Re: [Ldsoss] One Laptop Per Child

[Thomas Haws]

That may be cramped however if these laptops aren't similar enough to
"normal" computers, since a significant amount of learning and practice
with these wouldn't carry over to the "real world" of computers.




From another perspective, however, these aren't so much for learning about

"computers" as they are a cheap and vast combination textbook/library/lab
tool/etc.

Tom
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Re: [Ldsoss] One Laptop Per Child

[Mac Newbold]

Yesterday at 9:55pm, Thomas Haws said:


I'm sure if the church offered to buy a million, OLPC would sell.  Do you
think the LDS Foundation or the church could do that?  They won't be
shipping for another year.


In short, anyone that wants to come up with $100 Million can buy a million 
little laptops and do whatever they want with them, and distribute them 
however they want.


Perhaps these laptops would have a use as part of the Perpetual Education 
Fund program - I'm sure there are people for whom a computer would be a 
huge educational opportunity that could help break the cycle of poverty. 
That may be cramped however if these laptops aren't similar enough to 
"normal" computers, since a significant amount of learning and practice 
with these wouldn't carry over to the "real world" of computers.


Mac


On 1/5/07, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I wonder if the Church could help with these laptops.  If a religious
organization were to purchase some and hand them out I wonder if they
would be more likely to get to their intended destinations with
appropriate training.  Are they selling these only to governmental
organizations or have they approached charitable ones as well?

Jesse








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RE: [Ldsoss] Laslo vs Flex vs GWT vs ?

[Dallan Quass]

I'm told GWT is very nice to develop in, but it generates rather large
javascript files, so probably not something to use if you just want to add
some interactivity to your web pages.  If you already know java don't want
to learn javascript, and you want to develop a significant application that
interacts tightly with HTML, this is a great way to go.
 
I played around with YUI a bit - I liked it.  Kind of a large library again,
so probably not something to use if you just want to add interactivity to
your web pages, but their source code is nice and well-documented.
 
JQuery (jquery.com) is quite nice and has a very small footprint. It's well
documented and has a good community around it.  If you just want to add some
interactivity to your web pages, this is my favorite solution.
 
Flex is great to develop in, but its integration with HTML is really poor.
They have a rich-text control, but its support of HTML is limited to a few
basic tags.  There are claims that you can embed full HTML in an iframe, but
the solution isn't officially supported, doesn't work on Safari, and if you
want to pop up a dialog over the iframe you have to hide the iframe first.
Adobe says they're going to be coming out with Apollo soon, which will allow
you to develop disconnected apps and is supposed to have better HTML
integration - we'll see.  If you can figure out how to avoid displaying HTML
in your app (e.g., by displaying the HTML in a different frame altogether),
then Flex is very nice.  Flex functions can call Javascript and vice-versa.
Even though it's $$$, I think it's worth the money.
 
Regardless, get yourself a good console logger/debugger/inspector.  I use
FireBug for javascript and xpanel for Flex.
 
-dallan
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Askren
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:51 AM
To: LDS Open Source Software
Subject: [Ldsoss] Laslo vs Flex vs GWT vs ?



I know there are a lot of web developers out there.  I'm looking into the
various AJAX frameworks out there and was wondering if someone could give me
a run down of the advantages/disadvantages of the various frameworks.  I
know of Laslo, Flex, and GWT.  I believe these are all major players in the
AJAX world.  Are there other major players I'm missing?  Is there any
agreement over which is better than another?  Thanks. 
 
 
Jay
  

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