Re: [j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-29 Thread snort bsd
It does make sense though. Say one megabits interface with 20 VLANs. In that 
scenario, every VLAN, usually has own link-local address. It is more practical 
than "multiple interfaces with same link-local address."

I found this on Juniper router and now assume it is Juniper specific 
implementation.

Thanks all

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From: Scott Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 12:36:55 PM
Subject: RE: IPv6 questions


And unless you are on only certain particular devices (e.g. L3
 switches)
then the end device won't necessarily have any relevant clue what VLAN
 it's
on.

I have never seen/heard of an RFC for it either and would certainly
 wonder
"WHY?".  :)

Scott 

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 Erik
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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:44 PM
To: snort bsd
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Subject: Re: IPv6 questions


snort bsd wrote:
> Never mind
> 
> it is the VLAN number. But which RFC define this? 

I've never seen an IPv6 RFC specify to put the VLAN number in the
 link-local
address.
Thus this must be an (odd) choice made by some implementation. Perhaps
 the
implementation somehow requires that all the link-local addresses for
 all
its (sub)interfaces be unique, even though the RFCs assume that the
implementation should be able to deal with multiple interfaces with
 same
same link-local address.

Erik

> Thanks all
> 
> Dave
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: snort bsd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp 
> Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 3:05:59 PM
> Subject: IPv6 questions
> 
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64  
> address format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the  
> conversion?
> 
> With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp  
> interfaces. But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to 
> follow  that pattern:
> 
> Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 
> 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d
> 
> well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64.
>  actually, it shows:
> 
> Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d
> 
> how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?
> 
> Thanks all
> 
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Re: [j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-29 Thread Scott Morris
And unless you are on only certain particular devices (e.g. L3 switches)
then the end device won't necessarily have any relevant clue what VLAN it's
on.

I have never seen/heard of an RFC for it either and would certainly wonder
"WHY?".  :)

Scott 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
Nordmark
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:44 PM
To: snort bsd
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: IPv6 questions


snort bsd wrote:
> Never mind
> 
> it is the VLAN number. But which RFC define this? 

I've never seen an IPv6 RFC specify to put the VLAN number in the link-local
address.
Thus this must be an (odd) choice made by some implementation. Perhaps the
implementation somehow requires that all the link-local addresses for all
its (sub)interfaces be unique, even though the RFCs assume that the
implementation should be able to deal with multiple interfaces with same
same link-local address.

Erik

> Thanks all
> 
> Dave
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: snort bsd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp 
> Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 3:05:59 PM
> Subject: IPv6 questions
> 
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64  
> address format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the  
> conversion?
> 
> With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp  
> interfaces. But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to 
> follow  that pattern:
> 
> Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 
> 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d
> 
> well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64.
>  actually, it shows:
> 
> Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d
> 
> how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?
> 
> Thanks all
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-28 Thread snort bsd
Never mind

it is the VLAN number. But which RFC define this? 

Thanks all

Dave

- Original Message 
From: snort bsd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 3:05:59 PM
Subject: IPv6 questions


Hi All:

With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64
 address format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the
 conversion?

With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp
 interfaces. But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to follow
 that pattern:

Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d

well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64.
 actually, it shows:

Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d

how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?

Thanks all








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[j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-28 Thread snort bsd
Hi All:

With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64 address 
format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the conversion?

With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp interfaces. 
But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to follow that pattern:

Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d

well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64. actually, 
it shows:

Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d

how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?

Thanks all








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