Re: [OT] IMSP and address synchronization support
Cyrus Daboo wrote: > --On Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:48 AM +1000 Jeremy Howard <...> > > If there are no real options for standards that support address book sync > > I guess we'll have to write our own for our webmail site :-( > > This goes back to how you want to use the remote stored data. If you really > want to have a remote personal address book store, then I would argue that > IMSP is the way to go. Of course others may disagree... > IMSP doesn't seem to be very actively supported any more. And none of our users use Mulberry (they use OE, Mutt, Pine, Mozilla, and KMail) so Mulberry support isn't particularly helpful in our case. So I don't see a particularly good reason for us to use IMSP, since we're clearly going to write our own client sync software for WAB, Mozilla, etc anyway... I think I'll write a daemon that provides a replication API to an arbitrary database table, and a client that has a plug-in architecture to allow a mapping between any client data structure of query API, and the server's daemon protocol. That way I can sync favourites/bookmarks, contact, etc just by writing plugins. If anyone knows of anything that already does this, or is interested in helping out, let me know.
America: The Good Neighbor
I usually don't forward these types of messages but this one I thought was truly worth reading. You do not have to respond back to me. This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to aremarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair,a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks asprinted in the Congressional Record: “This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans asthe most generous and possibly the least appreciated peopleon all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy werelifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured inbillions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.None of these countries is today paying even the intereston its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was theAmericans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insultedand swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United Statesthat hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communitieswere flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollarsinto discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries arewriting about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating overthe erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.Does any other country in the world have a plane to equalthe Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man orwoman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on themoon-not once, but several times-and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs rightin the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They arehere on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breakingCanadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at hometo spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking downthrough age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them.When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help ofother people in trouble. Can you name me even one time whensomeone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Franciscoearthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who isdamned tired of hearing them get kicked around.They will come out of this thing with their flag high.And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose atthe lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hopeCanada is not one of those." Stand proud, America!I would hope that each of you would send this to as many peopleas you can and emphasize that they should send it to as manyof their friends until this letter is sent to every person on the web. Rhyder http://www.gnotella.com
Re: IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: WebmailClient)
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:29:43 -0400, > Cyrus Daboo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (cd) writes: cd> In an ideal world, ACAP, the successor protocol to IMSP, would be cd> available, and that would deal with these types of issues. However, cd> the ACAP effort is all but dead, leaving IMSP as the only viable cd> remote address book and preferences protocol in use. I wonder, what ever happened to ACAP? I thought Eudora was another client that was going to support it. Did they back out? I guess you could always store address book info in the IMAP server somehow. I notice PINE is fiddling with ways to store the .pinerc on the IMAP server. -- Amos
Re: IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: WebmailClient)
--On Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:48 AM +1000 Jeremy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In an ideal world, ACAP, the successor protocol to IMSP, would be >> available, and that would deal with these types of issues. However, the >> ACAP effort is all but dead, leaving IMSP as the only viable remote > address >> book and preferences protocol in use. >> > Thanks for clarifying that, Cyrus. What about LDAP--is there any reason > that LDAP cannot be used for address-book synchronization? Its feasable. I think LDAP has the same problem as IMSP does of having to download the entire address book to do the sync. operation. Plus mapping between other address book formats and LDAP schema is the same problem as mapping to IMSP fields. The question is what you intend to do with the data in LDAP. If all you use it for is a network repository for syncing with some other clients' address books, then all you really need is a network database. In fact in that case, ftp would be just as good. However, if you want to actually allow use of the data in LDAP aware clients, then you need to store the address information there in a format that all clients will understand and can 'browse'. LDAP has typically been used to provide a directory service, and this is different from a personal address book, in that in general the directory is read-only. Managing personal address books in LDAP, which requires users to have read-write access to the LDAP server, is harder, and has generally not been done. IMSP is specifically designed for that of course. > The only other address synchronization client I'm aware of is Windows > Address Book (wab.exe) which can sync with the HotMail address book. > However I'm not aware of a published standard that this uses--it's > probably proprietary. A lot of HotMail is proprietary! > If there are no real options for standards that support address book sync > I guess we'll have to write our own for our webmail site :-( This goes back to how you want to use the remote stored data. If you really want to have a remote personal address book store, then I would argue that IMSP is the way to go. Of course others may disagree... -- Cyrus Daboo
Re: IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: Webmail Client)
Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Our products Mulberry and SilkyMail are pretty much the only shipping > clients that use IMSP. The old Simeon/ExecMail client used IMSP too, but > that is no longer being supported. The SilkyMail IMSP support is provided > as a PHP module. This is currently not available as part of the base PHP4 > distribution, but you can grab it from the SilkyMail source distribution > which is free. > <...> > > In an ideal world, ACAP, the successor protocol to IMSP, would be > available, and that would deal with these types of issues. However, the > ACAP effort is all but dead, leaving IMSP as the only viable remote address > book and preferences protocol in use. > Thanks for clarifying that, Cyrus. What about LDAP--is there any reason that LDAP cannot be used for address-book synchronization? The only other address synchronization client I'm aware of is Windows Address Book (wab.exe) which can sync with the HotMail address book. However I'm not aware of a published standard that this uses--it's probably proprietary. If there are no real options for standards that support address book sync I guess we'll have to write our own for our webmail site :-(
imtest on localhost failed (prot layer failure)
Hello, I've installed the cyrus-sasl 1.5.24 and the cyrus-imapd 2.0.16, tcl, makedepend and all the other things which mentioned in the documentation. When i start the imtest program, the following message arrives on the screen: imtest -p imap localhost C: C01 CAPABILITY failure: prot layer failure What could i do to solve these Problem ? If i start the cyradm tool on the localhost i only get an password prompt and after this nothing because the tool exits and bring me back to the system prompt. In the /var/log/messages file the following messages arrives: Sep 15 02:58:54 imap imap: could not getenv(CYRUS_SERVICE); exiting Sep 15 02:58:57 imap imap: could not getenv(CYRUS_SERVICE); exiting Sep 15 02:59:43 imap sshd[1762]: log: Could not reverse map address 192.168.0.101. Sep 15 02:59:45 imap sshd[1762]: fatal: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer Sep 15 03:01:59 imap imap: could not getenv(CYRUS_SERVICE); exiting in the /var/adm/imap.log no new messages... best regards ... in hope to find anyone who can tell me how to solve these difficult problem. Nette Gruesse, Pascal Reinheimer
Re: IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: WebmailClient)
--On Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:23 AM +1000 Jeremy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In particular, Silkymail has support for IMSP preferences and adress >> books, A very interesting feature if you want user being able to share >> address books between Webmail and other mail clients. >> > What clients support IMSP? Is this support synchronization/off-line access > (like good IMAP clients), or on-line access only, or import/export only? > > I'm looking to add something to our webmail site that synchronizes the > Windows Address Book and other common mail client address books with our > server address book. I can't find anything that supports this--the obvious > choice would appear to be to use LDAP on the server, but I can't find any > clients that support synchronization of LDAP with local address books. Our products Mulberry and SilkyMail are pretty much the only shipping clients that use IMSP. The old Simeon/ExecMail client used IMSP too, but that is no longer being supported. The SilkyMail IMSP support is provided as a PHP module. This is currently not available as part of the base PHP4 distribution, but you can grab it from the SilkyMail source distribution which is free. Mulberry does allow disconnected use of IMSP address books, in the same way that it does IMAP mailboxes. However, IMSP does not have the same level of protocol support as IMAP does to make disconnected operations as efficient as they could be. In particular, there is no easy way to determine which addresses have changed on the server, in order to minimise the number of addresses to be synchronised. As a result a client has to download the entire contents of an address book everytime it disconnects to ensure it has an accurate cache of the address book contents. There are other issues related to what address fields it stores and how groups are handled - these would impact on how you synchronise withg some other address book format In an ideal world, ACAP, the successor protocol to IMSP, would be available, and that would deal with these types of issues. However, the ACAP effort is all but dead, leaving IMSP as the only viable remote address book and preferences protocol in use. -- Cyrus Daboo Cyrusoft International, Inc.
RE: Outlook connection termination
Here's an interesting development if anyone is interested in this thread. I am using SSL for all IMAP connections. If I turn off SSL in Outlook, I am able to retreive the large email attachments. Turn SSL back on and I'm back to getting error noted below. Curious... Doug Bible --On Friday, September 14, 2001 6:17 PM -0400 Doug Bible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have adjusted the timeout settings in Outlook to no avail during my > previous attempts at fixing this issue. I have just now updated to > version 2.0.16 of cyrus imap (quite flawless I might add) and still am > having the same issue of Outlook timing out while trying to access email > with large attachments (over 1mb). > > Anyone else have any suggestions? My users are getting antsy :) > > Doug Bible > > --On Friday, September 14, 2001 2:56 PM -0500 Rodney Barnett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> We're using Outlook 2000 with cyrus imap v2.0.15 on RedHat 7. I haven't >> seen the problem that you describe though. Outlook does have a server >> timeout setting in the account configuration on the Advanced tab. We're >> using the default of 1 minute. >> >> Rodney >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Bible >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:00 PM >> To: info-cyrus mail list >> Subject: Outlook connection termination >> >> >> I have installed cyrus imap v2.0.9 on a linux install of Redhat 7. As >> far as the settings are concerned, everything is configured for default >> options. I am having difficulty with accessing emails with large >> attachments using Outlook 2000. When an attempt is made to retrieve an >> email with large attachments, I recieve this message: >> >> "Can't open this item. The server did not respond to this IMAP command >> before the connection was terminated." >> >> I only noticed this with Outlook (imagine that!). I have gotten the same >> email using a web based client, Mulberry, Pine and Netscape. The one >> thing that I noticed that Outlook was the only client that retrieves the >> attachments WITH the body of the message. All the other clients only got >> the attachment when requested by the user. >> >> I am looking to resolve this through a setting in Outlook, but given the >> absolute lack of usability of this product, I am not hopeful of this. >> Has anyone else dealt with this issue and if so, is there a setting at >> the server (Cyrus) that can be made to accomodate Outlook's inabilities? >> >> Doug Bible >> Computer Systems Specialist >> >> / >> * University of Tennessee * >> * College of Social Work* >> * Office of Research and Public Service * >> * phone: (865)974-6015 * >> * fax: (865)974-0814 * >> * pager: (865)402-0513 * >> / >> > > > >
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Evil Azrael wrote: > But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure > for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see > and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. > somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails > from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their > abilities, or am I wrong? > Outlook Express v6 is pretty good. There are various options now to turn off JavaScript et al, and it's protocol support is OK (supports off-line use, supports SSL, supports S-MIME). It's not particularly well-behaved though, in that it opens a new connection for every folder that it synchronizes :-( Some people report good things about Mulberry, although I find it poor in the usability stakes. Mozilla has a good IMAP client that works well under all platforms that Mozilla supports, including Windows.
Re: lmtp socket
> Check the /etc/cyrus.conf file and make sure you have your lmtpunix enabled.
>
> -- Scott
These line are present in /etc/cyrus.conf:
SERVICES {
imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=1
imapscmd="imapd -s" listen="imaps" prefork=0
lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket/imap"
lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="localhost:lmtp"
}
$ telnet localhost lmtp
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 server LMTP Cyrus v2.0.16 ready
$ netstat -a | grep imap
tcp0 0 *:imaps *:* LISTEN
tcp0 0 *:imap *:* LISTEN
unix 0 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 211595
/var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket/imap
hehehe ... in the process of writing this email I fixed the problem!
The error:
Sep 14 16:02:15 server deliver[5186]: connect(/var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket/lmtp)
failed: Connection refused
shows that it is trying to connect to lmtp ... which doesn't exist. I
linked lmtp -> imap and stuff started working.
This is sort of strange, but whatever.
Thanks Scott.
Brendan
Re: crontrib/notify_unix/notify.pl
Sandra wrote: > I was testing cyrus notification , but there is no notify.pl as > crontrib/notify_unix/Readme says to > start in notify perl program. > >Where is this program? > 2.0.16's README says: The Perl script 'simple_notify.pl' simply logs mail notifications--it shows the simplest possible handler. The Perl script 'mysql_notify.pl' also logs the notification, but in addition it looks up the username in a DB table in order to get additional information about the user. There is no mention of 'notify.pl' in this readme. To use this notification you take simple_notify.pl, and replace the function "log_connection" with a function that does whatever notification you're interested in. Let me know if you have any more questions--and if you do get it working let me know how you find it, and post your notification daemon to cyrus-utils: http://www.sf.net/projects/cyrus-utils so that others can take advantage of it. HTH, Jeremy
RE: Outlook connection termination
I have adjusted the timeout settings in Outlook to no avail during my previous attempts at fixing this issue. I have just now updated to version 2.0.16 of cyrus imap (quite flawless I might add) and still am having the same issue of Outlook timing out while trying to access email with large attachments (over 1mb). Anyone else have any suggestions? My users are getting antsy :) Doug Bible --On Friday, September 14, 2001 2:56 PM -0500 Rodney Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're using Outlook 2000 with cyrus imap v2.0.15 on RedHat 7. I haven't > seen the problem that you describe though. Outlook does have a server > timeout setting in the account configuration on the Advanced tab. We're > using the default of 1 minute. > > Rodney > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Bible > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:00 PM > To: info-cyrus mail list > Subject: Outlook connection termination > > > I have installed cyrus imap v2.0.9 on a linux install of Redhat 7. As far > as the settings are concerned, everything is configured for default > options. I am having difficulty with accessing emails with large > attachments using Outlook 2000. When an attempt is made to retrieve an > email with large attachments, I recieve this message: > > "Can't open this item. The server did not respond to this IMAP command > before the connection was terminated." > > I only noticed this with Outlook (imagine that!). I have gotten the same > email using a web based client, Mulberry, Pine and Netscape. The one > thing that I noticed that Outlook was the only client that retrieves the > attachments WITH the body of the message. All the other clients only got > the attachment when requested by the user. > > I am looking to resolve this through a setting in Outlook, but given the > absolute lack of usability of this product, I am not hopeful of this. Has > anyone else dealt with this issue and if so, is there a setting at the > server (Cyrus) that can be made to accomodate Outlook's inabilities? > > Doug Bible > Computer Systems Specialist > > / > * University of Tennessee * > * College of Social Work* > * Office of Research and Public Service * > * phone: (865)974-6015 * > * fax: (865)974-0814 * > * pager: (865)402-0513 * > / >
IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: Webmail Client)
Michel Jouvin wrote: > In particular, Silkymail has support for IMSP preferences and adress > books, A very interesting feature if you want user being able to share > address books between Webmail and other mail clients. > What clients support IMSP? Is this support synchronization/off-line access (like good IMAP clients), or on-line access only, or import/export only? I'm looking to add something to our webmail site that synchronizes the Windows Address Book and other common mail client address books with our server address book. I can't find anything that supports this--the obvious choice would appear to be to use LDAP on the server, but I can't find any clients that support synchronization of LDAP with local address books.
Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd?
Ken Murchison wrote: <...rather long thread where Ken and I confuse each other greatly snipped...> > One of the two of us is either confused or not being clear. Let's try > to put this thread to rest :^) > Sorry, no such luck yet :-( You can reply to this off-list if you think this is getting out of control--although so far we seem to be getting somewhere so maybe the discussion is good for the archives... > Your statement above is NOT correct. pwcheck and saslauthd are > completely independent of one another, and can (and will) use different > protocols (check the SASL v2 source). If you look at configure.in, > nothing prevents you from compiling support for both into a single SASL > library. This means (in theory) that Cyrus could be using saslauthd and > Sendmail could be using pwcheck. > According to Christopher Audley in the message: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/archive/message.php?mailbox=archive.info-cyrus&msg=10 234: To the core sasl library, it looks just like pwcheck. Open a UNIX socket, pass in 'username\0password\0' and get back 'OK' or something else. saslauthd defaults to putting its socket in a different location from pwcheck, but it has a command line switch you can use to emulate pwcheck behavior. Because the protocol is essentially the same as pwcheck, you can lift saslauthd from a latter version of SASL and use it with your 1.5.24 SASL installation Sure, you can "compile support for both", but all that means is you can have two different unix sockets for two different SASL-using apps. Of course Christopher's description above now needs to be updated to say "pass in 'usernamepasswordservicerealm' and get back '2OK' or something else". Now if we do change to that different wire protocol, I strongly suggest that it be changed for both the saslauthd _and_ the pwcheck sockets. Making that different would just be confusing, and would mean that pwcheck daemons would not be able to take advantage of the realm and service parameters. > I would consider the pwcheck support in SASL v2 for backwards > compatibility only. > Maybe we need a distinction between "pwcheck-socket-support" which is the ability to tell SASL to contact a Unix socket to authenticate, versus "pwcheck-shadow-daemon" which is the pwcheck daemon that comes with SASL 1.x for authenticating against the shadow file. The pwcheck-shadow-daemon is clearly redundent with saslauthd, because it is less flexible and less scalable. The pwcheck-socket-support is (I don't think) for "backwards compatibility only". It is the very wire protocol that saslauthd uses. > If I were going to write a new authentication > module/mechanism, I would do so using the saslauthd framework. Mainly > because I only need to write a single protocol-agnostic function to > interface with saslauthd. If I were going to write a new authentication module/mechanism, I would do so using the Perl-pwcheck framework. With this I only need to write a single protocol-agnostic function to interface with the Perl-pwcheck framework. I also get the benefits I mentioned in my last message (choice of forking models, no re-compilation, use of Perl rather than C). Note that this framework is not released yet, since I want to clarify these issues as they may effect the interface of Perl-pwcheck.
Re: lmtp socket
Brendan - Check the /etc/cyrus.conf file and make sure you have your lmtpunix enabled. -- Scott On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:16:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > # ls -Al /var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket > total 0 > srwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 Sep 14 15:58 imap > > so there is indeed no lmtp socket. > > How do I create this socket? -- Regards, Scott Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linux Technology Center, System Admin, RHCE. T/L 441-9289 / External 919-543-9289 http://bzimage.raleigh.ibm.com/webcam
crontrib/notify_unix/notify.pl
HI! I was testing cyrus notification , but there is no notify.pl as crontrib/notify_unix/Readme says to start in notify perl program. Where is this program? Sandra
lmtp socket
I try: # cat /tmp/msg | ../../bin/deliver user and it hangs..when I check the logs I see: Sep 14 16:02:15 server deliver[5186]: connect(/var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket/lmtp) failed: Connection refused # ls -Al /var/tmp/imap/configdir/socket total 0 srwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 Sep 14 15:58 imap so there is indeed no lmtp socket. How do I create this socket? Thanks, Brendan
Username Character Limitations... How to overcome?
I have a need to run a server with virtual mailboxes that can have identical username portions of [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a variety of domains. My initial solution was to simply have the users login as [EMAIL PROTECTED] after removing some checks in the source code, I now see that adding users is done with a period to differentiate between folders. What's a good way to overcome this virtual mailbox with identical username issues to keep the login names consistent for the end user (i.e. keep support calls down). I've done this before when building large webmail systems by using "user123919231274" as the login name, with their logical username mapped to that kind of wacky string. But that wont work in this scenario. Any ideas? Your haste is appreciated greatly! -- Robert
Re: Cyrus and performance
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We do have multiple IO channels (the machine has something like 3 of the dual channel PCI ethernet cards) and our RAID units are hardware RAID units with 128MB of writeback/read cache in support of the RAID units. Walter means 3 of the dual channel PCI _SCSI_ cards, not ethernet cards. The machine has a single 100 megabit Ethernet connection. Larry
RE: Outlook connection termination
We're using Outlook 2000 with cyrus imap v2.0.15 on RedHat 7. I haven't seen the problem that you describe though. Outlook does have a server timeout setting in the account configuration on the Advanced tab. We're using the default of 1 minute. Rodney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Bible Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:00 PM To: info-cyrus mail list Subject: Outlook connection termination I have installed cyrus imap v2.0.9 on a linux install of Redhat 7. As far as the settings are concerned, everything is configured for default options. I am having difficulty with accessing emails with large attachments using Outlook 2000. When an attempt is made to retrieve an email with large attachments, I recieve this message: "Can't open this item. The server did not respond to this IMAP command before the connection was terminated." I only noticed this with Outlook (imagine that!). I have gotten the same email using a web based client, Mulberry, Pine and Netscape. The one thing that I noticed that Outlook was the only client that retrieves the attachments WITH the body of the message. All the other clients only got the attachment when requested by the user. I am looking to resolve this through a setting in Outlook, but given the absolute lack of usability of this product, I am not hopeful of this. Has anyone else dealt with this issue and if so, is there a setting at the server (Cyrus) that can be made to accomodate Outlook's inabilities? Doug Bible Computer Systems Specialist / * University of Tennessee * * College of Social Work* * Office of Research and Public Service * * phone: (865)974-6015 * * fax: (865)974-0814 * * pager: (865)402-0513 * /
Outlook connection termination
I have installed cyrus imap v2.0.9 on a linux install of Redhat 7. As far as the settings are concerned, everything is configured for default options. I am having difficulty with accessing emails with large attachments using Outlook 2000. When an attempt is made to retrieve an email with large attachments, I recieve this message: "Can't open this item. The server did not respond to this IMAP command before the connection was terminated." I only noticed this with Outlook (imagine that!). I have gotten the same email using a web based client, Mulberry, Pine and Netscape. The one thing that I noticed that Outlook was the only client that retrieves the attachments WITH the body of the message. All the other clients only got the attachment when requested by the user. I am looking to resolve this through a setting in Outlook, but given the absolute lack of usability of this product, I am not hopeful of this. Has anyone else dealt with this issue and if so, is there a setting at the server (Cyrus) that can be made to accomodate Outlook's inabilities? Doug Bible Computer Systems Specialist / * University of Tennessee * * College of Social Work* * Office of Research and Public Service * * phone: (865)974-6015 * * fax: (865)974-0814 * * pager: (865)402-0513 * /
Re: Webmail Client
Evil Azrael wrote: >Guten Tag Richard Hopkins, >RH> SilkyMail from Cyrusoft > >RH> http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ > >RH> is well worth a look. > >Not really... somehow it feels like horde/imp and the url of the >program where you are being redirected has imp in it´s path part. > >Christoph Nelles > > Christoph, Do you have any problems with silkymail besides that it "feels like IMP?" I'm using IMP now, and while its not my preferred mail client, I like it better than squirrelmail. Sure, the install sucked, but once it was done I was pretty happy with it, and so are my users. I'm not using any database with it - just the basic webmail functionality. After looking at silkymail I was considering switching. It looks like silkymail has all the features IMP has and maybe more, I think the interface looks nicer and is more intuitive... what negative experience did you have with silkymail?
Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd?
I want to pipe up here and clarify my original intent and statements. Some posters where asking about saslauthd; what it was, were it could be found, etc. While it is true that saslauthd "can (and will)" use a different protocol to communitcate with the SASL library, today in the here and now, pwcheck and saslauthd are interchangeable. If you wish to use some of the more advances capabilities of saslauthd, but not upgrade to the 2.0.x SASL series ( which you should not do ), you can do so. To avoid problems going forward, if you wish to use saslauthd with SASL 1.5.24, use cvs to checkout the version tagged sasl-1_5_27 and use the saslauthd deamon found there. - Original Message - From: "Ken Murchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeremy Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Christopher Audley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd? > > Your statement above is NOT correct. pwcheck and saslauthd are > completely independent of one another, and can (and will) use different > protocols (check the SASL v2 source). If you look at configure.in, > nothing prevents you from compiling support for both into a single SASL > library. This means (in theory) that Cyrus could be using saslauthd and > Sendmail could be using pwcheck. >
Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd?
I want to pipe up here and clarify my original intent and statements. Some posters where asking about saslauthd; what it was, were it could be found, etc. While it is true that saslauthd "can (and will)" use a different protocol to communitcate with the SASL library, today in the here and now, pwcheck and saslauthd are interchangeable. If you wish to use some of the more advances capabilities of saslauthd, but not upgrade to the 2.0.x SASL series ( which you should not do ), you can do so. To avoid problems going forward, if you wish to use saslauthd with SASL 1.5.24, use cvs to checkout the version tagged sasl-1_5_27 and use the saslauthd deamon found there. - Original Message - From: "Ken Murchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeremy Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Christopher Audley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd? > > Your statement above is NOT correct. pwcheck and saslauthd are > completely independent of one another, and can (and will) use different > protocols (check the SASL v2 source). If you look at configure.in, > nothing prevents you from compiling support for both into a single SASL > library. This means (in theory) that Cyrus could be using saslauthd and > Sendmail could be using pwcheck. >
Re: Quota warnings
Jeremy Howard wrote: >Ken Murchison wrote > >>Other than than, you can write a script (I think one has been posted to >>the list previously) which can detect overquota and quotawarn conditions >>and post a message to a user's INBOX (via 'deliver -q'). >> >Actually, Jules has already written that script :-) Those you are interested >can find it at cyrus-utils, it's called quotacheck: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/cyrus-utils >with the direct URL: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cyrus-utils/quotacheck.tar.gz > While I would love to take credit for it, (it's a nice script) it was actually written by Mark Borrie of the University of Otago in New Zealand. After I posted my question to the list, Alain Turbide forwarded the script to me. It was *exactly* what I was looking for, and so I contacted Mark and got permission to post it to cyrus-utils.
Account Expiration
Hi, I'm using imap 2.0.15 with sasl 1.5.24, pam, and pam_ldap on RedHat 7. Things seem to be working about as well as can be expected given Outlook's distate for IMAP servers. However, I've recently discovered that though I can stop an account from logging in via SSH by tweaking the shadow attributes in the LDAP entry (e.g., setting shadowExpire to 0) these settings seem to have no effect on imapd. Outlook still connects and reads mail. Is there something that I need to configure to make this happen or is it not possible? TIA. Rodney
Re[2]: Webmail Client
Guten Tag Richard Hopkins, RH> SilkyMail from Cyrusoft RH> http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ RH> is well worth a look. Not really... somehow it feels like horde/imp and the url of the program where you are being redirected has imp in it´s path part. Christoph Nelles
Re: Webmail Client
In particular, Silkymail has support for IMSP preferences and adress books, A very interesting feature if you want user being able to share address books between Webmail and other mail clients. Michel On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:06:58 +0100 Richard Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SilkyMail from Cyrusoft > > http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ > > is well worth a look. > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:38:01 -0300 Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey guys > > > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > > > Rehuel > > Richard Hopkins, > Information Services, > Computer Centre, > University of Bristol, > Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK > > Tel +44 117 928 7859 > Fax +44 117 929 1576 > > RFC-822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * * Michel Jouvin Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * LAL / CNRSFax : +33 1 69079404* * B.P. 34 * * 91898 Orsay Cedex * * France* *
Re: Webmail Client
Thus spake Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? I would second the recommendation for SquirrelMail. The user community is also very helpful. -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. -- PGP signature
Re: Webmail Client
You may check out IMP (www.horde.org) or Squirrel Mail. (www.squirrelmail.org) THere are many more but the choice depends on your requirements. Regards, Oyku Gencay - Original Message - From: Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Webmail Client Hey guys Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? Rehuel
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Just have a look at this webmail compare matrix : http://members.ferrara.linux.it/gmeneghetti/webmailcompare/ Bye Evil Azrael wrote: > Guten Tag Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita, > > i have recently checked some webmail clients. my special requirement > was that the client must not need mysql (i hate mysql; PostgreSQL > rulez !). > You can find the following at freshmeat.net : > > SquirrelMail > The one i will go to use. It´s special feature is that it support > plugins und you find a lot of them at its website. It does not need a > DB. > > Horde > It was a pain to configure and the current stable release lacks a lot > of features while i wasn´t able to run the development release :(. > will recheck it then the new release will be ready. Runs best with a > DB. > > AeroMail > Very simple. Both in installation and features. > > Nocc > The same, but made a much better impression. > > Postamt & Werkmail > Got deleted immediately. can´t remember why. > > Twig > Isn´t just a Webmail program. it´s a whole multi-user environment > including schedules and many other things. too heavy for my needs. > > That are the ones i checked. you should probably check them and others > for yourself to really find what you need. If anyone can recommend any > other, i will happily test it, too. > > But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure > for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see > and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. > somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails > from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their > abilities, or am I wrong? > > Christoph Nelles > > Am Freitag, 14. September 2001 um 13:38 schrieben Sie: > > RLdM> Hey guys > > RLdM> Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > RLdM> Rehuel > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > Evil Azrael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jean-Christophe Kermagoret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail Client
SilkyMail from Cyrusoft http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ is well worth a look. On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:38:01 -0300 Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > Rehuel Richard Hopkins, Information Services, Computer Centre, University of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK Tel +44 117 928 7859 Fax +44 117 929 1576 RFC-822: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FAQ: What is saslauthd?
Jeremy Howard wrote: > > Ken Murchison wrote: > > Jeremy Howard wrote: > > > > > > Ken Murchison wrote: > > > > Now that I think about it, what's the difference? The pwcheck > > > > capability is not going away, so anything you have already written > will > > > > still work. With saslauthd, the daemon itself speaks the protocol, > NOT > > > > the backend mechanism. As long as the API for mechanisms doesn't > change > > > > (which it will/has in the SASL v2 code), we should be able to change > the > > > > protocol all day long without breaking the "plug-in" code. > > > > > > > Sorry if I displaying ignorance here, but I was under the impression > that > > > saslauthd is simply a daemon that _does_ use the pwcheck API, except > that > > > the SASL configure script happens to set it up to use a different Unix > > > socket to normal. So if saslauthd is using char-counted strings (which I > now > > > understand from Lyndon's message may reduce security problems) then the > > > pwcheck interface must be changed to use these strings. Which means that > > > daemons already written will have to be changed to use the new string > > > format. > > > > Disclaimer: I have never used/implemented pwcheck, so please verify what > > I say, and corretc me if necessary. > > > > If by API, you mean the wire-protocol, then pwcheck and saslauthd _used_ > > to be the same, but I don't consider that an API. AFAIK, pwcheck > > doesn't have an API, where saslauthd does (even though the guts of both > > is very similar). > > > Yes, by API I mean wire-protocol. And my understanding is that saslauthd is > simply a daemon that uses the pwcheck wire-protocol under the surface. There > will not be separate pwcheck and saslauthd wire-protocols--although the > configure script for SASL will use a different port for the saslauthd > daemon. Therefore the changing of the wire protocol will effect existing > pwcheck daemons. One of the two of us is either confused or not being clear. Let's try to put this thread to rest :^) Your statement above is NOT correct. pwcheck and saslauthd are completely independent of one another, and can (and will) use different protocols (check the SASL v2 source). If you look at configure.in, nothing prevents you from compiling support for both into a single SASL library. This means (in theory) that Cyrus could be using saslauthd and Sendmail could be using pwcheck. > Note that I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad idea--I'm just trying to > clarify the facts. I hope this is clear enough. > > For saslauthd, all you need to write is a single function which takes > > the username, password, service and realm as args, verifies against the > > LDAP server and returns a response string. saslauthd has a "plug-in" > > interface which can be used to add any mechanism to those already > > existing in saslauthd. The biggest difference is that implementers to > > NOT have to worry about the wire-protocol. > > Yes I'm well of this. In fact my upcoming Perl pwcheck framework will offer > exactly the same functionality. The differences will be that: > - It will use Net::Server underneath which means a choice of >fork-on-demand, preforking, or single process daemon models > - No re-compilation to add/change mechs because it's Perl > - Plug-ins written in Perl rather than C I would consider the pwcheck support in SASL v2 for backwards compatibility only. If I were going to write a new authentication module/mechanism, I would do so using the saslauthd framework. Mainly because I only need to write a single protocol-agnostic function to interface with saslauthd. Just my $.02 Ken -- Kenneth Murchison Oceana Matrix Ltd. Software Engineer 21 Princeton Place 716-662-8973 x26 Orchard Park, NY 14127 --PGP Public Key--http://www.oceana.com/~ken/ksm.pgp
Re: upgrading cyrus verion
> To repair my quota woes I have to upgrade my cyrus install. > > PLEASE tell me from your experience what version you currently find to be the most stable. > > I am running 2.0.7 > 2.0.16 is much the most stable of the 2.x series, particularly under load. CMU have reported 5000 simultaneous connections on a single dual CPU Sun server.
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Guten Tag Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita, i have recently checked some webmail clients. my special requirement was that the client must not need mysql (i hate mysql; PostgreSQL rulez !). You can find the following at freshmeat.net : SquirrelMail The one i will go to use. It´s special feature is that it support plugins und you find a lot of them at its website. It does not need a DB. Horde It was a pain to configure and the current stable release lacks a lot of features while i wasn´t able to run the development release :(. will recheck it then the new release will be ready. Runs best with a DB. AeroMail Very simple. Both in installation and features. Nocc The same, but made a much better impression. Postamt & Werkmail Got deleted immediately. can´t remember why. Twig Isn´t just a Webmail program. it´s a whole multi-user environment including schedules and many other things. too heavy for my needs. That are the ones i checked. you should probably check them and others for yourself to really find what you need. If anyone can recommend any other, i will happily test it, too. But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their abilities, or am I wrong? Christoph Nelles Am Freitag, 14. September 2001 um 13:38 schrieben Sie: RLdM> Hey guys RLdM> Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? RLdM> Rehuel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Evil Azraelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+'d users with sendail + cyrus imap 2.0.15 ...
I've got Cyrus-IMAPd setup on my machine (2.0.15), but am having problems with "plussed users" ... Namely: postgresql# sendmail -bv [EMAIL PROTECTED] "|/usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_enqueue -r -d postgresql.org -l pgsql-hackers"... deliverable: mailer prog, user "|/usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_enqueue -r -d postgresql.org -l pgsql-hackers" postgresql# sendmail -bv [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] aliasing/forwarding loop broken (11 aliases deep; 10 max) [EMAIL PROTECTED] aliasing/forwarding loop broken My 'delivery agent' is setup as: Mcyrus, P=[IPC], F=lsDFMnqA5@/:|SmXz, E=\r\n, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=FILE /var/spool/imap/socket/lmtp I've gone through the 'Bat' book, and all I'm finding in there is a short description on what plussed users are good for, but nothing on how to enable them ... is this a mis-configuration issue with sendmail? or am I doing something wrong with cyrus-imap? Thanks
Re: Webmail Client
check out squirrelmail, http://www.squirrelmail.org/. it's gnu, written in php4 and fast. > Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita wrote: > > Hey guys > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > Rehuel -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrading cyrus verion
Good Morning! To repair my quota woes I have to upgrade my cyrus install. PLEASE tell me from your experience what version you currently find to be the most stable. I am running 2.0.7 I appreciate it! -Kiarna
Webmail Client
Hey guys Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? Rehuel
