Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread David Ball
   Besides brushing up via PDFs, techpubs, and printed books, I'd encourage
anyone making purchases to ensure that their account team is including
Juniper training credits in the deal at no charge.  Compared to the cost of
most Juniper gear, training credits are c-h-e-a-p, and the quality of the
training is outstanding in my experience.  It's in your rep's best interest
to include it, since it'll get you trained up on their gear quickly and make
it more likely that you'll purchase more.

  Maybe everyone is already doing this, but if not, give it a think.

David


On 21 September 2010 17:56, Stefan Fouant wrote:

> I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Fasttrack web site is
> chock full of useful information - http://www.juniper.net/fasttrack
>
> And Pam Van Meter's book on Junos Fundamentals is coming out in just a few
> short months.
>
> Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2
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> > boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [j-nsp] Study books.
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.
> >
> > We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked
> > harder
> > for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.
> >
> > Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.
> >
> > My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
> > the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant
> > enough to
> > warrant purchasing them?
> >
> > Anyone have books they want to recommend?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith
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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Stefan Fouant
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Fasttrack web site is
chock full of useful information - http://www.juniper.net/fasttrack

And Pam Van Meter's book on Junos Fundamentals is coming out in just a few
short months.

Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2
www.shortestpathfirst.net
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> -Original Message-
> From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
> boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [j-nsp] Study books.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.
> 
> We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked
> harder
> for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.
> 
> Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.
> 
> My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
> the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant
> enough to
> warrant purchasing them?
> 
> Anyone have books they want to recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Derick Winkworth
http://www.onfulfillment.com/JuniperTrainingPublic/Category.aspx?d=44&sid=323&sm=d44



There is this too, the official courseware.  You can order the courseware 
without the course.  It can be expensive.  If you have an SE or RE that can log 
into this, they can get the books much cheaper... you might be able to work 
something out with them.







From: Keith 
To: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" 
Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 1:27:56 PM
Subject: [j-nsp] Study books.

Hi.

We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.

We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder
for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.

Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.

My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough to
warrant purchasing them?

Anyone have books they want to recommend?

Thanks,
Keith

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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 14:31, Smith W. Stacy  wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Evan Williams wrote:
>
> > Do they still have the study guides available, they IMHO provided an
> excellent resource to develop an understanding of the Juniper Man machine
> interface and the approach to the underlying protocols deployed.
>
> Those books are out of print, but are available for free in PDF format on
> the Juniper web site.
>
> http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/books.html
>

+1  The JNCIS Study Guide is another great resource - much better than you
would expect from a study guide.And you can't beat the price. ;)
~Chris

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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Keith

On 9/21/2010 12:43 PM, Michael Damkot wrote:

Junos is Junos, the command structure hasn't really changed significantly since 
4.0

If you're protocol savvy, just novice to how a particular vendor twists knobs, 
check the e-learning stuff on Juniper site first:

http://www.juniper.net:80/us/en/training/technical_education/



I am a novice on Juniper for sure. I have been going over Junipers site 
for the last few days so am getting some good info there, but some

good suggestions have come from the list too.

Thanks,
Keith

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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
Keith,

Go directly here dude...
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/technical_education/


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From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keith
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:28 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Study books.

Hi.

We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.

We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked 
harder
for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.

Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.

My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant 
enough to
warrant purchasing them?

Anyone have books they want to recommend?

Thanks,
Keith

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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Smith W. Stacy
On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Evan Williams wrote:

> Do they still have the study guides available, they IMHO provided an 
> excellent resource to develop an understanding of the Juniper Man machine 
> interface and the approach to the underlying protocols deployed.

Those books are out of print, but are available for free in PDF format on the 
Juniper web site.

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/books.html

--Stacy


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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Evan Williams
agreed, Aviva Garrett's book is essential reading,. Do they still have the 
study guides available, they IMHO provided an excellent resource to develop 
an understanding of the Juniper Man machine interface and the approach to 
the underlying protocols deployed.







- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Grundemann" 

To: "Keith" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Study books.



The Day One series of booklets are all quite current:
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one/.
They are short, practical guides on many interesting topics and are FREE 
to

download (and cheap to buy in hard copy). [1]

For more in-depth info, the best new book is "Network Mergers and
Migrations" although it deals primarily with network change, not new
deployments.

The "Junos Cookbook" is still a great resource.

I wrote a more complete list back in February:
http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2010/juniper-guru-books/ [2]

Cheers,
~Chris


Full Disclosure:
[1] I wrote a Day One booklet and am currently writing a second.
[2] The links on that post are Amazon affiliate links, but I don't get 
paid

from them anymore since I live in CO. I am just too lazy to go back and
change the links.



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:27, Keith  wrote:


Hi.

We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.

We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked
harder
for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.

Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.

My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant
enough to
warrant purchasing them?

Anyone have books they want to recommend?

Thanks,
Keith

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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Cian Brennan
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:27:56AM -0700, Keith wrote:
> Hi.
>
> We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.
>
> We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked  
> harder
> for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.
>
> Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.
>
> My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
> the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant  
> enough to
> warrant purchasing them?
>
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514426 is fairly recent, and pretty good.

> Anyone have books they want to recommend?
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Chris Grundemann
The Day One series of booklets are all quite current:
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one/.
They are short, practical guides on many interesting topics and are FREE to
download (and cheap to buy in hard copy). [1]

For more in-depth info, the best new book is "Network Mergers and
Migrations" although it deals primarily with network change, not new
deployments.

The "Junos Cookbook" is still a great resource.

I wrote a more complete list back in February:
http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2010/juniper-guru-books/ [2]

Cheers,
~Chris


Full Disclosure:
[1] I wrote a Day One booklet and am currently writing a second.
[2] The links on that post are Amazon affiliate links, but I don't get paid
from them anymore since I live in CO. I am just too lazy to go back and
change the links.



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:27, Keith  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.
>
> We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked
> harder
> for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.
>
> Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.
>
> My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
> the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant
> enough to
> warrant purchasing them?
>
> Anyone have books they want to recommend?
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
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Re: [j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Michael Damkot
Junos is Junos, the command structure hasn't really changed significantly since 
4.0 

If you're protocol savvy, just novice to how a particular vendor twists knobs, 
check the e-learning stuff on Juniper site first:

http://www.juniper.net:80/us/en/training/technical_education/

On Sep 21, 2010, at 14:27 , Keith wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.
> 
> We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked harder
> for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.
> 
> Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.
> 
> My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
> the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant enough 
> to
> warrant purchasing them?
> 
> Anyone have books they want to recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
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[j-nsp] Study books.

2010-09-21 Thread Keith

Hi.

We just purchased an MX480 to replace our aging 7206vxr-G1.

We spent a few months going back and forth, C or J. In the end J worked 
harder

for our business and ended up with a redundant MX480.

Our only experience was with an M10i five years ago so we are green.

My coworker and I need some new books. Looking at Amazon, most of
the books are at least five years old. Are any of them still relevant 
enough to

warrant purchasing them?

Anyone have books they want to recommend?

Thanks,
Keith

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