[lace] Re: flashing framed lace

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Nov 27, 2004, at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie Tinch) wrote 
(in response to Jo Falkink):

My problem when I have recently tried to photograph pieces of framed 
lace,
both with glass and (presumably) perspex or similar (as some were at 
Myth or
Mystery) is not the flash problem as my camera is clever enough to 
cope without
in all but atrocious light.
I had no problems with photographing lace-under-glass either, when I 
tried to - 18 months ago - at the Met. The camera has a setting called 
"BSS mode" ("best shot something" mode, though an Arachne friend calls 
it "bull s... mode ). It's meant for museums, uses no flash, and, if 
you hold your finger steady on the "shoot" button, it'll take 10 
pictures, then choose and store only the best focused one (though, not 
necessarily, the best *composed* one; I tend to take many BSS photos of 
the same object )

What I have the problem with is the reflections of all the 
surroundings including me and or the camera.
Somehow, I was able to *see* the reflections of the "environment" 
reflected in the camera viewfinder, before I took the photos. And 
either blocked it with my own body, or asked a taller someone (I'm 5'2" 
and shrinking) to do it for me for higher shots. Only the long-distance 
shots had traces of "lace, and someone looking at it". I don't know how 
to get rid of those...

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[lace] subscribe

[Lolajy]

I wish to subscribe to your lace list.  

Judy Lanskey

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[lace] Re: Lacemaker's fair and currency

[Tamara P. Duvall]

Apologies for replying on the lace-list, but it's something that might 
be of interest to other Americans...

On Nov 27, 2004, at 21:59, Eileen Lee wrote:
I am headed to the lacemaker's fair in Birmingham, England in a few 
days.
Does anyone know if the vendors will take a Visa credit card, or 
should I
try to have British currency with me?
Some vendors (the bigger ones, usually) will take Visa, but many will 
not, so cash in hand is a good idea.

Do not exchange your money here; you'll be paying banking fees twice, 
and your rate of exchange is likely to be horrible. Do not take 
travelers checks in pound sterling *or* dollars for the same reasons.

Prime up your savings account, and take your debit/check card with you. 
ATMs are spread all over Europe, so cash-access is easy.  Just memorise 
your password *in numbers*, not in letters or position on the keyboard, 
to avoid nasty surprises :) And *pay attention to the instructions* as 
they appear on the screen - they're not always the same as those you 
see in US (I've known some Americans who tried to withdraw money from 
Polish machines and, when it didn't work quite as what they were used 
to, leave the place thinking the machine was out-of-order. The next 
person after them collected the cash, but the funds were withdrawn from 
their account)

Don't use your Visa to draw cash from ATMs - on top of the standard fee 
your bank charges for using an "alien" machine (around $2.00 per 
transaction), you'll be paying interest on a loan (or balance - depends 
on how the bank set up your card) by the time you get home.

Because of the standard fee (and, in some cases, the bank which owns 
the ATM will charge one also. Usually, those machines will *say so*. 
Cancel the transaction and find another machine ), it makes sense to 
make bigger withdrawals, less frequently. Set yourself a dollar limit 
("I don't want to spend more than X"), then double it if you can afford 
it  - I've never been to NEC, but I have been to other fairs, and 
they're *huge* and very tempting, and I've always spent more than I 
planned, though not more than I had deposited in the savings before 
leaving US .  Convert that to GBP:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/
and withdraw that amount. If some of the vendors do use Visa, you'll be 
sure to spend the cash elsewhere (tea, transport, etc)...

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[lace] Lacemaker's fair and currency

[Eileen Lee]

I am headed to the lacemaker's fair in Birmingham, England in a few days. 
Does anyone know if the vendors will take a Visa credit card, or should I 
try to have British currency with me?

Monday, the 29th is my last day at home (in California) so any information 
before then would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Eileen in the San Francisco Bay Area 

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[lace] Re: Lace inspiration

[Jane Viking Swanson]

Hi Clay and All,  I don't remember this site from last year Clay.  What fun!
I'm going to go back tomorrow when I have more time and design a snowflake.
And IOLI members don't forget that the theme for next year's convention in
Colorado is mountains of lace and that includes snowflakes!

Jane in Vermont, USA
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[lace] Re: Lace inspiration

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Nov 27, 2004, at 17:03, Jane Viking Swanson wrote:
Hi All,  Here's some inspiration for you all!  "Snowflake" Bentley is a
Vermonter who photographed snowflakes around 1900.  According to the 
website
he's the one who said no two snowflakes are alike.  Anyway, these have 
been
out in book form for a long time
I used the book when designing my own 2-Pr "flakes"... :)
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Re: [lace] Lace inspiration

[Lynn Carpenter]

"Jane Viking Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Here's the "Snowflake" Bentley page:
>http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/
>
>This goes directly to the snowflakes:
>http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/collection.asp

Thanks for this terrific link!  Here is another, from the "Snowflake
Bentley" Museum, in Jericho, Vermont, USA:
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/index.htm

I have had the Dover reprint of "Snow Crystals" since I was 12 or 13 --
it's a wonderful book, and I have used it as an inspiration for cutting
paper snowflakes.  (In my family, we call them the "voodoo snowflakes",
since it seems like every time I hang up my snowflake strings, it snows
madly!)

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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Re: [lace] Lace inspiration

[Clay Blackwell]

What a beautiful collection!

For some snow-related fun, go to this website!  I may have
sent this out to you last year, but it's still there, and
it's still fun!!

http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/

Clay

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From: "Jane Viking Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: [lace] Lace inspiration


> Hi All,  Here's some inspiration for you all!  "Snowflake"
Bentley is a
> Vermonter who photographed snowflakes around 1900.
According to the website
> he's the one who said no two snowflakes are alike.
Anyway, these have been
> out in book form for a long time but there was an article
in the paper today
> saying some of them are on the web!  I've used his photos
to design cutwork
> snowflakes.  I usually start drawing the basic shape and
then the lace
> techniques take over.  The images are copyrighted but not
the inspiration.
>
> Here's the "Snowflake" Bentley page:
> http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/
>
> This goes directly to the snowflakes:
>
http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/collection.asp
>
> He's a fascinating guy.  And I guess if the photographs
can't be in a
> Vermont museum then Buffalo is an appropriate place - the
average snowfall
> (1884-2004) is 97" (242.5 cm if I got that right).  That's
8'1" - Whew!
> That Lake Effect is pretty powerful!
>
> Happy Inspiration!  Jane in Vermont, USA happy to look in
a book of
> snowflakes and have none outside right now .
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[lace] another message from the Professor

[Tess1929]

There is so much to be found on the Professor's web site, but if you are like 
me it is overwhelming and I, for one, have real trouble finding things.   I 
was talking to him about this, and here is his response:
-
I think Arachne folks need to be beaten over the head about checking
topics.html -- clearly what's there was a surprise to Devon.   And
many folks with a special interest in one topic have potential interests
in others.

Also, I think Arachne folks tend to think of its being just a lace site.
It isn't.   The lace is just a page on a par with 115 others -- and at least 
one
has more entries than the lace page.

I'll put something about this in the next issue of Webside, but in the
meantime, you might send a message to Arachne folks strongly
encouraging them to look at <
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/topics.html>
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All I can say is--it's amazing!
Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[lace] Lace inspiration

[Jane Viking Swanson]

Hi All,  Here's some inspiration for you all!  "Snowflake" Bentley is a
Vermonter who photographed snowflakes around 1900.  According to the website
he's the one who said no two snowflakes are alike.  Anyway, these have been
out in book form for a long time but there was an article in the paper today
saying some of them are on the web!  I've used his photos to design cutwork
snowflakes.  I usually start drawing the basic shape and then the lace
techniques take over.  The images are copyrighted but not the inspiration.

Here's the "Snowflake" Bentley page:
http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/

This goes directly to the snowflakes:
http://informatics.buffalo.edu/faculty/abbas/bms/collection.asp

He's a fascinating guy.  And I guess if the photographs can't be in a
Vermont museum then Buffalo is an appropriate place - the average snowfall
(1884-2004) is 97" (242.5 cm if I got that right).  That's 8'1" - Whew!
That Lake Effect is pretty powerful!

Happy Inspiration!  Jane in Vermont, USA happy to look in a book of
snowflakes and have none outside right now .
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[lace] books to scan

[Tess1929]

Devon has suggested that I ask any of you who might have lace books on your 
shelves with publication dates before 1923 if I might be able to borrow them to 
scan.   As you well know, I have done a lot, so if you were interested in 
helping and would be willing to let them go for a month or so, I would have to 
hear from you privately so that I can let you know if they have already been 
scanned. Or, you can look them up on the Professor's site: <
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html> 
and check out Books and Monographs especially.

This is something that I feel very hesitant to ask.   These books are so 
precious!   I have been lucky to get quite a few from private lenders, and of 
course have been able to find them in the big libraries when I have gone 
traveling.   Interlibrary Loan has been good, too, but I haven't had much luck 
lately.  
 However, Devon seemed to think that I should write you about this. She 
wanted me to include titles, which I can if you like, but there are a lot and 
maybe 
this first request will be the way to go for now.

If you are kind enough to be willing to lend me a book, I will return it 
exactly as you sent it, paying all necessary postage and special handling.   I 
do 
have to keep books for a month, but this we can talk about in our private 
correspondences.

Thanks to all who have been so supportive of this project.

Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[lace] Re: National Flax Museum

[LACEELAIN]

In a message dated 11/26/2004 10:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is also the National Flax Museum in Kortrijk, a short train trip from 
Brugge.  It is a very pleasant experience, as they also have some beautiful 
lace and costumes displayed in the Museum.
As it happens we're talking about the same musuem.  Belgium has two official 
languages, and Kortrijk is the Flemish name and Courtrai is the French name.  
I'm visiting the family of one of our sons this week to celebrate the US 
Thanksgiving holiday so I don't have my own maps and lace books available and I 
don't rmember now whether the city we are speaking of is in the French section 
or 
the Flemish one.  Whatever language, the museum is wonderful and happily, 
lots of Belgians also speak English!

Elaine Merritt

The Lace Museum
552 South Murphy Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94086

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Re: [lace] National Flax Museum in Kortrijk/Courtrai

[Laceandbits]

In a message dated 27/11/2004 16:09:18 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> I would add that I did not 
> have problems communicating in English in Belgium (but maybe that was 
> because 
> of the planning that went into the tour 

Not necessarily.  I have always been most impressed in Bruges at the way in 
which most shop staff eye up the customers as they approach and greet them in 
the correct language; English, French, German and Flemish basics seem to be 
considered normal for most people in contact with the public.  It really puts 
the 
British "if they can't understand, just speak more slowly and loudly" 
attitude to shame.  Unfortunately, joining the EU hasn't seemed to make 
"foreign" 
languages any more relevant to many people.

Jacquie, who can just about get by in present-tense French, but all the other 
tenses went missing somewhere.

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Re: [lace] flashing framed lace

[Laceandbits]

In a message dated 27/11/2004 15:10:09 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Do you have experience with flashing lace that is framed behind glass? When
> flashing straight from the front you whould get a white reflection spot.
> 

My problem when I have recently tried to photograph pieces of framed lace, 
both with glass and (presumably) perspex or similar (as some were at Myth or 
Mystery) is not the flash problem as my camera is clever enough to cope without 
in all but atricious light.  What I have the problem with is the reflections of 
all the surroundings including me and or the camera.

Ideas to overcome this would be appreciated.

Jacquie

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[lace] Re: doves in flight doily

[susan]

i made 2 different web pages to put my photo on, but none of them gave me a 
return address to find the web pages.  one is on yahoo and the other is on 
webspawn.  would you know how do i find them?

Alice Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 11:52 AM 11/25/2004, you wrote:
>i started this doily over a year ago and finally finished it. it is in the
>book called "touched by nature" by delsie rhoades. it came out very nice,
>with a few small stitches out of place somewhere, but i can't figure out where
>the mistake or mistakes are. i am really proud of it, and starched it this
>morning. i only did a quick job on the starching, so please over look that,
>but here is a picture of it.

You cannot send a picture to the Lace List. Majordomo computer will 
eliminate the attachment. You need to put it on a webpage somewhere, and 
give the list the web address to look it up.

Alice in Oregon 





from susan in tennessee,u.s.a.

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Re: [lace] green man

[Ruth Rocker]

I sent this before but didn't realize it went to a single person rather 
than the list. Sorry 'bout that.

A Green Man is a nature spirit inhabiting forests and wooded areas.  
Here's a good link for a more in depth explanation.

http://www.enhyper.net/greenman/greenmanlegend.html
Ruth in OK

Bev Walker wrote:
Hi Sharon and everyone
I don't know anything more about the green man either; he seems to just
'be' since time gone by - predating much else.
He has been the subject of quite a few lace
motifs that I've noticed, and someone else I know made him out of paper,
to hang in her kitchen. I hadn't heard of him until I saw the first of
several lace motifs in 'Lace'
Will be happy to hear of anything more about this - am not going to google
any more for a while, too defeated by trying to find the picture of the
lace dress at the Maltwood (and I know it's 'there')
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins and New Christmas Bobbin
www.woodhavenbobbins.com
 

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re: [lace] green man

[Bev Walker]

Hi Sharon and everyone

I don't know anything more about the green man either; he seems to just
'be' since time gone by - predating much else.
He has been the subject of quite a few lace
motifs that I've noticed, and someone else I know made him out of paper,
to hang in her kitchen. I hadn't heard of him until I saw the first of
several lace motifs in 'Lace'
Will be happy to hear of anything more about this - am not going to google
any more for a while, too defeated by trying to find the picture of the
lace dress at the Maltwood (and I know it's 'there')
 --
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins and New Christmas Bobbin
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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re: [lace] Lace- supplies/Victoria/a textile exhibit

[Bev Walker]

ello Janet and everyone
Alas no Aladdin's cave of lace supplies, but I do have my tote box of
bobbins...and a couple of us know where to buy the best thread...and
chocolate, fabrics, and other cool stuff. Send me a p-m (private message).
There is an exhibit relating to women's history in Victoria, 1850 - 1920
on at Maltwood Gallery at UVic.
Check it out here:
http://www.cura.uvic.ca/projects/art_gender/events.html
There is also a virtual tour that, once you find it, is quite good. The
trick is to find it. I didn't bookmark it, and a quick google didn't help.
The several lacey
looking textiles are not shown in detail, but the virtual part is like
going around the exhibit from the camera-eye view ;)

When I locate it, I'll post again.

-- 
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins and New Christmas Bobbin
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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Re: [lace] Tatting

[Dmt11home]

<>
 Clearly he doesn't realize how controversial this statement is :-) I  
wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
 
I usually have the site bookmarked on the lace topics, so I don't usually  go 
through "home". I went back through home, then clicked on the documents and  
found "topics". I had no idea what topics he had!  A whole topic on "Linen"  
for instance, and "Expositions and Fairs", "Tapestries". I must delve into  
these. Even a topic for obituaries. Unfortunately, there is only one obituary 
on  
it. I think that this category has a lot of potential. For instance, 
obituaries  about Mrs. Paliser or Margaret Jourdain might be very interesting 
from a 
lace  stand point. 
 
The site is becoming so huge it is going to need its own organizational  
framework comparable to the Dewey Decimal System.
 
Perhaps on the Lace topic page there should be a "see also" link to tatting  
and crochet.
Devon

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[lace] National Flax Museum in Kortrijk/Courtrai

[Jeriames]

Dear Lacemakers,

Sorry for the glitch on this memo today - I hit enter instead of tab at the 
beginning of writing this memo!  Off the message went!!

What I wanted to say to people planning a trip to Belgium is that this museum 
was on the OIDFA lace tour of Belgium in 1998.  It is absolutely a must-see.

In addition to the building (a converted long low barn) which educates about 
the flax production in Belgium, with lifelike tableaus, there is another 
building (also a converted long low barn) that has lace.  Lots of lace!   Just 
the 
most delicious presentations you can imagine.  So, if you are planning a trip 
to Belgium, be sure to include this in your travel plans.  

When you are in the early stages of planning to go, do a computer search on 
the museum for further details, or contact a Belgian travel agent/airline or 
embassy *well in advance* and they will arrange for a specific museum brochure 
to be sent to you.  So often Arachnes ask about a place a week before 
departure, and that really is not enough time for a reply.  I would add that I 
did not 
have problems communicating in English in Belgium (but maybe that was because 
of the planning that went into the tour - and the hostesses who made sure we 
had a wonderful experience).

If you'd like to read about the WW I period in Courtrai, I recommend that you 
go to the Professor's site and look for the 1920 book:  "Bobbins of Belgium" 
by Charlotte Kellogg.  The Courtrai section begins on page 77.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace & Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] National Flax Museum in Kortrijk/Courtrai

[Jeriames]

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[lace] Tatting

[Tess1929]

As some of you may know, I scanned the Hoare book on tatting some time ago 
and sent it off to the Professor.   I was looking for it today and couldn't 
find 
it.   Seems he has set up a special site for tatters.   Here is what he says:

"Tatting isn't lace, so it's not on the lace page.   See

Near the bottom, you'll find a link to the tatting page.
It's worth knowing about topics.html."

The question is: is he right?   I didn't think so. But what he has done is to 
put all his scans from women's magazines, etc, into its own section, so avid 
tatters might want to take a look.

I think the problem lies in what kinds of books, etc, we are interested in.   
For instance, the crochet patterns that were in some of the ladies' home 
manuals are pretty routine and perhaps not up to the standard of the fine Irish 
crochet of the turn of the century.   He can't distinguish the difference, 
being 
neither a crocheter or a lacemaker, so I have to make choices.   I think the 
Hoare book is a classic and certainly qualifies to be on the lace site, where 
we are looking for the best.

What shall I tell him?

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[lace] flashing framed lace

[J.Falkink-Pol]

Hello digital camara spiders

Do you have experience with flashing lace that is framed behind glass? When
flashing straight from the front you whould get a white reflection spot.
Photographing under an angle distorts the subject. With an external flash
you could photograph straight in front and flash under an angle to solve the
problem. But that type of camara's start their price somewhere arround USD
300,-
Of course you can try again and again to search for an optimal angle per
occasion and delete the lesser results, but how close can you get?

BTW some sites to compare camera's (usual disclaimers) for others getting
interested:
http://www.dpreview.com
http://www.steves-digicams.com
http://www.imaging-resource.com/

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Re: picture

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Lacefriends,
I added a lace picture on my webshot-album under
http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
to start the time of Advent or what ever you want to celebrate til the 
next weeks.
Greetings

Ilske
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Re: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370

[Jean Barrett]

Hi Faye,
This is the same museum that Elaine spoke about, just the two different 
spellings of the twon name. One is Flemish one French. Many towns in 
Belgium have this, as in Brugge, Bruges.
Jean in  Cleveland U.K.
On 27 Nov 2004, at 06:33, Faye Owers wrote:

Hi Elaine,
There is also the National Flax Museum in Kortrijk, a short train trip 
from
Brugge.  It is a very pleasant experience, as they also have some 
beautiful
lace and costumes displayed in the Museum.

Regards
Faye Owers
Shearwater
Tasmania
Australia
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  Subject: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370
  In a message dated 11/17/2004 5:01:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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  I've also heard that the specially cultivated long thin flax 
varieties were
  lost when farmers stopped growing them.  So, even a hobbyist can 
not, today,
  grow a patch of it for self use.
  Lacemakers who visit Belgium should put the Flax Museum on a list of
  important places to visit.  This museum is in the city of Courtrai, 
an
important
  market town west of Brussels .  There you can see the entire historic
process of
  making linen thread, starting with large scale pictures of women and
children
  on their hands and knees sowing the tiny flax seeds.  The plants 
were indeed
  planted close to each other and staked in order for them to grow 
tall.  Only
  tall plants were allowed to grow-- small ones were removed,  so 
there was a
  gradual culitvation of taller plants.  When the stalks were 
harvested, they
were
  'retted' , that is, soaked in the river Lis that runs through that 
part of
the
  country,  The river water is said to have the perfect qualities to 
soften
the
  fibers.  After soaking, the stalks are beaten to remove the hard 
outer
covering
  and soften the. inner parts,  Alll these procedures are depicted in 
tableau
  scenes of  life-size figures of workers dressed in authentic old
clothing.using
  antique tools.  The scenes show exactly how the flax fibers are 
turned into
  rope, cords, and finally the very fine thread for making lace.

  Elaine Merritt
  The Lace Museum
  552 South Murphy Avenue
  Sunnyvale, CA 94086
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