Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
I've received 6 24 ports all had 11.4r1 and 2x 48 ports which has 10.4r something That is in the Asia/Pacific area It would be nice if they shipped with Junipers recommended version -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Wheeler Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 1:39 p.m. To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping I am resurrecting this old thread because we are still receiving new EX4200s from the distribution channel with Junos 11.2R1.2 on them. This version is so unstable on the 4200 it is pathetic. Juniper guys, please talk to whoever in the company decides what software ships on new products, and make a change for these switches. -- Jeff S Wheeler Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
I am resurrecting this old thread because we are still receiving new EX4200s from the distribution channel with Junos 11.2R1.2 on them. This version is so unstable on the 4200 it is pathetic. Juniper guys, please talk to whoever in the company decides what software ships on new products, and make a change for these switches. -- Jeff S Wheeler Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 05:45:26 AM Jeff Wheeler wrote: > Perhaps putting a Junos on the switches that is remotely > stable when shipping them out from the factory would be > a good idea. I suppose "stable" is in the eye of the beholder :-). Given regression testing seems to be going down the toilet at Juniper (well, let's just say it's not as robust as it used to be; either that or the software has outgrown it), without the kind of experiences kit and code go through in the mine field to call on, I can see why Juniper would ship out newer code as stable code. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Are these the old EX4200-48P, or the new PoE+ EX4200-48PX models? The > new models require 11.2 (but they should have loaded a later R). This is the vanilla EX4200-48T. I can't imagine why it is shipping with 11.2R1.2. I just got these last week. My last batch had 10.something and at least weren't crashing right out of the box. -- Jeff S Wheeler Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
Morgan McLean [wrx...@gmail.com] wrote: > How does that kind of code even pass QA to start? I really don't understand. > Somewhere between 1996 and 2006, Juniper used to regularly sell equipment based on being BETTER than Cisco, whose software was notoriously bad and whose platforms were behind the curve. After that time, juniper started to move to the same category as Cisco. That is, big and dumb. Now you have Idiocracy-style software that crashes on boot, shipped out of the factory by default. What next? ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 04:45:26PM -0500, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > Dear List, and Juniper lurkers! > > The EX4200s we have been purchasing lately are coming with Junos > 11.2R1.2 installed from the factory. That version is totally Are these the old EX4200-48P, or the new PoE+ EX4200-48PX models? The new models require 11.2 (but they should have loaded a later R). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
On 12/14/2011 04:56 PM, Morgan McLean wrote: How does that kind of code even pass QA to start? I really don't understand. to be clear here... you are talking about the EX series devices, you'd have to start that part of the conversation about 200 steps back in the process at: "how did this device get past QA?" :( On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: Dear List, and Juniper lurkers! The EX4200s we have been purchasing lately are coming with Junos ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
On Dec 14, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > Dear List, and Juniper lurkers! > > The EX4200s we have been purchasing lately are coming with Junos > 11.2R1.2 installed from the factory. That version is totally > unusable. Surprising that they don't install the JTAC recommended releases by default, which they publish here: http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=KB21476 I had a few RMA'd the other week, and they came with some variant of 10.4 installed. -- Andrew Hoyos hoy...@gmail.com ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
How does that kind of code even pass QA to start? I really don't understand. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > Dear List, and Juniper lurkers! > > The EX4200s we have been purchasing lately are coming with Junos > 11.2R1.2 installed from the factory. That version is totally > unusable. Various processes crash at the most trivial operations, > commits, and the CLI even crashes when editing the config (before > making any commit) in some cases. Yes, we change the software before > we deploy the switches, but I would hate to be an unsophisticated > customer who just expects the switch to mostly work right out of the > box. It's a PITA even for me to get software onto the things when > they are drop-shipped to POPs with connectivity and serial consoles > waiting. > > Perhaps putting a Junos on the switches that is remotely stable when > shipping them out from the factory would be a good idea. I'm sure > this is obvious, but maybe the Juniper folks on the list could > communicate this obvious idea to the people who decide what version > ships on new units. > > Merry Christmas! > -- > Jeff S Wheeler > Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts > > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] default Junos on EX4200s currently shipping
Dear List, and Juniper lurkers! The EX4200s we have been purchasing lately are coming with Junos 11.2R1.2 installed from the factory. That version is totally unusable. Various processes crash at the most trivial operations, commits, and the CLI even crashes when editing the config (before making any commit) in some cases. Yes, we change the software before we deploy the switches, but I would hate to be an unsophisticated customer who just expects the switch to mostly work right out of the box. It's a PITA even for me to get software onto the things when they are drop-shipped to POPs with connectivity and serial consoles waiting. Perhaps putting a Junos on the switches that is remotely stable when shipping them out from the factory would be a good idea. I'm sure this is obvious, but maybe the Juniper folks on the list could communicate this obvious idea to the people who decide what version ships on new units. Merry Christmas! -- Jeff S Wheeler Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
