Fwd: [lace] Patterns for my young students

[Antje González]

Sorry, meant to say Sister Claire.

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Re: [lace] Patterns for my young students

[Antje González]

Hi Sister Judith

You can download lots of torchon and guipur laces from the north of Spain
(Galicia, famous for its laces) here:
http://www.artesaniadegalicia.org/docs.php?sec=3
It is a lace catalogue which a can be downloaded free.

Hope it is useful to you.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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[lace] Russian lacers in the group?

[Antje González]

Hello Arachneans!

I have just bought a book on Russian lace. I thought I would just be
interested in the pictures and the designs, but once I have the book, I
would also like to know what the prologue says, and some other words that
introduce each chapter. That is.. I would like to know if the text says
something about special features of the lace, of the origin of these
patterns (wether they are new designs or not... etc). That's why I am
writing to you. Is there anyone in the group who could help me with the
language? If so.. please write to me privately. Thanks a lot in advance.

Greetings from Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Prickings online?

[Antje González]

Here you are, Sister Claire: http://couvige.virtuel.free.fr/torchon/ You can
see four patterns.
You can't copy and paste these pattens but just print them. As they come out
very big (at least with my printer), you will have to reduce the size
afterwards.

Here another one: http://www.laceresources.com.au/html/previous_pattern.html

Easy ones: http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/hearts.htm

And finally http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/lace2000.html

Thanks to all those who have put the patterns on the web sharing them with
us all. They are often very useful.

Greetings from Antje, in Gualadajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Re: Raffle

[Antje González]

Thank you so much, Vicky. I am really excited for being a winner of your
raffle. How nice to share with us all. Thank you again!

Congratulations also to my winner fellows!

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajra, Spain

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Re: [lace] what is mimosa stitch

[Antje González]

Hi Bev,

I think punto mimosa is what you call in English tenstick. That is,
you work with only 3-5 pairs, and only put a pin on the head side. On
the foot side you make a turning stitch.

This stitch is used to fill pieces of ground, for example. It consists
of narrow looping lines. You have to use the hook to join one piece to
another when they cross. It forms part of many Italian laces,
especially Cantú and that sort of lace.

Greetings form Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Teaching children

[Antje González]

Hello Sister Claire.

Perhaps some of the "purists" of Arachne will tell me off for what I
am going to say. But... I think that for a start, and not having
proper pillows to teach, you could make a pillow from anything you
have near. I started making bobbin lace with a piece of white
polystyrene (the white material that covers most electrodomestics you
buy. Often you can even find it in the rubbish containers in the
street). You have to cut it the shape you need. In my case, as we use
long vertical pillows in Spain, I cut a rectangular piece, put some
newspapers in the middle of two pieces of this white stuff (to give it
some weight), and covered it with a piece of dark cloth (no sewing
necessary, just put pins in to hold it tight. That makes a cheap
pillow and able to use for a start. After knowing if the girls like to
continue with bobbin lace, you can think of making a better pillow
filling it with straw of wood rests, depending of what you have more
available.
In fact, in old times, people made their pillows with whatever they
had: here in my place they used straw, because this country grows lots
of cereals. In other places they use wood dust, which you can usually
get for free f you have a carpenter near.

Hope this is useful to you. If you want more detailed instructions on
how to make it, please ask me and I will tell you.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Siebmacher - what type of lace

[Antje González]

Dear Lynn

In German today "schneiden" means "cut". So, "schniden" and
"schnidtene" surely are old forms of today's "schneiden" (infinitive)
and  "geschnitten" (past participle). Also the pictures seem to show
that it is cutwork.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers

[Antje González]

Hello all Arachne friends,

I want to give you a short view of what happens in Spain. Here the lace
making "boom" started later than in UK or USA (as I can guess from your
messages). Although lace has been made for ages here, in the last decades
only old women did it or remembered how to make it. I started making lace
around the 90's, and I could buy no books, no patterns... I couldn't even
find a teacher. Internet was just starting here in private homes. But now
things have changed completely. Almost every town offers lessons of bobbin
lace and also lace meetings. In fact, now there are so many lace meetings,
that you have to think to which one to go. These lace meetings also bring
vendors, and it is our occasion to buy all we can't buy in our local shops:
threads, bobbins and pillows, books... I don't know if the vendors are
satisfied with how much they sell, I can only give you the opinion of myself
as a lace maker. And I like lacedays because I can buy what I need or want.
But, on the other hand, I think there are too many lace days. I always
choose one or two, the ones I think will be more interesting for me. And I
really enjoy them
Will this boom perhaps decline soon? I will see.

Greetings to all

Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain
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Re: [lace] Lace day in Spain

[Antje González]

Hello Jacqui, Ann and all Arachneans.

Being a Spanish lacer I would like to make some comments about our lace
meetings here in Spain, as I feel that it is not much known abroad.

Lace has been made in Spain for centuries, but depending on the part of the
country you go to, you will see many different types. You have visited the
South, and there, same as in most Spain, they work with thick thread (number
50 or 40.. even thicker in some cases) especially when they are making
edgings for tablecloths or sheets... The lace most women make is for home
use, for practical use, so the thread cannot be fine, as the lace would get
spoiled in the first wash.

We also use the long vertical pillow, and big wooden bobbins, which have the
perfect weight to keep the thick thread.

But if you go further North, for example to Barcelona and that area, you
will see a lot of blonde and other laces made with hundreds of bobbins and
very fine thread. And also finer bobbins, but wooden too, and no spangles at
all.
  When you talk about the lack of coloured threads to be sold: traditionally
we have always been working just with white and ecru, or black in some
cases. We are starting to introduce some colour because of the influences of
abroad. We see colour in magazines and books... but we are accepting colour
slowly. I suppose this is the reason that sellers don't sell much coloured
threads.. because we don't buy it normally.

The noise you noticed in the meeting is just a characteristic of how the
Spaniards are: we are much noisier than any other European people... Go to a
restaurant for example, and you will feel this too. Or in the streets, we
talk loud, and can hear perfectly the conversation of others who are near
us. In fact, when we go to other parts of Europe, we feel inhibited in a
restaurant or in the underground... because nobody speaks. Just different
cultures!

I also want to add that from May to December (aprox.) you will be able to
attend a lace meeting in Spain if you visit us, as there are many, in most
cities now.

Many greetings to all Arachneans...

Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Lace in Portugal

[Antje González]

Hi Laurie

I've been to Vila do Conde. That is a bit north of Oporto. It has a very
nice Lace Museum, where there are usually women making lace. And there is
also a craft shop, called "Artesanato", where they sell many things made in
the area. I managed to buy some bobbins there and also two prickings on very
hard cardboard... they were made the old way. Really interesting. IN this
part of Portugal the bobbins have a round ball on the bottom. And they make
a type of tape lace there, very loose.

I think Vila do Conde is worth a visit.. the village is also very nice.

Greetings to all Arachneans

Antje González, in Guadalajara, España
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Re: [lace] Lace in Madrid?

[Antje González]

Sorry... made a mistake sending the message. Here goes the good one.

Hello TwoHappyBees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am afraid I must agree with Carolina: there are not many interesting lace
related places in Madrid. Especially if you have only 6 hours (you will
spend almost one hour from the airport to the center and another back). I
personally would take a quick visit to the old center of Madrid, which is
really lovely. But in case you only want bobbin lace... the shops Carolina
has mentioned are the ones that have most things. In Pontejos there are
always many many people... you have to wait a queu. And then the things are
not exposed. You have to ask for what you want... so you need to have our
ideas clear before your turn comes!
There is also a Museum of clothes and costumes... from old times to modern
times. It is interesting, and you can see some lace.

There are also two private museums, which are really difficult to see. I
have only seen one... the other one just impossible.

At the Museum of El Prado, you can see lots of old paintings with lace on
them. You can center on a particular painter, for example.. .as your time is
limited.

And as CArolina says, there is an underground from the airport to the city,
which makes things easy.

Hope this helps a bit.

Greetings form Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Lace in Madrid?

[Antje González]

2008/3/27, Carolina de la Guardia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello to all,
>
> I reply to the list as it could be of interest for other Arachneans
> going to visit Madrid.
>
> Vicky, I think that 6 hours in Madrid is not many time, whereas the
> subway takes you down town directly from the airport.
> As far as I know, there are no Lace Museums.  (Antje, please correct me
> if I'm wrong).
>
> Craft shops:
>
> Almacenes COBIAN-  Plaza Pontejos, 2  MADRID (very centre of the city)
>
> DON BOLILLO - Paseo de La Habana, 174 - 28036 MADRID
>
> Maybe Antje has some more info
>
> Have a good trip and I hope to meet you in a next time here in Barcelona!
>
> Regards
>
> Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.
>
> Carolina de la Guardia
> http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego
>
> Witch Stitch Lace
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Re: [lace] Nativity Scene

[Antje González]

Hello Eva,

I hope you don't mind me correcting you. I am not the moderator of this
Spanish group anymore, being one of the reasons that a few participants kept
breaking copyright rules all the time and causing problems. The owner of the
group is another person. Carolina and me being the moderators only tried to
make it work in a professional and legal way. To have a group similar to
Arachne was obviously our aim. But, unfortunately, we have given up.
Patience has its limits.

I already got in touch with JO to tell her that the Nativity shown in
encajebolillos was a picture taken by someone who went to Vamberk Museum.
So, it seems that the designer of the Nativity is from Czechia.

Many greetings and a happy new year.

Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain.

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Re: [lace] Bedfordshire Lace

[Antje González]

Hello Dee,

After making the picot and making the first CTC, try pulling from one
bobbin, then from the other... and you will see what happens. When you pull
the correct one the little hole disappears, but when you pull the wrong one,
the hole appears. So, it is a matter of tensioning, and you get this with
practice. But first try to understand from what bobbin you have to pull to
close the hole.

Plaits look easy to make, but tension is very important to get a good
looking plait (straight, and not twisted): the four bobbins have to be at
the same length so that you can pull from the four of them with the same
strength.

Hope this explanation can help you..

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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Re: [lace] snowflake

[Antje González]

Hi Sue,

Here you can find a diagram of the snow flake: http://www.lokk.nl/  Go to
Sneeuwvlokje   on the list that
appears.

I like this site very much, because it gives such good explanations on
techniques. As well as a new free pattern every month.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Another eBay "thingy"

[Antje González]

Hello Clay,
I would say it can be a small object to mix the sugar in the tea, or
coffee... or to mix a cocktail drink. A kind of spoon, but only to mix
liquids. It reminds me of one my sister brought me from Italy. But this one
was made of Murano Glass.
Just a guess...

Gretings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Vologda lace on YouTube

[Antje González]

This has been a lovely present for me as I am extremely fond of Vologda
lace!
Thanks a lot for showing it to us.

Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] Visit to Bayeux

[Antje González]

Hello all Arachneans,

I have just returned from my holidays, and I would like to tell you
some lacey information of my trip to France, as I had the opportunity
to visit Bayeux, to see its museum and to chat with an important
lacer: Mylene Salvador.

For those not very familiar with French lace: Bayeux is located in the
NW of France, in Normandy. Apart from Bayeux, bobbin lace is made in
Caen and Courselles de Mer, very near to Bayeux.

At this moment, I am trying to learn how to make tulle ground lace.
So, this visit was very interesting for me. IN Caen and Courselles I
didn't manage to see any lace. But as I knew in advance that there was
a lace workshop/museum in Bayeux, I went there directly to see it. As
soon as I entered, I was enchanted: a medium size room where beautiful
lace was shown in vertical and horizontal showcases, well organized
and classified, with the names of the style over them. Very
instructive, really. There were also three lace makers making lace,
with their round and flat pillows on a stand. They worked with very
fine thread and with the typical Bayeux bobbins (wooden, a bit fatter
at the bottom, and long (approx. 11 cm).

I was fortunate that Mylene Salvador, the founder of this place
(Conservatoire de la Dentelle) could speak Spanish. I am glad to say
that she was extremely nice to me. She explained me everything that I
asked her without any hesitation. I bought some patterns she sold (the
easy ones) and wrote notes on how to make them, because she explained
it very clearly.

I must admit I didn't know much about these tulle laces before, and
after this visit and Mylene`s explanations, I can tell the differences
among laces from Bayeux, Caen and Courselles. At least in theory!

Apart from tulle laces, Mylene had a collection of beautifully Cluny
laces, with the leaves in colour (leaves made with 5 bobbins). In this
Conservatoire they show the lace, demonstrate and also teach how to
make it. Mylene is also a designer. She made beautiful jewels in lace.

In this Conservatoire they try to preserve old laces, redrawing the
patterns of old pieces, but at the same time, creating new pieces of
art. At the same time, they teach different types of lace (especially
tulle and cluny).

The Conservatoire has its own web page. Here is the address if you
want to have a look at it:  http://dentelledebayeux.free.fr/index.htm

I would like to thank Margot Walker for the report on the visit to
Normandy a few years ago. Thanks to it I managed to see this museum.
But I must disagree in what you said about the lacers not being nice.
I think the main problem was they didn't speak any English. That made
them seem a bit serious. I could speak to the others, just with signs.
But as I have just said, Mylene was very very nice, informative and
helpful.

I hope you have found this information interesting. Many greetings
from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain
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Re: [lace] beginning Russian lace book

[Antje González]

Hi Sylvie,

If you are looking for tape lace, not just Russian, in Ulrike Loehr's book
"Klöppelkurs für Selbststudium und Unterricht" there are a few good lessons
with good diagrams: how to start the tape, how to make the joinings, how to
work the gimp, how to finish the tape... etc. I think this book (which is
not expensive at all) can help you perfectly well for learning about tape
lace. Apart from that, you have a little bit of Torchon, Beds and Bucks.

Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Spanish lacemaker doll on Ebay

[Antje González]

Hi all,
With reference to the Spanish doll on ebay, I want to add something. The
doll is dressed up in the Catalan regional dress (from Catalonia). The shoes
are typical, and also the net that covers her hair... everything in the
dress is characteristic. At the same time, lace is made and has been made
over the centuries in that part of Spain. That's why the doll is carrying a
pillow.
I suppose that there is a collection of dolls dressed up in the different
regional dresses of Spain...

Greetings from Antje, in a stormy Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: Fw: [lace] Exciting News - Exhibition.

[Antje González]

Incredible! It looks like a lace veil! Really beautiful!
Congratulations David! I hope to be able to see your finished work. It seems
to be really challenging!

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Re: What are you working on?

[Antje González]

Hello All,

I want to make my contribution on this subject.
Apart from a few pillows with different laces on them (one of them a design
from a Japanese lace group) I want to tell you that I am busy trying to
finish a travel pillow, which is a bag at the same. Not at all similar to
the one Robin explains. I got the idea from Cristine, a French lacer who
explains the steps for making it on her blog:
http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html
It looks so nice, that I felt tempted to make it. I must admit that it is
not an easy nor a quick work. But I am having good fun at making it. I am
not sure whether it will be very practical, as I am used to working with a
vertical pillow, and don't feel very comfortable with roller. But, it looks
so nice... that I had to try it. If there's anybody who wants to make it
after watching Cristine's blog, please get in touch with me and I will tell
you where I met problems... so that you can avoid them.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] carrying an upright bolster

[Antje González]

Hello again,

Well, I am a bit surprised of reading all this about how we carry in Spain
our pillows. The video we watched was taken in 1958... I suppose these
children who went to the school lived just round the corner, and there was
no need to carry the pillow in a bag or whatever. But  the bobbins were tied
to the pillow, they were not loose. The laces on the video are made with
many bobbins and with fine thread, perhaps not as fine as for Bucks, but
fine anyway. So if the pillow falls, there is a big problem.

Nowadays, when we go to a meeting, we put the pillow in a car or walk a long
way... so the natural thing is to tie the bobbins well. As Pam said, we use
a wide elastic band, tying the bobbins firm to the pillow (I am speaking of
our long vertical pillow). After tieing, some lacers use a self made bag
(horizontal or vertical, what ever they like best, or the shopping trolleys
as Jenny and Pam said... But again, this something from modern times... 50
years ago lacers made lace for their living and didn't make bags and all
that superfluous stuff! They just made lace and carried the pillow without
complicating themselves.

About carrying the vertical pillow on the hip: it is definitely a very
comfortable position. I carry it like that when I don't have my bag.

Apart from this, you should come and see the lacers from Spain making lace:
they make it as fast as in the video, even if the video is a bit quick
because it is not in good conditions. Not only the lacers in Cataluña, but
also in Almagro, and in Galicia (the best known lacing areas in Spain)...
they have been making lace during all their life and that's how they work.
Believe it or not.
And also, when taking the bobbins with palms up you can take quiet a few
pairs with each hand for making for example a cloth stitch, or any other
stitch that has the same movements for a while.

And that's all. Hope to have solved some of your doubts.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.
2007/1/24, bevw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi everyone
> Inquiring minds would still like to know - do Spanish lacemakers carry the
> upright bolsters in anything, ever?
> How do they transport their pillows to a lace day for instance? I'm
> thinking
> of the lace days where 5000 lacemakers are gathered, usually outdoors - of
> course in the photos I've seen, there have been many styles of pillow, not
> just the upright bolsters in use.
> Does one prop the pillow up somehow in the car to go to the day, lift it
> out
> and walk to the plaza with it tucked on the hip? bobbins held in place by
> a
> cover cloth perhaps.
>
> --
> Bev where we are finally seeing some sunshine in Sooke BC and I should
> like
> to go to a lace day now too...(on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
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Re: [lace] Spanish lace in You Tube

[Antje González]

>
> What is that woman doing at 5 mins 25 sec into the video. It seems to me
> that she was about to hang in a new pair and is smoothing the thread, or
> covering it with something.



Hello David,
She is winding a bobbin. Here we use this system of winding, with the help
of the thread we are using, when we are going to add just one or a few
bobbins When we have to wind many bobbins, we use the bobbin winder. But
the way you see on the video is much quicker. I think Carolina has some
explanations on how to wind this way in her web site.
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego

What is very peculiar is the spool on the right... where the skein is put.
On the video they say that it is made of cane.

Many greetings, from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] Lace Calendar

[Antje González]

I have just received my prize from the Advent Calendar competition: the Lace
Guild Calendar 2007. Thank you very much to Jean and David. The calendar is
a real delight for lace lovers, not only has it pictures of a variety of
laces, but also a detailed description of them and of their origin etc, and
in some cases even the pattern. January's picture is a beautiful Honiton
Lace Shawl with a clear description of how it was made. For real experts!
Thank you very much again, not only for the prize but also for putting the
advent calendar competition every year, which is very good fun.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] David's Old Tønder Lace page-Update

[Antje González]

 I am astonished! I wish you all the best working this lace... I will look
at your site regularly to make my mouth water!

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Re: visit to Florida

[Antje González]

Another note on Spanish terms: bear in mind that although in Puerto Rico
Spanish is spoken, sometimes the same words don't have the same meaning.
In Puerto Rico, mundillo means the pillow , but also the lace. Whereas in
Spain, mundillo is only the pillow, but usually the pillow which has a
roller on a wooden piece of furniture. The long Spanish pillow is called
"almohadilla" or "almohada" (literally: pillow)

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking

[Antje González]

Yes Jenny, that's what I meant. Thank you very much for your translation!

Greetings from Antje, in Spain

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Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking

[Antje González]

Hello David and all,

In Spain, this kind of pattern (but in horizontal direction) means a tulle
ground is made. I will try to explain how.

In Almagro, where the typical Spanish blonde was made (the blonde for the
mantillas), as they used very very fine thread, they didn't draw one line of
dots, because there was not enough space for the pins (they use the normal
pins, quite big for blonde). That is, you work one line of tulle putting
pins, and another line (not drawn) without placing the pins. The next one is
drawn, the next one isn't... etc. Do you understand? You have to imagine a
line of dots in between the lines you have in your pattern (in this case in
a vertical direction), so that the dots you have and the dots you imagine
form the little diamonds necessary for making tulle.

Well, I hope I have made myself understood It is really difficult to
explain bobbin lace and in a foreign language!

Many greetings... from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Advent Calendar competition results

[Antje González]

Hello all Arachneans,

What a marvellous surprise to be one of the winners! I am really excited
about it!I Thank you very much Jean and David not only for the price, but
also for the kindness in making the Advent Calendar for all lacers every
year. I really enjoy taking part in in, although I realize that last year's
calendars have been much more difficult than this one's! This year's
calendar has been really interesting, because looking for the good answer,
we have been able to see all the stamps from everywhere. Although the first
Spanish stamp was not a stamp specially about lace, for us Spaniards it is a
very known stamp. In fact I used to collect stamps when I was young, and I
have part of this collection about the regional dresses of all our
provinces. I had an advantage in this case!

So thank you very much again, and to all Arachneans: have a very happy new
year, lacing and learning more and more!

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

PD. I have finally managed to put most of my web site into English. So, if
you want to have a look at it, and know a small part of what is made in
Spain... the web site's name is written above.
http://antje.gonzalez.iespana.es/

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Reddish Spanish prickings

[Antje González]

the Middle Ages were pieces of parchment dipped in saffron dye to

make the white threads more visible (or so I read in the Spanish lace
list).

As a Spanish lacer, I must say that not all Spanish prickings were
red. I would say that the prickings from Catalonia (Barcelona and that
area) were red, and this lace is perhaps the most known abroad.

Whereas in Almagro, also with a lot of tradition in bobbinlacing, the
prickings were and are yellow. They used to dip them in saffron, as
Deborah says, because saffron was and is a very typical product of
that area and in old times it was an easy way to dye the cardboard.

In the NW of Spain, that is in Galicia, also with a lot of tradition
in bobbin lacing, they still use grey cardboard, from the shoe boxes,
and draw the pattern with ink. Very rudimentary, but they still work
like that there. I have seen the same patterns in Portugal (which is
just below Galicia, geographically speaking).

And finally, all the patterns I have seen from numeric laces from
Seville (Carolina's With Stitch laces) are green. At least Cándida's
patterns, the "creator" of this lace, are dyed in green. First they
took a cardboard and drew the pattern with ink on it. Then, with a
brush thet dyed the whole thing in green. And finally they brushed a
kind of liquid wax on it, so the pattern was like plastified, and the
ink didn't dirty the lace.

So, as you see, red is not the only color used in Spanish prickings,
though perhaps the most widely spread and most known abroad.

Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Re: Translating from French

[Antje González]

Hi Beth,
Here you can find a very good diagram for making the Passe a cheval.
http://couvige.virtuel.free.fr/cluny/

Greetings form Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Report on a lace tour of Normandy

[Antje González]

Thank you very much for your report. It has been fantastic to read it:
I almost thought I did the tour too!

Greetings from Antje

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Re: [lace] Introduction

[Antje González]

>
> Hi
>
> Deborah.
>
> Welcome to Arachne. We also know each other from our Spanish group
> encajebolillos. I must say that most of the things I have learnt about
> bobbin lace comes from this group. So, thank you all. I can never stop
> saying thank you!
>
> Although I have been quiet, I want to tell you that I like the tables from
> Ikea. Our group of lacers are planning to buy them... as soon as we get the
> chance to going to Madrid.
>
> Many greetings and welcome Deborah.
>
> Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain
> http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero
>
>
>
>
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> http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero
>
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Re: [lace] Italian Lace

[Antje González]

Hello Sue,

I am a member of an Italian lace group, and as far as I know, they
make mainly Cantú type of lace. This is a tape lace, with many
flowers... it reminds me of Idrija lace.

Anyway, this site (http://www.fioretombolo.net/) belongs to the
administrator of this group and below the principal picture, you can
click on all the provinces or regions of Italy and see what is made in
them. The site is really interesting.

I hope that this gives you an idea of what you need.

Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] lace tool

[Antje González]

I have exactly the same tool: a crochet hook on one side of the
handle, and a push/pull device on the opposite side. I bought it from
a checq lace teacher in a course. So, it comes from Checquia.

Greetings from Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] lace-witch stitch

[Antje González]

Hello Lorraine and all Arachneans,

Last May, I participated in a course of this lace, being the teacher
Mariña Regueiro. She is a real expert on this subject. She has been
investigating a lot on this lace, which was almost lost not many years
ago. In fact, not many Spanish lacers know it.

I can tell you a few things that I learnt in the course, although
Carolina de la Guardia (also on Arachne) has given us a few times some
information.

The origin of the lace is in Seville. There is not much information on
how it arrived here, perhaps a nurse from Brugge taught some lace from
there... Carolina knows more about this. (In Spain Brugge and witch
have the same name. Perhaps this is a reason for calling this lace as
Wirh stitch. In Hinojosa the don't call it this way, but Encaje de
Hinojosa or Encaje Extremeño).

And why the same lace was also made in Hinojosa (Badajoz), which is a
small village on the west of Spain... A noble woman bought a large
piece of land in Hinojosa. She used to live in Seville and had learnt
to make lace there. And seing the poverty of the people in Hinojosa,
she taught the girls of the village what she had learnt in Seville
with her teacher Cándida. So the patterns used in Hinojosa where from
Seville, precisely from Cándida. This was 1929. They kept making lace
for earning their living and sold it in Barcelona, Bilbao and Madrid.
But in the 60's nobody bought it, and they gave up making lace!

At the same time, in Barcelona they also made this lace, because
immigrants from Seville or from Hinojosa took it there.

But as I said before, it has been very unknown until very recently.

Carolina is the only one who has designed patterns based on this type
of lace. Her patterns resemble very much the original laces. And they
are the only ones you can buy... the people who own original pickings
from Cándida and her pupils don't give them away at the moment!

Mariña has made a very important study and is trying to make this lace
known in the world.

And that's all as far as I know. I have just finished making a piece
of lace with about 18 different stitches of this lace. The curves are
really difficult!

Bye bye Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Lace Maker Plays.

[Antje González]

Dear Arachneans,

After reading a few messages about Lorca, Doña Rosita and bobbin lace I
am afraid I must make a few corrections.

First of all, let me tell you that Lorca is one of the greatest poets and
dramatists of the 20th century in Spain. He was also one of the most famous
victims of our Civil War (1936...), what has given him probably even more
fame.

He was born in Fuentevaqueros, in the province of Granada (south of Spain),
in 1898.

He wrote many popular poems, some of them have also become popular Spanish
songs, and many plays for theatre, especially drama. And the themes in his
plays represent problems of that time, and one must know the history and
society of Spain during those years of the war to understand what are the
plays about. Doña Rosita is really very dramatic. We can see the dispair of
a woman who is all her life waiting for his love, who never comes. This
situation was not so infrequent in those times, as many men went to America
to make money, promising to return... At the same time, she and her aunt
made bobbin lace, which was something very common, especially in certain
areas of Spain...

What I didn't know is that for the representation of this play abroad (sorry
I can't remember where you said) the Doña Rosita pattern was created.
Actually it is most improbable that Doña Rosita made Schneeberger... I
suppose she made what we call here Popular lace, which is our traditional
torchon and guipur... what most Spanish lacer made (except in Catalonia).

Sorry is it is a bit long... there is a lot to say about this author... Ian
Gibson, an English linguist settled in Spain, has written one of the best
biographies of Lorca. In case you are interest.

Many greetings and hoping to made some things clearer...

Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Re: glossary

[Antje González]

Hi Madelin and all,

Yes, I have no inconvenience in sharing the glossary with you all. In fact
it was meant for that... for sharing. The only problem is that it is still a
kind of project: it is only in Spanish-English, and not many terms are in
it. I started it a long time ago, and I have forgotten about it in the last
time. I must make it better before publishing it somewhere... That's why I
offered it only privately. I hope you understand.

Anyway, please let me know how I could include it in Archive, and I will let
you know when it is ready

Bye for now and greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain


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Re: [lace] Lace in Prague? Lace in Spain?

[Antje González]

Hello Jay,

In Spain there are a few places with large tradition in bobbin lacing. One
of them is, of course, Barcelona, where you can see two museums not far away
(Arboç and the one in Arenys de Mar). Carolina is the ideal person to inform
you about this, because she comes from Barcelona. But unfortunately she is
now on holidays. I hope that she can read you query..

The other beautiful place to see, about two hours south from Madrid, is
Almagro (near Ciudad Real). It is a beautiful town with a lot of monuments.
It used to have an important lace industry. Now it is full of little shops
selling lace (torchon and guipur), the most popular lace here. You can also
buy their beautiful turned bobbins, made of olive tree wood, and threads.
Almagro is really worth a visit. I love it! Well, the whole area around
Almagro makes lace, but Almagro is the most known.

Then you have the north east of Spain, Camariñas and other villages, but too
far to go from Madrid or Barcelona. There is a museum there too, and many
lacers making lace in their associations, and you can visit them.

And in Madrid itself, there is a museum of clothes. Have never seen it
myself. But I have been told that it is interesting. There are some private
museums with lace... but very difficult to get permission to visit.

In Madrid there is a very well known old shop, called PONTEJOS. You will
find it near the Plaza Mayor (just ask anyone in the street). There you can
find almost anything, from bobbins, threads, to pillows... There are very
good cotton threads, which you may find cheaper than in your country.

If you go to Pontejos, I would suggest you to learn a few essential words in
Spanish, so that they know what you are asking for. It is not sure that the
employees speak English! If you are intersted, I can send you a glossary
privately.

Many greetings and have a very good time in Prague and in Spain.


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Re: [lace] Greek finger lace

[Antje González]

Hi Tess,

I have found your report on finger lace really interesting. But, I have some
questions to ask you. Sorry if you have already told it in the report, as I
am not a native English speaker, I may have missed something.

How is exactly this finger lace? Is is a kind of narrow tape? With how many
bobbins is it made? I have never seen it before and just can't figure out
what it looks like. I suppose it is not the kind of lace shown in the book
"Cretan Bobbin Lace" by Koustouraki, which I downloaded from the Digital
Archives, is it?
And can you tell us something more about the new book showing this lace? I
suppose it is only on sale in Crete, is it?

Thank you very much in advance

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2006 #67: string as a bobbin winder

[Antje González]

> a string as a bobbin winder,
I have tested this one out on our lace class and we are all in the
dark. We would love to know, how does a piece of string work as a
bobbin winder?

Hello Elsbeth,
This is the method I have always used to wind my bobbins, especially if I
don't need to wind too many. It is a quick and easy method. In Carolina's
web site she explains with pictures how to do it. This is her site:
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/winder.html

As a difference with Carolina's  method, I don't use a ring, I just hold the
string with my fingers. And I don't use a string, I use any left over thread
(have to change  it after a while, as it breaks after much use)..

Good luck.

Greetings from
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Fwd: [lace] Lace-in relay

[Antje González]

Antje González, in center Spain, 0

It was good fun to join this meeting, but I found it complicated to read,
write and make bobbin lace at the same time!
And Margot, I suppose you were really busy making continuous updates of the
list of participants! Thank you very much for all your work!

Antje González, Guadalajara, España
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Fw: [lace] Christmas card exchange

[Antje González]

Pene wrote:
> I just had a thought that I don't want to spend a lot of time making a
piece of BL if I only receive a card with a tatted snowflake. Can
participants notify you with regard to the type of lace they will be making
& what sort of lace they would like to receive.

Hello Pene and all,
I totally agree with your thought. In fact, I was just about to suggest the
same thing.
Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Fw: [lace] popular uses for lace

[Antje González]

Hi Bev,
In answer to your question: > In effect, this is a survey of sorts - to what
uses do *you* put your lace?

I like making laces that I can use.  So, I have made many
-edgings for curtains: for my sitting room , for my bedroom, for the toilet,
and for a daughter's room. Also edgings for bed cushions.
-doilies, which are smaller and quicker to make. I use them everyday to
cover the bread basket (here in Spain we eat bread with all meals). I also
put them under a flower vase, on a table, on any other piece of furniture...

For all these things I work torchon, guipure or tape lace, with number 50-30
thread.

Greetings from Antje

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Re: [lace] new member and misunderstood words

[Antje González]

Here we have a sentence which says: "before answering, count to ten". And I
think it is a very wise sentence. Counting to ten makes you reconsider what
you are going to answer, because it may make you re-interpret what has been
said to you or just gives you time to chose the correct words. This is even
easier to do when answering e-mails. When writing an e-mail, there are many
possibilities of being misunderstood, because the one who reads doesn't see
the face of the one who writes when he/she is making a joke, or because the
one who writes is a non English speaking person and doesn't express
him/herself correctly, or just because he/she is not a very perfect
writer... So please, let's all Count to Ten before answering and let's
continue with the good colleague spirit of Arachne.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] London bombing

[Antje González]

After having had a similar tragedy in Madrid, I know exactly how one feels.
I have no words to say how upset I am to see this happen again. And I keep
asking myself why is it possible that there are people in the world who like
doing such wrong to other people.

I do hope nobody in this list or their families or friends have been injured
today.

I think of all of you today.

Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Website, Brazilian bobbin lace

[Antje González]

Here you can see the picture of the amazing Brazilian needles: thorns of
madacarú (a type of cactus), used in the northeast of Brazil.
http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/paginas_web_interesantes_otros_paises.htm

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Re: progress/thread

[Antje González]

Clay wrote:
>> Lynn, do you wind each of your bobbins individually and start with a
bundle of threads tied together?  That is the traditional continental way to
work.

Hello Clay,
Reading your answer to Lynn, I want to comment that we never work this way
in Spain. I don't know about the rest of the continent... but I had never
heard or read of this before. Individually, we can use this method for
example just to make a sample, if we want to use spare threads... (but this
is very personal, really). But otherwise, we always tie one end of the
thread to one bobbin, and the other one to the second bobbin, and start a
work putting one pair (or two, or whatever is needed) over one pin (never a
bundle!).
Greetings from Antje, in a cold and snowy Spain.

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Re: [lace] Finished lace

[Antje González]

Hello Diane,
Your 's Gravenmoer bookmarks are really beautiful. As I bought a book on
Gravermoer last year, I can tell you where your second bookmark comes from:
it is exactly in my book. The book is "Kant uit Vlaanderen 's Gramoer",
published by LOKK, Nederlands. You can see it on their website
http://www.lokk.nl
Keep making these beautiful things!
Many greetings from Antje, in Spain

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Re: [lace] Finished lace

[Antje González]

Hello Diane,
Your 's Gravenmoer bookmarks are really beautiful. As I bought a book on
Gravermoer last year, I can tell you where your second bookmark comes from:
it is exactly in my book. The book is "Kant uit Vlaanderen 's Gramoer",
published by LOKK, Nederlands. You can see it on their website
http://www.lokk.nl
Keep making these beautiful things!
Many greetings from Antje, in Spain

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Re: [lace] Learning Cluny lace

[Antje González]

Hello Martina,
You can find a very good book of Cluny at the Digital Archives. It is
written by L. Paulis "Cluny lace: technique and design". I think it is the
french version.
You can also get some notions of Cluny lace at this maravellous site:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/cluny/
How is your house reformation progressing? I hope you have already
finished... with this cold weather!
Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Fw: [lace] > 4000 pinholes

[Antje González]

>> I vaguely remember a remark on a Spanish site (must be between
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html but I don't remember
which one) about a device making prickings.

Well. I have never come across that site you mention. Are you sure it is
a device that makes the prickings? I have seen a site of a person who offers
to make the prickings you want with a computer. The site is
http://www.patronspuntes.com

Greetings from a Spanish lacer

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Re: [lace] Martina is back to the lace list + Christmas card exchange

[Antje González]

Hello Martina,
This is was has been said in these last few days about the Christmas card
exchange.

Brenda Paternoster wrote:
>> I am offering to co-ordinate a Christmas card exchange for December and
then start another round of Secret Pals in January. The Christmas card
exchange will be A sends to B, B sends to C...etc  as with Secret Pals,
but will not be anonymous, you will sign your name in the card.  The card
should include some hand made lace but other than that it's up to you.
This exchange will be international - you will almost certainly send and
receive from abroad but because of the time factor it will be difficult for
me to alter the initial pairings so you may or may not get paired with a
former Secret Pal.  This will be a one off committment to send and receive a
lace Christmas card.

Brenda wrote:
>> I've already had quite a few replies from people wanting to participate
in the exchange, and have acknowledged those requests.  I'm off to Tonbridge
Suppliers fair tomorrow and then we are away for a week.  I'll try to find
time tomorrow evening to acknowledge any requests that come in tomorrow but
after that you will have to wait for a few days
before you get a reply from me.

One person has suggested:
> Please sign me up for the lace christmas card. I have just designed a
simple piece which will make up into a suitable card and I will include the
pattern on the back. Please make that suggestion for anyone else who might
make up their own lace design as we all like getting free patterns. If using
an existing pattern maybe they could tell us where it came from.

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Re: [lace] Halasi Lace

[Antje González]

Hello Dora
I am really interested in reading your report. I had never heard of
bobbinlace in this area before, as in Spain there is very little written
about bobbinlace in general. So I would really apreciate your report.
Thanks a lot for wanting to share with us your your visit to these places.
Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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[lace] Stott & Cook: 100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns h/b

[Antje González]

For those interested in this book, it is now on ebay for around 7 euros.
Good luck.
http://cgi.es.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64290&item=2495111937&rd=1

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Re: [lace] Egyptian Cotton (now Finca)

[Antje González]

Finca comes in many numers: 30, 40, 50, 60 and the finest is 100. I have
used it for Tonder, but the Danish thread is finer (120 I think). It is made
in white and ecru.
Have a nice weekend. Antje, from Spain.

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Re: [lace] book

[Antje González]

What an interesting coincidence. I have also bought this book in June, but
mine is translated into Spanish. Which is about the same than having it
translated into chinese or any other unknown language for me (because the
translation is real rubbish. I am wondering if somebody has given permission
to do this translation it makes me think really bad I don't believe
Ulrike has given permission for this horrible job.
Just to let you all know, if it is for any use.
Greetings from Antje in Spain.

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[lace] 100 traditional bobbin lace patterns on ebay

[Antje González]

For those interested, Ebay offers on sale these books. I don't know anything
about the second one.


"100 traditional bobbin lace patterns", by Geraldine Scott and Bridget Cook.
9 euros
http://cgi.es.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32704&item=6915247358&rd=1

" BASIC TECHNIQUES OF BOBBIN LACE" published 1979 1st ed. A small but
comprehensive book with color photos, illustrations of how to make lace,
equipment needed, projects. The book is in excelent condition. 3 euros
http://cgi.es.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19158&item=6915256535&rd=1

Greetings from Antje

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Fw: [lace] Coloured lace

[Antje González]

> The coloured thread which people are referring to is the Finca Perle
thread...

OK, OK. I see. Finca has many varieties of threads, and I was thinking just
in the one I use, and most of the lacers in my area, which is Finca Bolillos
(white and ecru, and pastel colors), and Finca Presencia. But indeed I have
seen Perle in all kind of colours. At the beginning of this thread I was
thinking that all the colours you were talking about were only sent abroad,
but now I realize that it is not so.
Thank you Pat and Liz for your aclarations.
Greetings from Antje

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Fw: [lace] Coloured lace

[Antje González]

> While I've been on holiday I visited Biggins and saw the most amazingly
delicious coloured Finca threads that they are importing from Spain.

What colours do you mean? As far as I know, here in Spain we can only get
Finca in white, ecru and pastel colours (pink, light blue, light green and
yellow). Perhaps you can get them in bigger cities than mine... I don't
know.

Many greetings from Antje, in a really hot Guadalajara

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Re: [lace] making a straw-filled bolster

[Antje González]

Hi Bev
Thank you very much for the explanations. So easy, in fact. With the roller
I meant a cilinder. I intended to put a cilinder in the center so that the
pillow didn't need so much straw, so that the weight was less. But I suppose
making it as you say is the easiest way, and straw isn't heavy anyway.
Tomorrow I will start making it.

Karen, in the center of Spain cereals are one of the most important
productos grown. The wheat is cut once it is DRY. So, the straw I get and
the one I want to fill my bolster with is obviously dry. And besides, living
in a rural area, it is very easi to get a pack of this straw for nothing.
The only problem is where to keep this huge pack. (Mine is in the garage
waiting for the bolster to be made. Afterwards I will convert it into
compost).

Greetings from Antje

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Fw: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows

[Antje González]

This is my contribution to the survey:

> >>>How many lace pillows do you have...?<<<
Well, I am afraid I cannot compete with Robin here. I am far below her
"posessions". Anyway, here is what I have:
-1 long traditional Spanish straw pillow (from Cataluña, filled with long
rye straw), with a typical edging from the north of Spain, from Camariñas,
(with leaves, braids and roseground), for a rectangular doily for a friend
(half of it already made). -1 selfmade long Spanish straw pillow, also with
a Spanish edging, this one from Huelva in the South. It is called the "pansy
of Jabugo". A mixture or torchon and a kind of Bucks flower edge. It is not
progressing easily. I am having problems in finding out how to make a flower
in the border. Here we have no diagrams and have to find out how to work it
looking at pictures of the finished work.
- 1 cookie pillow (55cm diameter) filled with straw which I have lent to a
friend. This is the most difficult one to store, so, lending it is a good
solution if you are not using it.
- 1 cookie pillow (40 cm), on top of books on a shelve, with a Milanese
pattern.
- 1 small Danish pillow with a narrow Tonder edging.
- 1 small roller pillow with a Beds edging (I haven't touched it since last
year in a laceday)
- 1 big roller pillow with an edging which I got in Ávila, city of St.
Teresa de Jesús, and the edging is called after her. It is not probable that
she made it herself, but it was amongst her belongings; perhaps it belonged
to her mother...

 >>>how do you store your lace pillows?<<<
I don't have a specific place to store my pillows either. They are
distributed among different places, in different rooms, some of them on a
piece of furniture, others between a wall and a cupboard, others in a corner
of the room on the floor... I try to keep them out of a possible accidental
fall caused by a visitor or a family member.

Soon I will have a new pillow, because I am going to make a bolster pillow
to make a pattern from Carolin'a book on it. Though I am still trying to
plan how to fill it with straw and keep the roller in the center if
anyone has made a bolster filled with straw, please would you mind giving me
some advice?

Have a very nice summer lacing or whatever.
Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Fw: [lace] Romanian macrame

[Antje González]

Hello all Arachneans,
Today I have bought a beautiful Romanian point doily. I have made a Rumanian
friend, who has come to Spain for two years to earn some money, and she has
brought with her many doilies of different sizes made by her mother. This
girl says that point is called in Rumania macramé. It isn't the same thing
we call macramé here. Here we call macramé a craft made with knots and thick
cord (for axample to make a door curtain, or a bag...). And Rumanian macramé
is a kind of needle work, mixed with some sophisticated crochet, and with a
finer cotton thread. One curious thing is that in the end, once the doily is
made, it is stiffened with starch (naturally made, with corn flower and
water).
Now, this girl's mother is in Spain too (working for a few months) and we
are trying to find a few free days for her to teach us the basics of this
craft. I don't know if we will manage. This is a difficult month to get
people together.
Anyway, I'm not going to give up bobinlacing!

If anybody wants to see how Romanian macramé looks like, just type "Romanian
point" in Google, and you will find images.

Carolina, thank you for your explanations about the origin of the word
macramé. Precisely today I was wondering what the meaning could be! But now
arises another question, why do they call it macrame, if it isn't really
made of knots? Perhaps because it resembles the macrame? Angela: if you are
around, perhaps you can help us with this question.

Many greetings, from Antje, in a really hot Guadalajara, Spain.

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[lace] Spanish mantilla

[Antje González]

For all those interested in the Spanish mantilla, there is an interesting
article in a magazine at the Digital Archives called: Spanish Blonde, by
Edgar L. Ashley.
Hope you enjoy reading it.
Greetings from Antje, in Spain

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Fw: [lace] Re; prizes

[Antje González]

Hello All Winners,
Also congratulation to you all from Spain
Antje

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Fw: [lace] Lace and weddings

[Antje González]

> Hello all Arachneans interested in the Spanish Royal Wedding,
>
> I am afraid that I cannot give much information about the veil and other
> accesorries of the bride except what I have read in the official site of
the
> Royal Family, which is http://www.casareal.es/boda/index.html (you can
read
> it in English and French too).
>
> The veil is made of natural silk tulle and is hand-embroidered,
> following a 19th century technique, with garlands interspersed with the
> fleur-de-lis and ears of wheat. This was a personal gift from the Prince.
I
> haven't got more information about it. Nobody seems to make any comments
> about the veil here. Only the dress has been very commented because the
> designer is really well known (Pertegaz).
> The bride also wore a hanky made of cotton organza, hand-embroidered with
> fleur-de-lis, iris flowers, and ears of wheat encircling the arms of the
> Prince of Asturias.
> She also wore a fan, from end of the 19th century, of English style,
mother
> of pearl ribs and 17th century Venice-style lacing. It was restored for
this
> occasion by the National Heritage and once belonged to Princess Isabel of
> Bourbon, a very popular member of the Court known as the "Chata". It was
> chosen personally by Doña Letizia to pay special tribute to Madrid and the
> Spanish Royal Family.
>
> Hello, Spanish members of Arachne, please help me giving more
infomation!!!
>
> Many greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain
>
>

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Re: [lace] re: Good news!

[Antje González]

This is the URL (I keep it in my favorites). There are really interesting
books and articles there. I have just been able to print the one on Russian
lace, from Davidoff: just excellent! Thank you very much again to Tess and
the Professor for letting us see all these books we would never be able to
see without your work.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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Fw: [lace] Finca cotton thread

[Antje González]

> I got some Finca cotton thread ... the other day ... Has anyone else tried
this thread?

Yes Rikki. In Spain we know it very well. And I have used it myself.
Specially for learning, as it is very cheap. But it breaks easily. There are
other better threads than this one, in my opinion, and in the opinion of
many of my lacing-colleagues. Here there are many other cotton threads, from
Spain, mainly made in Alicante or Valencia. Even Presencia, the mill that
makes Finca, has other better threads. For example Fincrochet. I don't know
if you can get them where you live. And I can't compare with foreign threads
because I only use Spanish. But everyone has its own tastes or opinions.
This is just mine. Just a short report on Finca, before going to bed.
Greetings from Antje, in a too hot Spain.

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Fw: [lace] Historical notes on Lace

[Antje González]

Original Message
From: "C. Johnson"

>>To all Wonderful Lacemakers and Historians on Lace: Please continue to
list the historical items on lace.

I think exactly the same. The origins and the history of the craft we are
practising is as interesting as lacing itself. The information you give is
not easy to find in books, at least in a non English speaking country. I
always copy all the e-mails you send with these subjects, print them and
keep them in a file.
There is a saying in Spain, perhaps you have a similar one, which says: the
colours are made for the different tastes. So, it is understandable that
some people don't like historical notes on lace. But also many others who
do.
So please, keep listing historical subjects for those who really enjoy them.
Thank you very much.
Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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[lace] palms up-palms down

[Antje González]

>>, and I can't say for sure, but it may also have a little something to do
with the type of bobbins you use - East Midlands with the spangles or
continental (without spangles).

Hello al Arachneans,

Working palms up or palms down is not only a caracteristic of one country or
another, but within the same country the bobbins are taken differently too.
I am speaking about Spain and Portugal: in most central Spain we learn to
work palms up. But in Galicia (NW of Spain) and Almagro (SE) they use the
palms down method. In Portugal there are two important lacemaking places: in
Peniche (near Lisbon, they work palms up) and in Vila do Conde (N of Porto)
they do it palms down. Our bobbins are straight (that is, just a cilinder,
carved or not) and the Portuguese have a "baloon" at the bottom. The baloon
(sorry for the not too professional description) would make me think that it
is easier to work with them palms down, but in Peniche they do it palms up.

I have always been told that working palms down is quicker, because you
don't have to pick up the bobbins and leave them again, which is time
consuming. So, I am at the moment trying to change they way of working. In
some parts of the work I can manage to work palms down, especialluy when I
am making cloth stitch or half stitch. But it is difficult to change the
habits...

Except in Portugal, in which case I have no explanation, I think that the
kind of bobbins used are important for choosing one method or the other. For
example, our commonly used bobbins are quite big and heavy (compared to
spangled bobbins or any other fine bobbins from Europe); so, I find it easy
to work palms up with them . But when I use the Danish bobbins I bought last
year, they escape from my hands when working palms up, because I am used to
move or "throw" them with some energy.

What is clear to me is that, once you get used to one kind of bobbins, it is
not easy to work with others that are very different, not only in shape but
especially in weight.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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Fw: [lace] Tina the Lacemaker

[Antje González]

> I have published the first 6 chapters on my website and hope to continue
as I have time.
http://lace.lacefairy.com/Tina.html

Thank you very much Lori for the story of Tina. I have been reading it
during the Easter holidays, and I am looking forward to reading more: to see
why is it that Tina makes bobbin lace so well

Many greetings from Antje, Guadalajara, Spain.

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Fw: [lace] Tonder Lace Help

[Antje González]

> Could someone tell me what the differences are between the two or are
there just too many?

Hello Roesemarie,
I have just bought a few books on Bucks point (thanks to Pam) and I have
been comparing them with the notions I had on Tonder, as I attended a course
by Helen Schou (a famous Danish lacer) last year. And my conclusions are
that both laces, as well as Spanish ret-fi and blonda, are laces with a
common point ground. Then there are local differences in some stitches or in
the thread used. For example, as far as I know, the Danish hole doesn't
exist in Tonder. But the way of making the edge is the same, the stitches
used too, the use of a gimp etc.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Have a nice weekend. Antje again.

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Re: [lace] Re: Unusual lace pillow and stand for a doll's house on ebay

[Antje González]

> And the idea of a frame, swivelling freely between two posts, might be an
interesting one for an embroidery
frame, but I wouldn't think it would be all that useful for a lace pillow,
where the tensioning would always bring it back into an upright position
(except, perhaps, for the Spanish lacemakers who are *used* to working on
upright pillows).

Hello Tamara: Yes, we use an upright pillow, but not a swivelling pillow! So
this jewel box like pillow wouldn't be comfortable for us either! What a
pity, because I could have used my daughters jewel box!
Greetings from Antje, in Spain, after hearing again some awkward news of
terrorists in Madrid.

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Re: [lace] Unusual lace pillow and stand for a doll's house on ebay

[Antje González]

This piece of furmiture looks very similar to one my daugther has, where she
keeps her jewels. Instead of the cushion she has a mirror. Perhaps this one
on ebay is an adaptation of an original jewel box?
Just my personal idea.
Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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[lace] Thanks for thinking of us

[Antje González]

To those arachneans who have sent their condolences

Thank you very much for thinking of us in such a terrible moment for all
Spain. You can't imagine how comforting it is to see that people with whom
you share your most loved hobbies and/or job don't forget you, even though
we live so far away from most of you. Although we luckily have not been
affected directly, we are surrounded by friends and neighbours who have died
or are fighting to survive. I can tell you that we all have very deep pain
and sorrow, and we feel that nobody deserves this brutal action... it will
take us ages to forget such nightmare.
Thanks again for thinking of us

Eva, from El Escorial (Madrid), Spain
Carolina, from Barcelona, Spain
Pepe, from Coria del Río (Sevilla), Spain
Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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Fw: [lace] shawl

[Antje González]

Hello Pat,
I am also thinking of making a shawl, but I haven't got decided yet of what
I am going to do exactly. But there are various options:

1. "Make the whole shawl in bobbinlace". This will take you ages, but is
looks beautiful. A standard size shawl is 70x200cm (including the frindge).
As 70cm is too wide to make with bobbins, shawls are usually made of
stripes, which are sewn together while you work. (I would choose a pattern
of a torchon insertion and use a thick thread like N. 30 or 40). First you
work one stripe about 2 meters long. Once you finish this stripe and unpin
it, you start the next stripe placing the already made one touching the
footsides (you have to put some pins to keep the made one in place), so that
you sew it the second stripe to the already made one while you work.  You
have to choose a pattern with about 25 or 30 pairs, and you will need about
5-6 stripes.

2. "Only make the edging". Buy a piece of cloth (linen, silk or any other
apropriate for shawls) and make a bobbinlace edging for each border (two
70cm long edgings). There are easy patterns of torchon, which also have a
fringe included, for shawls. This kind of shawl has much less bobbinlace
work, but looks very nice too.

3. "Make an edging and an insertion". Apart from the edging you can add a
combining edging near the border of the shawl.

Hope this helps you to get decided of what to do.
Many greetings from Antje, in a Guadalajara full of sorrow and dispair.

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[lace] Re: ... what are these?

[Antje González]

> or search for item number 3278249569 on ebay

Hi Jean ,
hey are definitely no bobbin-lace bobbins. The little artefact with a wheel
is like our modern "pizza cutter" (sorry for this stupidity). No, now
seriously, it is like the wheel used to copy and mark the patterns in
sewing.
The little black thing with a hood reminds me of something similar I got as
a present from Marroko: inside there was black powder, to draw the line
under your eye.
The other objects are a mystery to me.
Have a nice Sunday. Here today it is a really sunny spring day.
Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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[lace] Book on Witch Stitch

[Antje González]

Hello all lacers,
I have already received Carolina's book about the Spanish "Witch Stitch". I
must say that the more I look at it the more it fascinates me. The designs
are marvellous, very fine and elegant. The technique used is a continuous
tape lace that makes curves, very closed in some occasions. The braids are
worked with different stitches which remind of the Milanese lace. The
difference between this "Witch Stitch" and Milanese Stitch is that the whole
surface of the lace is filled with these curving braids, and the ground is
never made with braids or other stitches, as in Milanese.
The book is aimed for lacers who already know a bit more than the basics of
bobbin lace, as the patterns have no dots to show where to put the pins, and
you have to "guess" this dots. So you need some practice in making this sort
of lace. You must also be familiar with the use of the hook, because you
have to sew one braid with the other constantly.
At the beginning of the book there are some explanations of the stitches
needed and different ways of making the curves and the angles, with clear
graphics. So, if you are interested in learning how to make a kind of lace
which is only made in Hinojosa del Valle, a village in the region of
Extremadura (Spain), and which is probably older than Milanese, you can see
it at Carolina's Web site:
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/encajebrujo.html.
¡I want to congratulate Carolina for this magnificent job she has done!
There are very few books on Spanish lace, so this makes it for me specially
interesting.
I have no connection with Carolina's work, I'm just a happy customer.
Many greetings from Antje, in a very very cold Spain.

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Re: [lace] Is everyone on holiday?

[Antje González]

Hi Jean. I was thinking the same as you. Perhaps the Internet has
problems... I have received the same number of mails as you. So, be patient!
Have a nice weekend
Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] Lacemaker's census

[Antje González]

Now that you are talking about the Lace Guild I've read the information
about the lacemaker's census. At the beginning I thought the idea was very
good. But after talking about it with other Spanish lacers, some questions
arouse, which I hope the Lace Guild members or any other Arachneans may
answer.
1. First of all, we would like to know if you think with this census all
lacers in the world will be really represented. In the case of Spain, and I
think it is the same in many other areas or countries, there are many
lacers, but not so many are connected to the Internet or know how to use a
computer. That means they are not going to know about this census. And in
case they have a computer and know how to use it, they don't understand
English (I would say that perhaps 75% of women older than 45 in Spain don't
speak English. At that time French was the 1st foreign language studied at
school).
2. If the lacers that take part in the census can send a label of any type
of lace, then the census only serves to get a number of lacers, not the
style of the different areas or countries.
3. What will be the exact use of these thousands of lace labels? Are they
going to be exhibited in the Guild, in a museum, are they going to be
published somewhere?
I am looking forward to your answers.
Have a good weekend, greeetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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[lace] filet lacis

[Antje González]

Hello all Arachneans,
Now that you are talking about filet lacis, I want to tell you that many
years ago, my mother brought me a little doily made of this technique. She
had bought it in Portugal. I never knew exactly whreabouts. It is made with
quite thick cotton thread. I love it.
Two summers ago I happend to go to Portugal on holiday, and driving back
through La Serra da Estrela (beautiful mountains in the north of Portugal),
admiring the landscape, suddenly we saw some big pieces of filet lace
exhibited in front of several houses next to the road. A completely irreal
picture! I suppose they were on sale, but there were no signs saying
anything. I didn't react at the first moment, so we didn't stop. How I
regret it now!
What I want to say with this story is that in this part of Portugal they
still make filet lace to earn money.
And by the way, here in Guadalajara, Spain, you can learn how to make it.
There is a good teacher at a school where they teach old crafts (also
bobbinlace, of course).
Have a nice weekend, many greetings from Antje, Spain

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Fw: [lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring

[Antje González]

>I have seen the film advertised, but who is the author of the book, I
wouldn't mind having a read.

Sue Taylor

Hi Sue,
The author is an American writer called Tracy Chevalier. The book has been a
best seller last year, I think. I read it in English, and have just bought
it in Spanish so that my eldest daugther can read it, as I think it is
really interesting for people who like painting and art. It is essentially
about painting, how to make the paint, and how was life in Vermeer's time.
Have fun realing it.
Antje from Spain

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Fw: [lace] lace pattern with hearts

[Antje González]

Hi Tracey
Perhaps a bit late for your heart pattern? I found this site, which is also
a bobbin lace course. YOu miayt find it interesting.
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/hearts.htm
There is no corner, but it is easy to make, as the pattern is so geometric.
I hope it is usegul.
Good luck
Antje, from a very cold and windy Spain today.

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Re: [lace] Pre-pricked patterns

[Antje González]

>Patty wrote:
>I also have some pricking from the Swedish Lace Organization that came
pre-pricked on really thick glazed card.

Just as a matter of curiosity I want to tell you that here in Spain, in most
lace meetings there are people who sell bobbinlace patterns on orange or red
cardboard (sometimes other colours like blue, even yellow in Almagro), but
also some of these patterns are pre-pricked (double price, of course).
Greetings from Antje, in a very foggy Spain

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Fw: [lace] ...Maltese lace - Book Details

[Antje González]

Hello Maltese lace fans,
 I also love Maltese lace, same as Robin. And last year a friend of mine, a
bobbinlacer too, happend to travel to Malta for her holidays. So she bought
both books by Consiglia for me. I am going to give you a small review of
them, in case you want to get them.
1.  "Gozo Lace - An Introduction to Lace Making in the Maltese Islands" is a
book that starts with instructions about lace in Gozo (twin island of Malta)
and how to make lace, with the typical stitches they use in Malta. The
drawings are hand made, not very good, but understandable). There are also
explanatins on how to make the Maltese cross inserted in a lace, or alone
for an insertion... Then it has several patterns (may be ten or so): edgings
and insertions. All beautiful, in my opinion.
2.  "Gozo Lace - A Selection of Bobbin Lace Patterns Designed by Dun
Guzepp". This one is a beautiful book. In the centre part there are pictures
from the old patterns designed by Dun Guzepp (really beautiful) and the rest
of the book is full of these old patterns adapted or arranged by Consiglia.
They are mostly small insertions, which I have not tried to make yet, but
which are definitely for lacers with some practice. Not only practice in
braids and leaves, but also practice in how to start and end little pieces
and how to add and eliminate pairs during the work. There are some
explanations next to the pattern, but very insufficient, in my opinion.
There are no photographs of the finished piece for referecne. So you have to
make it just as you will. Same happens in most patterns here in Spain. So I
don't wonder much about this.
Robin, could you possibly tell us the name or address of that Maltese
organization or their magazine?
Thanks a lot

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Re: [lace] Ghost at Hampton Court

[Antje González]

>I'm struggling to finish pricking a wide floral Bucks handkerchief edging -
I'm coming down the fourth side now.   It'll be a relief to start working
it, after all this pricking!

Hi Ruth,
Why do you prick the whole pattern all at once? I start pricking a few
centimeters, then I work until the pricked holes are finished, prick again a
few centimeters, continue working... This makes the whole process more
relaxing.
You can have a try next time.
Many greetings from Antje, Spain.

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RV: [lace] Re: Rundherum

[Antje González]

Sulochona wrote:
> Since the booklet has been mentioned, I wanted to ask what 13,5 and 14,5
(paar) meant . . .?? Thirteen and a half pairs of bobbins ?? Where does the
extra bobbin go ?

I suppose it means 13 or 14 pairs of bobbins and one extra bobbin with
thread for a gimp (in case there is a gimp in the pattern you are talking
about!). If there is no gimp .
Have a nice weekend.
Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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RV: [lace] Translation, please

[Antje González]

For those who cannot get the 'International Lace Dictionary' by Edith Spee,
Ineke van den Kieboom, Johan Coene, there is a more modest one at Christine
Eichler's Web site http://www.tatting.de/dictionary/d-edict.htm#P
Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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RE: [lace] advice

[Antje González]

I should have completed the information. Sorry.
In the site I have just told you, go to "techniek"; then down the page click
on "randslag".
Antje

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RE: [lace] advice

[Antje González]

Hello again Lynn,
I have found another site with a diagram of a foot (explanation this time in
dutch!). But you will not need the words, the diagram is easy to understand.
Hope this helps, because the french site is not accessible today.
http://www.lokk.nl/defaultboek.html
Greetings and good luck
Antje

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RE: [lace] advice

[Antje González]

Hello Lynn and wellcome to Arachne,
I think you will find this site interesting:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html
It includes a course of lace making. If you enter in "cours", and then in
"torchon", you will find explanations and diagrams of many stitches and
situations for beginners in lace. Today, unfortunately, I cannot enter this
site. I hope you can.
It is written in French. But it is easy to understand looking at the
pictures. Anyway, I will tell you that "fusseaux" means bobbins, "dentelle"
means lace, "dentelle au fusseaux" means bobbin lace.
I hope you continue making and learning a lot of bobbinlace. You will find a
lot of help in this list.
Good luck and greetings from
Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain

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RV: [lace] Puerto Rican Travel Pillow

[Antje González]

From: Adele Shaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> If anyone on Arachne has used this pillow - do you find the padded front
cushion to be any use?

Hello Adele, I made this travel Puerto Rican travel pillow myself a few
years ago. It looks really cute but, in my opinion, it is not very
comfortable to work on it, essentially because the front padded "apron" is
too small. I use small bobbins (continentals) but they are longer than the
pad. Now I have this pillow on a shelf, with a lace on it, but I only take
it to exhibitions. But I made another one, increasing the size of the
"apron": I made it about double long, so that the bobbins can rest on it. I
find this much more compfotable. I also made the roller a bit bigger, and
put it a bit lower, so that the bobbins don't hang so vertical and  can rest
comfortably on the "apron".

> taking your bobbins out of the dents, making your stitch and putting them
back
No. The dents on the sides are just meant for resting a few bobbins you are
not going to use, for example the pair of bobbins of the footside. The
bobbins you are working with rest on the "apron", no matter if you work
palms down or palms up. I have made my dents more rounded so that the thread
doesn't break when taking the bobbins out them.

> I would like to make a version of this pillow, but I intend to leave off
the front apron -
If you leave off the front apron, then you will use this roller pillow as a
mini bolster pillow, I suppose. And that's  something different.

I hope my opinions are useful for you. I can send you a picture of the
finished original size pillow and also of the other version, if it can be of
any help to you.

Greetings from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

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RV: [lace] Lazy susan and thanks

[Antje González]

Thanks to the thread about the lazy susan, I have found out how to use mine.
I happened to buy one years ago in a lace fair,(didn't know its name), and
don't remember the seller's explanations about how to use it. Now I finally
will try it and find out if it really works.
Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain.

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