Re: stretchable systems
On 25-Aug-05, at 8:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to get this to apply to all the voices in a staff. From this, I
conclude that you could probably (?) say
\set Score.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-7 . 7)
to get it to apply to all the staves in a Score. There's a piece I'm
The best way to do this is like this:
\layout { \context { \Score
minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-7 . 7)
}}
Nicolas is trying to do something a bit more difficult; he wants to
have this set automatically, which is very tricky to program.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: stretchable systems
Section 10.1.6 "Vertical Spacing" of the user manual says that the default padding of every staff is specified by \set Staff.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-4 . 4) so you could force the staves further apart by doing that \set for each staff (but using a bigger value than 4, like #'(-7 . 7) And section 9.1.2 "Changing Context Properties on the Fly" has an example that says that \set autoBeaming = ##f is equivalent to \set Voice.autoBeaming = ##f because autoBeaming is a Voice property, but that one *could* say \set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f to get this to apply to all the voices in a staff. From this, I conclude that you could probably (?) say \set Score.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-7 . 7) to get it to apply to all the staves in a Score. There's a piece I'm going to have to apply this to in some form, but I'm still working on the actual music and haven't gotten down to the layout problems yet. If I'm wrong about the \set Score.-- conjecture for a Staff property, I'm sure someone will post a corrective message :) -- Tom Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Hi, Considering a piece with N-staff systems, with no room on a page for 3 systems, only for two, but with lot of space left, I can't find if it is possible to automatically enlarge (I hope that this word won't make this message marked as spam) the space between staves in a system, up to a certain distance, so that there should be less space between the two systems. Before: - page - /== |== \== /== |== \== - page - After: - page - /== | |== | \== /== | |== | \== - page - If this does not exist yet, but is sponsorable, I'm interested. nicolas PS: is there a problem with the mailing list search page? Searching on "staff" gives 0 results: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin /namazu.cgi?query=staff&idxname=lilypond-user &max=10&result=normal&sort=score ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Henrik Frisk wrote:
>
> > 1. Is it not possible to move the eps
> > graphic? I have tried \raise without success.
>
> > . . . I have tried a number of commands
> > apart from \raise . . .
>
> > \markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #"eps/nss.eps" }
>
> In the LilyPond 2.6.0 manual, section 8.1.7 says that \raise, \lower,
> and \translate cannot be used to displace entire scripts. But then in
> section 11.2.3 (around the middle of that section), there is an
> explanation of a trick to get around that limitation: writing
>
>\markup { "" \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) "foo bar" }
>
> would place the empty string ("") where Lily wants it, but then the
> string "foo bar" would be placed 2 units to the right of, and 5 units
> above, that empty string, so that in effect "foo bar" would wind up
> being placed where you wanted it. On that basis, it would be worth
> trying
>
> \markup { "" \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) \epsfile #"eps/nss.eps" }
>
> to see if that gives you the displacement you want.
>
> -- Tom
Well, after some fiddling around with this, this is how it works in the score I
am currently working on with LilyPond 2.7.7 on OSX.
\markup { "" \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) "foo bar" } => no effect
\markup { " " \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) "foo bar" } => displaced as intended
In both cases the single white space string can be replaced by \hspace #0.0 .
Same goes for \raise
This is what Mats pointed out in his reply, and I think that the example in
11.2.3, that I used as reference, this should be changed. I assume the same is
true if you define it as a scheme macro in which case this example from 11.2.3
will not work as intended (haven't tried it...):
#(def-markup-command (character layout props name) (string?)
"Print the character name in small caps, translated to the left and
top. Syntax: \\character #\"name\""
(interpret-markup layout props
(markup "" #:translate (cons -3 1) #:smallcaps name)))
Thank you all for the help.
/henrik
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Re: Compound time signatures
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cool! I would like this to be added to the tips & tricks. Just a > minor stylistic comment, for > > > (define hmoveDivOne > > (define hmoveDivTwo > > (define hmoveLastCol > > we usually use let* , ie > > (let* > ((var1 val1) > (var2 val2) > ) > ..body.. ) Sure. I'm glad if it can be of any use. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: stretchable systems
"Kris Shaffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:42:25 -0400, Nicolas Sceaux ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Considering a piece with N-staff systems, with no room on a page for 3 >> systems, only for two, but with lot of space left, I can't find if it is >> possible to automatically enlarge ^ > Yes, this is possible. See section 10.1.6 and 10.1.7 of the manual > for instructions on using minimumVerticalExtent and VerticalAlignment > #'forced-distance. The solution that you suggest is way far from automatic :-) Han-Wen answered to this on lilypond-devel. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Compound time signatures
Henrik Frisk wrote: Here's an expanded version of the compound-time.ly example in the Tips and Tricks section. It allows for different combinations of divisions such as 3/16 + 3/8 (provided that smaller divisions than 16ths are not used) and adjusts the spacing accordingly. A second version of the macro allows for compound time signatures such as 3+5/8. Here's an example and a PS: cool! I would like this to be added to the tips & tricks. Just a minor stylistic comment, for (define hmoveDivOne (define hmoveDivTwo (define hmoveLastCol we usually use let* , ie (let* ((var1 val1) (var2 val2) ) ..body.. ) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Compound time signatures
Here's an expanded version of the compound-time.ly example in the Tips and
Tricks section. It allows for different combinations of divisions such as 3/16
+ 3/8 (provided that smaller divisions than 16ths are not used) and adjusts the
spacing accordingly. A second version of the macro allows for compound time
signatures such as 3+5/8.
Here's an example and a PS:
% BEGIN SNIPPET %
\version "2.7.7"
#(define (compound-time grob one two divone divtwo)
(define hmoveDivOne
(if (equal? divone "16")
0.6
0.0))
(define hmoveDivTwo
(if (equal? divtwo "16")
0.6
0.0))
(define hmoveLastCol
(if (equal? divtwo "16")
-0.6
-0.3))
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 2)
(word-space . 1.5)
(font-family . number)))
(markup
#:line ( #:column ((#:translate (cons hmoveDivOne 0) one) divone)
#:lower 1 (#:translate (cons hmoveDivOne 0) "+")
(#:translate (cons hmoveLastCol 0) #:column ((#:translate (cons
hmoveDivTwo 0) two) divtwo))
#(define (compound-time-equal-div grob one two divone)
(define hmoveDiv
(if (equal? divone "16")
-0.8
-0.1))
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 2)
(word-space . 1.4)
(font-family . number)))
(markup
( #:line (one (#:column ( "+" (#:translate (cons hmoveDiv 0.) divone)))
(#:translate (cons -0.2 0) two))
\score {
\new Staff <<
{
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob "3" "5" "16" "8"))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob "5" "8" "8" "16"))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob "5" "8" "16" "16"))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time-equal-div grob "5" "8" "16"))
s16*13 |
\time 13/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time-equal-div grob "5" "8" "8"))
s8*13 |
}
>>
}
%% END SNIPPET %
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Re: stretchable systems
Yes, this is possible. See section 10.1.6 and 10.1.7 of the manual for instructions on using minimumVerticalExtent and VerticalAlignment #'forced-distance. You can also try making each staff a little smaller to fit the third system, if you prefer. -- Kris Shaffer graduate student in music theory, Yale University www.shaffermusic.com On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:42:25 -0400, Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Considering a piece with N-staff systems, with no room on a page for 3 systems, only for two, but with lot of space left, I can't find if it is possible to automatically enlarge (I hope that this word won't make this message marked as spam) the space between staves in a system, up to a certain distance, so that there should be less space between the two systems. Before: - page - /== |== \== /== |== \== - page - After: - page - /== | |== | \== /== | |== | \== - page - If this does not exist yet, but is sponsorable, I'm interested. nicolas PS: is there a problem with the mailing list search page? Searching on "staff" gives 0 results: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=staff&idxname=lilypond-user&max=10&result=normal&sort=score ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Thanks Mats, Now it works. regards, Hans. - Original Message - From: "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hans de Rijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:44 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override > Since the spacing is determined at the score level, you have to > explicitly set the property on the Score level. Try > \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #3.0 > > /Mats > > Hans de Rijck wrote: > > Tom, > > > > Thanks for the explanation, could you please check your list if: > > \override SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #3.0 > > is on it? It doesn't seem to do anything. > > > > thanks, > > > > Hans > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Hans de Rijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:05 AM > > Subject: Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override > > > > > > > >>Trevor Baca wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Change ... > >> > >>> \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) > >> > >>>to > >> > >>> \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) > >> > >>So you committed a Scheme error. Side remark: a Scheme error > >>always seems to result in a log file ending in a wistful > >> > >> Parsing... > >> > >>with no further information, like a message scratched on a wall by the > >>last human at the world's end. > >> > >>But at least you can be pretty sure that a Scheme error is the problem, > >>so you can use a fine-tooth comb on your Scheme expressions looking for > >>the error. I've taken to keeping a separate file with a handwritten list > >>of all the Scheme expressions that *do* work, as a help in finding my > >>coding faults. > >> > >>-- Tom > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- > = > Mats Bengtsson > Signal Processing > Signals, Sensors and Systems > Royal Institute of Technology > SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM > Sweden > Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 > Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe > = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Since the spacing is determined at the score level, you have to explicitly set the property on the Score level. Try \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #3.0 /Mats Hans de Rijck wrote: Tom, Thanks for the explanation, could you please check your list if: \override SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #3.0 is on it? It doesn't seem to do anything. thanks, Hans - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hans de Rijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override Trevor Baca wrote: Change ... \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) to \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) So you committed a Scheme error. Side remark: a Scheme error always seems to result in a log file ending in a wistful Parsing... with no further information, like a message scratched on a wall by the last human at the world's end. But at least you can be pretty sure that a Scheme error is the problem, so you can use a fine-tooth comb on your Scheme expressions looking for the error. I've taken to keeping a separate file with a handwritten list of all the Scheme expressions that *do* work, as a help in finding my coding faults. -- Tom ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
Tom, Thanks for the explanation, could you please check your list if: \override SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #3.0 is on it? It doesn't seem to do anything. thanks, Hans - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hans de Rijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override > > Trevor Baca wrote: > > > Change ... > > > \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) > > > to > > > \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1.8) > > So you committed a Scheme error. Side remark: a Scheme error > always seems to result in a log file ending in a wistful > > Parsing... > > with no further information, like a message scratched on a wall by the > last human at the world's end. > > But at least you can be pretty sure that a Scheme error is the problem, > so you can use a fine-tooth comb on your Scheme expressions looking for > the error. I've taken to keeping a separate file with a handwritten list > of all the Scheme expressions that *do* work, as a help in finding my > coding faults. > > -- Tom > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
Graham Percival wrote: Is \hspace #0 a stable construct? (if not, could we have a \null markup command that _is_ stable, and does the same thing as \hspace #0 ?) Yes, I think that a \null markup would be a sensible idea. I've added it to CVS. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you committed a Scheme error. Side remark: a Scheme error always seems to result in a log file ending in a wistful Parsing... with no further information, like a message scratched on a wall by the last human at the world's end. But at least you can be pretty sure that a Scheme error is the problem, so you can use a fine-tooth comb on your Scheme expressions looking for the error. I've taken to keeping a separate file with a handwritten list of all the Scheme expressions that *do* work, as a help in finding my coding faults. I guess we have to do a scm_set_current_error_port() for the windows release, to redirect GUILE error messages to the logfile too. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
stretchable systems
Hi, Considering a piece with N-staff systems, with no room on a page for 3 systems, only for two, but with lot of space left, I can't find if it is possible to automatically enlarge (I hope that this word won't make this message marked as spam) the space between staves in a system, up to a certain distance, so that there should be less space between the two systems. Before: - page - /== |== \== /== |== \== - page - After: - page - /== | |== | \== /== | |== | \== - page - If this does not exist yet, but is sponsorable, I'm interested. nicolas PS: is there a problem with the mailing list search page? Searching on "staff" gives 0 results: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=staff&idxname=lilypond-user&max=10&result=normal&sort=score ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond dies on hairpin override
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 13.47, Hans de Rijck wrote: > Hello. > > When I use a \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset LilyPond dies in > compilation. No errors or warnings. Log says: > > # -*-compilation-*- > Changing working directory to `G:/MusicCvt' > Processing `G:/MusicCvt/test.ly' > Parsing... > > > thats all. > > Using Win2k, version 2.6.3. Example file is attached. That's strange, I get (Ubuntu Linux): Parsing... error: Incorrect lilypond version: 2.6.3 (2.3.22, 2.6.0) error: Consider updating the input with the convert-ly script foo.ly:27:54: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = # ( 0 . -1.8 )Wrong type to apply: (0 . -1.8) foo.ly:27:56: error: syntax error, unexpected DIGIT \override Voice.Hairpin #'extra-offset = #( 0 . -1.8 ) etc. -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
