Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Alex K.
*Chris*

בתאריך 28 בנוב' 2016 10:08 PM,‏ "Alex K."  כתב:

> Thank you Tim,
>
> But it's not as easy. There seems to be no easy explanation, hence I'm
> interested in a trace option that will shed a little bit more light, on how
> EX process the packet.
>
> בתאריך 28 בנוב' 2016 9:53 PM,‏ "Chris Morrow" 
> כתב:
>
>> At Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:17:41 +,
>> "Alex K."  wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you Tim and Chris,
>> >
>> > But correct me if I'm wrong - those are not quite the same thing.
>> >
>> > There's no doubt packets are reaching the box (I have PC connected
>> directly
>> > to the switch).
>> >
>> > The difference between traffic monitoring/mirroring and Ciscos' debug,
>> is
>> > that with debug you follow the path a packet takes.
>> >
>> > Traffic monitoring can be a really helpful first step (as I've said,
>> there
>> > virtually no doubt the packets are reaching the RE), but my question is
>> > about - what's next?
>> >
>> > Assumed you see only echo requsts and no replies (by "monitor traffic",
>> for
>> > example), is there is a trace option to show why an EX decided it
>> shouldn't
>> > answer with reply (from its own address)?
>>
>> honestly it's not that hard to tell what went wrong:
>>   1) route back to the source is broken/unknown
>>   b) loopback filter dropped inbound packet
>>   z) ... that's it.
>>
>> or that's been my experience.
>>
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Alex K.
Thank you Tim,

But it's not as easy. There seems to be no easy explanation, hence I'm
interested in a trace option that will shed a little bit more light, on how
EX process the packet.

בתאריך 28 בנוב' 2016 9:53 PM,‏ "Chris Morrow"  כתב:

> At Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:17:41 +,
> "Alex K."  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Tim and Chris,
> >
> > But correct me if I'm wrong - those are not quite the same thing.
> >
> > There's no doubt packets are reaching the box (I have PC connected
> directly
> > to the switch).
> >
> > The difference between traffic monitoring/mirroring and Ciscos' debug, is
> > that with debug you follow the path a packet takes.
> >
> > Traffic monitoring can be a really helpful first step (as I've said,
> there
> > virtually no doubt the packets are reaching the RE), but my question is
> > about - what's next?
> >
> > Assumed you see only echo requsts and no replies (by "monitor traffic",
> for
> > example), is there is a trace option to show why an EX decided it
> shouldn't
> > answer with reply (from its own address)?
>
> honestly it's not that hard to tell what went wrong:
>   1) route back to the source is broken/unknown
>   b) loopback filter dropped inbound packet
>   z) ... that's it.
>
> or that's been my experience.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Chris Morrow
At Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:17:41 +,
"Alex K."  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Tim and Chris,
> 
> But correct me if I'm wrong - those are not quite the same thing.
> 
> There's no doubt packets are reaching the box (I have PC connected directly
> to the switch).
> 
> The difference between traffic monitoring/mirroring and Ciscos' debug, is
> that with debug you follow the path a packet takes.
> 
> Traffic monitoring can be a really helpful first step (as I've said, there
> virtually no doubt the packets are reaching the RE), but my question is
> about - what's next?
> 
> Assumed you see only echo requsts and no replies (by "monitor traffic", for
> example), is there is a trace option to show why an EX decided it shouldn't
> answer with reply (from its own address)?

honestly it's not that hard to tell what went wrong:
  1) route back to the source is broken/unknown
  b) loopback filter dropped inbound packet
  z) ... that's it.

or that's been my experience.
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Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Alex K.
Thank you Tim and Chris,

But correct me if I'm wrong - those are not quite the same thing.

There's no doubt packets are reaching the box (I have PC connected directly
to the switch).

The difference between traffic monitoring/mirroring and Ciscos' debug, is
that with debug you follow the path a packet takes.

Traffic monitoring can be a really helpful first step (as I've said, there
virtually no doubt the packets are reaching the RE), but my question is
about - what's next?

Assumed you see only echo requsts and no replies (by "monitor traffic", for
example), is there is a trace option to show why an EX decided it shouldn't
answer with reply (from its own address)?

בתאריך 28 בנוב' 2016 8:45 PM,‏ "Tim Jackson"  כתב:

> monitor traffic interface ge-0/0/0 size  no-resolve layer2-headers
> extensive
>
> --
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Alex K.  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> By any chance - is there an equivalent for Ciscos' "debug ip packet"
>> command in Juniper?
>>
>> I'm fully aware that there is a complete distinction between forwarding
>> layer and control layer, in those devices - But,  I'm taking specifically
>> about traffic TARGETING the box itself.
>>
>> I'm troubleshooting a strange behavior by Juniper EX line. It's a compex
>> topology but the issue is very simple: under certain circumstances, an EX
>> stop responding even to pings to its own addresses, even from directly
>> connected interfaces.
>>
>> I'm fully aware that I can mirror a port on those machines (and such), but
>> mirroring alone, will not answer the million dollar question - why?
>>
>> Since there is no doubt that packets are reaching the box (packets don't
>> leak from a directly connected cable, with PC on its other end) - I was
>> hoping, Juniper might have provided us with a trace option, for following
>> the packet inside the box?
>>
>> Anyone know such trace option?
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions will be welcomed.
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Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Tim Jackson
monitor traffic interface ge-0/0/0 size  no-resolve layer2-headers
extensive

--
Tim

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Alex K.  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> By any chance - is there an equivalent for Ciscos' "debug ip packet"
> command in Juniper?
>
> I'm fully aware that there is a complete distinction between forwarding
> layer and control layer, in those devices - But,  I'm taking specifically
> about traffic TARGETING the box itself.
>
> I'm troubleshooting a strange behavior by Juniper EX line. It's a compex
> topology but the issue is very simple: under certain circumstances, an EX
> stop responding even to pings to its own addresses, even from directly
> connected interfaces.
>
> I'm fully aware that I can mirror a port on those machines (and such), but
> mirroring alone, will not answer the million dollar question - why?
>
> Since there is no doubt that packets are reaching the box (packets don't
> leak from a directly connected cable, with PC on its other end) - I was
> hoping, Juniper might have provided us with a trace option, for following
> the packet inside the box?
>
> Anyone know such trace option?
>
>
> Any suggestions will be welcomed.
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Re: [j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Chris Morrow
At Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:43:02 +,
"Alex K."  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> By any chance - is there an equivalent for Ciscos' "debug ip packet"
> command in Juniper?
> 

monitor packet ...

or start shell - su - tcpdump
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[j-nsp] Debug ip packet equivalent for directed at RE traffic

2016-11-28 Thread Alex K.
Hello everyone,

By any chance - is there an equivalent for Ciscos' "debug ip packet"
command in Juniper?

I'm fully aware that there is a complete distinction between forwarding
layer and control layer, in those devices - But,  I'm taking specifically
about traffic TARGETING the box itself.

I'm troubleshooting a strange behavior by Juniper EX line. It's a compex
topology but the issue is very simple: under certain circumstances, an EX
stop responding even to pings to its own addresses, even from directly
connected interfaces.

I'm fully aware that I can mirror a port on those machines (and such), but
mirroring alone, will not answer the million dollar question - why?

Since there is no doubt that packets are reaching the box (packets don't
leak from a directly connected cable, with PC on its other end) - I was
hoping, Juniper might have provided us with a trace option, for following
the packet inside the box?

Anyone know such trace option?


Any suggestions will be welcomed.
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