Re: [j-nsp] SRX secure wire and layer 2 pdus

2015-04-28 Thread Ben Dale
Hi Ross,

On 29 Apr 2015, at 1:43 am, Ross Vandegrift  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> The documentation for SRX secure wire has thrown me for a loop.  It
> says: secure wire is a kind of transparent mode, and transparent mode
> interfaces pass all ARP and non-IP broadcast/multicast.  So a secure
> wire should pass BPDUs and LACPDUs.
> 
> I think that's a mistake.  If both secure wire interfaces land on the
> same switch, RSTP/MSTP ought to block one of the interfaces.  Separate
> switches won't help if both are multihomed to common distribution
> switches.  The secure wire will look like two edge interfaces were
> cabled together, and RSTP/MSTP will block.
> 
> I setup a test with two ex4200s and a secure wire between them.  No
> BPDUs or LACPDUs make it across.  Seems good, but now I'm nervous
> that the behavior doesn't match the documentation.
> 
> Have I missed something?  Case is open, but it stalled at the repeat
> the documentation stage.
> 
> https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3x48/topics/concept/layer-2-secure-wire-understanding.html
> 
> Ross
> 

The doco needs a slight update (or better yet, a cross-reference) to the link 
below.  

In the documentation for Transparent Mode, it mentions the Layer 2 bridging 
exceptions on SRX that apply when using a bridge-domain for transparent-mode, 
which is the same method SecureWire uses for tying interfaces together.

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos11.4/information-products/topic-collections/security/software-all/layer-2/index.html?topic-52744.html

You'll see there that xSTP is specifically called out.

Cheers,

Ben
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[j-nsp] SRX secure wire and layer 2 pdus

2015-04-28 Thread Ross Vandegrift

Hi all,

The documentation for SRX secure wire has thrown me for a loop.  It
says: secure wire is a kind of transparent mode, and transparent mode
interfaces pass all ARP and non-IP broadcast/multicast.  So a secure
wire should pass BPDUs and LACPDUs.

I think that's a mistake.  If both secure wire interfaces land on the
same switch, RSTP/MSTP ought to block one of the interfaces.  Separate
switches won't help if both are multihomed to common distribution
switches.  The secure wire will look like two edge interfaces were
cabled together, and RSTP/MSTP will block.

I setup a test with two ex4200s and a secure wire between them.  No
BPDUs or LACPDUs make it across.  Seems good, but now I'm nervous
that the behavior doesn't match the documentation.

Have I missed something?  Case is open, but it stalled at the repeat
the documentation stage.

https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3x48/topics/concept/layer-2-secure-wire-understanding.html

Ross

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