Re: tex backend

2007-02-11 Thread Till Rettig

Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:14:55 +0100
From: "Dr. Johannes Zellner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tex backend
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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You wrote:
See also my other post from today where I ask how I could get a font
like (in latex)

   \newfont{\lyfontFont}{texnansi-anttr scaled 1440}

for the lilypond lyrics.

I guess lilypond-book would perfectly do the job if I could manage to
get this font for the font lyrics.

I tried

   \override Score . LyricText #'font-name = #"texnansi-anttr"

but this didn't work.

As far as I have understood this it is fairly easy to use otf fonts with 
lilypond, there is a part in the documentation, I don't just remember the exact 
part but you will find it, it is about using other fonts (in the example times 
and arial, I think). Just insert this kind of line into the head of your files 
and you will get the font globally converted.
With #(ly:font-config-display-fonts) you get all fonts that can be used by 
lilypond in an easy way of inserting the line:
\override #'(font-name . "Warnock Pro" -- change the name to something you 
have. Lilypond is looking for fonts in the fonts direcotry via pango, so the normal way 
you install fonts on your debian should do it.

Since you use Antykwa torunska (is that right) they distribution also includes 
otf fonts of the same font. Just pick them from there tex path and copy them to 
the font directory, run the font update mechanism and it should show in the 
list given from the first command in my mail.

hope this helpes you.

Greetings
Till



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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Graham Percival

Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:13:36PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:

>

lilypond $f &> $f.log



Yeah, I eventually got that, or something pretty close. It can be pretty
useful. I might write a page for the docs regarding batch processing.
The main problem, of course, is that this is OS dependent.


Well, kind-of.  I mean, every serious operating system has bash 
installed.  ;)
(or users who know the difference between that and csh, ksh, or whatever 
they use).



The other obvious place is in section 13.1, since that's where I went
first to see if there were options to help with log files and the
like. This is my preference.


I'd probably put it in chapter 13, with one or two sentences somewhere 
in chapters 3-5 to pique people's interest.




(What would be really nice, but
getting-off-topic-and-besides-I-don't-want-to-do-it would be a tutorial about
how to use Makefiles and preprocessors with LilyPond.


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-01/msg00181.html



(I know there are
a few people who do such things. I don't think it would belong in the
LilyPond docs per se, and thus not really our concern, but if somebody
were to do such a thing it could be useful to a lot of Lily users.)


If something is useful, not redundant, and the author wishes to place it 
under GNU FDL, I'll find a place for it in the lilypond manual.  Even if 
I have to make a new chapter just for it.


Cheers,
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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:13:36PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
> Cameron Horsburgh wrote:
> >On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:40:45AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
> >>Cameron Horsburgh wrote:
> >>>I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the
> >>>entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I
> >>>might be able to do this?
> >>for f in *.ly ; do lilypond $f > $f.log ; done;
> >>
> >>Something like that, at least.
> >>
> >
> >Yeah, that's what I tried first. It seems the output is on stderr,
> >not stdout.
> 
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
> 
> lilypond $f &> $f.log
> 

Yeah, I eventually got that, or something pretty close. It can be pretty
useful. I might write a page for the docs regarding batch processing.
The main problem, of course, is that this is OS dependent.

If I were to do that, where would be the best place to put it? Two
places come to mind -- first, 4.1.3 might be expanded to suggest using
separate files for each part in an ensemble. That's the main use I
have for batch processing -- twenty music files for each instrument
which are \include-d in instrumental parts and similarly combined in a
conductor's score. I'll normally run that with a for-do-done loop. (Is
this set up explained in the manual? I think it was once, but it might
have moved.) 

The other obvious place is in section 13.1, since that's where I went
first to see if there were options to help with log files and the
like. This is my preference.

Experience tells me that different commands operate differently, too.
For example, 'convert-ly -e *ly' works as expected. 'lilypond *ly'
works, but with a huge load on the machine, like it's processing all
files concurrently.

(What would be really nice, but
getting-off-topic-and-besides-I-don't-want-to-do-it would be a tutorial about
how to use Makefiles and preprocessors with LilyPond. I know there are
a few people who do such things. I don't think it would belong in the
LilyPond docs per se, and thus not really our concern, but if somebody
were to do such a thing it could be useful to a lot of Lily users.)

Thoughts?


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Re: doc update needed 2.11.x

2007-02-11 Thread Graham Percival

Stan Sanderson wrote:

Documentation for LilyPond 2.11.17, Section 7.5.7, Other guitar issues-
guitar position/barring indication syntax has not been updated. The 
included snippet shows a dashed line with no bar numeral.


Thanks, updated.

Cheers,
- Graham


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creating image files using lilypond and php

2007-02-11 Thread Mark Oates
I am looking for a php library that would allow me to create lilypond notation
through a web interface, and have it return an image file.  Has anyone done
something like this or is it possible?



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Re: tex backend

2007-02-11 Thread Dr. Johannes Zellner
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 09:40:15PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> The TeX backend hasn't been actively supported for a long time
> now, so it's not a surprise that it doesn't work.
> 
> Why do you want to use it?
> 

well, I used it with a former version of lilypond to get the same font
for lyrics as in latex. I used a pretty old version of "lilypond -k" 
which kept the tex output files where I could then replace the font with
the desired tex font.

See also my other post from today where I ask how I could get a font
like (in latex)

\newfont{\lyfontFont}{texnansi-anttr scaled 1440}

for the lilypond lyrics.

I guess lilypond-book would perfectly do the job if I could manage to
get this font for the font lyrics.

I tried

\override Score . LyricText #'font-name = #"texnansi-anttr"

but this didn't work.

I've on my (debian) system

/usr/share/texmf-tetex/fonts/tfm/public/antt/texnansi-anttr.tfm

which can be used by latex, but apparently not by lilypond.

-- 
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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Graham Percival

Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:40:45AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:

Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the
entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I
might be able to do this?

for f in *.ly ; do lilypond $f > $f.log ; done;

Something like that, at least.



Yeah, that's what I tried first. It seems the output is on stderr,
not stdout.


http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html

lilypond $f &> $f.log


Cheers,
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Re: clashing notes

2007-02-11 Thread Trevor Bača

On 2/11/07, Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Feb 11, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Tiago Morin wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm trying to reduce beamed stem length to avoid stem clash:
> <<{g'2}\\{
> \stemUp
> \override Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.25 )
> g8[ d'] f'[ d']
> }\\{ \stemDown g2}>>
>
> the Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths allows to increase the stem
> but not reduce... :(
>
> any suggestions?
>
> Thank's
>
> Tiago Morin

Tiago-

The solution to my problem proposed by Trevor yesterday seems to work
with your example (using rather extreme values):

\version "2.11.17"
<<{g'2}\\{
\stemUp
\once \override Beam #'positions = #'(-2.9  . -0.8)
g8[ d'] f'[ d']
}\\{ \stemDown g2}>>

Lily does still complain of clashing note columns.



If you're happy with the layout of stems and beams, then there's a
magic switch to insert at the Score-level context and override the
clashing note column warnings.

%%% BEGIN %%%

\version "2.11.16"

\new Score \with {
  \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
} {
  \new Staff <<
 {g'2}\\{
 \stemUp
 \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(-2.9  . -0.8)
 g8[ d'] f'[ d']
 }\\{ \stemDown g2}
  >>
}

%%% END %%




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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:40:45AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote:
> Cameron Horsburgh wrote:
> >I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the
> >entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I
> >might be able to do this?
> 
> for f in *.ly ; do lilypond $f > $f.log ; done;
> 
> Something like that, at least.
> 

Yeah, that's what I tried first. It seems the output is on stderr,
not stdout.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond

2007-02-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Thomas Toczkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just discoverd your great programm its cool to be able to set my own 
> melodies to paper... but i have a problem with the examples ... i can only 
> open, the first "a little skale" nothing else... 
> there is always this error:
>
> # -*-compilation-*-
> aktuelles Verzeichnis kann nicht 
> zu »D:/Latech/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly« geändert werden
> »D:/Latech/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/deutsch.ly« wird verarbeitet
> Analysieren...
>
> don't know what to do...

It looks like LilyPond cannot handle multiple-rooted filesystems.  Can you
try installing LilyPond on C:\ and see if that helps?

Greetings,
Jan.

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Re: tex backend

2007-02-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The TeX backend hasn't been actively supported for a long time
now, so it's not a surprise that it doesn't work.

Why do you want to use it?

  /Mats

Quoting "Dr. Johannes Zellner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi,

I'm desperately trying to use the tex backend (as I'd like to do some
"manual" modifications to the tex output). I tried both lilypond 2.8.7
as it comes with debian and 2.10.16-1 as downloaded from lilypond.org.
Both give:

   lilypond -b tex -f tex test.ly
   ...
   Calculating page breaks...
   Layout output to `test.tex'...ERROR: Unbound variable: pages

Any ideas?

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Re: Bad number of pages (?!) Error

2007-02-11 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 05:47:13PM +, Marc Dimmick wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I am using lilypond 2.10.14 on a windows XP SP2. I have been doing little 
> exercises to learn the Lilypong syntax.
> 
> When I use to example below, lilypon creates the report copied in the bottowm 
> and the generates a "Lilypond has found en error and must close" message, 
> with 
> the option to send the report.
> 
> I hope that someone can tell me what I am doing wrong. I am really confused. 
> Could it also be that some application has been corrupted?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Marc.
> 
> % little piano score 2007/01/31
> 
> \version "2.10.14"
> 
> \header {
> title = "Piano Score"
>   }
> 
> \score {
>   \new PianoStaff <<
>   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano  "
>   \new Staff = "upper" \clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4 { 
> c''2 d''4 bes4 }
>   \new Staff = "lower" \clef bass \key c \major \time 4/4 { c4 f2 
> g4 }
>   >>
> \layout { }
>   }


You have the braces around your music in the wrong place. The \clef,
key etc are all part of the music expressions. Try this:


% little piano score 2007/01/31 %Fixed, but untested:

\version "2.10.14"

\header {
title = "Piano Score"
}

\score {
   \new PianoStaff <<
   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano  "
   \new Staff = "upper" {\clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4  c''2 d''4 bes4 }
   \new Staff = "lower" {\clef bass \key c \major \time 4/4  c4 f2 g4 }
   >>
\layout { }
}




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Re: clashing notes

2007-02-11 Thread Stan Sanderson


On Feb 11, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Tiago Morin wrote:


Hi

I'm trying to reduce beamed stem length to avoid stem clash:
<<{g'2}\\{
\stemUp
\override Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.25 )
g8[ d'] f'[ d']
}\\{ \stemDown g2}>>

the Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths allows to increase the stem
but not reduce... :(

any suggestions?

Thank's

Tiago Morin


Tiago-

The solution to my problem proposed by Trevor yesterday seems to work  
with your example (using rather extreme values):


\version "2.11.17"
<<{g'2}\\{
\stemUp
\once \override Beam #'positions = #'(-2.9  . -0.8)
g8[ d'] f'[ d']
}\\{ \stemDown g2}>>

Lily does still complain of clashing note columns.

Stan




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Lyric Ties

2007-02-11 Thread Aaron Dalton
I'm setting a Renaissance madrigal and am getting a series of
compilation errors with regards to lyric ties.

programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming.
Skipping glyph U+1000203F, file
/home/aaron/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf//CenturySchL-Roma.otf
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name returns error
continuing, cross fingers

Now, the documentation says that I have to make sure I have an
appropriate font to render this glyph.  The font listed (DejaVuLGC) does
not come with the Lilypond FreeBSD package.  Is there a packaged font I
need to use to font to render this glyph.  The font listed (DejaVuLGC)
does not come with the Lilypond FreeBSD package.  Is there a packaged
font I need to use to render these ties?  If it's an external font, how
do I install that into the FreeBSD Lilypond tree so it's seen?

Thank you for your time and assistance!

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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Graham Percival

Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the
entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I
might be able to do this?


for f in *.ly ; do lilypond $f > $f.log ; done;

Something like that, at least.

Cheers,
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Re: subbeams in tuplets [fr: barres de notes dans un triolet]

2007-02-11 Thread Mark Knoop
At 18:48 on 11 Feb 2007, Jean-Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le 11.02.2007 13:49, philippe hezaine disait on the French ML:
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> >  \version "2.10.16"
> > Quelqu'un sait-il comment, dans le  sextolet, je peux obtenir
> > une croche et 4 doubles sans que les barres soient détachées?
> 
> The problem: a  4/4 measure containing a tuplet composed of
> 1 eighth note and 4 sixteenth beamed 1-1-3 instead of 1-4.
> 
> I have tried many solutions (makemoment, stemLfetBeam and 
> stemRightBeam...) without success

I was going to suggest using \times 2/3 instead of 4/6, but tested it
first and got the same results. This would seem to be a bug to me: a
quaver triplet should not beam as two groups of three semiquavers.

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Re: subbeams in tuplets [fr: barres de notes dans un triolet]

2007-02-11 Thread Jean-Charles

Le 11.02.2007 13:49, philippe hezaine disait on the French ML:

Bonjour,

 \version "2.10.16"
Quelqu'un sait-il comment, dans le  sextolet, je peux obtenir
une croche et 4 doubles sans que les barres soient détachées?


The problem: a  4/4 measure containing a tuplet composed of
1 eighth note and 4 sixteenth beamed 1-1-3 instead of 1-4.

I have tried many solutions (makemoment, stemLfetBeam and 
stemRightBeam...) without success



Here is the code and the image of what we would like to obtain.

TIA

Jean-Charles
\version "2.10.16"
\paper {
  #(define dump-extents #t)
  force-assignment = #""
  indent = 0\mm
  line-width = 60\mm
  line-width = #(- line-width (* mm  3.00))
}
  \header {
   title = "Subbeam in tuplets"
 }
\score { \relative c'' {
   \time 1/4
   \times 4/6 { d8^"automatic behaviour" e16 d16 e16 d16} \break
   \times 4/6 { d16^"detailed version"~d e d e d } \break
   \time 3/8
   d8[^"how I would like it" e16 d16 e d]
}
  \layout {ragged-right = ##t}
}



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Bad number of pages (?!) Error

2007-02-11 Thread Marc Dimmick
Hi!

I am using lilypond 2.10.14 on a windows XP SP2. I have been doing little 
exercises to learn the Lilypong syntax.

When I use to example below, lilypon creates the report copied in the bottowm 
and the generates a "Lilypond has found en error and must close" message, with 
the option to send the report.

I hope that someone can tell me what I am doing wrong. I am really confused. 
Could it also be that some application has been corrupted?

Thanks in advance,

Marc.

% little piano score 2007/01/31

\version "2.10.14"

\header {
title = "Piano Score"
}

\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\set PianoStaff.instrumentName = "Piano  "
\new Staff = "upper" \clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4 { 
c''2 d''4 bes4 }
\new Staff = "lower" \clef bass \key c \major \time 4/4 { c4 f2 
g4 }
>>
\layout { }
}

# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `C:/Documents and Settings/Marc/Desktop'
Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/Marc/Desktop/pianoscore.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [4]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
programming error: tried to space systems on a bad number of pages
continuing, cross fingers




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clashing notes

2007-02-11 Thread Tiago Morin
Hi

I'm trying to reduce beamed stem length to avoid stem clash:
<<{g'2}\\{
\stemUp
\override Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.25 )
g8[ d'] f'[ d']
}\\{ \stemDown g2}>>

the Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths allows to increase the stem
but not reduce... :(

any suggestions?

Thank's

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using tex fonts for lyrics and titles

2007-02-11 Thread Dr. Johannes Zellner
Hello,

I've a latex file with embedded lilypond parts. I'd like to use the very
same font for the lilypond lyrics as for the rest of the latex file. Suppose,
I've in my latex file:

\newfont{\lyfontFont}{texnansi-anttr scaled 1440}
\newcommand{\lyfont}{
  \lyfontFont
  \setlength{\baselineskip}{20pt}
}

how can I use \lyfont for lilypond lyrics?

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Problems with Lilypond

2007-02-11 Thread Thomas Toczkowski
Hello, 
I just discoverd your great programm its cool to be able to set my own 
melodies to paper... but i have a problem with the examples ... i can only 
open, the first "a little skale" nothing else... 
there is always this error:

# -*-compilation-*-
aktuelles Verzeichnis kann nicht 
zu »D:/Latech/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly« geändert werden
»D:/Latech/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/deutsch.ly« wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...

don't know what to do...

thanks for your help

Thomas Toczkowski



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Re: Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Geoff Horton

Do you need to redirect stderr instead?

Geoff


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Catching error messages

2007-02-11 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Hi folks,

I'm trying to batch process a whole lot (150+) of ly files. I'm able
to process them, but a lot of them are producing errors that I'd like
to be able to catch in some organised way. I've tried simply directing
stdout to a file, but that doesn't seem to work (I'm running Debian
GNU/Linux, BTW). 

I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the
entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I
might be able to do this?
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tex backend

2007-02-11 Thread Dr. Johannes Zellner
Hi,

I'm desperately trying to use the tex backend (as I'd like to do some
"manual" modifications to the tex output). I tried both lilypond 2.8.7
as it comes with debian and 2.10.16-1 as downloaded from lilypond.org.
Both give:

lilypond -b tex -f tex test.ly
...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `test.tex'...ERROR: Unbound variable: pages

Any ideas?

-- 
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Re: 2 problems

2007-02-11 Thread stk

Hi,

Your .ly file contains the line

   \key = { \key a \major }

I don't think there are any legal LilyPond expressions of the form

   \foo = anythingatall

Did you mean to write something like

   mykey = { \key a \major }

?

However, I don't understand the error message the system gave you.

-- Tom



rpalmer wrote:

I also am having problems with the file structure, so I decided to start
simply, and from scratch, but I'm having problems with that, too. I can't
figure out what's wrong with this file, but I suspect the problem may be
related to the missing version problem.

% Begin Snippet %%%

%% A Major Scale
\version "2.10.10"
\include "english.ly"
\header {}
\key = { \key a \major
}
\time 4/4
scale = {
A1
}

%  Score 
\score {
\scale
}

%% End Snippet %

And here's the log:

% Start %

# -*-compilation-*-

Changing working directory to `C:/Documents and Settings/rpalmer/My
Documents/Ralph/Sheet Music/LilyPond/Classical/Scales'

Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/rpalmer/My Documents/Ralph/Sheet
Music/LilyPond/Classical/Scales/A Scale.ly'

Parsing...

C:/Documents and Settings/rpalmer/My Documents/Ralph/Sheet
Music/LilyPond/Classical/Scales/A Scale.ly:1:2: error: syntax error,
unexpected $undefined, expecting '='

^?þ

  %C:/Documents and Settings/rpalmer/My Documents/Ralph/Sheet
Music/LilyPond/Classical/Scales/A Scale.ly: 0: warning: no \version
statement found, please add

\version "2.10.16"

for future compatibility

error: failed files: "C:\\Documents and Settings\\rpalmer\\My
Documents\\Ralph\\Sheet Music\\LilyPond\\Classical\\Scales\\A Scale.ly"

%%% End %%



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