LilyPondTool question

[Don Ravey]

 I'm a new LilyPond and LilyPondTool/JEdit user.  LPT is surely a handy 
interface, but I can't seem to figure out what governs whether the LPT 
toolbar appears or not.  At times it is there and it's very handy.  
Then, maybe after running LP, suddenly it disappears and I can't figure 
out how to recover it.  Perhaps it's something simple, but I haven't 
figured it out.  If somebody knows what I'm missing, I'd be grateful for 
your tips.  Thanks.


Don Ravey


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Re: List digest??

[Ralph Palmer]

Don -

I gave up a month or so ago. I lost the digests, switched, then there was a
short discussion on the user-list. It sounded like people thought it was
working, so I went back to digests, but never got one. I think it's broken.

Ralph

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> it.
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Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Joe Neeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 20:37 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
>> I think the easiest approach is to simply move to 'long long' for the
>> rational class. We could start using GUILE's rationals, but it will
>> complicate memory management, so I think it's not worth the trouble.
>
> What about using libgmp? I think it's already a dependency for guile.

Let's do the long long first.  It's a no brainer.


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Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time

[Adam James Wilson]

Hi Joe,

Yes, it looks like GUILE has required GNU MP arbitrary precision arithmetic
library since 2006:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/opensuse/oss-factory/x86_64/guile-devel-1.8.5-17.x86_64.html

Best regards,
Adam

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Joe Neeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 20:37 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > I think the easiest approach is to simply move to 'long long' for the
> > rational class. We could start using GUILE's rationals, but it will
> > complicate memory management, so I think it's not worth the trouble.
>
> What about using libgmp? I think it's already a dependency for guile.
>
>
>
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Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time

[Adam James Wilson]

Hi Han-Wen,

Thanks for the reply.  The example I sent was actually a quite simplified
version of what I'm attempting to do; there is a real possibility that in my
actual scores I will cause the 64-bit 'long long' numbers to overflow as
well.  As you mentioned yourself before, I think the airtight solution is to
use rationals or arbitrary precision.

How badly would such an overhaul complicate memory management?  Isn't much
of this taken care of automatically in GUILE?

I'm willing to sponsor someone to put in the fix, whatever it takes to get
my music to render.  I've invested a couple of years now into lily; it is
really the only game in town that comes close to allowing me to do what I
want.

Best regards,
Adam

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the easiest approach is to simply move to 'long long' for the
> rational class. We could start using GUILE's rationals, but it will
> complicate memory management, so I think it's not worth the trouble.
>
> Anyone for a patch?
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Adam James Wilson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It looks like I'm going down a road of rhythmic complexity that breaks
> > Lilypond rendering in the absence of arbitrary precision arithmetic.
> > Han-Wen: would it be possible for me to sponsor a move to arbitrary
> > precision arithmetic?  As you say, GUILE does support this option, and it
> > would be possible to select it with some sort of flag so that other users
> > wouldn't take the performance hit.  Such a fix would be necessary for me
> to
> > use Lilypond to fully render my scores (I can render only a few pages at
> the
> > moment).
> > My scores typically require things like the example below, which breaks
> with
> > an "unterminated beam" error, and I *think* it is exceeding 32-bit
> precision
> > (I'm assuming that Lily is using lowest common multiple of denominators
> to
> > deal with resolution):
> > \version "2.11.56"
> > \layout {
> > \context { \Score
> > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f
> > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f
> > \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching = ##t
> > \override SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t
> > proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 20)
> > ragged-right = ##t
> > }
> > \context { \Voice
> > \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
> > \override Beam #'breakable = ##t
> > }
> > }
> > \new Staff {
> > <<
> > \new Voice {
> > \time 4/1
> > c'2.*2351/3696
> > \scaleDurations #'(495 . 4336) {
> > d'8*11[ \bar "|" \break d'8*100 d'8*100]
> > }
> > e'1*827949/8012928
> > \bar "|"
> > \time 3/8
> > c'4.
> > }
> >>>
> > }
> > %{
> > warning: unterminated beam d'8*11[ \bar "|" \break d'8*100 d'8*100]
> > [a=3696, b=34688 (denom. of 495/4366*211/8), c=8012928, d=8]
> > gcf(a,b,c,d) = 8
> > lcm(a,b,c,d) = 1027312242130944
> > 32-bit precision maxes out at 4.3 billion (less than the lcm above)
> > 64-bit is more like 18.4 quintillion
> > %}
>
>
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Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time

[Joe Neeman]

On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 20:37 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> I think the easiest approach is to simply move to 'long long' for the
> rational class. We could start using GUILE's rationals, but it will
> complicate memory management, so I think it's not worth the trouble.

What about using libgmp? I think it's already a dependency for guile.




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Re: a script / tool for transposing a lilypond staff / source file by a given interval and output result as a new file

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

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Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Daryna Baikadamova:
> Hi
>
> I have received a symphony score, which parts are not typed in concert
> pitch.  This creates a problem when I want to create midi files for the
> score.  It also gives me some minor programming hassles when I want to
> create parts with a different transposition for my ensemble (e.g. the
> original score has clarinet in A, but my group only has clarinet in Bb.
>
> I would like to clean up the source file by converting source files of
> transposing instruments back to their concert pitch and then use the
> '\transpose' command in their driver files to create transposed score.
>
> Are there any existing tools which converts source files in this way?

you can always use 
\displayLilyMusic\translate from to {music}
in a lilypond file.

This will print out the transposed music in lilypond format on the command 
line, where you can copy it to your file. (Or course, you can also redirect 
the output directly to a file by appending "> new_file.ly " to your call to 
lilypond.

See 
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-LilyPond-notation.html

Cheers,
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List digest??

[Don Ravey]

 A week ago I decided I'd prefer to receive a daily digest instead of 
all the individual emails, so I set my profile for that.  I didn't 
receive ANY emails then for nearly a week until I turned the digests off 
again.  Is that not working?  It's not a big thing, but the instructions 
say that you can do it.


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a script / tool for transposing a lilypond staff / source file by a given interval and output result as a new file

[Daryna Baikadamova]

Hi

I have received a symphony score, which parts are not typed in concert
pitch.  This creates a problem when I want to create midi files for the
score.  It also gives me some minor programming hassles when I want to
create parts with a different transposition for my ensemble (e.g. the
original score has clarinet in A, but my group only has clarinet in Bb.

I would like to clean up the source file by converting source files of
transposing instruments back to their concert pitch and then use the
'\transpose' command in their driver files to create transposed score.

Are there any existing tools which converts source files in this way?

Thanks

Daryna
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Re: texi2html docs

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

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Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb James E. Bailey:
> Wow, the new documentation really shows off all of the hard work very
> well. 

Thanks a lot. 

> I have just one request. It was nice that I could go up from the 
> beginning of the documentation, 

Yes, this is a known (and definitely useful) request 
(http://wiki.kainhofer.com/lilypond/texi2html_issues) 
I don't know when I will get to tackle it, though. I don't even think it would 
be very hard to implement in the .init script, since I already heavily modify 
the navigation bars...

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

I think the easiest approach is to simply move to 'long long' for the
rational class. We could start using GUILE's rationals, but it will
complicate memory management, so I think it's not worth the trouble.

Anyone for a patch?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Adam James Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks like I'm going down a road of rhythmic complexity that breaks
> Lilypond rendering in the absence of arbitrary precision arithmetic.
> Han-Wen: would it be possible for me to sponsor a move to arbitrary
> precision arithmetic?  As you say, GUILE does support this option, and it
> would be possible to select it with some sort of flag so that other users
> wouldn't take the performance hit.  Such a fix would be necessary for me to
> use Lilypond to fully render my scores (I can render only a few pages at the
> moment).
> My scores typically require things like the example below, which breaks with
> an "unterminated beam" error, and I *think* it is exceeding 32-bit precision
> (I'm assuming that Lily is using lowest common multiple of denominators to
> deal with resolution):
> \version "2.11.56"
> \layout {
> \context { \Score
> \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f
> \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f
> \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching = ##t
> \override SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t
> proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 20)
> ragged-right = ##t
> }
> \context { \Voice
> \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
> \override Beam #'breakable = ##t
> }
> }
> \new Staff {
> <<
> \new Voice {
> \time 4/1
> c'2.*2351/3696
> \scaleDurations #'(495 . 4336) {
> d'8*11[ \bar "|" \break d'8*100 d'8*100]
> }
> e'1*827949/8012928
> \bar "|"
> \time 3/8
> c'4.
> }
>>>
> }
> %{
> warning: unterminated beam d'8*11[ \bar "|" \break d'8*100 d'8*100]
> [a=3696, b=34688 (denom. of 495/4366*211/8), c=8012928, d=8]
> gcf(a,b,c,d) = 8
> lcm(a,b,c,d) = 1027312242130944
> 32-bit precision maxes out at 4.3 billion (less than the lcm above)
> 64-bit is more like 18.4 quintillion
> %}



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Re: Hidden rests without visible space

[Aaron Dalton]

Trevor Daniels wrote:

This will reduce the visible space, but any MIDI output will be incorrect:

\version "2.10.19"
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

allMusic = \relative c'' {
c4 d4*3 | e4 f g a
}

\score {
\new Staff \allMusic
}



Thank you, Trevor and Kieren.  It turns out that Trevor's solution 
worked best for my situation since I don't need any midi output.  I 
really appreciate the help.


Aaron



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Re: texi2html docs

[James E. Bailey]

well, that's not official yet, but when it is, then yes, on the  
downloads page.


Am 06.09.2008 um 00:47 schrieb Josh Parmenter:

I agree! Very nice! As I am just learning how to use LilyPond - it  
is already making things faster.


Is it possible to download the document to have a local (offline)  
copy? Or should I wget it?


Thanks,

Josh

On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:37 PM, James E. Bailey wrote:

Wow, the new documentation really shows off all of the hard work  
very well. I have just one request. It was nice that I could go up  
from the beginning of the documentation, i.e.; http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html#Top 
 to the documentation index: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/index.html 
 with the "Up: (dir)" option. It may not be consistent, and I can  
certainly just click my bookmark again, but it sure was handy.

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Re: texi2html docs

[Josh Parmenter]

I agree! Very nice! As I am just learning how to use LilyPond - it is  
already making things faster.


Is it possible to download the document to have a local (offline)  
copy? Or should I wget it?


Thanks,

Josh

On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:37 PM, James E. Bailey wrote:

Wow, the new documentation really shows off all of the hard work  
very well. I have just one request. It was nice that I could go up  
from the beginning of the documentation, i.e.; http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html#Top 
 to the documentation index: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/index.html 
 with the "Up: (dir)" option. It may not be consistent, and I can  
certainly just click my bookmark again, but it sure was handy.

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Re: ()

[Grammostola Rosea]

James E. Bailey wrote:


Am 06.09.2008 um 00:25 schrieb Grammostola Rosea:


Hi,

for notation and tablature, I want to have this: () around one note 
in a chord.


This is close to the solution:



But the is only (almost) a () around the b in the tablature, the head 
of that note looks a bit strange to me... it should just have () 
around it...


http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff.html#Parentheses 



And wow, the texi2html docs are absolutely beautiful...
Thanks, that is what I'm looking for! And yes the new docs makes 
searching through the docs way more structured (at least for my eyes and 
brains)...



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texi2html docs

[James E. Bailey]

Wow, the new documentation really shows off all of the hard work very  
well. I have just one request. It was nice that I could go up from the  
beginning of the documentation, i.e.; http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html#Top 
 to the documentation index: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/index.html 
 with the "Up: (dir)" option. It may not be consistent, and I can  
certainly just click my bookmark again, but it sure was handy.
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Re: ()

[James E. Bailey]

Am 06.09.2008 um 00:25 schrieb Grammostola Rosea:


Hi,

for notation and tablature, I want to have this: () around one note  
in a chord.


This is close to the solution:



But the is only (almost) a () around the b in the tablature, the  
head of that note looks a bit strange to me... it should just have  
() around it...


http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff.html#Parentheses

And wow, the texi2html docs are absolutely beautiful...
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()

[Grammostola Rosea]

Hi,

for notation and tablature, I want to have this: () around one note in a 
chord.


This is close to the solution:



But the is only (almost) a () around the b in the tablature, the head of 
that note looks a bit strange to me... it should just have () around it...



Thanks in advance,

Dirk


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Re: Wikilily: copyright

[Grammostola Rosea]

Mike Blackstock wrote:



Ok, enough.. I just wanted to touch on this in a public forum... I 
think using snippets of works, and posting them, to learn a computer 
program

is "fair dealing." I won't be losing any sleep over it.
Good to think about this issue. I think your conclusion is right, it's 
at least the same as I concluded for myself...


It should not become a place where people can download whole pieces of 
copyrighted music of course... but pieces to learn lilypond should be 
fine...




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Re: glissandos and chords

[Josh Parmenter]

thanks everyone.

If nothing else, I have a better idea about how to use the search  
now... will do that first from here on.


Thanks,

josh

On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:


Hi Werner (et al):


Hmm.  Searching for `kieren' and `glissando' yields nothing.


Ha! You're right… I was confusing that with another thread I posted  
to (search for 'kieren' and 'glissandi' to find it).


Anyway, as I suspected, a search for 'double glissando' turns up  
some useful info, including:
   


Cheers,
Kieren.


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Re: glissandos and chords

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Werner (et al):


Hmm.  Searching for `kieren' and `glissando' yields nothing.


Ha! You're right… I was confusing that with another thread I posted  
to (search for 'kieren' and 'glissandi' to find it).


Anyway, as I suspected, a search for 'double glissando' turns up some  
useful info, including:



Cheers,
Kieren.

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Fwd: glissandos and chords

[Neil Thornock]

Oops, now to the list (sorry Werner).



> Hmm.  Searching for `kieren' and `glissando' yields nothing.
>
>
>Werner
>

It turns up something, but not what Josh wants, unfortunately.

\relative {<<{c \glissando d}\\{\stemUp a \glissando b}>>}

Any better solutions?




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Re: glissandos and chords

[Werner LEMBERG]

> > Does anyone have a suggestion for having the glissando drawn
> > between both members of the chord in the example below?
> 
> Search the list archives — I posted a solution a few months ago.

Hmm.  Searching for `kieren' and `glissando' yields nothing.


Werner


==

ignore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t

\relative {
  2  |
  << { \ignore \stemNeutral e2 \glissando g } \\
 { \ignore \stemNeutral c, \glissando e } >>
}
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Re: Hidden rests without visible space

[Trevor Daniels]

This will reduce the visible space, but any MIDI output will be incorrect:

\version "2.10.19"
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

allMusic = \relative c'' {
c4 d4*3 | e4 f g a
}

\score {
\new Staff \allMusic
}

Trevor

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From: "Aaron Dalton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Kieren MacMillan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Hidden rests without visible space



Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Aaron,


Is it possible to create hidden rests that do not create visible space?


\override Rest #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)



Thank you, Kieren.  I'm afraid that's not doing it for me.  Here's a 
very minimal example:


\version "2.10.19"
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

allMusic = \relative c'' {
c4 d \override Rest #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) s2 | e4 f g a
}

\score {
\new Staff \allMusic
}

The \override doesn't seem to make any difference to the output.  I'm 
trying compress as much as possible the space created by that 's2' 
before the bar line.


Thank you again for your help!
Aaron



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Re: glissandos and chords

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Josh,


Does anyone have a suggestion for having the glissando drawn
between both members of the chord in the example below?


Search the list archives — I posted a solution a few months ago.

HTH!
Kieren.

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Re: Hidden rests without visible space

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Aaron,


The \override doesn't seem to make any difference to the output.


Well, since you applied it to a skip (and not a rest), I'm not  
surprised!  ;-)


I've attached a sample of what I was suggesting.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.

%%
\version "2.11.57"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }

original = \relative c'' {
c4 d s2 | e4 f g a
}

fixed = \relative c'' {
\override Rest #'transparent = ##t
\override Rest #'X-extent = #'(2 . -2) c4 d r2 | e4 f g a
\override Rest #'X-extent = #'(1 . -1) c,4 d r2 | e4 f g a
\override Rest #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) c,4 d r2 | e4 f g a
}

\markup { "ORIGINAL:" }
\score { \original }

\markup { "FIXED (THREE WIDTHS):" }
\score { \fixed }
%%


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glissandos and chords

[Josh Parmenter]

Hi all -

Does anyone have a suggestion for having the glissando drawn between  
both members of the chord in the example below?


Thanks for your help.

best,

Josh

\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
\version "2.11.58"

myGliss = {
  \clef bass
  \time 4/4
  2 \glissando 2
  }

\score {
  \new Staff \myGliss
}


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Re: Hidden rests without visible space

[Aaron Dalton]

Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Aaron,


Is it possible to create hidden rests that do not create visible space?


\override Rest #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)



Thank you, Kieren.  I'm afraid that's not doing it for me.  Here's a 
very minimal example:


\version "2.10.19"
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

allMusic = \relative c'' {
c4 d \override Rest #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) s2 | e4 f g a
}

\score {
\new Staff \allMusic
}

The \override doesn't seem to make any difference to the output.  I'm 
trying compress as much as possible the space created by that 's2' 
before the bar line.


Thank you again for your help!
Aaron



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Re: JEdit JPedal Adobe

[Bertalan Fodor]

No, not possible yet.
It's a known issue with JPedal 
I recommend setting a shortcut or a toolbar button for the external viewer.

Bert

> --- Original Message ---
> From: Steven Padalino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Sent: 08/09/05/, 18:27:50
> Subject: JEdit JPedal Adobe
> 
> I haven't found this in the archives and I'm still waiting for a reply from 
> JEdit support, but maybe one of you can answer this one.
>  
> Is it possible to change the default .pdf viewer in JEdit?  The LilypondTool 
> Plug-in options allow you to specify the external .pdf viewer, which I've 
> done, setting it use Acrobat Reader, but JPedal still launches when I click 
> the "Preview output (PDF)" button.
>  
> I was beating my head against a wall trying to get text spanners to display 
> properly when I found out here that JPedal doesn't display them properly.
>  
> Steve


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JEdit JPedal Adobe

[Steven Padalino]

I haven't found this in the archives and I'm still waiting for a reply from 
JEdit support, but maybe one of you can answer this one.
 
Is it possible to change the default .pdf viewer in JEdit?  The LilypondTool 
Plug-in options allow you to specify the external .pdf viewer, which I've done, 
setting it use Acrobat Reader, but JPedal still launches when I click the 
"Preview output (PDF)" button.
 
I was beating my head against a wall trying to get text spanners to display 
properly when I found out here that JPedal doesn't display them properly.
 
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Wikilily: copyright

[Mike Blackstock]

It  appears that some people are posting snippets of music from artists 
who haven't been dead yet for 50 years, the main criteria for public 
domain stuff in Canada.


Just for the record:

The Canadian Copyright Act (http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/info/act-e.html) 
states "Fair dealing for the purpose of research or private study does 
not infringe copyright".  The wikipedia article on '"fair dealing" at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing#Fair_dealing_in_Canada gives 
some good guidelines"


"...six principal criteria for evaluating fair dealing.

  1. *The Purpose of the Dealing* Is it for research, private study,
 criticism, review or news reporting? It expresses that "these
 allowable purposes should not be given a restrictive
 interpretation or this could result in the undue restriction of
 users' rights."

Indeed, it seems the Copyright Act spends most of its time dealing with 
what *is not* an infringement. Back to wikipedia:


*" 3. The Amount of the Dealing* How much of the work was used? What 
was the importance of the infringed work? Quoting trivial amounts may 
alone sufficiently establish fair dealing. In some cases even quoting 
the entire work may be fair dealing."


Ok, enough.. I just wanted to touch on this in a public forum... I think 
using snippets of works, and posting them, to learn a computer program

is "fair dealing." I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Cheers,
Mike





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Wikilily: \includes

[Mike Blackstock]

you can now (well, experimentally) use \includes on wikilily.org. An 
example is at 
http://draft.wikilily.org/wiki/index.php/Winterreise/Gefrorne_Tranen - 
click on the 'edit' tab to see/edit the ly source.


You'll see there :
\include "vocals.ly"
\include "pianoRH.ly"
\include "pianoLH.ly"

The parser sees '\include' and then looks at the page name (in this 
case, "Gefrorne_Tranen") and uses that as a prefix to find a page called 
"Gefrorne_Tranen/vocals.ly"; the page contents are then written to the 
file "vocals.ly" in the  lilypond jail tree and lilypond just compiles 
as per normal.


So if you start a page called "BlowMe" with an include called 
"NotInYourLife.ly", just make sure you have a page called 
"BlowMe/NotInYourLife.ly"

on the wiki.

Seems to work, as a proof of concept at least. It doesn't recursively 
descend the files as of yet - if NotInYourLife.ly has itself some 
'\includes' it won't work - but that's a relatively trivial matter to 
address.


I grabbed an unfinished, abandoned Mozart symphony project from mutopia 
and will post that up  for anybody  who would like to help finish it. 
I'll post it today or Monday - my boss just poured another glass of 
Lagavulin in preparation for his garden party so i may not get much work 
done today.


Cheers,
Mike



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Re: Stem Combining

[Mats Bengtsson]

Risto Vääräniemi wrote:

I was hoping to get results as presented in the attached image
(situation was staged).

I had one song that I wanted to cram into a smaller space. Since all
the rhythms were the same on both voices I decided to put the stems in
the same direction. Opposite stems would have taken too much space. To
get this result I had to use chords.
  
You don't need chords. Just enter the two lines of music in the same 
Voice context.
Unfortunately, when there's only a single note, you will get an ugly 
result if you
repeat it in both lines of music, so you have to replace one of them by 
a spacer note.

Your example can therefore be entered as
\version "2.10.0"
upper = \relative c'{ a8 e' e d e a, a d ~ | d c d e c a a4 }
lower = \relative c'{ s8 c c b c s s b ~ | b a b c a ( e ) e4 }

\score{
 \new Voice << \upper \lower >>
}

/Mats


-Risto
  






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Re: Increasing the gap between beams

[Elliot Isaacson]

Thanks for looking into this for me. Reverting the thickness back a little is 
not a such a big deal. I appreciate you help.

Thanks,
Elliot


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Increasing the gap between beams
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, "Elliot Isaacson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> Elliot
> 
> I believe the following is true, but it doesn't really
> help you much.  If 
> anyone knows better, please correct me.
> 
> AFAICS the gap property of Beam is no longer used.  The
> positioning of beams 
> is automatically determined to give positions related to
> the staff lines in 
> a process called "quanting".  If you look at any
> LilyPond score you will see 
> that the beams' starting and ending points are
> positioned so they either 
> just touch or are centered over a staff/ledger line, or are
> centered in a 
> staff space.  This avoids tiny gaps between beams and staff
> lines which 
> would look ugly, especially on horizontal beams.  The
> process is a complex 
> weighting algorithm, so I doubt if there is an easy
> solution for your 
> thicker beams.  The algorithm seems to give poor results
> for beam 
> thicknesses greater than about 0.6.
> 
> Trevor
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Elliot Isaacson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:16 AM
> Subject: Increasing the gap between beams
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am just discovering lilypond. It is amazing.
> >
> > I am typesetting a score and I wanted to increase the
> thickness of the 
> > notation
> > to give it an "inkier" look.
> >
> > \override Beam #'thickness = #.68
> > \override Stem #'thickness = #2
> > \override Stem #'length = #7.6
> > \override Stem #'details #'beamed-lengths
> = #'(3.8 4.2 4.6)
> > \set fontSize = #1
> >
> > These tweaks look great until lilypond starts to draw
> 16th notes. The two 
> > beams
> > are thick enough so that they absorb the space between
> them and look like 
> > one
> > thick single beam.
> >
> > My best guess was to change the Beam gap property, but
> his line has no 
> > effect in
> > 2.10.29 or 2.11.57:
> >
> > \override Beam #'gap = #any_number_here
> >
> > How can I override the distance between beams?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Elliot
> >
> >
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Re: guitar slide with lilypond

[Grammostola Rosea]

Robin Bannister wrote:

Grammostola Rosea wrote
I think I can use this for bends: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits


This 2.9 page doesn't say very much, does it?
Have a look in the 2.11 docs for a bit more. (You seem to be using 
2.11 anyway.)

You're right, thanks


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Re: guitar slide with lilypond

[Robin Bannister]

Grammostola Rosea wrote
I think I can use this for bends: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits


This 2.9 page doesn't say very much, does it?
Have a look in the 2.11 docs for a bit more. 
(You seem to be using 2.11 anyway.)


Cheers,
Robin


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Re: guitar slide with lilypond

[James E. Bailey]

I think the important thing is to find the symbol that you want.
Am 05.09.2008 um 10:37 schrieb Grammostola Rosea:


Grammostola Rosea wrote:

Hi,

I think I can use this for bends: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits
And slurs for hammer on and pull off.

But what can I use for slides?
Ah, maybe Glissando : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Glissando#Glissando 
 ?



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Re: guitar slide with lilypond

[Grammostola Rosea]

Grammostola Rosea wrote:

Hi,

I think I can use this for bends: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits

And slurs for hammer on and pull off.

But what can I use for slides?
Ah, maybe Glissando : 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Glissando#Glissando 
?



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guitar slide with lilypond

[Grammostola Rosea]

Hi,

I think I can use this for bends: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits

And slurs for hammer on and pull off.

But what can I use for slides?

Thanks in advance,


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