Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
I teach at a university and was able for several years to use for free a classroom with large windows and lots of light. We also had use to a kitchen and a large mezzanine where we could sit and chat. Our problem was parking until a local church let us park all day for a very reasonable fee. The classroom was never large enough for all the guild, just those of us who wanted to get together an extra day a month to make lace together. Too bad, if it had been larger, it would have been ideal. oh well ... we do what we can with what we've got. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Hand Carved bobbins... I am stuck!
Yes, categories. Also, maybe the categories relate to other forms of folk art such as embroidery and carving on other wood pieces such as spindles, door frames, knitting sheaths, ... love tokens ... with regional or occupational speceficities such as anchors, fishes, fishnets, flowers, etc. Just an idea coming from my museum experience with other objects. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada (and yes, I remember that I owe you some pictures, sigh...) > I have started to write the promised article and doing reasonable well. I > have omitted the largest group of hand carved/decorated bobbins as they > are a > genre to themselves, namely the East Devon/Downton bobbins... also I am > sticking to English antique. The Continental hand carved bobbins are very > prevalent and extremely well carved, but I just do not know enough about > them > to tell a story. > > I have discussed the utilitarian bobbins, like a twig or a piece of wood > carved to a bobbin shape, I am OK with the basic application of "chip > carving" > to a bobbin but I am struggling as to whether I include the hand carving > of > scenes, animals objects etc on bobbins. I have written about individual > bobbins in this group (see tiny URL below and scroll down till you find > them) > They are often quite interesting. > > I suppose I am asking if "artistic carving" (i.e. scenes, animal etc etc) > can > be discussed in "the same breath" as chip carving which is "geometrical" > in > its concept. > > MMmmm as often is the case "chatting to you Arachne" people (over > coffee???) > has perhaps clarified my thinking.. I.e. create categories of geometrical > and > artistic carving. > > What do you think? > > > > > > Brian and Jean > From Cooranbong. Australia > You can read my bobbin stuff on: > http://tiny.cc/egb85 > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bobbin origins
How did we get where we > are now & what designs were discarded because they "didn't work"? There > seem to be lots of different styles that didn't make the cut beca > use the currently available selection is limited. Makes me wonder if > it's like shoes--some for show & some for go! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, > Erie, PA with another 5" of rain last night The economics of mass production and distribution have more to do with the lack of variance in bobbin shapes than the 'did or did not work' factor. When local designs were actually local because of isolation, local makers with restricted markets, hand made/ hand turned / hand carved techniques, traditional designs, a strong sense of local flavour, etc., there were more styles and shapes. Now that we tend to buy bulk quantities of whatever is commercially available, and that being mass produces by machines ... like everything else, the same easy and inexpensive to make, basically effective designs are produced. But notice how quickly most of use try to personnalize what we use (hand painted designs, spangle shapes / designs / bead choices, constant search for the unusual, etc.)! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Le Pompe 1559
There is a copy on Ebay.com for $89 right now. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] antique bobbins
Brush them off with a soft brush to get the dust off, wipe with a moist cloth (not wet), use a good quality wood wax (beeswax based like Renaissance Micro-Crystalline Wax Polish which is used by museums) and then use them as much as possible the heat and moisture of your hands will help the wax go deeply into the wood and make it live again. Enjoy Renaissance Wax -> www.picreator.co.uk Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > I have just bought some antique wooden bobbins, can anyone tell me how I > can > put some life into the wood without using grease or anything that might > damage threads because they are very dusty and look as if they have not > been > used in many, many years. > > > > Sue M Harvey > > Norfolk Uk > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Knit Heaven
> The Bonnet Preserver (item 13 under "Knitting" at > http://www.knitheaven.com/vintagepatterns/26_BONNET-PRESERVER_KNITTING.htm > ) Since women tended to have their hair in a low flat bun, could the ties go around the bun? So the band would be covering the hair line at the front and sides of the head, ties going one above and one below the ear, then the above tie staying above the bun and tying with its mate from the other side, the lower tie doing the same below the bun. With the bun, it would be awkward to wear a cap under the bonnet, but a band would be coasy and warm. I have long hair that a wear in a fat bun and I find modern headgear impossible to wear because the back always comes down too low to accommodate my bun. This seems like something I'd like to wear now instead of a band or cap and my head scarves would have something to hold on to (a bit of friction) ... hum getting out the needles and yarn ... Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada where we are snowed in ... again! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Big postal delays
Receiving mail from the USA has also become difficult and the extra security imposed on packages at the border has beome onerous and expensive. UPS charging $40 in brokerage fees and then the Canadian taxes and charges of an extra $20 on a purchase of $75 of bobbins, thread, and pins. And a wait of almost a month for delivery of a package that was comming from less than 300 miles away. I don't think I'll be ordering anything again from the US any time soon. And yes, I know that the postal service (USPS) is not UPS but the custom and brokerage fees when there is a terrorism scare are just as large. International post is no better: I had a $20 British purchase of a bobbin opened at the border (after a white powder scare in England) last year and the handling, custom and taxes came to over $40. In the quiet periods between scares, parcels clear Canadian customs without delay and with almost never any additional charges. I wish we could find some serenity. In the 1970's, the various European terrorists (German, Basques, Irish, others) caused much more death and destruction than today's terrorists and many more planes were blown up. Somehow, I don't remember people, and governments, being so fearful and frankly, paranoid. International police and security forces are doing a good job of detecting and defusing threat and / or re-establishing order. Notice the number of successful raids in Europe and North America. Who was it that said "All we have to fear is fear itself"? Was it not an American president? I wish we could find some serenity. That's what I'm aiming for in the New Year, that and a lot more lacemaking. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Lace Library
In some ways, digital libraries are a very good thing. In others, not. Not everything ever published will ever be digitised. Only what someone, somewhere will choose to find time, money and computer space to copy. Electronic media are fragile in their own ways and they do need electricity to work. They also need the electronic means to be used and that does mean having access to and the means to use the proper protocoles (so do you have the right version of flash or adobe or whatever else is being used ritht now? will it still be readable in 10 years?) Systems can crash, be hacked, be compromised or data files corrupted, or erased. Just because its digitized does not mean it is permanent. And they are no more or less impervious to physical damage caused by war, malice, cataclysm or fate. To abandon one means of trans-generational memory that works for another that may work is folly. Why not maximise memory by investing in all forms of remembering? People, books, films, and yes, digital libraries, in all languages and all available media. A kind of memory biodiversity ... Lucie DuFresne Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Sisters of Charity - Ottawa Canada - Photos
I have uploaded an album of photos I took at the Sisters of Charity museum in Ottawa, Canada. All are mine except the first two: the sun dial on the Mother House wall and the memorial card for Mere d'Youville. Those are from the Sisters' webpage. Look under 'Lucie DuFresne - Sisters of Charity' folder at: //community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date enjoy! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Was Dillmont again - Now Grey Nuns
Thank you! I need to know this because I am researching a 'atelier de production" (a workshop) in the local Sisters of Charity (Grey Nuns) Mother House in Ottawa. This is the book they have and I am trying to determine the resourses available to them and when for their production of liturgical lace. This is a big help since it helps me establish a chronology for the likely availability of writen sources. The Grey Nuns made liturgical lace (mainly but nor exclusively embroidered net called 'Richelieu work') for almost 150 yrs in Ottawa and much of the tools, patterns, and samples are still availabe (but uncatalogued) in their small museum. If people are interested, I could upload a few pictures of the museum and the lace on Arachne's page. (And how exactly would I do that?) Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Hello Lucie ( and Lynn) > > From your description, it appears that you have a French edition. The > earliest French edition that I have details for was dated Oct 1909, when > 630,000 copies had been printed. I don't have the number of pages for > this > one, which is the larger size, but the 1924 pocket size contained 828. So > it appears that your book predates 1909. > > I keep looking for more clues to dates - the best so far was a English > version which had a handwritten inscription - Holmes, Windermere, 1895. I > believe the first book was published in 1886. > > Hope this helps a bit, > > Liz > > -Original Message- > From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of > lucie...@uottawa.ca > Sent: 14 October 2009 19:08 > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset > > > Dear Liz, > maybe you can help me date my Therese de Dillmont, Encyclopedie de > Ouvrages > des Dames. Paris: Librairie Ch. Delagrave (n.d.) 826 pages + 44 pages of > ads > and contents. Olive green cloth cover, black and gold DMC logo paper on > inside cover, 560,000 printed copies, pocket size (9.5cm x > 14cm) > > thank you > > Lucie DuFresne > Ottawa Canada > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset
Dear Liz, maybe you can help me date my Therese de Dillmont, Encyclopedie de Ouvrages des Dames. Paris: Librairie Ch. Delagrave (n.d.) 826 pages + 44 pages of ads and contents. Olive green cloth cover, black and gold DMC logo paper on inside cover, 560,000 printed copies, pocket size (9.5cm x 14cm) thank you Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] engageantes / jabots / cravats/ Sotomayor
While perusing the arizona university site, I found these two articles that might answer some questions that were posed on the list: - for the person who was looking for Nouvelle France engageante information, look here for patterns, how to wear and other various information: Lace Caps of the Eighteenth Century. The Bulletin of the Needle and Bobbin Club, Vol 5, No2 (1921) 6 pages www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/nb21_lc3.pdf - for those of you wishing to make lace jabots for Judge Sotomajor A video interview on choices for robes and collars given by Supreme Court Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bader Ginsberg: http://supremecourt.c-span.org/Video/JusticeOwnWords/SC_Jus_FemaleJust.aspx and an article on jabots: Cravats by Mrs F. Nevill Jackson. The Connoisseur, Vol9 (1904) 7 pages www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/aea_lac1.psf - the ecclesiastical robe company in Quebec mentioned by Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor is probably Bertrand Foucher Belanger: http://www.bfb.ca/vw/fs/p010.htm Enjoy! and thank you to all those who wrote me with information about historical lace for re-enactors. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] philadelphia lodgings
A friend of mine who has been helping me with my lace research needs a place to stay in central Philadelphia from the 17 to the 25 of this october. She is looking for a safe and fairly inexpensive B & B or other lodging. She is not adverse to being billeted (and she will pay). She is from northern France (now living in Canada) and now knows a fair bit about lace in Normandy (after helping me, grin). She cannot buy her plane ticket without declaring her address in the US. The hotels seem to be full or else out of her range. Any help? I'm sure she would share her amazing collection of lace photos she took for me last summer. Thanks Lucie DuFrresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] [Fwd: Calais Lace Site]
Hello, A friend of mine just sent me this interesting site. Look at the pictures, but also at the video included in the article. Unfortunately, the site seems to be only in French. It announces the opening of the "Lace City" in Calais. You need to type in the code given in the shaded box at the bottom of the page to get in. Also, at the top of the page in a line in blue that you can click at view a video. Enjoy La Cité de la dentelle ouvre ses portes à Calais http://photos.lavoix.com/main.php?g2_itemId=93620 Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa Canada Bonjour, Une amie vient de me faire parvenir ce site intéressant. En plus des photos, ne manquez pas le vidéo. Hello, A friend of mine just sent me this interesting site. Look at the pictures, but also at the video included in the article. Louise Cossette From: denysebr...@hotmail.com To: cossette.t...@sympatico.ca Subject: Dentelle Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:02:55 + Allô Louise, Je suis tombée par hasard sur ce site. La Cité de la dentelle ouvre ses portes à Calais Je ne l'ai pas consulté, je t'envoie tout simplement l'adresse. http://photos.lavoix.com/main.php?g2_itemId=93620 À bientôt, Denyse Faster Hotmail access now on the new MSN homepage. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] 1810s vs 1860s
I am trying to figure out what kinds of lace would be extant and available to American and Canadian women (urban and fairly rich, I guess) to decorate their clothes (especially coiffes). I have a fairly good grasp of the clothing styles involved (except for the difference between country clothes that seems to stay fairly 18th centurish and urban clothes which follows European fashion fairly quickly. Have others noticed this too?) This is to help me in producing historically credible re-enactment clothes for the War of 1812, the American Civil War, and Canadian Confederation (1867)in Upper Canada. I don't even want to think of the differences between French and English Canada (Lower and Upper Canada) at that time... But I'll not refuse any information or hints. Thank you in advance. Arachneans are truly awesome sources of information. Any help would be very appreciated. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1
Oh do continue your travel diary! Such fun! I read it out loud to my husband as we had breakfast this morning. Your observations are worthy of an anthropologist in the midst of culture shock! It really is the 'little' differences that really get us when we travel. Thanks for the laughs and the cringes. Great fun! Lucie DuFresne In Canada but remembering her first impressions of Los Angeles too! And for the Americans on line: I'm married to an American and love you all even if the differences between Canada and the States always leave me lost and confused. ;-) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] torchon lace query - hand or machine
Yes, I agree with you Brenda: hand made and french Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Further to Diane's query about whether her pieces of lace are hand or > machine lace she has sent me a scan which I've uploaded to: > http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/arachne/dianes_lace/ > dianes_lace.htm > I have cropped and compressed but still big images to show the detail > > Diane said >> The one without a cloth trail I think is machine as there are no >> pinholes anywhere. The other one has pin holes where the plaits >> cross. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> (I think both need laundering as they smell very musty, but I will be >> very careful and check the archive for advice) > > Personally I think they are both hand made. > The top image does show pinholes on some of the crossings (top left of > image) and the petals, though even enough are all a bit different, not > to mention the centre crossing > > The lower image is definitely handmade as the working direction varies. > > BTW I wouldn't call either of them torchon, the top one is Cluny, the > lower one Cluny with "Russian braid" influence. > > What does anyone else think? >> -- >> diane >> > > Brenda in Allhallows, Kent > http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Nuns at Work-is it lace?
I think both the nuns in the foreground (one left , one right) are working at bobbin lace pillows: there are pins sticking out at right angles to the bolster pillows in both cases. The seated nun in the centre back right seems to be using a needle to embroider. The nun in the back right is either spinning or winding bobbins. Great find! Thanks Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > There is a picture at the MMA which shows Nuns at Work. "Nun's work" is a > term sometimes used for lacemaking. Thanks to the miracle of > zoomification, > it is now possible to zoom on this picture to try to figure out what the > nuns are doing. It is unclear to me, but I think that the nun on the left > might be doing needle lace, one on the right might be doing bobbin lace, > and > one might be winding bobbins. Or is this wishful thinking? If you want to > see the picture go to the address below, then use the zooming function on > each individual nun. Having seen the picture at a distance, I had been > thinking it showed stages in needle lace, but now, I am not so sure. What > do > you > think it shows? > Devon > > _http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/collection_database/european_painting > s/nuns_at_work_follower_of_alessandro_magnasco_italian_milanese/objectview.a > spx?OID=110001380&collID=11&dd1=11_ > (http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/collection_database/european_paintings > /nuns_at_work_follower_of_alessandro_ma > gnasco_italian_milanese/objectview.aspx?OID=110001380&collID=11&dd1=11) > **Great deals on Dellâs most popular laptops â Starting at > $479 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029082x1201385915/aol?redir=http > :%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213969145%3B35701480%3Bh) > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] appealing group
> Don't know what it is, but to me there's something very appealing about > this > group and the way it operates - more so than any other group I belong to. > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK So very true! Lets not change anything for as long as we can! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] gum arabic
gum arabic is available at art stores that sell water colour supplies Lucie Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace Products
If you choose 'plastic' on the side bar, the bicycle basket comes up. Lucie Ottawa Canada > On 4/11/09 10:06 AM, Diane Zierold wrote: > >> Crochet Bicycle Basket >> http://aplusrstore.com/product_detail.php?show=product&pid=314&cid=57 >> >> I'm really partial to the black basket for my red bike >> -- but $70 US might be a bit much. > > Particularly when they refuse to say what it's made of. > > -- > Joy Beeson > http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ > west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. > where the redbud trees have red buds -- if you look close. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] CROCHET HOOKS
> > The Canadian/UK seem to be the old imperial sizes at least they > are when I look at the few I've got!! Yes, they are! We even had for a while conversion gauges made of metal or plastic with graduated holes in them listing the US, CAN and MM sizes on them. CAN equaled BRITISH. I have a few still, somewhere. If you would like one, let me know by sending me your address. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] on cleaning lace
Orvus is available in Canada in feed stores, but only in industrial quantities (by the bucket full!). Our lace guild bought one bucket and we are in the process of decanting it into small recycled shampoo bottles so our members can bring some home for their own use. I've used it. It rinses out very well and has no discernable odor. It is what is recommended for use by the Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) for use by small historical museums for their textile collections. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] personal thread catalogue
I store my linen and cotton threads separatly and have a filing card in each box with the list of threads by brand and size on it. I keep track of how many spools as well. I also put a star beside the listing of the thread in the book : Threads for Lace by Brenda Paternoster. That way, I know what I have and what is sort-of equivalent to what in my stach. Since I also use old cotton sewing thread, I store those by size taking no notice of brand name. Mixed in a multicoloured project, it hardly matters if they are slightly different in size. There it is more important for me to know what colours I have. Hope this helps. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Dictionary on CD
Robyn said in part: > I have a suggestion--we recently had a discussion of the positive and > negative aspects of publishing a lace pattern book as a CD. Those who > objected to a CD pattern book seemed mostly interested in being able to > browse the pretty pictures somewhere other than at the computer. I think > a CD dictionary might be very well received, since there is less of that > sort of browsing (I know, there's some, but not like a pattern book). It > could make searching easier; if it could search in the definitions, there > need be only one entry with all the synonyms (whole vs. whole-and-twist vs > double stitch could be a single entry). That might make it a little more > like an encyclopedia than a dictionary, but that's not a bad thing. And > it's certainly a whole lot less expensive to produce a CD "book", always a > good point when self-publishing. Though a CD is ceratinly an option, I would prefer a paper one for these reasons: - Don't need a computer to access it, can bring it to class - Don't need electricity to access it - Can write in the margins, make notes, add alternates as found, generally comment in my own hand and as I chose and need to So call me a ludite. I make lace, don't I? Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bone /ivory bobbins
I have one ivory midlands of the 'spinster' type, very small, smooth without surface decoration or embellishment, and one ivory honiton bobbin. I've always suspected they were gifts from India during the Raj. I'm trained in museum conservation so I did learn how to tell ivory and bone appart. One distinguishing feature that has not been mentioned is that on a large enough piece of ivory, one can see a pattern of intersecting arcs like on the face of a sunflower. Those are the growth patterns of what is essentially elephant dentine since tusks are teeth. Ivory bobbins: definitely exotic and rare. I would not be surprised if a few narwhal, morse, and whale bobbins aren't out there as well as gifts from whalers and explorers to their sweethearts. I imagine those are even rarer than ivory. If cribbage boards and gaming pieces were made from the above materials by sailors and native americans for sale to Europeans, than there must also be sewing and other textile tools made as well. Just a thought on a rainy day Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: what did you do before bobbin lace
Part of my love of lacemaking is that it is a form of weaving that can be done in a small appartment. I still have some small looms, including a folding one patented in Scarborough, Ontario Canada in the 1920's. That one is too odd and wonderful to part with. Its also my first ... I've knitted and crocheted (we have more than enough afghans) but beadwork and costume making were my passions during my dance career (another life, long long ago). Turning a piece of heavy canvas into a sparkling beaded brocade for stage is really wonderful and satisfying. But it is also expensive, time consuming, and no longer a reasonable source of income. I still bead, but it too is difficult to do with 4 young cats in the house... later when they are older and, I hope, blase ... Sewing, especially hand sewing historical costumes, is what I am now doing the most. And the lace I am now making is for those costumes: New France (17thc) and ByTown Days (1850-1870). The historical research is as much fun as the constuction. I'm fascinated by embroidery but don't seem to ever do any. I just look and the pretty pictures and dream. When I was 16, I had this fantasy of owning one of the small abandoned railway stations in the Ottawa Valley and converting it into my weaver's studio with living loft. That too was a long time ago, but I still dream about it. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] silk thread - Malta
What is the source of the silk thread used for Maltese lace? That wonderful luminous cream silk ... and has anyone tried to repair a piece of Maltese lace? Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace day in ottawa
The Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers - 20th annual Ottawa Lace Day When: Sunday, March 30th, 2008 Time: noon to 4PM Where: Clark Room, RA Centre, 2451 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Cost: $3 adult / children under 12 free Vendors from Canada and the USA will have merchandise for the lacemaking, tatting and needle lace enthusiasts. there will also be door prizes. A lace demonstration area will be set up so that children and adults can try their hand at lacemaking under the direction of lace experts. We extend an open invitation to all lacemakers to bring their pillows and to work on their lace. For further information, please contact Cheryl at 613 792-1672 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] See you there! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Separating embroidery floss
Miriam asked: > I have read most of your letters on this subject. But what do you do when > you don't have a staircase, a balcony or a second floor. Do I have to go > up on the roof? What I have done is wind the full skein on a knitting bobbin (those flat plastic holders used when knitting in multiple colours). I unwind the length of my body standing up and separate out one strand in the same way as what has been described. I wind up the single strand and the double strand on their own knitting bobbins right away (3 bobbins in use). That way, I can split the floss without a staircase or window. It works well for me. Oh, and I make sure the cats are otherwise occupied, behind a closed door (grin). Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] speakers at convention
> Along the same lines, I would find it interesting, and possibly a tie-breaker when planning how to spend my discretionary money and time, to know who the speakers were going to be at Convention and what they were going to speak about. For some reason it seems to be traditional to never announce this. (...) Now that we have the internet, why not let people know about the speakers? I often find the speakers to be the most interesting part of the convention. > > Devon Having been one of the speakers at IOLI in Montreal, I can tell you it came as a huge shock to me to find out that nowhere in the written material of the convention was my name mentioned or the title of my talk listed. I come from an academic background and in that community, this would have been grounds for the speaker canceling the talk. As it was, I cried and then tried to make the best of it. When later I realised that I was considered a volunteer and not even a guest or equivalent to a teacher and that my talk was not even mentioned in the reviews of the event, well, I don't feel very inclined to offer to share my historical research anytime soon. ... More's the pity, since I had spent over a year researching the images and information and I believe that the talk itself (on the production of lace in New France by the female religious orders and the lay women they trained) was rather well done, and it had already been vetted by historians of religion at the University of Ottawa where I teach. Oh well, the excuse I was given by the IOLI organisers was that it was traditional to keep the speakers a secret. Small solace ... Lucie DuFresne past-president Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What is this?
> Yes the upper piece, for storing the lace as it comes off the pillow, is > called a plioir. Hard to pronounce with English-shaped vowels Try this: pli = plea oir = why + ar(t) Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Unfinished lace
> I would take a photo of the pillows with lace attached, then remove the > lace > and buy a frame and use the picture as the background (made half > transparent) and add the pieces of lace in front with a few of the > bobbins > still attached. The finished picture (collage) could then be given to the > family. It would be a lovely memory of their Mum's work. > > Faye Owers > Tasmania > [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a wonderful idea! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] dachsund pattern
It was in the Canadian Lacemakers Gazette when Ottawa was the editing team. I have spare copies if anyone would like one. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa > I have worked a bookmark in the shape of a Dachshund. Can't remember who > designed it, but I think I got the pattern off the internet. > > Malvary in Ottawa (the nation's capital), Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Copyright, and lace patterns
> I have been following this thread and wonder about the 300 or so books > that belong to Norfolk Lacemakers where we all borrow them and I may > honestly say I think everyone of us have copied patterns out of them to > work else where would be the point of us buying them for the use of our > members? Are we infringing copyright in doing so? > > Sue M Harvey > Norfolk UK The use made of your library by your members is covered, I suspect, by the same types of regulations that cover university libraries and public libraries: fair use and non-commercial purposes. There is no commercial purpose to your library. If your guild is a corporate person (and I am using the metaphor of the family as a corporate person) then the guild members act as family members using books out of a joint collection. Its only my opinion, but based on my experience with our guild lending library and the research collection I manage in the university department where I work, any copyright infringement would be a action committed by an individual mass copying for purposes of selling. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers, Canada University of Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Copyright, and lace patterns
How wonderful if there was an infinite number of new books available to be bought and an infinite amount of money to be spent. But such is not the case. How horrid if second hand books had to be destroyed. How horrid if public libraries could not lend books for fear that copyright might be infringed by a borrower. How sad if teachers (of any kind, anywhere) could not use what information and resources they can find to teach with. How very sad if all this led to the irrevocable loss of information and knowledge. We have all of us had surrendipitous finds of old magazines, prickings, photos, postcards, books and or lace pieces that have contributed to our knowledge and pleasure as lace makers. All of us have shared our finds, even if only at guild 'show and tells'. That's how traditional knowledge is kept alive. Yes, there are issues of legality and commercial exchange. Yes, we need to acknowledge and respect the work, skill and creativity of those who produce originals, in whatever form or format. We also need to find ways of not impeading the free flow of information and expertise. I teach at university and one of my greatest challenges is to navigate the Canadian copyright laws and to teach my students how to cite their sources explicitely and completely. To be found plagiarizing could cost them the right to even be at university. Certainly, it would cost them any credibility as a researcher. On the other hand, none of us would be allowed to publich research if it was not based on prior work, the better to contextualize the newness of our contribution. Its a narrow bridge over a deep chasm. Honesty and transparency are paramount virtues. So is intellectual curiosity and the willingness to share. I hope we as lacemakers can find a way to both continue the tradition of lacemaking that preceeds us and to build a future store of innovative design and skilled execution for our descendants to admire and emulate. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa Canada > Hello all, > > Selling a book secondhand - the author (lace designer) makes no royalties > from > the book sold secondhand, > so why not discourage the practice and have everyone buy a brand new copy, > thus the designer can make some money! > > That is the only downer from secondhand sales that I can see, and of > course > owner #1 must keep no copies, Xeroxed or otherwise. > > Susie Johnson, > School librarian in my former life. > Morris Illinois > Where I am waiting to hear how my Malamute is doing in Surgery this > morning. > HUGS > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread help please
I am trying to determine the size (wraps per cm) of a new thread I have purchased. Has anyone used it and what might you compare it to? Ariane 60/2 Coton egyptien mercerise Ne 36/2 (egyptian mercerised cotton) Thank you Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Last Knit
Wow! I really needed that laugh! Oh, have I ever been there, and knitting too! One Alpaca wool scarf of my husband's that was knit in sheatland pattern at 14 stitches an inch, doubled sided, took a year to knit at about an inch in length per 6 hour session. The neverending scarf got finished on the train trip across Canada that we took when we moved from Vancouver to Ottawa (6 days with a stayover in a hotel when the train's brakes froze during the cold snap of '88 and we had to wait for them to unfreeze). Canada, oh Canada, your name is winter. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa, Canada, where everything is now frozen but the sun is finally out. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace activities - request for help
As some of you know, I have been trying to piece together what information exists on lacemaking in New France and later Canada. Some of you may even have heard my talk at this summer's IOLI convention in Montreal. Now I'm trying to get governmental academic funding to do the research in earnest. This is where you might be able to help. I need to demonstrate to the funding body involved (SSHRC - Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council, a Canadian federal funding body) that my research is of some interest and quality. Since I am studying what is essentially, from their point of view, a minor craft of little commercial value to today's industry, and since I have not yet published any of my work in 'academic' publications, I need some other way of demonstrating that my research has some value. Could those of you who so feel inclined write me a few lines of comment (email is fine as long as you have signed with your full name and address) that I could add as an appendix to the grant application I am currently assembling? The due date is October 6th. Also, I would dearly love comments and ideas as to where my research could next go. As far as I know, I am the only one in Canada doing this kind of research and I do feel a little isolated and proceeding more by instinct than by experience. You do not have to post to the list, I'm not looking for kudos. Private messages are just fine. If you would like more information on my academic or other qualifications, I can provide them. I ask because one of the negative comments made by the adjuticating committee last time (when they also said it was important historical work and needed done) was that there seemed no evidence in my academic or professional CV that I was capable of accomplishing this task and, as well, they knew of no one that could assess the quality of my research design. So if some of you who have professional expertise, even if outside of Canada, would like to be considered as assessors, I would be VERY grateful. Do drop me a line: Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI - pillows and meeting
Since I am driving to Montreal with friends, I could bring a few (3) pink styrofoam pillows with me for others to use. They are not fancy but they are large and octogonal. Let me know if this could be of help. Also, the Ottawa Lacemakers Guild has a display table in the vendors room. I will be sitting at it during part of the week. We, arachneans, could meet there at some point. I am giving the talk on Monday night during the evening event, maybe we could meet after? Or we could meet on Sunday afternoon when the Sales room in open. I'll be at the table. Oooh, I am so looking forward to this! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI satelite lace exhibitions
As part of the satelite activities of the IOLI in Montreal this July, there are 6 exhibitions of lace and lace related materials available to be visited in Quebec during this summer. Here is the list I was given by the executive of the Montreal Guild of Lacemakers: Manoir Fraser of Riviere-du-Loup 32 Fraser Street, Riviere-du-Loup 17 June to 15 October 2006 Lace handkerchiefs and collars / cuffs Domaine Joly de Lotbiniere Exit 278 of Highway 20 (Laurier-Station) Montreal Quebec 10 May to 15 October 2006 Embroidery and Lace on a floral theme Chateau Dufresne (unfortunately not my ancestor, sigh) 2929 Jeanne d'Arc avenue, near the corners of Pie IX & Sherbrooke St. Montreal Quebec 16 July to September (date to be determined) Baptismal robes and accessories from 1880 to 1950. (Beautiful! I saw it last year and will see it again) Musee des Maitres et Artisans du Quebec (Museum of Crafts and Craftspeople of Quebec) 615 Sainte-Croix avenue (Du College metro station) Montreal Quebec 23 July to end of August 2006 Lacemaking equipment and tools from several countries around the world, with appropriate lace examples Maison Louis H.-Lafontaine 314 Marie-Victorin boulevard Boucherville Quebec (on the south shore of Montreal) LE MIRACLE DU FIL / the miracle of thread 28 May to 20 August 2006 The 16 illustrated sonnets by Henri de Regnier of the Academie Francaise (c. 1930) on the beauties of lace are accompanied by over 50 pieces of exquisite lace (chantilly, blonde, binche, cluny, alencon, bucks, bruges, and others) both antique and modern. Also in the exhibition are some antique pillows and bobbins from France (Normandy, du Puy, Quercy) Impressive. Guilde des metiers d'art (Arts and crafts guild of Montreal) 1460 Sherbrooke Ouest Street, Suite B Montreal Quebec 13 July to 30 September 2006 Exhibit of antique lace (collars / cuffe, fans, handkerchiefs, etc.) Some pieces of very fine modern lace for sale in the boutique. I'll list the vendors who are confirmed as soon as I know who they are. Lucie DuFresne president, Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI /Montreal
> Second thought, my french lessons will be put to the test. Don't worry, most classes will have someone there to translate. I'll be in the lace ID class to make sure the francophones understand their anglophone teacher (it goes both ways , you know, the need to understand ...). The organisers have done a great job in assuring the presence of bilingual volunteers in all possible situations. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers (where our meetings are held in both French and English all the time) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers 2006 lace day
Some of you might like to see a blog put together by one of our lace guild members, Judith DuFresne (no relation to me). In it she shows some wonderful pictures of lace made by our guild members for this year's show which had TULIPS as its theme. As well she shows some of her own work. She is one of the finest lacemakers we have in the region and won first place in both the recent Montreal and Ottawa lace guild competitions. Some of you will be dissapointed because the site is only in french but the pictures are beautiful, and who knows, by summer's end, there might be some english on the site as well... enjoy, Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa Canada www.passiondentelle.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Going to Montreal
Oh do I have news! I am giving one of the conference talks at the IOLI. It'll be on the evidence for lace making in New-France. Lots of preparation and many, many photos and illustrations. Its a progress report on a larger project I'm doing researching lace making in early Canada using historical documents and museum collections. I hope it will be well received. The fun will be giving it in both french and english simultaneously. I CAN do it, in fact, I have to teach this way quite often at the University when upper level classes have both french and english unilingual students attending at the same time so the class is large enough... One of the joys of living in Ottawa (grin) I've just found out today that the conservator of the Grey Nuns museum (Srs Rita Lacombe) died this past wednesday. Her funeral was today. She was one of my partners for the special exhibit in Ottawa for the IOLI. Its too early to know if this will affect the Ottawa trip or not. I'll let you know when I know. Other parts of it, the historical portraits gallery at the National Art Gallery with all the lace costumes, the visit of the Ottawa Basilica collection of church linens made by the Grey Nuns, and the visit to the Montebello mansion and the Papineau family lace collection are still on. All of it is fully bilingual, I'm one of the tour guides. How are things with you? Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:54:53 -0800 (PST) >From: Cathy Reaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: GOING TO MONTREAL > > Lucie, > How are things going with preparations? > Branwen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes! Our guild (in Ottawa, 2hrs away from Montreal) is providing support > and translation for the organisers in Montreal. We are also sponsoring one > of the day trips (can't tell you yet what it is but it will interest those > who do netting and lacis). > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bone/ivory bobbins
One possibility that has not yet been mentioned is that England had a number of its men in the Indian subcontinent at some point (the Raj). It is not inconcevable that some of these men had ivory and exotic wood bobbins made for gifts to sweethearts and family back in England. Certainly, a lot of the workboxes and their fittings came from India. Might not sailors and whalers carve bobbins out of narwhal, whale and walrus? They would be quite rare, but they should exist ... As well, since some dip pens and other small cylindrical pieces (of bone, wood and ivory) were re-used after a bit of modification as bobbins, that too might be a source of exotic bobbins. If Victorian men were producing bodkins, needle cases and other needle work implements in whatever material was at hand, could ivory not also be a possibility? Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Bulletin
> By which time, the Canadian elections -- which seem to be riding, > mostly, on anti-US sentiments -- will be long over, and we might know > how easy/difficult it will be for us to enter the country (will the new > government give us tit for tat?)... > Tamara, As a Canadian and one living in the country's federal capital (where most of the hot air is being generated), I can assure you that the borders will not be closed not will Americans be other wise targeted in any other way. Our border guards don't wear sidearms (though they wish they could, but not because of Americans or Al-Qaida, but because some of our Native people can get uppity, grin). That's a good 500 miles away from Montreal (this time) and not likely to affect any of you. As for the horrendous rates, you're right. They're awful but actually quite reasonable for downtown Montreal in the middle of festival season. The organisers got a good discount. But then, we Canadians are used to paying higher prices for things like hotel rooms... Why not share with someone? That's what some of us from Ottawa are doing. Don't take what seems like anti-american spouting too seriously. Its de-rigueur for a federal election. We pay it little mind, except when its not there, grin. And there are other issues, like soft wood lumber, but that's not likely to make it onto american news. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] BEWARE - Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin *Circa1830 (6224228813)
"provenance" from the french meaning 'where it comes from' Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > I think the word that Brian was looking for is "provinance" - it's a good > "art and antiques" word, but I can't even find it in the OED!! > > Clay > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Montreal
> I know that for those of you who were able to go to Denver it will still > be > fresh in your minds, but the post from Janice yesterday about the 2008 > convention has made me stop and think that everything is very quiet about > Montreal. > > I'm sure that they were being diplomatic and waiting for this year's event > to > be all done and dusted, but now.. Do we have a spider in the camp for > Montreal? Will there be any tantalising titbits coming our way? Will > there be > an arachne event? > > In anticipation, Jacquie in England I'm not on the organisation committee but the Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers (of which I am president) is helping out. Specifically, we are busy making special surprises for the banquet, organising a day trip to Ottawa (several museums and lots of lace), making sure that there is sufficient english spoken and written so that no-one feels lost, and several other tasks that I will speak of as soon as I can. Ottawa is a short trip away from Montreal (1.5hrs) and quite do-able in a day. Last year, I and a friend would go to Montreal every 6 weeks for an all day Binche lace class intensive. Quite do-able. Montreal is a cosmopolitan city and most francophones speak english. Certainly, every attempt is being made to assure efficient communication in both of Canada's official languages (french / english). The Canadian dollar is strong at the moment but it is still a fraction of the American dollar, so should be a blessing. Simon Touston lives in Montreal, so do several bobbin makers. The styles made are mainly continental, especially french (bayeaux / normand) but other styles are made as well. Quebec bobbin makers use beautiful woods and often laminate them. There is also a wonderful carver of traditional french chip carving who makes boxes, bobbin stands and lace measures (the rectangular gauges that permit the measurement of lace lengths). Trillium Bobbins is from Ottawa and will be in Montreal for the IOLI. So probably will be the Atelier de Penelope, a fine embroidery supply store from Quebec city. So for those of you looking for unusual and local things, you will not be dissapointed. So, as I learn that certain activities are confirmed, I will let arachneans know. Lucie DuFresne president, Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers Ottawa, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ruban de table / table runner
How unfortunate that a less than felicitous translation is causing such strife. Yes, table runner is most probably the more standard english language name for the item required for the next IOLI competition. Some thoughts: - no less than two colours can also means two shades of natural (bleached/unbleached, white and a guimp, light and dark, etc.) - size and shape requirement: really helps when planning an exhibit if space or exhibit furniture are causing problems. Also, its a neat challenge to wrap one's brain around. Also a good size to eventually become either a border or a central insert to a larger linen/lace cloth. - as to 'traditional', well, some embroidered table runners I have seen have a plethoria of colours and motifs on them. Then again, why not think blue&white or red&white as in Deerfield embroidery/chinoiserie/delft or redwork or blackwork traditional styles? Cross stitch could translate into torchon, crewel could translate into floral bucks or russian ... my brain is stimulated and I'm already sketching! This could be fun! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] cataloguing lace and tools - help please
This summer, I am starting in earnest a project I have been preparing for some time: a study of lacemaking in Canada as evidenced by its museum and archive collections. I am starting with Ontario and Quebec (from Toronto to Montreal) as these areas are close to home (Ottawa). I am hoping some of you who have done museum research on lace can help me. I am trained in textile conservation and in cataloguing principals as part of my museum sciences background but my experience is with native art and photography. I have yet to work with textiles other than my own collection. The museums I have visited so far do not have any special way of cataloguing their lace (or any textiles). The CHIN system (Canadian Historical Inventory Network) is sorely lacking in sophistication re textiles and I have yet to see any models of inventory sheets for textiles in any books. So I need help in finding models. Both my own university research school and external sources of funding want to see what kinds of inventorying I will do and what kind of searcheable data bank I might establish. Any possibility of funding is predicated on my coming up with something workable by early September (funding application deadline) and I would like to spend some time this summer trying out whatever I come up with. Would those of you who work or have worked in museum collections, or who have established for yourselves workable inventory systems, send me a sample? You can invent the info entered on the sheet, its the 'fields' or category lables I'm interested in. What do you try to identify? What information do you track? What do you find most often missing or misleading? As a side issue, the funding agencies seem to think that digital photography is sufficient for my needs. I am trying to argue that a competent professional photographer using a high end lense camera can made clearer and more detailed photographs of textiles and that the quality of the prints, enlargements and reproductions merits the apparent high cost. I also argue that a standard photograph well processed by a competent photographer that understands archival needs has a much longer useable lifespan than today's digital photograph no matter how well taken. What do you think? I would be very interested in what the editors of printed materials (books, magazines, etc) and virtual media (web sites, etc) think about this. Both pros and cons will be very useful to me. Thank you in advance. If you are interested, I could post some of the inventory sheet examples I have been playing with until now. Let me know. Lucie DuFresne University of Ottawa Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace poem
While googling 'holland lace', I found this. Enjoy. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada Edmund Clarence Stedman, ed. (18331908). An American Anthology, 17871900. 1900. 758. Old Flemish Lace By Amelia Walstien Carpenter A LONG, rich breadth of Holland lace, A window by a Flemish sea; Huge men go by with mighty pace, Great Anne was Queen these days, may be, And strange ships prowled for spoil the sea 5 For youold lace! Stitch after stitch enwrought with grace, The mist falls cold on Zuyder-Zee; The silver tankards hang in place Along the wall; across her knee 10 Dame Snuyder spreads her square of lace, A veilfor me? The Holland dames put by their lace, The bells of Bruges ring out in glee; The mill-wheels move in sluggish race: 15 Farewell, sweet bells! Then down the sea The slow ship brings the bridal grace The veilfor me! Manhattan shoresa New World place, The Pinxter-blows their sweetest be: 20 And nowcome close, O love-bright face Bend low Nay, not old Trinity, To Olde Sainte Markes i the Bowerie, Dear Hal,with thee!25 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] phrases on bobbins
Yes! I too could use a "lets close the books and make lace" bobbin! Any makers out there? Lucie DuFresne (way to busy grading exams and getting a conference paper ready to be making lace - harumph!) > If someone finds (or makes) one of these - please let me know - I'd love > to have one! I'm currently working on an MBA and dreadfully miss the > lace making time! This lace list keeps me in touch - even though my > pillows are put away. > Thanks, Everyone! > Tonnie McB > Phx, AZ, USA > > Bev Walker wrote: > >>Hi Helen and everyone - >>There is the phrase by itself on a bobbin >>'I'd rather be making lace or 'I'd rather be lacemaking' >> >>How about - 'Close the books, let's make lace' or even 'Lose the books, >>let's make lace' >> >> >> >>>:o) The other one I've seen is "Blow the dust, let's make lace". I want >>>one on a similar theme about studying and lace, but I can't think of >>>anything >>> >>> >> >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Simon Toustou Pillow
Simon Toustou is a member of the Montreal Guild of Lacemakers. So am I. If you know what kind of pillow you would like and would trust me to buy it for you, I could arrange it with him. It is much easier to buy a pillow that is already made than to order one and wait (sometimes extremely long) until it is completed. I don't think Simon has a catalogue or a web site so I can't refer you to any illustrations, but if you are talking about his pillows then you already know their quality and style. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Guild Newsletters on Professor's Site?
I would like to introduce a new viewpoint to this discussion. It has to do with historical research and the need to preserve the past. I'm a historian (an anthropologist actually) and the research I am doing right now is on the history of lace making in Canada. Much of my research is going to be based on written sources as most (if not all) of the commercial lace makers (yes, they existed in the french language convents up until Vatican II, ie late 1960's) are now dead. I am told there are a few octogenarians left, but so far they are rumoured to exist... I've no names or contacts of living nuns who used to make lace for sale. I do have access to 'necrologies' (biographies written after death of a nun's carreer and held in the convent's archives). I have catalogues put out by religious supply houses, photos from parish archives, and the beginnings of a catalogue of museum artifacts (lace, equipment, patterns, etc) that are just now showing up as convents close and people die. These things I have access to. All I need is the courage and time to find them and study them. I have another invaluable source of information: guild histories and newsletters. In here, I include the various local farmer's wives associations (cercles de fermieres) and parish workshops (ouvroirs and 'oeuvre du Tabernacle') newsletters. Some of these show up in local parish archives or provincial archives. Unfortunately, the guild newletters for the most part were never sent to the National Archives of Canada (which would have gladly accepted them as Canadian publication ephemera). This means that at best, I find mention of a newsletter, or one example, or a few years in a local guild library ... if I'm VERY lucky. And yet, they are a gold mine of historical information (guild existence, number of members, kinds of lace made, suppliers available, bibliography of older books, local news, exhibits , etc.). Patterns are rarely what I'm after, though they too are an invaluable source of information. When I asked my local guild (Ottawa) why it had no Canadian Lacemakers Gazette for years when the Gazette was published outside of Ottawa, I was told that having a guild subscription would hinder the magazine's finances. When I suggested that the guild subscribe but put the issues in the library once a year (ie always VERY late) as a way of completing the collection and providing a valuabe resource on Canadian lacemaking history to the guild members... my comments were not taken seriously. Yet, how would I have started my research if I had not read the six years of magazines that are in the library (and which I purchased for myself when the editorial board moved to British Columbia). That's how I found out about the other Canadian guilds, about lace making in Port Royal, about the Ursuline Nuns in Quebec City, about Andree-Anne de Seve and her books on lacemaking printed in Quebed in the 1970-80's. This led to my becoming a member of the Montreal Guild so that I could actually meet some of the women I had been reading about and so I could access their archives and old newsletters. When I was near Philadelphia last summer, Elisabeth MacDonald welcomed me into her home and gave me free access to her lace library. In it were local and international newsletters and magazines going back nearly 20 years. What a wealth of information! And some of it directly relating to my research interests on Canadian lace! But where else but at her home and through her generosity would I ever have learned about these magazines or access the information in them? I so hope and wish that a kind of repository (and the professor's site IS the most logical place) will come to exist for this information. This is what gets lost. This is what, when it disappears, makes us invisible to outselves and to others, and which makes any kind of historical reconstruction so very, very difficult if not impossible. Europe lost so much of its history through war. Is North America going to lose it through economic concerns and copyright restrictions? Why not err on the side of preservation and dissemination? Why not, if you are a guild, gather up what history you can on yourself, including your past newsletters, gifting the professor with this information for the use and benefit of all. If you are a publisher or writer, and your book (however published) is now out of print and not likely to be republished, why not send a copy to the professor? Maybe with a provision that it not be scanned before another 3-5 years? At least then, a copy would exist for future sharing. Maybe if you have written an article or given a conference or put together an exhibit catalogue, you could do the same, with again a time lag if you find it appropriate ... The Springett sale that occurred this December had a catalogue. That too needs to be archived. Maybe not immediately, but certainly. Its a major historical document and CANNOT be lost to posterity. This is not an argument for running rough shod
[lace] Re: classes in Cornwall, Ontario, Canada
To Canadian Arachneans: I have a request from a woman in Cornwall, Ontario who would like to take lace classes. She already has her tools, just no teacher. Can anyone help? Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Ontario Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pricking
In spite of the time it takes to actually prick all the holes, I find that I learn a lot about the pattern if I prick them before making the lace. I try to prick them in order of work (footside, ground, motif, next motif, headside, back to footside, etc). I often find myself figuring out the sequence of work, passage of threads, or identifying where I don't understand the pattern and even, if its an old pattern, where a pin hole is missing or off true. To start without pricking would be strange to me now. I will sometimes prick out part of a pattern, even if I don't particularly want to produce the lace, if the pattern is in a sequence of difficulty between a pattern I've already done and another I wish to do. I did this a lot with bucks point when I was just learning it. I collected as many patterns as I could from our guild library, sorted them out by difficulty, then started pricking at least two repeats of most of them to learn the logic of this lace technique. Its faster than making the lace, takes less room, and I found it a great intellectual challenge. I also learned to read bucks point patterns better than just looking at them in books, and faster than making the samples of lace. Than again, its the internal logic of the various techniques that fascinates me more than the actual making of the lace... go figure... Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Since things are quiet and you are encouraging newbies, I have method that > I > would like feedback on and it might help those of you who don't have much > time. I never prick patterns. I copy them on heavy blue cardstock (heavy > paper) and then put clear contact paper over the top. They seem to hold > the > pins really well and it saves a ton of time. Then I just pin as I work > the > lace with no prior pricking. Some of you are probably gasping in horror, > but > it works. I don't reuse them, just make more as needed. It is cheap and > quick. I don't every have to worry about pin pricks I might have missed. > The only down side is that I have dozens of these around that I have not > used yet. A case of more optimism than time, I guess. I don't know when > or > why I started doing this. (Remember I am self taught.) Is there any > reason, besides not being the traditional method, that I shouldn't be > doing > this? Damage to pins, thread, etc.? > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] loom for tape making
I have seen in various museum collections (Trois Rivieres / Quebec City Musée de la civilisation / others) a small weaving loom that is identified as a tape loom. It is a small shallow rectangular wooden box. The front narrow short side has holes in it near the bottom edge held closed with pegs. The ends of length wise threads are held in these holes by the pegs. A transversal vertical piece of wood goes accross the long sides. It is pierced in a pattern of slots and holes in a vertical line accross the piece of wood. The length wise threads go through these openings, one thread to each slot or hole. The back cross wise piece of wood has a roller bar mounted on it on which are held the lenths of thread. Now, the narrow tapes are woven by passing cross wise threads through the length wise threads, just like in a larger loom but in a simpler fashion. I've even seen only the central slotted piece identified as the loom without any other pieces. I suspect the length wise threads would be attached to some stable point on one end and either the person's body or another stable point at the other and the weaving would proceed by lowering or raising the slotted piece to separate the threads into two sets which could be woven through. Some of these simple tape looms (cross piece only) occur in the archeological record for early Europe. Look at Vicking and Celtic grave goods. Lucie DuFresne (Ottawa Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ottawa Couvige
Well, the storm on Thurday dumped 140+mm of water (over 50 inches) on Ottawa, some regions west of us got 20 - 30 mm more! The community centre where our guild meets had a power outage so we are rescheduling: The Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers (Ottawa Canada) is combining its Sept meeting and its monthly 'couvige' (lacemaking day) this Saturday (Sept 11th) from 10am to 3pm at the University of Ottawa, room 117, Arts Building, 70 Laurier East, corner of Waller. Our librarian is bringing the library books so we can exchange our books. Everyone invited, cost $2, coffee/tea provided, bring lunch, parking available at Laurier and Waller in city parking lot (much cheaper than on campus), bring your lunch. You don't have to be a member to attend, you just need a pillow and bobbins... Lucie DuFresne president Ottawa Guild of Lacemakers (Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Philadelphia info needed
I will be going to Philadelphia, specifically Bryn Mawr, to do research with an elderly colleague. She can not put me up in the senior residence where she is and I do not know the area well enough to find a suitable B&B. I also dont drive so this is an added difficulty. Any ideas about suitable accomodation? Since I will be in Philadelpia from the 19th of June to the 30th, I hope to meet local lace makers. I'll have one of my pillows with me and some of the research I'm doing on lacemaking in early French Canada. I hope I'll get to meet some of you soon Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] historical lace
I too am VERY interested in historical forms of lace and always read any and all information which is shared on this subject with great interest and enjoyment. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] old French bobbins on ebay...
> "24 bobbines en bois doliviers qui servaient à fabriquer les broderies > sur un metier de passementerie"?? 24 bobbins in olive wood which served to make embroideries on a trim making loom (literaly) "bobinnes" is used in French, at least in Eastern Canada. Yes, it means "spool" but it also means something cylindrical on which to wind thread, so "embobiner" means winding one's thread on a spool or bobbin... "embobinoir" is a bobbin winder. "Fuseau" also means spindle as in the act of spinning thread with a spindle... Another word for lace bobbin that is used in Northern France is "bloquet", maybe from 'bloc' as in small piece of wood... According to my Larousse (French dictionary), passementerie means any type of woven or braided trim, especially the metallic thread frogs and braids on military uniforms. Other French words for passementerie are "galon" and "lacet". In the 1600's passementerie included early braided bobbin laces. Lysiane Brulet in her book, La Dentelle aux fuseaux (Le Temps Apprivoisé, 1999, ISBN 2-283-58205-9) muses that early bobbin lace may have resulted from the replacing of metallic threads by linen threads and the passage of male makers of military braids to female makers of court laces... maybe. Even in French Canada, "broderie" is something made by decorating a fabric with stitches made with thread and needle... "metier à passementerie" might be accurate ... but not likely in this case. Sigh, a seller that ALMOST knows what they are saying... Lucie DuFresne (Ottawa Canada) loosing her mind as she tries to compile all the words used in French and English used in Canadian museums to describe techniques, instruments, matetrials and objects having to do with textiles ... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lace in Turkey
I think the needle lace found on head scarves is called 'bebilla'. The examples I saw (when I was studying Middle Eastern women's dress) was multicoloured and floral in design. Very pretty! Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] This ebay seller wants to know what it is.
I have one of these that I was given in the late 1960's by an Indian goods store owner (I worked there one summer). Its a little bone pomander. It is meant to have a tiny piece of cotton wool inserted inside the channel for the handle on which one can put a drop of sented oil. The whole thing thus becomes a scent holder for a purse, a work bag or even a pocket. Something like a 'vinaigrette' but more humble. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Another item attributed possibly to needlework or lacemaking, but this time > the seller admits to not knowing what it is and asks if anyone can tell him. > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3264410314&category=114 - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Some of my lace
Oh how pretty! Especially the 'wash and wear' edging, the 'danish little hearts' and the Christine Springett design. Thanks for sharing Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Anyone got any ideas on what this is?
It seems to be a shuttle for an industrial weaving machine. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada > Described as "Antique Lace Sewing Bobbin Wood Ivory THING ! " - has anyone > *any* idea what it is and what it's for? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2563093265&category=221 > 9 > > or search for item number 2563093265 > > Jean in Poole > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Inishmacsaint Lace
Thank you so much for taking the time to research and contact a local expert and send us this information. This is one of the reasons why I so very much enjoy Arachne: an openess to share. Thank you again. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
