convert problem

2007-02-21 Thread James E. Bailey

Hello list

I haven't had any problems recently, so I haven't been here in a bit.  
I'm running OSX, I just downloaded 2.11.19-1 (Build from Sun Feb 18  
01:19:40) and I'm having a problem converting what I thought was a  
pretty recent file.


The file is this:
\version "2.10"
AltoMusic =\relative
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "clarinet"
\set Staff.instrumentName = "Alto"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "A"
\key es \major
\tempo 2=60
\time 5/2 es2 es4 es es es f2 es |
f2 d4 d c2 b b |
es2 es4 es es es f2 es  |
f d4 d c2 b b |
\time 5/4 g'4 f d es c |
\time 3/4 b2. |
\time 5/2 es2 es4 es es es es2 es |
d2 d4 d d2 c b \bar "||"

R1*10/2 |
es2 as4 g as f g( f) es2 |
d4 es d2 c b es |
\time 5/4 g4 f d es c |
\time 3/4 b2. |
\time 5/2 es2 f4 f as g f2 es |
f d4 d b2 c b \bar "||"

b' b4 b as g f( g) as2 |
as c4 b~ b as~ as b b2 |
b c4 b b as b( as8 g f2) |
f4( as) b c8( d c4) b~ b as b2 |
\time 5/4 g4 g f g as |
\time 3/4 g2. |
\time 5/2 g2 f4 f f es d2 d |
es d4 es f2 es es \bar "||"

b c4 d es f d2 b |
d es4 d d2 c c |
f es4 d es es es2 d |
f es4 d c2 h c |
\time 5/4 g'4 f d g f |
\time 3/4 es2. |
\time 5/2 es2 d4 c es es e2 e |
f8( es d c) b4 c b2 c c \bar "||"

b c4 c d d c2 d |
c c4 d c2 f es |
f es4 d d f g2 g |
f2 g4 f d g~ g f es2 |
\time 5/4 d4 es f f c |
\time 3/4 b2. |
\time 5/2 b2 b4 b c b f'2 g |
r1 b2 as4 g~ g f~ |
f es f g~ g d as'2 f |
es\breve~ es2 \bar "|."
}

and the convert errors I get are this:
convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.11.19
Processing `/Volumes/Dateien/James Music/Vocal Ensemble/rose/ 
02_alto.ly'...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 298, in ?

main ()
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 292, in main

do_one_file (f)
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 225, in do_one_file
(last, result) = do_conversion (infile.read (), from_version,  
to_version)
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 160, in do_conversion

conv_list = get_conversions (from_version, to_version)
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 145, in get_conversions

return filter (is_applicable, convertrules.conversions)
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 144, in is_applicable

return version_cmp (v[0], f) > 0 and version_cmp (v[0], t) <= 0
  File "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/convert- 
ly", line 138, in version_cmp

if t1[x] - t2[x]:
IndexError: tuple index out of range


Is this something that should go to the bugs list? Also, I tried  
compiling the file through my normal test compiling file:

\version "2.11.15"
\include "00_global.ly"
\include "deutsch.ly"
\include "02_alto.ly"
\include "02_altolyrics.ly"
\paper { #(set-paper-size "octavo") }
#(set-default-paper-size "octavo")
\key es \major
\score
{
<<
\new Staff \AltoMusic
\new Lyrics \altolyrics
>>
\layout
{
  \context
  {
   \Score
   \override MetronomeMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 3)
  }
}
\midi {}
}

and the errors I get there are:
>>/Volumes/Dateien/James Music/Vocal Ensemble/rose/ 
02_alto_score.ly<< wird verarbeitet

Analysieren...
/Volumes/Dateien/James Music/Vocal Ensemble/rose/02_alto_score.ly: 
6:10: Fehler: GUILE signalisierte einen Fehler f"ur den hier  
beginnenden Ausdruck

\paper { #
  (set-paper-size "octavo") }
/Volumes/Dateien/James Music/Vocal Ensemble/rose/02_alto_score.ly: 
7:1: Fehler: GUILE signalisierte einen Fehler f"ur den hier  
beginnenden Ausdruck

#
(set-default-paper-size "octavo")
/Volumes/Dateien/James Music/Vocal Ensemble/rose/02_alto_score.ly: 
8:0: Fehler: syntax error, unexpected \key


\key es \major
Interpretation der Musik...[8][16][24][32][40][42]
Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente...No fonts found; this  
probably means that the fontconfig

library is not correctly configured. You may need to
edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information
about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual
page and on http://fontconfig.org
FORMAT: Missing argument for ~a
FORMAT: Missing argument for ~a


I'm sure a lot of these questions will be answered after reading the  
new version of the manual, but I was more concerned with the file not  
updating more than anything else. 



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Re: French baroque: Trills, Grace and Slurs

2007-02-21 Thread Stan Sanderson


On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem with Trills which are connected by a slur with  
following

grace notes.
In the first bar ist the trill-sign above the slur, which is  
correct. I want
the same behavior with the "+"-sign in the second bar. It should be  
also

above the slur.

Can anybody help me?


\version "2.10.19"
\paper {
  line-width = 6\cm
}

\score {
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
a'4 \afterGrace b\trill(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) }
\bar "|"
a4 \afterGrace b-+(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) }
}



}



Is this what you were looking for?

\version "2.10.19"
\paper {
  line-width = 6\cm
}

\score {
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
a'4 \afterGrace b\trill(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) }
\bar "|"
a4 \afterGrace \trill(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) }
}
  >>
}


Stan




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Re: fontconfig

2007-02-21 Thread Graham Percival

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:

Pedro Rebelo escreveu:

Preprocessing graphical objects...No fonts found; this probably means
that the fontconfig
library is not correctly configured. You may need to
edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information
about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual
page and on http://fontconfig.org

any hints on how to go about fixing this?


Pedro, if you're on OSX or linux, try deleting your
~/.fontconfig
and
~/.fonts-cache-1
directories/files, then running lilypond again.  I saw this same 
problem, and this fixed it for me.


can you pinpoint the exact version that stopped working?  
(.16 is  unlikely. We did change Fontconfig in 2.10.17)


I saw this when I first ran 2.11.19.  I can't remember if I actually ran 
2.11.18 or not; sorry.  Since I've done a lot of playing around with 
fink, fonts, inkscape, all without knowing what I was doing, I thought 
it was a one-off problem with my system.


Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: fontconfig

2007-02-21 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Pedro Rebelo escreveu:
> Dear all
> I've had version 2.10.15 working fine on os x and since I've installed
> later versions I get the following error
> 
> Preprocessing graphical objects...No fonts found; this probably means
> that the fontconfig
> library is not correctly configured. You may need to
> edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information
> about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual
> page and on http://fontconfig.org
> 
> any hints on how to go about fixing this?

can you pinpoint the exact version that stopped working?  
(.16 is  unlikely. We did change Fontconfig in 2.10.17)

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French baroque: Trills, Grace and Slurs

2007-02-21 Thread Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen
Hi,

I have a problem with Trills which are connected by a slur with following 
grace notes.
In the first bar ist the trill-sign above the slur, which is correct. I want 
the same behavior with the "+"-sign in the second bar. It should be also 
above the slur.

Can anybody help me?


\version "2.10.19"
\paper {
  line-width = 6\cm
}

\score {
\relative c' << 
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
a'4 \afterGrace b\trill(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) } 
\bar "|"
a4 \afterGrace b-+(  { \stemDown a16[ b16]) }
}
>>
}

Best regards
 
Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen
http://www.kuhnen-koblenz.de


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fontconfig

2007-02-21 Thread Pedro Rebelo

Dear all
I've had version 2.10.15 working fine on os x and since I've  
installed later versions I get the following error


Preprocessing graphical objects...No fonts found; this probably means  
that the fontconfig

library is not correctly configured. You may need to
edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information
about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual
page and on http://fontconfig.org

any hints on how to go about fixing this?

thanks
pedro



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Re: Problems with Lilypond-book, accidentals, and time signatures

2007-02-21 Thread Aaron Dalton
Aaron Dalton wrote:
> Aaron Dalton wrote:
>> I am trying to incorporate some musical fragments into a brief paper I'm
>> writing.  Here is the snippet:
>>
>> \begin[fragment,staffsize=15]{lilypond}
>>  \relative c {
>>  \key c \major
>>  \clef bass
>>  \time 4/4
>>  r8 e e e e e e e e e e e e e fis fis
>>  }
>> \end{lilypond}
>>
>> Here's the script that compiles it:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>>
>> rm -rf lilyscratch
>> lilypond-book --psfonts $1.tex --output lilyscratch
>> cd lilyscratch
>> latex $1
>> latex $1
>> dvips -h $1.psfonts -o -Ppdf $1.dvi
>> ps2pdf $1.ps
>> cp $1.pdf somewhere
>> cd ..
>>
>> Problem 1) I don't get a time signature (C, in this case) unless I do:
>>  \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
>> which gives me 4/4.
>>
>> Problem 2) Note the initial 8th note rest is not rendered.
>>
>> Problem 3) Note the # sign is not printed for the F sharps.
>>
>> I'm running under FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE.  I am using the following versions:
>>
>> - Lilypond 2.10.13 (the FreeBSD package)
>> - pdfeTeX (latex) 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) kpathsea version 3.5.4
>> - dvips(k) 5.95a
>> - ps2pdf, version unknown
>> - ghostscript-gnu v2.07-15 (for the latex system, not lilypond)
>>
>> I would really appreciate any advice you could give me.  I'm not sure
>> where to start.
>>
> 
> As a follow-up, it appears natural signs render fine, but not sharps.
> 

As a further follow-up, flats also render fine.  The problem seems to be
solely with the rests and the sharp signs.  Updating to 2.10.19 did not
correct the problem.

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Positioning markup at arbitrary X and Y positions on the page?

2007-02-21 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

Is there a way to place a single piece of markup at an arbitrary (x,
y) position on the page?


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An extra accidental-style might be needed

2007-02-21 Thread Valentin Villenave

Hello everyone,

most of the composers I know use a typographical convention I can't
get LilyPond to automatically apply:

--the first accidental in a bar is printed (like in 'default style)
--if a note with an accidental is immediately repeated in the same bar
(same pitch, same octave), the accidental is not printed (like in
'default style)
--if the same note occurs later in the bar, the accidental is printed
again (like in 'forget style)
--if the same note gets natural, even at a different octave, a natural
sign is printed (like in 'modern style)
--sometimes, cautionnary naturals signs can even be printed in the
immediately following bar, without parentheses or whatever (which can
be obtained in Lily by setting the "laziness" property) --just in case
the musician would forget there isn't any accidental anymore...

(I know, it looks a bit weird, but I can tell you many scores are
printed this way nowadays: you can, for instance, find some examples
of this practice in most of recent French Salabert scores.)

As it seems to have become a very popular way (and it makes indeed
atonal music quite easier to read, for both composers and musicians),
maybe this could be added to LilyPond.
There again, I'd definitely be glad to sponsor it --but what looks
complicated to me will maybe get solved in one second by one of you
guys...

Regards,
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An extra accidental-style might be needed

2007-02-21 Thread Valentin Villenave

Hello everyone,

most of the composers I know use a typographical convention I can't
get LilyPond to automatically apply:

--the first accidental in a bar is printed (like in 'default style)
--if a note with an accidental is immediately repeated in the same bar
(same pitch, same octave), the accidental is not printed (like in
'default style)
--if the same note occurs later in the bar, the accidental is printed
again (like in 'forget style)
--if the same note gets natural, even at a different octave, a natural
sign is printed (like in 'modern style)
--sometimes, cautionnary naturals signs can even be printed in the
immediately following bar, without parentheses or whatever (which can
be obtained in Lily by setting the "laziness" property) --just in case
the musician would forget there isn't any accidental anymore...

(I know, it looks a bit weird, but I can tell you many scores are
printed this way nowadays: you can, for instance, find some examples
of this practice in most of recent French Salabert scores.)

As it seems to have become a very popular way (and it makes indeed
atonal music quite easier to read, for both composers and musicians),
maybe this could be added to LilyPond.
There again, I'd definitely be glad to sponsor it --but what looks
complicated to me will maybe get solved in one second by one of you
guys...

Regards,
Valentin


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Problems with Lilypond-book, accidentals, and time signatures

2007-02-21 Thread Aaron Dalton
I am trying to incorporate some musical fragments into a brief paper I'm
writing.  Here is the snippet:

\begin[fragment,staffsize=15]{lilypond}
\relative c {
\key c \major
\clef bass
\time 4/4
r8 e e e e e e e e e e e e e fis fis
}
\end{lilypond}

Here's the script that compiles it:

#!/bin/sh

rm -rf lilyscratch
lilypond-book --psfonts $1.tex --output lilyscratch
cd lilyscratch
latex $1
latex $1
dvips -h $1.psfonts -o -Ppdf $1.dvi
ps2pdf $1.ps
cp $1.pdf somewhere
cd ..

Problem 1) I don't get a time signature (C, in this case) unless I do:
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
which gives me 4/4.

Problem 2) Note the initial 8th note rest is not rendered.

Problem 3) Note the # sign is not printed for the F sharps.

I'm running under FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE.  I am using the following versions:

- Lilypond 2.10.13 (the FreeBSD package)
- pdfeTeX (latex) 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) kpathsea version 3.5.4
- dvips(k) 5.95a
- ps2pdf, version unknown
- ghostscript-gnu v2.07-15 (for the latex system, not lilypond)

I would really appreciate any advice you could give me.  I'm not sure
where to start.

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A-Play and Firefox

2007-02-21 Thread nordisc
Dear all,

We have tried to fix the \ versus / problem with IE and Firefox. Please remind 
us, if we are wrong :-).

Best regards
NORDISC

Henrik W. Gade



www.a-play.dk (free notewriting software)
www.nordisc-music.com (main site)

Some of NORDISC's other websites
===
If you are interested in musicals and opera:
www.alphacentauri-productions.com (musicals and classical music)

Children with ADHD, Tourette's syndrome and Asperger:
www.nordisc-mental-aid.com (health)


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Re: Two Creative Commons Piano Scores

2007-02-21 Thread Mark Knoop
At 19:09 on 20 Feb 2007, Michael David Crawford
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ladies and Germs,
> 
> I have scored my compositions "Emergence" and "Recursion" in
> Lilypond. They have the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.5
> license. Please enjoy, copy, perform and make derivative works -
> provided you Share Alike!

Very interesting, thanks. You might want to turn off point-and-click
for compiling scores to publish - not only does it make the files
slightly smaller, the links are a (small) potential security risk in
that they advertise your filesystem layout to the world.

Add -dno-point-and-click to your build command.

Regards,

Mark

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Re: point and click and with-url behavior

2007-02-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You are right that this is a bug/limitation. I forward your email to 
bug-lilypond

to turn it into a bug report.

The simple reason for the current behaviour is that the same postscript 
function is used
to handle point'n click and URLs and the only thing that happens when 
you use
-dno-point-and-click is that this postscript function is redefined to 
not do anything.


  /Mats

lala lala wrote:



Hi !
I wonder if I may post a bug report for my problem. Just for remind if 
I use with-url in a file in conjonction with -dno-point-and-click I 
don"t have any link in the resulting pdf.
I test it with the last releases 2.10.19 and 2.11.19 on windows and 
with 2.10.13 on linux64.

Do I have to post a bug report ? if yes how ?
 
Thks a lot !
 
Lasconic




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: point and click and with-url behavior
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:49:16 +0100


Thanks for your answer !
Well, I test it with 2.10.17 and 2.10.19-1. Both on windows. The
"bug" is still here. I prefer use stable version.
However I try it with 2.11.19 on windows too. Same unexpected
behavior. I don't have link with \with-url when I use
-dno-point-and-click.
Any reference to the correction of the bug ? or do we know where 
the problem is ?
 
Thanks again !
 
Lasconic
 
 



 



> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:30:15 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re:
>
> lala lala wrote:
> > Hi ! I try to use markup text and \with-url. That works fine if I
> > authorized point-and-click. But if I run lilypond with the
> > -dno-point-and-click option I don't have link in my PDF. Is it a
> > known issue ?
>
> Yes, I believe it was fixed in 2.11.17. It should also work in
2.10.17;
> have you tried using the latest version of lilypond?
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham



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RE: point and click and with-url behavior

2007-02-21 Thread lala lala
Hi ! 
I wonder if I may post a bug report for my problem. Just for remind if I use 
with-url in a file in conjonction with -dno-point-and-click I don"t have any 
link in the resulting pdf.
I test it with the last releases 2.10.19 and 2.11.19 on windows and with 
2.10.13 on linux64. 
Do I have to post a bug report ? if yes how ? 
 
Thks a lot !
 
Lasconic


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: point and click and with-url 
behaviorDate: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:49:16 +0100


Thanks for your answer !Well, I test it with 2.10.17 and 2.10.19-1. Both on 
windows. The "bug" is still here. I prefer use stable version. However I try it 
with 2.11.19 on windows too. Same unexpected behavior. I don't have link with 
\with-url when I use -dno-point-and-click.Any reference to the correction of 
the bug ? or do we know where  the problem is ? Thanks again ! Lasconic   

> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:30:15 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: Re: > > lala lala wrote:> > 
> Hi ! I try to use markup text and \with-url. That works fine if I> > 
> authorized point-and-click. But if I run lilypond with the> > 
> -dno-point-and-click option I don't have link in my PDF. Is it a> > known 
> issue ?> > Yes, I believe it was fixed in 2.11.17. It should also work in 
> 2.10.17; > have you tried using the latest version of lilypond?> > Cheers,> - 
> Graham

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Re: Fixed Vertical Spacing

2007-02-21 Thread Robert Memering
Am Dienstag, 20. Februar 2007 14:05 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
> You can indeed set the vertical height of a Lyrics context to zero:
>
> \new Lyrics \with {
>   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
>   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = ##f }
>   \lyricmode{ Here is some text }
>
>/Mats
>

Thank you very much!
I wouldn't have imagined that a spacing value
could be set to "false" :-)

Regards,
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Re: Fixed Vertical Spacing

2007-02-21 Thread Robert Memering
Am Dienstag, 20. Februar 2007 17:10 schrieb Trevor Bača:
> On 2/20/07, Robert Memering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Montag, 19. Februar 2007 22:33 schrieb Trevor Bača:
> > > On 2/19/07, Robert Memering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > is there a way to set the vertical distance
> > > > between staves of a system to a fixed value,
> > > > regardless of what happens (esp. Lyrics present/absent)?
> > > >
> > > > I think this could be done by setting the
> > > > vertical extent of the Lyrics to zero,
> > > > but as far as I understand this is not possible.
> > >
> > > Hi Robert,
> > >
> > > The trick is the line-break-system-details property of the
> > > NonMusicalPaperColumn grob. I've just put together a section of the
> > > docs for this, but it's going to take another week or two for Graham
> > > and I to correct all the typos and rebuild the docs.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, here's an advance copy of the new section in the
> > > docs, which I think will be 11.3.3 "Explicit vertical staff and system
> > > positions" once the new docs build.
> > >
> > > When you get to the alignment-offsets parameter, make sure to consider
> > > your lyrics as a "staff", as far as that setting goes.
> >
> > --snip!--
> >
> > Trevor,
> >
> > thank you very much for the explanations. I already tried
> > fiddling around with the line-break-system-details,
> > and I am very happy that this level of control is finally
> > possible, but I think it is not the right thing for this
> > project in particular, because:
> >
> > - My Score has 40 voices (Tallis, Spem in alium),
> >   so I have to specify the position of each of the 40
> >   Staves plus the Lyrics "Staves".
> >
> > - My score has approx. 25 linebreaks (pagebreaks, actually,
> >   there are no real linebreaks), so this means I have to
> >   specify the positions of the Staves for every page:
> >   about 1000 times for the whole score.
> >
> > What I need is some setting that says:
> > "This Staff (or Lyrics Line) is XYZ high. Always. Period."
> >
> > Any suggestions for a solution or workaround?
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> If you could define the alignment-offsets pair in
> line-break-system-details one time (instead of 25 times) would that
> work?
>
> That would mean typing forty (or eighty?) numerical values by hand ...
> but only once.
>
> If that's a valid possibility, then you can override the
> NonMusicalPaperColumn grob globally for the entire Score. Score-global
> overrides live in one of two possible place -- either in the \with
> block to the Score or else in a \context block for the Score (which,
> in turn, lives in a \layout block). So, for example:
>
> %%% BEGIN SCORE-GLOBAL %%%
>
> \version "2.11.18"
>
> \new Score \with {
>\override NonMusicalPaperColumn
>#'line-break-system-details = #'((alignment-offsets . (0 40 80)))
> } <<
>\new Staff {
>   \repeat unfold 4 { c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \pageBreak }
>}
>\new Staff {
>   \repeat unfold 4 { c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \pageBreak }
>}
>\new Staff {
>   \repeat unfold 4 { c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \pageBreak }
>}
>
>
> %%% END %%%
>
>
> Notice that each staff is at exactly the same vertical position on the
> page, on each and every page. The will be true for lyrics. And you
> only have to assign a value to alignment-offsets the one time.
>
> If it's still a pain to type in 80 numeric values, perhaps just a call
> to python's built-in range() function with the third, optional
> argument for increment size?
>
> >>> range(0, 320, 4)
>
> [0, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 68,
> 72, 76, 80, 84, 88, 92, 96, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128,
> 132, 136, 140, 144, 148, 152, 156, 160, 164, 168, 172, 176, 180, 184,
> 188, 192, 196, 200, 204, 208, 212, 216, 220, 224, 228, 232, 236, 240,
> 244, 248, 252, 256, 260, 264, 268, 272, 276, 280, 284, 288, 292, 296,
> 300, 304, 308, 312, 316]
>
> OTOH, if the vertical positions of the staves and lyrics changes from
> page to page, this isn't the right strategy and looking at
> VerticalAxisGroup is a good way to go.
>
> Hope maybe this will help some.

Thanks for this suggestion, I will give it a try
when there's no deadline pressure...

For now, a zero-space lyrics workaround based
on the reply from Mats Bengtsson is sufficient
for my needs.

Best regards,
Robert


-- 
Robert Memering
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Raum 01.85, Tel. +49-251-83-31958
http://santana.uni-muenster.de


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