about 
the results you always get. Change is the 'wings' you give yourself.


G'day Kelly.

1. The memory slots are at the centre bottom of the iMac, behind what looks 
like a ventilation grid. You have to remove the Phillips head screws to remove 
the cover.  Buy and insert a 2 GB module, along with one of your existing 512 
MB modules. Try watching this video  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD2yMTzh3gk&feature=player_embedded#!


2. I would backup your existing system before upgrading to Snow Leopard. 
Occasionally upgrades fail, and you'll lose everything because the only way to 
recover is to reformat the hard drive and do a clean install. Go straight to 
Snow Leopard, not Leopard. Purchase Snow Leopard in boxed format from the 
previous link I sent.


3. Once Snow Leopard is installed, you might want to update to Lion. I find 
Lion very nice to use, but still with a few bugs. Update 10.7.3 when it comes 
out should nail down most of the remaining small bugs. Lion is upgraded to over 
the internet from apple.

http://www.apple.com/support/lion/installrecovery/

When you install Snow Leopard and update it to 10.6.8, an App Store is 
installed in your Dock. This is used to purchase and update to Lion via the 
internet. You really need a fairly fast internet link for this, as it's about a 
1 GB download.

Regards

Santa

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[kelly logsdon]

How would I go about "update to Leopard" and how would I "upgrade the ram to at 
least 2GB", and how do I get "10.7 Lion"?  Thank you for your time. -Kelly
 
If you always do, what you have always done, you don't get to complain about 
the results you always get. Change is the 'wings' you give yourself.


>
> From: Jonas Ulrich 
>To: imaclist@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:28 AM
>Subject: Re: upgrade from tiger to???
> 
>
>I would be willing to bet that the problem is viewing video on the web. Thats 
>because Tiger is too old now, and doesn't support the latest Flash Player. You 
>could safely update to Leopard without upgrading the ram, but you would soon 
>need to upgrade that as well, because Leopard is on it's way out.
>
>I would definitely upgrade the ram to at least 2GB, and update the OS to the 
>newest, 10.7 Lion.
>
>You've got a great computer there, just an old OS.
>
>-Jonas
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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Brian Christmas]

On 01/02/2012, at 5:54 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less 
useful to an average user.

And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work.

-Jonas



Kelly, this might help  you understand about the memory limitations of your 
iMac.

Whilst it can accept up to 4GB ram, the recommended amount is 3 GB, and you 
could simply pull one 512MB stick and insert a 2GB module for 2 1/2 GB

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/faq_cd/imac-intel-how-to-upgrade-memory.html


Regards

Santa



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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Brian Christmas]

On 01/02/2012, at 5:54 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less 
useful to an average user.

And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work.

-Jonas



G'day Kelly

As I see it, you need three things.

1. a backup system

2. More memory

3. An updated OS, with perian, flip4mac, & latest Flash driver.


Addressing 1.  If you can afford it, I would buy one of these…

http://www.newertech.com/products/ministack.php

Unfortunately the older model seems to have been discontinued, and the new one 
not yet released. The benefit of them is they are quietly fan cooled (heating 
can cause a problem in many external cases, as I've found to my detriment), and 
they automatically turn on and off when your Mac does. Use the Firewire 400 
connection. If you shop around you might get an older case, preferably fit it 
with at least a hard disk as large as your iMac drive, or larger. If you want 
to upgrade to Lion in the future, and use Time Machine instead of CCC, you 
should get a drive at least one and a half times larger. Use the free Carbon 
Copy Cloner, http://www.bombich.com/download.html   to back up as frequently as 
you like. I suggest daily. Personally I've got three ministacks, with 
TimeMachine hourly backup, and CCC daily and weekly backup.  Don't use Western 
Digital hard drives in the cases; I suggest Seagate or Samsung. 


Addressing 2. Looks like you'll have to take out at least one of the 512MB 
sticks, and preferably replace it with a 2 GB stick. I'm in Oz, but I buy my 
ram from OWC in the States.


Addressing 3. You can still  buy Snow Leopard from Apple, 
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A  and provided you've got a fast 
enough internet link, update to Lion electronically. Do this after you've 
backed up your old system.



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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Ashgrove]

On Jan 30, 5:34 pm, Brian Christmas  wrote:

> First the good news, Kellys got a 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, running 10.4.11

Hi there,

I second everything Brian says, except for a couple of things.

1) That iMac model can only address 3GB of RAM. Bumping it up to the
full 4GB could add an infinitesimal speed bump (I know this from first
hand experience, having a maxed out 17" model), but it's not worth it
in the end. A single 2GB would be the best way to unleash this Mac.

2) I would suggest upgrading to Snow Leopard only, not Lion. Snow
Leopard is a wonderful, smooth, stable OS. Lion is a mixed bag, too
much of a work in progress, at least for my taste. I'm actually
happier using Windows 7 or my latest discovery, Linux Mint (the first
out-of-the-box-usable, geeks-be-darned Linux distro I have ever
tried), than Lion. But that could be just me, of course.

HTH,

Felix

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Jonas Ulrich]

You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less
useful to an average user.

And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work.

-Jonas

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[John Martz]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jonas Ulrich  wrote:
> You could safely update to Leopard without upgrading the ram, but you would
> soon need to upgrade that as well, because Leopard is on it's way out.

My understanding was that as soon as Lion was released Leopard was no
longer supported.

If I'm lookiing at the correct everymac.com entry for your system than
you could also upgrade to either Snow Leopard (on its way out) or
Lion, the currently supported version of OS X.
iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 20-Inch Specs (Late 2006, MA589LL, iMac5,1,
A1207, 2118) @ EveryMac.com
http://bit.ly/xY6CTp

Not sure what would be the best approach for you in your situation.
For one thing, to be safe I'd recommend that you backup your system
before upgrading, but you indicated in your earlier post that you
weren't sure how to do that.

Another thing is that Lion is installed from the Internet, not from a
DVD as earlier versions of OS X were. But you need to have Snow
Leopard installed in order to install Lion from the Apple App store.
Tedious for someone who doesn't enjoy futzing with computers for its
own sake.

Think I'll step back and see what advice others might offer.

-irrational john

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Jonas Ulrich]

I would be willing to bet that the problem is viewing video on the web.
Thats because Tiger is too old now, and doesn't support the latest Flash
Player. You could safely update to Leopard without upgrading the ram, but
you would soon need to upgrade that as well, because Leopard is on it's way
out.

I would definitely upgrade the ram to at least 2GB, and update the OS to
the newest, 10.7 Lion.

You've got a great computer there, just an old OS.

-Jonas

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Brian Christmas]

On 31/01/2012, at 7:51 AM, kelly logsdon (madamekelly) wrote:


> Santa, I did as you instructed, and was able to take my first ever screen 
> shot! Thank you so much. Here it is. -Kelly

 

G'day Listers

I sent Kelly offlist instructions of how to take screen shots of the 'About 
this Mac' window

First the good news, Kellys got a 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, running 10.4.11

Second, the bad news, it's only got standard 1 GB DDR2 ram.



1. Kelly, your Mac should handle video fine, except you might have a lack of 
memory problem.. You might try the Perian and Flip4Mac Quicktime extensions tho.

http://perian.org/

http://dynamic.telestream.net/downloads/download-flip4macwmv.asp?prodid=flip4macwmv

There's a link on the Flip4Mac page to a version suited to 10.4


2. Your Mac can run any version of OS X right up to Lion. 

3. I suggest you upgrade your ram to 2 or 3 GB (keeping your present 1 GB if 
it's a single stick, which from memory they were).
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac/Intel_Core_2_Duo_2006

You can add a single 2 GB Stick of ram for $33.99 (to make 3 GB) or a 1 GB 
stick for $18.99 (to make 2 GB), or even throw away the 1 GB and go for 4 GB 
($64.99), all depending on what you can afford.

A golden rule is the more ram the better, but you'll need to check what memory 
configuration you've got.

To check the memory, open the 'About this Mac' again, and click on the 'more 
info' button. You'll get a list of details. Under 'Hardware' choose 'Memory'. 
You'll get something like…

Memory Slots

DIMM0  1GB DDR2
DIMM1  

However, if you get 

DIMM0  512 MB DDR2
DIMM1  512 MB DDR2

then you'll need to throw away the sticks and replace both. You'll need help 
probably to replace the sticks, they can be hard to get out and insert.

Regards

Santa

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Brian Christmas]

G'day Madamkelly

I've sent you an off list email outlining (with attachments) how to determine 
what model iMac you have.

In addition, sometimes videos won't play happily with quicktime without plug in 
converters.

I suggest you download and install Perian and Flip4Mac. and see if they make a 
difference.

http://perian.org/

http://dynamic.telestream.net/downloads/download-flip4macwmv.asp?prodid=flip4macwmv

They are both free players, and work with OS X.5.

Regards

Santa



On 29/01/2012, at 1:54 PM, madamekelly wrote:

I am a disabled imac user/owner. I still don't use half of what this
machine can do, but I have developed problems with viewing videos. I
do not know if it is because my imac is so old, or is there some other
reason? I mostly use my imac for reading news, watching videos, email,
social networking, etc.  Can anyone tell me in simple English what
might be the problem. I have no idea how to back up files, I just know
that I should.  I have so many questions about this machine, but whet
I tried purchasing "apple support" they were so far head of me
knowledge wise, that I could not understand them most of the time.  I
can not afford to pay someone to come over and give me lessons, so I
have just learned to use it by trial and error. I did pay for lessons
when I bought the imac, but they stopped the classes before I could
take them. They were kind enough to refund my money, but that did not
help me. Would any one here be willing to help me learn just the
basics?  I can't pay much, but I am willing to trade a hand made quilt
for some help. -madamekelly

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[D. Fabel]

madamekelly,

It would be most useful if we knew where you were located. 

Doug
Portland, OR

 
On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:54 PM, madamekelly wrote:

> I am a disabled imac user/owner...Would any one here be willing to help me 
> learn just the
> basics?  I can't pay much, but I am willing to trade a hand made quilt
> for some help. -madamekelly

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Re: upgrade from tiger to???

[Dan]

At 6:54 PM -0800 1/28/2012, madamekelly wrote:

I am a disabled imac user/owner.


Hi madamekelly.  Lots of us around! :)   Where'bouts you located, if 
you don't mind my asking?


have developed problems with viewing videos. I do not know if it is 
because my imac is so old, or is there some other reason? I mostly 
use my imac for reading news, watching videos, email,
social networking, etc.  Can anyone tell me in simple English what 
might be the problem.


It's quite possible that your Mac is so old it cannot handle the 
latest codecs well.  (A codec is the bit of software that decodes the 
video so QuickTime can display it).  That's certainly a problem with 
the oldest iMac G3 and older iMac G4 models.  But to really tell, we 
need more information.


You haven't actually said what the problem is.  "problems with 
viewing videos" could mean anything from direct error messages saying 
you cannot view the video at all, to just stuttering.  Can you be 
more specific as to exactly what's not working correctly?


What is the source of the video -- is this something sitting on your 
HD?  Or it is a CD or DVD?  Or is it from the 'net?  If the latter, 
how 'bout a sample URL so we can take a look?


What application are you using to play the video?

And while we're at it, please tell us about your iMac: exactly what 
model is it, what year, how fast, how much memory, etc...  If you're 
not sure, take a look at the iMacs listed here:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/index-imac.html

HTH,
- Dan.
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upgrade from tiger to???

[madamekelly]

I am a disabled imac user/owner. I still don't use half of what this
machine can do, but I have developed problems with viewing videos. I
do not know if it is because my imac is so old, or is there some other
reason? I mostly use my imac for reading news, watching videos, email,
social networking, etc.  Can anyone tell me in simple English what
might be the problem. I have no idea how to back up files, I just know
that I should.  I have so many questions about this machine, but whet
I tried purchasing "apple support" they were so far head of me
knowledge wise, that I could not understand them most of the time.  I
can not afford to pay someone to come over and give me lessons, so I
have just learned to use it by trial and error. I did pay for lessons
when I bought the imac, but they stopped the classes before I could
take them. They were kind enough to refund my money, but that did not
help me. Would any one here be willing to help me learn just the
basics?  I can't pay much, but I am willing to trade a hand made quilt
for some help. -madamekelly

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