Re: [ITCENTER] Komputer Susah Hidup

[Annas]

switch powernya dah di bersihin???

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Komputer Susah Hidup


> 100% PSU
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> Hi ITers...
> Mo tanya neh, salah satu komputerku kalo pagi susah dihidupin, harus
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> dulu kabel powernya colokin lagi, baru mau hidup, kira2 kerusakan ada pada
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Re: [ITCENTER] hacker atau cracker mau hadiah?

[Annas]

CASE CLOSED

mana notulennya?
ya bgitulah dunia, ada dua sisi yg berpasangan tapi berlainan.

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] hacker atau cracker mau hadiah?


> Iya Nih.. om Ronald, saya sih udah ga mo bahas masalah yang "muter" 
> seperti
> ini,... tapi mo gimana lagi...Tapi saya suka ama mas Ryo Saeba ini... 
> karena
> ga pernah menyerah hehehehe... mudah"an jadi temen akrab 
> gweSoalnya
> saya juga pernah ngalamin yang kayak gini. udah tuh jadi temen 
> asyik
> juga
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> Buat... Mas Ryo saya senang berdiskusi dengan anda ... jangan dimasukin
> dalam ati semua comment saya anggap aja itu semua adalah permulaan
> perkenalan kita di milis ini sekali lagi Peace dan maaf kalau ada
> kata-kata saya yang kurang berkenan di hati mas Ryo mari kita tutup
> thread ini dengan hati yang damai... Oke
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> Salam, 354
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>> kenapa gak [EMAIL PROTECTED] dan ryo saeba bicara saja by phone?
>> karena takut nya apa yg ditulis diartikan lain antara 1 pihak dengan 
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>> lainnya...
>> ujung2x nya malah gak kelar2x thread nya.
>> karena saya baca koq kayanya sudah panas..
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>> *no offence
>> saya gak ikut2x, cuma baca saja dari pertama, tapi koq muter2x :)
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Re: [ITCENTER] Fw: tv turner

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cb setting di advance troubleshoot display properties. masuk ke hardware 
accelaration. ubah menjadi ke none. atau coba2 disitu.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] Fw: tv turner


> DWI KURNIAWAN
> saya punya tv turner merk pixelview(playtv400 usb)
> saya mengunakan OS win xp2
> masalahnya setelah saya install tv tuner tampilan pertama ok setelah klik 
> gambar tv malah hang
> mungkin  teman 2 milis ada solusinya
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Re: [ITCENTER] Explorer Not Started :(

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OS nya apa?

1.cb liat settingan display properties.(tampilan di desktop)
2.cb liat user login(mgk dia hanya user biasa yg di kunci fasilitas 
explorenya)
3.cb liat administrator services(mgk fungsi explore di matikan walau login 
admin)
4.apa lagi ya... restore aja pak. kl NB biasanya di sertakan cd Restore


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Subject: [ITCENTER] Explorer Not Started :(


> Dear All,
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> Mohon bantuannya,..
> Salah satu NB di tempat saya bekerja, hilang semua icon yang berada di 
> desktopnya & saya sdh coba safe-mode sama juga yang terlihat hanya 
> wallpaper saja.
> Kira2 ada masalah apa ya..?
> Langkah yang sdh saya jalankan antara lain :
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> 1. Lepas HDD dan scanning Antivirus --> tdk ada virus
> 2. Jalankan explorer melalui Ctrl+Alt+Delt -->New task ->explorer, 
> tdk bisa juga.
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> Untuk menampilkan seluruh icon-nya & taskbarnya lagi gimana ya..?
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Re: [ITCENTER] CDROM & DVD ROM Repair

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satu cara yg paling murah dan efisien, pergi k tukang tambal ban, beli 
"anginnya".
bongkar tuh dvdrom or cdrom semprotin deh ke semua sela dan bagian. kl 
masih rejeki pasti bisa baca lagi.

nb. dvd or cdrom nya mesti bisa di baca di bios. kl nggak brarti 
motherboardnya yg rusak.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] CDROM & DVD ROM Repair


> Selamat Siang,
> Aku punya banyak CDROM & DVD ROM yang udah gak bisa lagi baca disk,
> kira-kira rekan-rekan yang punya pengalaman memperbaiki CDROM & DVD
> ROM, bagi-bagi donk caranya.
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Re: [ITCENTER] wingate v.6 permit utk yahoo messengger

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bersihkan semua file cache dan profile di semua komputer yg memakai YM.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] wingate v.6 permit utk yahoo messengger


> Dear All,
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> kantorku pake wingate v.6 dulunya pake YM ok2 aja
> tapi sudah +- 2 minggu ini tiba2 YM mati(pucet),
> padalah tidak di rubah2, kenapa ya?
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Re: [ITCENTER] Saling kenal? [Pakai FS]

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oioioioi mimin or momodnya mana ni
ga mo mendahului mbah2nya doong...
tp ok jg nih ikutan
ym bajindulgateli
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> 
> Friendster ITCenter boleh juga tuh..
> Udah ada yang create blon ???
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya : s/w check grammar bhs Inggris

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mikocok word.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] Tanya : s/w check grammar bhs Inggris


> 
> Rekan..
> Tanya dong,
> Dulu sewaktu jaman DOS - ada s/w utk mengkoreksi tulisan bhs Inggris.
> Di s/w tidak hanya spell checker, tetapi juga grammar dan style tulisan.
> Kalau nggak salah namanya Grammatik dan Right Writer.
> Saya sdh cari2 s/w tsb, tetapi ternyata nggak ada versi windows.
> Ada yg tahu nggak ya? Under Linux juga boleh.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Firewall

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saya pernah puas dengan kerio. walau waktu itu versi trial, tp keampuhannya 
cukup terbukti.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] Firewall


> Dear All
> Kira-kira Software Firewall apa yahh yang bagus.saya pake koneksi ADSL and
> Mail Server MDaemon
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Re: [ITCENTER] bikin warnet

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1, dana
2, uang,
hehehe bcanda.

1. tempat.(ruko, kontrakan, rumah,dll)
2. koneksi.(kabelvision,wifi,adsl,dialup,isdn,dll)
3. server.(u billing soft dan keperluan lainnya, burning, ngeprint, scan)
4. workstation(untuk client)
5. backbone(modem, router, gateway, dll)
6. LAN(switch, dan UTP)
7. billing software(yg beli billingexplorer.com, yg gratis cb googling ada 
kok.)
8. operator(yg ngerti ttg inet dan sedikit jaringan, aplikasi)
9. izin dan registrasi(min pemerintah setempat)
10. tambahan(webcam, printer, scanner, softdrink, blutut, dll)
11. do'a yg utama..

selebihnya bisa menyusul...itu sih pengalaman gw. bisa japri kl mo tau lbh 
lanjut.


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> apa apa ajah sih persiapan untuk pembuatan usaha warnet pliss ?
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Re: [ITCENTER] modem cdma yang OK ?

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hehehe cdma ya, mo di share?? waduh koneksinya itu bukan pita lebar mas, 
sharingnya bakalan bikin sedot2an bandwith. kl cm buat chating sih ok lah.

6585>>> bentuk hp bisa buat nelpon
netac>>> ga bisa buat nelpon :)
fwt koneksi kurang stabil.

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] modem cdma yang OK ?


> Hi
>
>  kalo setahu saya, yang sudah di test sama team dari mobile 8 ada ZTE, 
> growell, netax.  tapi rasanya itu semua adalah internal modem dech seperti 
> pcmcia.
>
>  kalo misalnya mo sharing mungkin bisa coba dengan pake cross cable dari 
> satu kompi ke kompi yang lain, atawa pake hub. tapi settingan gatewaynya 
> harus di point ke IP dari kompi yang ada modemnya.
>
>  mudah-mudahan jawaban ini bisa membantu.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Wina
>
>
>
>
> telkom147 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> tanya donk guys
> gue rencana mau pake modem cdma + fren mobile ISP untuk koneksi
> internet.
>
> Kira2 apa merk modem cdma yang bagus ?
> Katanya ada modem cdma yang ada port RJ45 jadi langsung bisa sharing..
>
> thanks...
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Re: [ITCENTER] Cara mengetahui password administrator...help me please

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pk bahasa yg lebih dapat diterima dgn cara membuat regulasi untuk user untuk 
apa2 aja yg boleh atau tidak akan jauh lebih dapat meningkatkan kerjasama 
dalam lingkungan kerja, masalah hanya satu, komunikasi!!!

kl hanya untuk menembus-nembus sesuatu itu hanya masalah waktu dan 
kesabaran. palagi untuk spying wah2 banyak cara... mas.

admin punya hak untuk manage tp apa punya hak untuk sniff...

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> Lha mas ini administrator atau bukan? Jika bukan,  apakah perusahaan mas 
> bergerak dibidang penelitian? Apakah mas bekerja  pada bidang meneliti 
> software atau computer security?
>  
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> Muhammad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Coba gini
> login sebagai administrator
> password kosong
> domainnya ganti nama pc yang and pakai
> contoh
> login : administrator
> pass: kosong
> domain: itcenter (ganti dengan nama host yang anda gunakan ) tekan enter
> kalo bisa masuk .. anda bisa install dengan menggunakan administrator 
> lokal
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> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [ITCENTER] Cara mengetahui password administrator...help me
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of hendri timbat
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:47 AM
>> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [ITCENTER] Cara mengetahui password administrator...help me
> please
>>
>> Selamat pagi rekan2
>> Aku mohon bantuannya dongDikantor ku lagi dilakukan penggantian
> komputer
>> baru, yang dikerjakan oleh suatu perusahaan penyedia komputer, mereka 
>> yang
>> lakukan installisasi program yg akan dipakai dan menjadi standar
> dikantorku
>> (katanya hanaya boleh menginstal program yang telah ada lisensinya),
>> masalahnya adalah kita sebagai pemakai komputer tidak boleh menginstall
>> apapun dikomputer tersebut (mereka menginstall program dengan memakai 
>> user
>> sebagai administrator), padahal selain program standar kita juga
> membutuhkan
>> beberapa program yang diluar itu yang bersifat freeware.
>> untuk itu aku mohon bantuan rekan2 yang mengetahui gimana caranya agar
> kita
>> dapat mengetahui user name dan password yg dipakai oleh adminitrator
> sewaktu
>> menginstall program2 tersebut, karena untuk menginstall keyloggerpun 
>> nggak
>> akan mungkin.
>>
>>
>> ***
>> Freware itu kan lisensi juga. Ya tinggal tunjukin aja sama Admin LAN 
>> anda,
>> bahwa aplikasi yang anda mau pasang itu adalah lisensi Freeware. Anda mau
>> bypass juga percuma. Kalau suatu saat mereka menjalankan audit software,
> ada
>> 3 kemungkinan:
>> 1. Software yang anda pasang akan dibuang
>> 2. Anda dapat peringatan karena install software tanpa izin
>> 3. Anda dapat peringatan dan software freeware anda dibuang.
>>
>> Ada untungnya untuk anda?
>> 
>>
>> Salam
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Re: [ITCENTER] komunikasi lewat lan

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interchat
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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] komunikasi lewat lan


> hehehhe utalk g freeware yachhh ...meski hari gini aku masih tetap nyari 
> yang gratis :)
>
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> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
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> On 12/28/05 at 7:37 PM Budhi Setiawan wrote:
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>>coba utalk mas di google aja dulu, mirip dgn YM tapi buat LAN
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>>yudi ismanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Dear's IT ers
>>ada nggak software yg bisa membuat kita mampu berkomunikasi lewat LAN 
>>lokal,kayak YM
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Re: [ITCENTER] Driver Generic untuk Bluetooth

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pk bawaan xp aja pak, biar digital assign oleh xpnya. saya install pk 
bawaan/aslinya driver bluetootnya malah ga bisa konek pak.

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Subject: [ITCENTER] Driver Generic untuk Bluetooth


> Dear teman-teman semua,
>
> Saya punya bluetooth dongle USB, udah lama banget gak dipake, skrg baru mo
> dipake lagi, tapi drivernya udah gak tau kemana. Di donglenya sendiri gak
> tertulis merk atau tipe apapun, hanya tulis "bluetooth" doang :( Ada gak 
> ya
> driver generic untuk bluetooth dongle ini? Seperti flashdisk di win98 kan
> ada tuh driver generiknya. Mohon bantuan.
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> Terima kasih banyak.
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> Best regards,
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Re: [ITCENTER] Beli Font

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setau saya font itu banyak yg gratis kok pak, googling aja

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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: [ITCENTER] Beli Font


>
>
> Ada yang tahu di mana saya bisa beli font, sbb:
>
>
>
> 1. Interstate True Type Font Family Pack (Bereau) 2 unit.
> 2. Sabon True Type Font Volume (Adobe) 2 unit
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> Bagi yang menjual (legal) mohon penawarannya via Japri.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Dual Boot: DOS & Windows XP

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pengalaman, edit system.ini dan win.ini nya. masukkan script untuk 
filebuffer (tp saya lupa itungannya) bisa di liat di buku2 lama or tanya 
lg ma yg lain..

itu fungsinya agar program tersebut bisa sinkron dgn os xp yg 32/64 bit. 
(dos 16 bit)

CMIIW

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> Hei all... Gimana ya caranya buat dual boot utk DOS dan Windows XP? Saya 
> punya program DOS yg tidak bisa dijalankan dari Windows XP. Mohon 
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Re: [ITCENTER] MS-DOS 6.22 downloadnya dimana

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nginstall xp masih pk fdisk? bukannya bootablenya langsung baca partisi hd, 
dan bisa melakukan apa yg fdisk bisa lakukan, tanpa restart lagi.. :D

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] MS-DOS 6.22 downloadnya dimana


> bootdisk.com
> SOL
>
> On 12/26/05, Merdy Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> komputer gw lagi lag nih
>> XP nya error pengen gw
>> format ulang pake fdisk
>> ms-dos ver 62.2.Download nya dimana Sih??
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Re: [ITCENTER] Core Speed Notebook tidak sesuai

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spped notebook setau saya bisa diatur dengan mengatur suplly power. notebook 
akan mengatur sendiri speednya berdasarkan resource power dia. cb bpk 
setting lagi untuk power management di control panelnya.

nnt bapak bandingkan jika bapak lansung menggunakan ac adapter dgn 
menggunakan batere bawaan notebook. cb liat di system properties>general

moga membantu.

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Subject: [ITCENTER] Core Speed Notebook tidak sesuai


> Halo rekan milis semua,
> Saya punya notebook Toshiba Portege M200 yang speknya Centrino 1,8 Ghz. 
> Saya merasa notebook ini prosesnya lambat dan setelah say cek dengan CPU Z 
> dan cek dengan melihat Properties My Computer, disana core speednya cuma 
> 598 Mhz.
> Bagaimana agar performa notebook tersebut bisa kembali seperti semula 
> sesuai dengan speed prosesornya karena saya cek via bios tidak ada 
> konfigurasi untuk itu?
> Terimakasih atas bantuan rekan milis semua.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Anti Virus

[annas]

waktu gw kerja sih pk sym*nt*c corporate edition, sekarang dah ver 10. itu 
systemnya client server. banyak feature deh. cukup aman sejak pakai itu.

rgds,

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Subject: RE: [ITCENTER] Anti Virus


> Trendmicro ?
>
> Wah setuju tuh . Client saya byk pake Antivirus tersebut. Updatenya
> bagus, manajemennya juga Oke 
>
> Utomo-
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> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Anti Virus
>
>
> h, semoga ini berguna.
>
>  Antivirus Network & Antivirus Desktop. Mesti ada dua-duanya sih idealnya.
>  Setahu saya Fortigate itu 7 in 1 hardware, antivirusnya utk keluar masuk
> internet. Sedangkan trend micro bisa pilih ada yg desktop, network, mail,
> etc..
>
>  kalo butuhnya ANTIVIRUS doank, mending Trend Micro Enterprise aja.
>
>
> Andri Umar Sidik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Fren Miliser..
>
>
> Gw mo tanya nih, kantor gw lg deploy sistem baru...
> nah ...
> untuk anti virusnya kita lagi bingung milihnya..
> antara pake hardware (fortigate) atow pake software (trend micro)
>
> teman2 gw minta pendapatnya yah
> serta kalo ada yang punya pengalaman di antara keduanya gw minta
> tolong di sharing thx B4
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Re: [ITCENTER] wireless

[annas]

waduh banyak jg masukannya, ty bro...

kan enak kl dah denger komen dari user, dulu kantor gw pk breezecom buatan 
israel, tp kl masalah rusak itu nasib kalee ya :P

btw, ada yg  mo ikutan ? lokasi gw tanjung duren sel, jak bar.

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> Berarti kt Punya cerita berbeda, Dua lokasi Pada waktu yang berbeda kita
> orang pernah pasang intalasi dengan D-Link dan Linksys, sebagai solusi
> untuk tekan cost D-link kita modif sebagai OutDoor, lima bulan kemudian
> komplain masalah radio Wireless yang nge-Hang karena kepanasan pun
> terjadi.. Begonol
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> D-Link, Linksys Memang murah...bro tapi 2 type radio tsb depat panas
> apalagi di modif untuk Outdoor Sering hang krn kepanasan..! itu bisa
> ganggu produktivitas kerja kan, Coba dech Smart bridge & senao Masih
> Terjangkau stamina & performance nya lebih Oke...
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> dear all.
>
> mo nanya produk wireless yg mumpuni, ga banyak trouble, easy use, n
> murah :). mo nyobain bikin rtrw net via wifi. ada yg dah nyoba produk
> dlink? tolong share ya...
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Re: [ITCENTER] Install Windows...

[annas]

ugprade, tiban aja jg bisa, asal jgn diformat dahulu.
nnt ada 2 login. hapus yg bawah.

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> supaya g perlu instal ulang software2nyasaya harus pilih upgrade atau 
> new install pada saat instal windowsnya..?
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Re: [ITCENTER] Driver PCChips M758LMR

[annas]

wah ini 233mmx ya. rada ribet nih nyarinya. www.driverguide.com daftar aja 
gratis kok.


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Subject: [ITCENTER] Driver PCChips M758LMR


> Ada yang punya VGA Driver (onboard) untuk ;
> Mainboard Merk: PCCHIPS
> type: M758LMR ??
>
> tolong donk dikirimin,
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> thank's sebelumnya...
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Re: [ITCENTER] help donk....!!!

[annas]

liat ada chipset yg kebakar ga... 
cari yg sama mb nya

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Subject: [ITCENTER] help donk!!!


>A long December ...bad month of the year...!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Tolong dong kalo ada yang punya info ttg hard drive yang tiba2
> erroren semua data lenyap semua...
> 
> 
> 
> "kisahnya: 
> 
> Computer gw lagi kerja tiba2 muncul bluescreen
> 
> Gw reboot.. and bad luck is killing me..!!!
> 
> Hardisk gw tiba2 gk bisa ke detect lagey...
> 
> Di coba di PC laen sama ajah...hasilnya null... biarpun udah gw bikin
> sebagai slave drive
> 
> 
> 
> Kasih infonya donk...kalo ada yang tau tempat/orang yang bisa benerin HD
> gw
> 
> 
> 
> Males banget kerja dari nol lagey 
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> huhh
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> Pls, I want my files' back :-(
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Re: [ITCENTER] Milis...

[annas]

set dah program PLC, masuk yahoo aja mas. di www.cbn.net.id jg ada listing 
millis
ayo bergerak... :)

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> Hallo rekan Milis..
> tanya nih... ada yang tau tak ya, dimana untuk gabung kemilis kumpulan 
> orang- orang pemrograman PLC ( Program Logic Control )
> baik itu program Siemens, Omron, LG, Mitsubishi ataupun yang lainnya.
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> trim banget..
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Re: [ITCENTER] Need Help About Security

[annas]

http://www.e-spy-software.com
jgn tanya crack nya ya :D

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> Hallo..rekan..
> Minta info software yg bisa dijadikan sebagai track system (Log),
> seperti Audit System yg ada di W2K ??
> 
> ** Contoh Client Buka apa, Hapus apa, Log jam berapa dst
> ** Keylogger, tp itu per user kan ?
> 
> Yang bisa di kontrol dari pusat saja, ga perlu per client.
> Kita belum sempat cari2 di google..
> 
> 1 Server W2K, Client 60 PC dengan 2 Shift yg berbeda. Total 120 org
> gonta-ganti.
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> Tenkyu...
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Re: [ITCENTER] Sony Handycamp DCR-PC55E Driver For XP

[annas]

http://esupport.sony.com/perl/model-swu.pl?mdl=DCRPC55

googling itu bikin sehat lohh...:) btw ga perlu driver tuh


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> Alloo 
> Ada yang tau driver Handycamp DCR-PC55E Driver For XP
> (Sony) atau harus download dimn yachh
> Ditunggu informasinya...
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Re: [ITCENTER] Serial Number Win 2000 Advance Server

[annas]

lah lu bisa ngirim email, brarti bisa konek inet dong. jangan males bro, 
googling sedikit.
just info www.serialz.to mungkin bisa membantu

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> Minta tolong dong...IIS gue kan rusak..Banyak yang Recomend untuk instal 
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Re: [ITCENTER] tanya Smart UPS 2200i APC dan server 2003.

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ada console pada upsnya, install aplikasi bawaannya, atau buka settingannya 
pada control panel>power management. bapak bisa setting dsitu.

semoga membantu

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> Tanya bagaimana caranya di windows server 2003 untuk setting smart UPS 
> agar
> saat UPS dari yang kita setting atomatis shutdown dan start-up. Saat
> start-up UPS otomatis CPU juga langsung hidup menjalankan booting ulang.
> Sementara ini kalau setelah start-up UPS kita manual pencet tombol power 
> di
> CPU.
>
> Thank's
>
> Rencananya tanpa kita otak-atik lagi, ups & server kita kasih job mati jam
> 20.00 hidup 07.00.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya tentang IP Publik

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1. bisa, tp penggunaan adsl limited dijadikan server, sebentar aja bapak dah 
limited. cari alternatif lainnya pa, misal pk kabel modem. aksesnya 
unlimited walau speednya standart. IP nya tinggal di registerin dgn 
domainnya. pada server.
2. googling aja pak untuk advaced server cb cari di www.ilmukomputer.com
3. cb buka url diatas.

moga membantu
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Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: [ITCENTER] Tanya tentang IP Publik


> Dear Folks,
>
>  Aku punya beberapa pertanyaan dan mohon sharingnya.
>  Saat ini aku punya 2 IP publik yang belum digunakan, rencananya aku mau 
> buat website dengan IP tersebut. Pertanyaannya:
>
>  1. Apakah bisa webservernya ditempatkan dirumah aku dengan akses internet 
> telkom speedy limited 256Kbps, Modem ADSL Alleyd Telesyn. Servernya 
> sendiri sudah ready dengan ups. kalo bisa gimana setting Modemnya yang 
> router integratted ini?
>
>  2. Aku lagi perlu domain name untuk website ini, aku dengar domain name 
> .info gratis ya? bisa register dimana ya? berikutnya kalau mau translasi 
> domain name dari IP publik katakan xxx.xxx.xx.xx ke nama domain katakan 
> www.tanya.info diserver os advance server 2000 gimana ya?
>
>  3. Ada tutorial ngga ya mengenai management IP seperti pertanyaan saya 
> diatas.
>
>  Sebelumnya saya ucapkan terima-kasih. Bagi it'ers yang merayakan NATAL 
> saya ucapkan selama Natal dan selamat menyongsong Tahun baru buat semua, 
> semoga tahun depan milis ini tambah bermanfaat bagi kemajuan it di tanah 
> air.
>
>  Salam,
>  Rioranti
>  IT Support
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya tentang service harddisk SCSI

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berkemungkinan mb hd nya jebol pa. liat apa ada chipset yg terbakar. cb 
ganti dgn type mb yg sama.

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> Saya minta tolong dong, ada ngga ya yang tau dimana service harddisk SCSI?
> Waktu listrik mati komputer masih jalan, begitu nyala lagi harddisk SCSI
> saya tiba2 ngga mau nyala sama sekali dan ngga bisa didetect sama BIOS, 
> tapi
> power/lampu di harddisk masih nyala. Mungkin ada yang bisa bantu?
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[ITCENTER] wireless

[annas]

dear all. 

mo nanya produk wireless yg mumpuni, ga banyak trouble, easy use, n murah :). 
mo nyobain bikin rtrw net via wifi. ada yg dah nyoba produk dlink? tolong share 
ya...

rgds
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Re: [ITCENTER] Software Lan Meeting

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kl ga perlu pk server n cam gw pk interchat3 nih. basicnya pk ipx/spx.

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Subject: [ITCENTER] Software Lan Meeting


> Dear Friends,
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> 
> Ada yang tahu Software LAN Meeting  yang bagus ?
> 
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> Thks.  Banyak Friends.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: disable password bios

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kl pusing nyarinya jumpernya, cabut batere cmosnya. :D

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Re: disable password bios


> reset setingan BIOS nya aja , clear CMOS , liat lokasi clear nya di buku
> panduan Board nya, untuk board yang support P IV biasanya sudah dilengkapi
> dg jumper nya
>
> salam
>
> ---Original Message---
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 12/20/05 23:48:27
> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Re: disable password bios
>
> cabu aja batt cmos buat reset password biosnya...
>
>
>
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> "firdy_wibowo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com
> 12/20/2005 12:34 PM
> Please respond to
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> To
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> --- In ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com, "Supriyadi S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> rekan2 it-ers,
>>   saya mo tanya nich. ada yang tau gak cara disable password di
> setup bios. soalnya saya lupa pass nya tuch :)
>>
>>   thx, before.
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Re: [ITCENTER] situs regedit

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kl yg ngasih tau semuanya beli buku aja pak. drpd capek2 googling.

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Subject: [ITCENTER] situs regedit


> alooo rekan2 ITCENTER semua, aku mo nanya nih ada gak
> situs yang spesial ngasih tau kita tentang
> regedit?
> 
> Ikuti Lomba Foto Wisata 2005, kirimkan foto-foto terbaik Anda. Pengiriman 
> mulai 1 November s.d 31 Desember 2005. Keterangan lengkap ada di 
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Re: [ITCENTER] OOT: Bell / Sinyal

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kl pk komputer sih ga susah nih, seperti aplikasi azan tg real time, bisa di 
atur wilayahnya. cb googling pa, cari softwarenya. masalah kekerasan suara 
hingga 100 m tinggal pasang ampli TOA aja pak.

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> Hi all,
> Ada yg bisa bantu saya untuk buatkan bell dg micro controller atau cara
> lainnya. Atau mungkin ada diantara rekan2x yg jual bell tsb?
> Cara kerja alat yg diinginkan kira2x begini :
> 1. bunyi bell yg diingini : nada bell disertai dg suara org utk
> pengumuman/peringatan. Nada bell bisa didengar dari jarak 100M
> 2. bell nyala sesuai dengan setingan waktu yg bisa diatur utk beberapa 
> kali
> dalam sehari (15X/hari)
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> Jika ada yg bisa silahkan hub. saya di 0815-9804788 (butuh cepat).
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Re: [ITCENTER] Informasi tempat penjualan Memory SDRAM 128 MB (40 unit)

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langsung meluncur k harco mangga 2 aja pak.
banyak pilihannya.

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Subject: [ITCENTER] Informasi tempat penjualan Memory SDRAM 128 MB (40 unit)


> Mohon bantuan rekan-rekan,
> Ada yang tahu tempat penjualan Memory SDRAM 128 bekas, perlu 40 unit.
> Terima kasih.
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Re: [ITCENTER] NVIDIA

[annas]

upgrade detonator nvidianya, setauku skarang seri 77.77.
setting xpnya di minimalisin, kl mau ada 2 booting system. driver asus cari 
d asus.com mas. pasti ada kok. cm sabar servernya rada lemot.

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] NVIDIA


> tambah ram
> sol
>
> On 12/22/05, @ TheEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Mau tny neh bos,,,
>>
>>   Gw pake PIV vga gforce 128, ram 256 mb  u/ maen nfs most wanted,trus
>> kadang2 suka rada berat bacanya...apa perlu ganti vganya or hanya tambah 
>> ram
>> aja...???
>>
>>   MB Asus P4SDX driver gw hilang,truz gw download byk bgtTolong donk
>> nama  u/ drivernya biar bs gw downloadThx
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Re: [ITCENTER] Driver flasdisk universal win98

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kl konek ma internet ga pusing seeh. biar dia nyari sendiri.
:)
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: [ITCENTER] Driver flasdisk universal win98


> On 12/21/05, Indri anto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thank atas masukannya dari rekan-rekan semua,
>>
>>  Masalahnya ini kompie Direktur saya...he..he..he pusing enggak, ini 
>> berawal gara - gara ada rekan Bisnisnya yg bawa data di FlashDisk, karena 
>> kompie Doi OS nya masih Win98Se padahal spec kompienya P4 1.5 GHz Mem 256 
>> MB, tetapi dia memang lebih nyaman pake WIN98SE karena katanya enggak 
>> pernah bermasalah, nah maslah pas rekannya minta di print nin data yg ada 
>> di Flash Disk karena harus minta driver segala jadi ribet karena enggak 
>> ada drivernya, meskipun akhirnya bisa di print di komputer saya, tapi dia 
>> tetep minta OS nya di ganti XP jadi kalo ada rekan Bisnisnya yg bawa 
>> FlashDisk enggak malu ..., tapi saya yg repot jadinya
>>
>>
>
> Saya pernah pake pc teman yg ber-OS win98. Saya bawa flasdisk dan
> tancapkan langsung detect dan berfungsi normal. Menurutnya di PC tsb
> sudah dipasang utility untuk membaca semua flasdisk, jd tdk perlu
> install driver.
>
> Sayang ketika saya minta softwarenya dia ga punya, katanya dulu
> diinstallkan oleh temennya. Saya googling juga belum nemu.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Anti Virus

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nav2006 atau zonealarm
cari di www.takdownload.com

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> boz...anti virus yg mantabs apa..
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Re: [ITCENTER] Ada yg punya artikel atau tutorial ssl?

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> Dear All,
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> Ada yg bisa ngasi petunjuk soal ssl ga? aku pengen bikin skripsi ttg e 
> shop,
> cm bingung soal CA dan SSL nya. Aku pake PHP Mysql, bagi yg punya tutorial
> lengkap, artikel, link dsb, harap bantuin saya pleasee...
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Re: [ITCENTER] email server dengan fetchmail

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ya tinggal bikin mail server (mailexchange). std dari windows jg ada. 
aplikasi lainnya jg banyak kok. main2 k glodok dan sekitarnya lah.

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] email server dengan fetchmail


> Mungkin maksudnya begini kali Pak Yanu.
>
> Dia memiliki email di salah satu ISP. Dahulu user di kantor dia langsung
> narik dari ISP tersebut. Sekarang dia maunya, semua email dari ISP 
> tersebut
> ditarik ke dalam email server kantor, dan user tinggal menarik email
> tersebut secara lokal.
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> Mungkin begitu kali ya?
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> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: RE: [ITCENTER] email server dengan fetchmail
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>> 1. saya bingung urutan masalahnya
>> 2. tolong diperjelas masalahnya dan apa yang diinginkann !?
>>
>> regards
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of qpass
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:38 AM
>> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [ITCENTER] email server dengan fetchmail
>>
>>
>> Mohon informasinya, sya punya kasus spt ini. Sya punya account email si
>> slah
>> satu isp, selama ini user langsung narik email ke isp.
>> gimana caranya supanya email tsb saya tarik ke salah satu server email 
>> dan
>> user tinggal mengambil di lokal server terebut...?
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Re: [ITCENTER] Langganan Internet untuk sekolah

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daerah mana pak???

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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: [ITCENTER] Langganan Internet untuk sekolah


> Rekan-rekan ada yang tahu apakah ada paket langganan internet untuk 
> sekolah
> (SD) dari Telkom, soalnya tempat saya belum ada provider lain. Saya tadi
> telepon ke 147, nggak ada kejelasan, suruh ke Plasa langsung aja.
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> Salam
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