Re: bars and clefs

2005-11-03 Thread Guy Durrieu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> You might try
> 
>  \once \override Staff.Clef #'extra-X-extent = #'(-2 . 1)
>  \clef tenor
> 
> which would give you 2 more units of space to the left of the
> clef symbol and 1 more unit of space to the right of the clef.
> ("tenor":  sorry, I deleted so much e-mail that I've lost track
> of what clef you actually wanted.)
> 
> I'm sitting at a non-LilyPond machine at the moment, so I can't test
> that to verify it, but I've used similar commands to provide extra space
> to the left or right of various musical graphic objects ("grobs").
> 
> -- Tom
> 
> 
> 

Thanks for your help. I'll try that. I am aware of these commands, but
it is not easy for a beginner to find out the right command with the
right parameters. And they may be difficult to use since the other
objects stay where they are :)

Regards.

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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6->2.6.3

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 8:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Graham Percival wrote:


Insert the symbol directly into the lilypond file, just like accents
and non-latin characters.  See the docs for utf-8.


The docs for utf-8?  Are there documents that specify how to enter a
specific symbol in a text file if I have neither a built-in software
character map nor the unicode number for the symbol?


Well, no.  But I know that OSX and windows have built-in software 
character map, and I'm certain that many exist for linux and windows.


By "docs for utf-8", I just meant the portion of the lilypond docs that 
discuss utf-8 -- I thought that they mentioned a few cross-platform 
editors which supported utf8.


Cheers,
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Re: bars and clefs

2005-11-03 Thread stk
> . . . however, with a :|: bar, when
> inverting the order, the clef is almost stuck to it...

You might try

 \once \override Staff.Clef #'extra-X-extent = #'(-2 . 1)
 \clef tenor

which would give you 2 more units of space to the left of the
clef symbol and 1 more unit of space to the right of the clef.
("tenor":  sorry, I deleted so much e-mail that I've lost track
of what clef you actually wanted.)

I'm sitting at a non-LilyPond machine at the moment, so I can't test
that to verify it, but I've used similar commands to provide extra space
to the left or right of various musical graphic objects ("grobs").

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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6->2.6.3

2005-11-03 Thread stk
Graham Percival wrote:

> Insert the symbol directly into the lilypond file, just like accents
> and non-latin characters.  See the docs for utf-8.

The docs for utf-8?  Are there documents that specify how to enter a
specific symbol in a text file if I have neither a built-in software
character map nor the unicode number for the symbol?

Because of other discussions on this list, I know how to enter Latin-1
accented characters in utf-8 form, but I don't know how to enter an
em-dash or an en-dash, amongst other things.

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Lilypond 2.7.15 <----- Any news on a release for windows?

2005-11-03 Thread Trent J
Hi all,
 
Is there any news on when 2.7.15 will be released for windows... we seem to be 3 versions behind the rest at the moment..
 
Trent



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Re: foreign languages and caching bugs?

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 2:14 PM, Markian Hlynka wrote:


On Nov 3, 2005, at 14:18, Graham Percival wrote:
This is an issue with the OSX Preview application; it has nothing to 
do with non-latin text.  It has been discussed here before, but I 
don't think there's any solution planned.


that's a relief... I'm quite liking lilypond so far! But, um... so how 
can I open my pdfs with something else?


Please keep lilypond email traffic on the mailists, since other people 
may help or receive help from the discussion.  In addition, this is a 
better topic for lilypond-user than bug-lilypond.


Not with the standard lilypond app, but this app might do it:
http://edbaskerville.com/software/lilypad/

Thanks for the reply! Would you like to see an example of the other 
bug I posted?


Sorry, I can't help you with that one.

Cheers,
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Re: Lilypond on MEPIS

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 5:16 AM, Eddie Z wrote:


I have recently moved to Linux usiing MEPIS KDE Debian whatever.
Every time I find software that looks like it might be fun to 
investigate or even learn how to use I get to the installation and 
then have no idea how to move on from there.
Now I come across LILYPOND 2.6.4 and find the same problems. 
Everything I read says how easy LINUX is to use. Well I must be brain 
dead because I am studying, "The Complete Idiot's Guide, Moving to 
Linux and Linux for Dummies", and yes it all takes me so far and 
then?


This question should be directed to the lilypond-user mailist.

If you have installed lilypond, then please read the tutorial.  Try 
following the steps in it, section by section, until you feel 
comfortable with lilypond.


If you have trouble installing lilypond, you might want to read the 
documentation for your distribution.  The Debian manual has a lot of 
info that will help you, even if you are using an offshoot of debian.  
(this mepis kde thing)


Cheers,
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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 2:02 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

Graham Percival wrote:
The purpose of using lilypond-book here is just to stick multiple 
scores together, with page numbering.



Could you please remind me and others on why you could not simply do it
all within a .ly file:
\version "2.6.0"
\paper{
% For version 2.6:
scoreTitleMarkup = \bookTitleMarkup
% For version 2.7:
printallheaders = ##t
}

\include "piece1.ly"
\include "piece2.ly"
...

Now I remember one problem, namely that you have to move all 
\header{...}
blocks into the corresponding \score{...} block, otherwise all the 
pieces will

get the same title.


Interestingly, I didn't need to do that with 2.7.12 and printallheaders.


 But are there any other problems that you solve easier with
lilypond-book?


Yes.  The above produces:
collection.pdf   (includes piece1, with pages numbered 1 and 2)
collection-1.pdf   (includes piece2, with pages numbered 1 and 2 as 
well)

(assuming piece1 and 2 are both 2 pages)

Now, I _could_ manually set piece2 to start on page 3, and I could 
probably find some command-line tool to stick foo.pdf and foo-1.pdf 
together as fooall.pdf  (I know pstools can do this with ps files)... 
but I found it easier to use lilypond-book.


The automatic page numbering is a bigger issue than sticking pdfs 
together.  Once I've found the tool (pdftools ?), I can just include 
those commands in a script and have it done automatically.  But if I 
change the order of pieces in a collection, or add an extra page of 
text at the beginning or whatever, I'd have to change all the manual 
page numbers again.


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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 2:02 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

Not if you're using lilypond-book.  If you don't use \book, then you 
can't use \pageBreak in your scores.  There used to be a bug (in Aug) 
wherein the horizontal alignment of some systems was also messed up 
without \book; I'm not certain if that's still around.


That's a rather special issue and should be described in the 
lilypond-book
manual. I still find the information about \book in the main manual 
very

misleading, both in "8.1.4 Text markup", "10.1.12 Multiple movements"
and "5.8 File structure". If you agree, I can try to reformulate it.


Please do.  I'm still discovering facets of \book vs. non-book based on 
experimentation; the manual page on \book is extremely vague, but I 
don't feel that I know enough about \book to try to clarify the manual.


Cheers,
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Re: 2 conversion problems 2.4.6->2.6.3

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Percival


On 3-Nov-05, at 9:08 AM, Thomas Ruedas wrote:


understand at all what is meant by it - I can only say that I don't
see where I depart from the manual with respect to the beams. This is
the error message:
"Applying conversion: 2.5.0, 2.5.1, 2.5.2, 2.5.3, 2.5.12, 2.5.13,
2.5.17, 2.5.18, 2.5.21,
Not smart enough to convert auto beam settings
Auto beam settings must now specify each interesting moment in a
measure explicitely; 1/4 is no longer multiplied to cover moments 1/2
and 3/4 too.
Please refer to the manual for details, and update manually.
error while converting
Aborting"


This message refers to automatic beaming; it might be generated 
unnecessarily.  Try commenting out any automatic beaming setup, run 
convert-ly, then uncomment the automatic beaming.  If it still works, 
great; if not, see the 2.6/2.7 manual for the new format.



As I am at typography: previously I entered an en-dash in a title in
the TeX way as --, and it produced the expected result. This doesn't
work anymore, so how can I enter the en-dash now?


Insert the symbol directly into the lilypond file, just like accents 
and non-latin characters.  See the docs for utf-8.


Cheers,
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was markup/padding but now tremolo and that markup/padding with blank extra measures

2005-11-03 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence

Hello-
The solutions so far have produced very odd results.
Mostly in the form of extra blank measures for the markup words. 
Plus the :8 for crosses on the stems does not seem to be working and 
producing the 'partial' measure effect which is very confusing.


here's the whole file

\version "2.6.0"
\header {
 title = "Oud 129-132"
subtitle = "G major, arpeggio, andantino, Moderato"

 copyright = "For study purposes only"

}
melody = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4 g4 a8 b c d e fis | g4 a8 b c d e fis | g4 fis8 e d c bes a |
g4 fis8 e d c b a| g1 \bar "||"
g4 b d g | b d g d | b g d b | g1 \bar "||"

\tempo 4=80
\time 3/4
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Andantino }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
b4\mf c d | g,2.| g'4. g16 g-^ fis8 g | a2 d,4| b'2 a4| c2 a4| fis2 d4| 
d'2.|

e2 d8 c-^| b2 b8 c | d2 c8 b | a4. b16 a-^ g8 f | e2 d8 g| b2 a8 g-^|
a4. b16 a-^ g fis | g4 d8 b g4 \bar "||"
\time 3/8
\tempo 8=92
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
b8:8 d:8 g:8 |d:8 g:8 b:8 | g:8 b:8 d:8| g:8\f d:8 b:8 | g:8 b:8 d:8 
|e:8 c:8 a:8 |

fis:8 a:8 c:8 | d:8 b:8 g:8 | e:8 g:8 b:8 | c:8 a:8 fis:8 | d:8 fis:8 a:8 |
b:8 g:8 e:8 | c:8 e:8 g:8 | a:8 fis:8 d:8 | b:8 d:8 fis:8 | g:8 e:8 c:8 |
a:8 c:8 e:8 | fis:8 d:8 b:8 | g''16 d d b b g| fis' c c a a fis| e' b b 
g g e|
d' a a fis fis d | c' g g e e c |b' fis fis d d b| a' e e c c a| g' d d 
b b d |

g8 r r
\bar "||"
}

\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}

Thanks for the help.
Jay

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Nicolas Sceaux wrote:


Table of contents comes to mind.
I've made a reduction for voice+piano of Giulio Cesare for a singer,
who asked me to add a table of contents. 


ohhh! that's a fascinating problem! It should be doable in LilyPond, of 
course, but I'm putting it on "open to sponsor" list of features.





It is a fascinating problem all right, but if the table of contents
must be in the front pages of your document, it can turn ugly-ugly-ugly,
you might consider doing multiple passes, and you will have basically
reinvented LaTeX in the process :-)


Actually, it wouldn't. Lily keeps all pages in memory at the same time. 
I'd have to rewire the logic of composing pages (ie. putting headers and 
footers to them), and make a mechanism where you can transport 
information out of a \markup neatly. Things would only get hairy if the 
vertical space available on a page depends on the page number.


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Denemo

2005-11-03 Thread Aaron Mehl
Just in case someones interested:
--
Hi all,

After a long period of time denemo 0.7.4 has been
released.

New features include :

 Help Documentation
 Support for exporting to Lilypond 2.6
 All ornaments/articulations added
 Replace Mode
 Basic Redo/Undo Functionality for individual objects
 More Templates available
 Export to PDF (via lilypond processing) Courtesy of
Jens Askengren
 --

For those how are looking for a gui.

Aaron




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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-03 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence

This sort of worked, whereas the other two suggestions did not work at all.
However what it did not do was raise the word 'Moderato' above the tempo 
marking the word Pelleagato appears next to the tempo marking which 
would be sufficient/acceptable except I still don't know what is going on.
My guess is that s1^ is doing something even though it's doing something 
different in each case- which means that I don't know what/why.
I suspect that Han-Wen did answer thoroughly but I accidently deleted 
that response.

I apologize.
Jay

Martial wrote:





\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }



test this :

{
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
}




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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread darius
Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
> > Table of contents comes to mind.
> > I've made a reduction for voice+piano of Giulio Cesare for a singer,
> > who asked me to add a table of contents. 
> 
> ohhh! that's a fascinating problem! It should be doable in LilyPond, of 
> course, but I'm putting it on "open to sponsor" list of features.
> 

It is a fascinating problem all right, but if the table of contents
must be in the front pages of your document, it can turn ugly-ugly-ugly,
you might consider doing multiple passes, and you will have basically
reinvented LaTeX in the process :-)







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New and bug-free 2.6.4-4 for Windows [WAS: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?]

2005-11-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

> Thanks for your efforts! However, is it really that hard to make a simple
> test case yourself? There are still a number of problems to solve:

Please have a look at the new and bug-free 2.6.4-4!  Python and argv0
relocation should both work now (at least, they work for me :-)

Jan.

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Re: Adding a new feture

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys


Jannik Jeppesen wrote:

 Though there is a slight problem, for me in drummode.
 If I am adding accents and sticking at the same time, or in general 
if the sticking is under the staff... They will not stand in a 
straight line. Is it possible to add this futue?

> Im sending the file.
>
> It´s from bar 34 and forward... dont know if you can help???

You want the H and the V to appear in the same horizontal line, right?
Try staff-padding

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Arthur Dyck
On Thursday 03 November 2005 02:35 pm, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> Arthur Dyck wrote:
> > I'm not sure I understand what it is you want to do with this plugin.  If
> > it is just a matter of updating the pdf once you have edited the .ly
> > file, Scribus has a feature where you can select your pdf image and there
> > is an Update feature.  I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you could
> > just do your editing, create your pdf, go over to Scribus and Update your
> > image.
>
> Yes, but you have to work with multiple files, and multiple
> applications. That gets tiresome and errorprone if you have many (over
> 40) fragments.


Maybe I'm living in blissful ignorance of the problems that are ahead of me.  
The project I'm working on will have well over a hundred fragments.

Arthur


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Arthur Dyck wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what it is you want to do with this plugin.  If it 
is just a matter of updating the pdf once you have edited the .ly file, 
Scribus has a feature where you can select your pdf image and there is an 
Update feature.  I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you could just do your 
editing, create your pdf, go over to Scribus and Update your image.


Yes, but you have to work with multiple files, and multiple 
applications. That gets tiresome and errorprone if you have many (over 
40) fragments.


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Re: Adding a new feture

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Jannik Jeppesen wrote:

Hi... Great prog.
 
Though there is a slight problem, for me in drummode.
 
If I am adding accents and sticking at the same time, or in general if 
the sticking is under the staff... They will not stand in a straight 
line. Is it possible to add this futue?


It's probably possible, but can you provide an example in an image? It's 
not entirely clear what you mean.




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Adding a new feture

2005-11-03 Thread Jannik Jeppesen



Hi... Great prog.
 
Though there is a slight problem, for me in 
drummode.
 
If I am adding accents and sticking at the same 
time, or in general if the sticking is under the staff... They will not stand in 
a straight line. Is it possible to add this futue?
 
If already added, please let me know.
 
Best reguards 
Jannik Jeppesen
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Re: problem or bug?

2005-11-03 Thread liang seng

To Mr. Edward Neeman,
 Hi, thank you very much for your reply. The \override worked. However, 
since you mentioned that this could be a bug, should I report it? (This 
happened on both versions 2.6.3 and 2.7.12 that I tested)

Thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Seng Liang.




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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Arthur Dyck
On Thursday 03 November 2005 11:16 am, Stephen Corey wrote:
> Henrik Frisk wrote:
> >Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Henrik Frisk wrote:
> That would actually be pretty neat...
> 
> Sponsored feature, anyone?
> >>>
> >>>This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you
> >>>mean. Once
> >>>I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
> >>>the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
> >>>with the old one?
> >>
> >>Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you
> >>only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.
> >>
> >>>If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.
> >>
> >>That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd
> >>have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess
> >>that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.
> >
> >Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
> >valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?
> >
> >/henrik
>
> Hello, this is my newbie post.  I've been using Lilypond with jEdit for
> about 2 months now for arranging instrumental parts.  The only challenge
> has been learning some of the syntax but I can't complain.  You have
> done a wonderful job with this software.  I'd be interested in helping
> to support getting this Scribus feature up and running.  Also, are there
> any user groups in the Eastern U.S. or parties interested in perhaps a
> workshop?
>
> Stephen Corey
> Richmond, Virginia, USA
>
I'm not sure I understand what it is you want to do with this plugin.  If it 
is just a matter of updating the pdf once you have edited the .ly file, 
Scribus has a feature where you can select your pdf image and there is an 
Update feature.  I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you could just do your 
editing, create your pdf, go over to Scribus and Update your image.

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Nicolas Sceaux wrote:

Table of contents comes to mind.
I've made a reduction for voice+piano of Giulio Cesare for a singer,
who asked me to add a table of contents. 


ohhh! that's a fascinating problem! It should be doable in LilyPond, of 
course, but I'm putting it on "open to sponsor" list of features.


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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread darius
Quoting Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Could you please remind me and others on why you could not simply do it
> > all within a .ly file:
> > \version "2.6.0"
> > \paper{
> > % For version 2.6:
> > scoreTitleMarkup = \bookTitleMarkup
> > % For version 2.7:
> > printallheaders = ##t
> > }
> >
> > \include "piece1.ly"
> > \include "piece2.ly"
> > ...
> >
> > Now I remember one problem, namely that you have to move all \header{...}
> > blocks into the corresponding \score{...} block, otherwise all the
> > pieces will
> > get the same title. But are there any other problems that you solve
> > easier with
> > lilypond-book?
> 
> Table of contents comes to mind.
> I've made a reduction for voice+piano of Giulio Cesare for a singer,
> who asked me to add a table of contents. Argh. But apart from that, I
> don't really see the advantage of using lilypond-book for a document
> with little text. With longer text across pages, it's another story.
> 
> nicolas
> 

Table of contents, various performance notes, exotic stuff (an ostinato
part where the same bar is played 157 times, printed just once with
some explanation), etc...

I'm not sure I would not be able to achieve the same with plain Lilypond
though, but I doubt it will provide the flexibility of LaTeX. Besides,
I don't feel like learning yet another markup language :-) LaTeX took
me long enough, thank you very much !!!

Lilypond-book does a great job for me... but experience has shown that
most other people and I do not use Lilypond for the same things, so my 
opinion is of limited scope here.

Darius.





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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Could you please remind me and others on why you could not simply do it
> all within a .ly file:
> \version "2.6.0"
> \paper{
> % For version 2.6:
> scoreTitleMarkup = \bookTitleMarkup
> % For version 2.7:
> printallheaders = ##t
> }
>
> \include "piece1.ly"
> \include "piece2.ly"
> ...
>
> Now I remember one problem, namely that you have to move all \header{...}
> blocks into the corresponding \score{...} block, otherwise all the
> pieces will
> get the same title. But are there any other problems that you solve
> easier with
> lilypond-book?

Table of contents comes to mind.
I've made a reduction for voice+piano of Giulio Cesare for a singer,
who asked me to add a table of contents. Argh. But apart from that, I
don't really see the advantage of using lilypond-book for a document
with little text. With longer text across pages, it's another story.

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Marc Weber
> >Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
> >valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

Why not ask the Scribus developpers wether they are interested...
It would be a feature no other DTP-software has... ;-)

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2 conversion problems 2.4.6->2.6.3

2005-11-03 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi,
I am trying to convert some lilypond sources from 2.4.6 to 2.6.3 (as 
delivered with SUSE 10.0) and encounter two problems:
1.) convert-ly aborts when invoked as "convert-ly PianoSonataB_2.ly" 
on the command line, although this file compiled without problems 
under 2.4.6, and 2.6.3 also handles the old format quite well. The 
error message is posted below (and is then followed by a screen 
output of the entire file, which I don't include here). I don't 
understand at all what is meant by it - I can only say that I don't 
see where I depart from the manual with respect to the beams. This is 
the error message:
"Applying conversion: 2.5.0, 2.5.1, 2.5.2, 2.5.3, 2.5.12, 2.5.13, 
2.5.17, 2.5.18, 2.5.21,
Not smart enough to convert auto beam settings
Auto beam settings must now specify each interesting moment in a 
measure explicitely; 1/4 is no longer multiplied to cover moments 1/2 
and 3/4 too.
Please refer to the manual for details, and update manually.
error while converting
Aborting"
2.) The other problem concerns the width of the braces at the 
beginning of the piano staff. While these were just perfect in the 
old version, they are too wide in the new one, although I didn't 
change anything in the source. How is that possible, and how do I fix 
it?
As I am at typography: previously I entered an en-dash in a title in 
the TeX way as --, and it produced the expected result. This doesn't 
work anymore, so how can I enter the en-dash now?
Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-03 Thread Martial




\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }


test this :


{
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
}


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Stephen Corey

Henrik Frisk wrote:


Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Henrik Frisk wrote:
   


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

   


This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you
mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one?
 


Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you
only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.

   


If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.
 


That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd
have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess
that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.

   


Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

/henrik



 

Hello, this is my newbie post.  I've been using Lilypond with jEdit for 
about 2 months now for arranging instrumental parts.  The only challenge 
has been learning some of the syntax but I can't complain.  You have 
done a wonderful job with this software.  I'd be interested in helping 
to support getting this Scribus feature up and running.  Also, are there 
any user groups in the Eastern U.S. or parties interested in perhaps a 
workshop?


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Re: bars and clefs

2005-11-03 Thread Guy Durrieu
Mats Bengtsson wrote :
> This order is specified by the break-align-orders property of the
> BreakAlignment object, see
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/BreakAlignment.html#BreakAlignment
> 

Thanks for your help. That works ; however, with a :|: bar, when
inverting the order, the clef is almost stuck to it...

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Re: tiny ties

2005-11-03 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Same problem here.
I tried:

\override Voice.Tie #'minimum-length = #5

but this has no effect.

I don't understand "This requires an appropriate routine for the 
spacing-procedure property" from the manual, though.

Is any other setting neccesary to make it work?

Thank you,
Thomas

LilyPond 2.7.12, Windows XP

> Did you try to change the minimum-length property?
> What LilyPond version, by the way?
> 
> /Mats
> 
> Edward Neeman wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > I have some ties at the end of a line that appear
> > unreadably small, like little dots.  It seems that
> > \overriding the Tie 'control-points doesn't work
> > anymore (bug?)  Is there any way to increase the size
> > of these ties?
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Edward Neeman
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Re: bars and clefs

2005-11-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson

This order is specified by the break-align-orders property of the
BreakAlignment object, see
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/BreakAlignment.html#BreakAlignment

So, to modify this for clef changes in the middle of a line, for example,
you could do;

\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #'(
   ;; end of line
   (instrument-name
  left-edge
  ambitus
  breathing-sign
  clef
  staff-bar
  key-cancellation
  key-signature
  time-signature
  custos)

 ;; unbroken
 (instrument-name
  left-edge
  ambitus
  breathing-sign
;;  Default order:
;;   clef
;;   staff-bar
;; Modified into:
  staff-bar
  clef
  key-cancellation
  key-signature
  staff
  time-signature custos)

 ;; begin of line
 (instrument-name
  left-edge
  ambitus
  breathing-sign
  clef
  key-cancellation
  key-signature
  staff-bar
  time-signature
  custos)))


  /Mats

Guy Durrieu wrote:


Hello,

When specifying a clef change after a bar (for exemple a repeat bar),
the clef is placed before the  bar. I would like to know if there is a
mean to ask a clef change to be placed after the bar.

Thanks in advance for your help !

 



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bars and clefs

2005-11-03 Thread Guy Durrieu


Hello,

When specifying a clef change after a bar (for exemple a repeat bar),
the clef is placed before the  bar. I would like to know if there is a
mean to ask a clef change to be placed after the bar.

Thanks in advance for your help !

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Henrik Frisk
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Henrik Frisk wrote:
> >>
> >>That would actually be pretty neat...
> >>
> >>Sponsored feature, anyone?
> >>
> > This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you
> > mean. Once
> > I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
> > the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
> > with the old one?
> 
> Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you
> only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.
> 
> > If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.
> 
> That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd
> have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess
> that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.
> 
Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

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Re: Alligned articulations

2005-11-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson

A related question: Why does not staff-padding have any effect on
articulations? Is it since the ScriptColumns override the layout?

  /Mats

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Peter Mogensen wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying to figure out how to allign a group of accents, so they
appear at the same vertical position. This code shows the problem not
solved:



is this customary in drum notation?


===

\version "2.6.3"

\paper {
  raggedright = ##t
}

\new DrumStaff <<
  \new DrumVoice {
\drummode { hh-> hho-> hh-> hho-> }
  }



I guess I could do it by putting invisible \open on the hh notes.
But how? ... or is there another way?



The easy  way out is to reverse the stacking order of the scripts, or 
to make one of them appear underneath the notes.





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Re: \book usage

2005-11-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Graham Percival wrote:



On 2-Nov-05, at 4:06 AM, Gilles wrote:


\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\lilypondfile{1allegro/score.ly}
\liypondfile{2largo/score.ly}
\end{document}



If I understand correctly, this is to make it possible to insert
text between the different movements (as is the purpose of \book).
Right?



The purpose of using lilypond-book here is just to stick multiple 
scores together, with page numbering.



Could you please remind me and others on why you could not simply do it
all within a .ly file:
\version "2.6.0"
\paper{
% For version 2.6:
scoreTitleMarkup = \bookTitleMarkup
% For version 2.7:
printallheaders = ##t
}

\include "piece1.ly"
\include "piece2.ly"
...

Now I remember one problem, namely that you have to move all \header{...}
blocks into the corresponding \score{...} block, otherwise all the 
pieces will
get the same title. But are there any other problems that you solve 
easier with

lilypond-book?


--- 1allegro/score.ly



According to Han-Wen's remark, with or without \book here, the
result should be the same.



Not if you're using lilypond-book.  If you don't use \book, then you 
can't use \pageBreak in your scores.  There used to be a bug (in Aug) 
wherein the horizontal alignment of some systems was also messed up 
without \book; I'm not certain if that's still around.


That's a rather special issue and should be described in the lilypond-book
manual. I still find the information about \book in the main manual very
misleading, both in "8.1.4 Text markup", "10.1.12 Multiple movements"
and "5.8 File structure". If you agree, I can try to reformulate it.

  /Mats


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Re: Alligned articulations

2005-11-03 Thread Peter Mogensen
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out how to allign a group of accents, so they
>> appear at the same vertical position. This code shows the problem not
>> solved:
>  
> is this customary in drum notation?

Don't know... but I have a drummer asking me how to do it, and I agree
that it would look better and be more readable.

> The easy  way out is to reverse the stacking order of the scripts, or to
> make one of them appear underneath the notes.

Won't work, since in the real score there's also snare, bassdrum and
other instruments which already uses the space under the staff.

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Re: Alligned articulations

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Peter Mogensen wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to figure out how to allign a group of accents, so they
appear at the same vertical position. This code shows the problem not
solved:


is this customary in drum notation?


===

\version "2.6.3"

\paper {
  raggedright = ##t
}

\new DrumStaff <<
  \new DrumVoice {
\drummode { hh-> hho-> hh-> hho-> }
  }



I guess I could do it by putting invisible \open on the hh notes.
But how? ... or is there another way?


The easy  way out is to reverse the stacking order of the scripts, or to 
make one of them appear underneath the notes.



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Re: tiny ties

2005-11-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Did you try to change the minimum-length property?
What LilyPond version, by the way?

   /Mats

Edward Neeman wrote:

Hi list,

I have some ties at the end of a line that appear
unreadably small, like little dots.  It seems that
\overriding the Tie 'control-points doesn't work
anymore (bug?)  Is there any way to increase the size
of these ties?

Many thanks,
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Alligned articulations

2005-11-03 Thread Peter Mogensen
Hi,

I'm trying to figure out how to allign a group of accents, so they
appear at the same vertical position. This code shows the problem not
solved:
===

\version "2.6.3"

\paper {
  raggedright = ##t
}

\new DrumStaff <<
  \new DrumVoice {
\drummode { hh-> hho-> hh-> hho-> }
  }
>>


I guess I could do it by putting invisible \open on the hh notes.
But how? ... or is there another way?

Peter



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