RE: GUI Application

2001-09-12 Thread BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1)

How can I start my applicative using xinit?
The JVM from IBM have any constraints with using in a commercial
product?
Thanks for your help.

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From: Oktay Akbal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: quarta-feira, 12 de setembro de 2001 3:33
To: BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1)
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Subject: Re: GUI Application


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) wrote:

>   Hi,
>   I want to run a java GUI application in a bootable CD with Linux, I
> have already in this bootable CD:
>   I want to know want kind of Window Manager I have to install (Gnome,
> KDE, TWM, other) and want kind of applicative I have to install to start
the
> java app.
>   I'm using the jre 1.3.1 from Sun, there is another jvm that I can
> use to improve (performance, size, etc.) my CD?

We have one Application running on TouchScreen with Xfree86 without
WindowManager. The application was started directly with xinit.
In your case you could use JRE1.3 from IBM which is smaller than JRE from
sun. But this might be, because sun has additional classes in their JRE.

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Faking out an app that requires a GUI

2001-09-12 Thread Jim Caley

It seems like a year or two ago I saw some sort of utility mentioned on this
mailing list that could be used to "fake out" a text-based app that still needed
to have a GUI display available.  (Was it that some of the Swing classes wanted
the graphical display or something?  I can't remember.)

I'm not finding this in the archives.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Thanks,
Jim


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Re: Faking out an app that requires a GUI

2001-09-12 Thread Joi Ellis

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Jim Caley wrote:

> It seems like a year or two ago I saw some sort of utility mentioned on this
> mailing list that could be used to "fake out" a text-based app that still needed
> to have a GUI display available.  (Was it that some of the Swing classes wanted
> the graphical display or something?  I can't remember.)
>
> I'm not finding this in the archives.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

I'll guess that you're thinking of the xvfb (virtual frame buffer)
X11 server which allows apps which manipulate fonts and/or images without
using a physical display device.  It comes up on headless web servers
which want to generate dynamic gifs (hit counters) or whatever.
The image/font manipulation stuff won't load without an X11 display, so
xvfb is used to provide those resources without using an actual device.

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Re: Faking out an app that requires a GUI

2001-09-12 Thread ed phillips

Are you referring, Jim, to an Expect like feature set for Java.

Is there such a set of classes?  Perl has an Expect module. Hmmm

Ed


Joi Ellis wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Jim Caley wrote:
> 
> > It seems like a year or two ago I saw some sort of utility mentioned on this
> > mailing list that could be used to "fake out" a text-based app that still needed
> > to have a GUI display available.  (Was it that some of the Swing classes wanted
> > the graphical display or something?  I can't remember.)
> >
> > I'm not finding this in the archives.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
> 
> I'll guess that you're thinking of the xvfb (virtual frame buffer)
> X11 server which allows apps which manipulate fonts and/or images without
> using a physical display device.  It comes up on headless web servers
> which want to generate dynamic gifs (hit counters) or whatever.
> The image/font manipulation stuff won't load without an X11 display, so
> xvfb is used to provide those resources without using an actual device.
> 
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> 
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> really like about Linux is that it has Microsoft worried.  Anything
> that kicks a monopoly in the pants has got to be good for something.
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Re: Faking out an app that requires a GUI

2001-09-12 Thread Nathan Meyers

On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:25:00PM -0700, ed phillips wrote:
> Are you referring, Jim, to an Expect like feature set for Java.
> 
> Is there such a set of classes?  Perl has an Expect module. Hmmm

Joi's recommendation for xvfb is the right one. The Linux/Unix AWT always
expects an X server even if you never create a window. Xvfb is a fully
functional X server, but one whose "display" is in memory rather than
a physical display device - exactly what you need to run AWT code on
a server.

Nathan


> Ed
> 
> 
> Joi Ellis wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Jim Caley wrote:
> > 
> > > It seems like a year or two ago I saw some sort of utility mentioned on this
> > > mailing list that could be used to "fake out" a text-based app that still needed
> > > to have a GUI display available.  (Was it that some of the Swing classes wanted
> > > the graphical display or something?  I can't remember.)
> > >
> > > I'm not finding this in the archives.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
> > 
> > I'll guess that you're thinking of the xvfb (virtual frame buffer)
> > X11 server which allows apps which manipulate fonts and/or images without
> > using a physical display device.  It comes up on headless web servers
> > which want to generate dynamic gifs (hit counters) or whatever.
> > The image/font manipulation stuff won't load without an X11 display, so
> > xvfb is used to provide those resources without using an actual device.
> > 
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> > 
> > No matter what we think of Linux versus FreeBSD, etc., the one thing I
> > really like about Linux is that it has Microsoft worried.  Anything
> > that kicks a monopoly in the pants has got to be good for something.
> >- Chris Johnson
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