Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
Besides brushing up via PDFs, techpubs, and printed books, I'd encourage anyone making purchases to ensure that their account team is including Juniper training credits in the deal at no charge. Compared to the cost of most Juniper gear, training credits are c-h-e-a-p, and the quality of the training is outstanding in my experience. It's in your rep's best interest to include it, since it'll get you trained up on their gear quickly and make it more likely that you'll purchase more. Maybe everyone is already doing this, but if not, give it a think. David On 21 September 2010 17:56, Stefan Fouant wrote: > I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Fasttrack web site is > chock full of useful information - http://www.juniper.net/fasttrack > > And Pam Van Meter's book on Junos Fundamentals is coming out in just a few > short months. > > Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2 > www.shortestpathfirst.net > GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D > > > -Original Message- > > From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp- > > boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith > > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:28 PM > > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: [j-nsp] Study books. > > > > Hi. > > > > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. > > > > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked > > harder > > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. > > > > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. > > > > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of > > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant > > enough to > > warrant purchasing them? > > > > Anyone have books they want to recommend? > > > > Thanks, > > Keith > > > > ___ > > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Fasttrack web site is chock full of useful information - http://www.juniper.net/fasttrack And Pam Van Meter's book on Junos Fundamentals is coming out in just a few short months. Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2 www.shortestpathfirst.net GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D > -Original Message- > From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp- > boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:28 PM > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [j-nsp] Study books. > > Hi. > > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. > > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked > harder > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. > > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. > > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant > enough to > warrant purchasing them? > > Anyone have books they want to recommend? > > Thanks, > Keith > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
http://www.onfulfillment.com/JuniperTrainingPublic/Category.aspx?d=44&sid=323&sm=d44 There is this too, the official courseware. You can order the courseware without the course. It can be expensive. If you have an SE or RE that can log into this, they can get the books much cheaper... you might be able to work something out with them. From: Keith To: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 1:27:56 PM Subject: [j-nsp] Study books. Hi. We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough to warrant purchasing them? Anyone have books they want to recommend? Thanks, Keith ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 14:31, Smith W. Stacy wrote: > On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Evan Williams wrote: > > > Do they still have the study guides available, they IMHO provided an > excellent resource to develop an understanding of the Juniper Man machine > interface and the approach to the underlying protocols deployed. > > Those books are out of print, but are available for free in PDF format on > the Juniper web site. > > http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/books.html > +1 The JNCIS Study Guide is another great resource - much better than you would expect from a study guide.And you can't beat the price. ;) ~Chris > > --Stacy > > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > -- @ChrisGrundemann weblog.chrisgrundemann.com www.burningwiththebush.com www.coisoc.org ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
On 9/21/2010 12:43 PM, Michael Damkot wrote: Junos is Junos, the command structure hasn't really changed significantly since 4.0 If you're protocol savvy, just novice to how a particular vendor twists knobs, check the e-learning stuff on Juniper site first: http://www.juniper.net:80/us/en/training/technical_education/ I am a novice on Juniper for sure. I have been going over Junipers site for the last few days so am getting some good info there, but some good suggestions have come from the list too. Thanks, Keith ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
Keith, Go directly here dude... http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/technical_education/ ~Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM State Government IT Services Division "We move the information that moves your world." “Good engineering demands that we understand what we’re doing and why, keep an open mind, and learn from experience.” “Engineering is about finding the sweet spot between what's solvable and what isn't." Radia Perlman Please consider the environment before printing e-mail -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:28 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] Study books. Hi. We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough to warrant purchasing them? Anyone have books they want to recommend? Thanks, Keith ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Evan Williams wrote: > Do they still have the study guides available, they IMHO provided an > excellent resource to develop an understanding of the Juniper Man machine > interface and the approach to the underlying protocols deployed. Those books are out of print, but are available for free in PDF format on the Juniper web site. http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/books.html --Stacy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
agreed, Aviva Garrett's book is essential reading,. Do they still have the study guides available, they IMHO provided an excellent resource to develop an understanding of the Juniper Man machine interface and the approach to the underlying protocols deployed. - Original Message - From: "Chris Grundemann" To: "Keith" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Study books. The Day One series of booklets are all quite current: http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one/. They are short, practical guides on many interesting topics and are FREE to download (and cheap to buy in hard copy). [1] For more in-depth info, the best new book is "Network Mergers and Migrations" although it deals primarily with network change, not new deployments. The "Junos Cookbook" is still a great resource. I wrote a more complete list back in February: http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2010/juniper-guru-books/ [2] Cheers, ~Chris Full Disclosure: [1] I wrote a Day One booklet and am currently writing a second. [2] The links on that post are Amazon affiliate links, but I don't get paid from them anymore since I live in CO. I am just too lazy to go back and change the links. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:27, Keith wrote: Hi. We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough to warrant purchasing them? Anyone have books they want to recommend? Thanks, Keith ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- @ChrisGrundemann weblog.chrisgrundemann.com www.burningwiththebush.com www.coisoc.org ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:27:56AM -0700, Keith wrote: > Hi. > > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. > > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked > harder > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. > > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. > > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant > enough to > warrant purchasing them? > http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514426 is fairly recent, and pretty good. > Anyone have books they want to recommend? > > Thanks, > Keith > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
The Day One series of booklets are all quite current: http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one/. They are short, practical guides on many interesting topics and are FREE to download (and cheap to buy in hard copy). [1] For more in-depth info, the best new book is "Network Mergers and Migrations" although it deals primarily with network change, not new deployments. The "Junos Cookbook" is still a great resource. I wrote a more complete list back in February: http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2010/juniper-guru-books/ [2] Cheers, ~Chris Full Disclosure: [1] I wrote a Day One booklet and am currently writing a second. [2] The links on that post are Amazon affiliate links, but I don't get paid from them anymore since I live in CO. I am just too lazy to go back and change the links. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:27, Keith wrote: > Hi. > > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. > > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked > harder > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. > > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. > > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant > enough to > warrant purchasing them? > > Anyone have books they want to recommend? > > Thanks, > Keith > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > -- @ChrisGrundemann weblog.chrisgrundemann.com www.burningwiththebush.com www.coisoc.org ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Study books.
Junos is Junos, the command structure hasn't really changed significantly since 4.0 If you're protocol savvy, just novice to how a particular vendor twists knobs, check the e-learning stuff on Juniper site first: http://www.juniper.net:80/us/en/training/technical_education/ On Sep 21, 2010, at 14:27 , Keith wrote: > Hi. > > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. > > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. > > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. > > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough > to > warrant purchasing them? > > Anyone have books they want to recommend? > > Thanks, > Keith > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] Study books.
Hi. We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1. We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480. Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green. My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough to warrant purchasing them? Anyone have books they want to recommend? Thanks, Keith ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp