Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Tim McNamara]

On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Chip wrote:

The most recent attempt to load the web page docs - http:// 
lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page -  
throws up this error message -


Content Encoding Error
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an  
invalid or unsupported form of compression.
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an  
invalid or unsupported form of compression.

* Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


Strange.  It loads fine for me and it has loaded fine for the other  
posters to this thread.


I am using Camino (based on Mozilla) and Safari 3.2.1 on Mac OS X  
10.4.11.  Could there be a problem with your computer or your  
connection to the Internet (e.g., a proxy server, overzealous  
firewall or other security software, etc.)?



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Re: Ossia in String Quartet

[James E. Bailey]

You need to name the Staff that ViolineEins is on. ViolineEins = \new  
Staff = ViolineEins \new Voice \relative c' {music}


El 25.02.2009, a las 23:28, grisu_76 escribió:



Dear James,

my score is set up in the following way (see below): the first is a  
file
called "piece.ly", there I write the piece; if I compile the file  
"score.ly"
(see below), the ossia stands below the cello-line, not above the  
violin1.


regards, Christian

%%file "piece.ly"
\version "2.12.2"
\include "deutsch.ly"
global = {
\time 2/2
\key c \minor
}
ViolineEins = \new Voice {\relative c'{
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Violino primo "
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin"

g8 \p[(b g b)] << {g[(b g b )]}

\new Staff \with {
  \remove "Time_signature_engraver"
  alignAboveContext =  
#"ViolineEins"

  fontSize = #-3
  \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = 
#(magstep -3)
  \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = 
#(magstep -3)
  firstClef = ##f
}
  {as8[(b as b)]}
   >>
\bar "|."
}}
%ViolineZwei, Viola, Cello in the same way
music = {
<<
  \tag #'score \tag #' vn1 \new Staff { << \global \ViolineEins >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vn2 \new Staff { << \global \ViolineZwei >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vla \new Staff { << \global \Viola >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vlc \new Staff { << \global \Cello >> }
>>
}   
 END OF FILE

This file produces the full score of the quartet:

 file "score.ly"
\include "piece.ly"
# (set-global-staff-size 14)
\score {
\new StaffGroup \keepWithTag #'score \music
\layout {}
\midi {}
}

%%% END OF FILE


James E. Bailey-3 wrote:



El 25.02.2009, a las 19:01, grisu_76 escribió:



Hello to all!

I have got a problem with the addition of an ossia in a string
quartet;

I work with the file structure explained in the snippets manual (p.
230 f).
All works out very well - all parts are printed out properly, but
if I want
to add an ossia in the viola-part in the score.ly, the examples
form the
learning-manual an from the notation-reference manual do not work;
I guess
it is because the "score.ly" uses the "piece.ly" to "collect" the
information from there (=from the example in the snippets manual:
There it
is recommended, to put in a \new Staff = ...)
The ossia is printed out, but below the cello-line; it could not be
manipulated with the alignAboveContext-command; does someone has
got an


I don't know exactly how your score is set up, but alignAboveContext
needs a named Staff context in order to work, so \new Staff = cello
\celloMusic \new Staff \with { alignAboveContext  = cello }  
\ossiaStaff.




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Re: LilyPond 2.12 and emacs on Ubuntu

[James E. Bailey]

Well, the basic (i.e., for people who understand emacs) instructions  
are in the Application Usage, under Text Editor Support.


El 26.02.2009, a las 02:44, Ralph Palmer escribió:


Hi -

I'm an intermediate lilyponder and a novice penguinista. I have  
Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) mounted on an older laptop. I  
successfully removed the LilyPond version that came with the Ubuntu  
package, and installed 2.12 (although I thought the documentation  
would come with the installation package, and it doesn't seem to be  
anywhere on the machine). Prior to this, I'd been working on an XP  
machine and using ConText to edit my .ly files; I liked it, but  
it's not available for Linux (yet). I've had some experience with  
Emacs, and I'd like to use it for LilyPond. I know there's a  
lilypond-mode for Emacs, but I can't figure out how to locate,  
configure, download, or use it. Is there a more experienced user  
out there who might be able to walk me through it, or at least  
steer me in the right direction? Or should I cop out and use gEdit?


Thanks in advance for any help,

Ralph

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Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Chip]

The most recent attempt to load the web page docs - 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page - 
throws up this error message -


Content Encoding Error
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an 
invalid or unsupported form of compression.
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an 
invalid or unsupported form of compression.

* Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

--
Chip

Patrick McCarty wrote:

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote:
  

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index

also does not load correctly.



These two pages load correctly for me.  Have you tried deleting your
browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh?

-Patrick


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Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Chip]

Chip wrote:

Patrick McCarty wrote:

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote:
  

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index

also does not load correctly.



These two pages load correctly for me.  Have you tried deleting your
browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh?

-Patrick
  
Nope, a forced refresh doesn't do it, neither does using a browser 
that I've never used for visiting the lily web site - IE. In fact, it 
won't load the pages at all, throwing up an error like this -



  Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

 
  	



  Most likely causes:

* You are not connected to the Internet.
* The website is encountering problems.
* There might be a typing error in the address.




What you can try:





Diagnose Connection Problems <#>





<#>   More information



In firefox some of the docs load okay, others don't, they load 
partially, then suddenly blow up. Clearing browser history didn't fix 
anything either.

I'm downloading the docs .tar file right now.
--
chip

I've downloaded the docs twice now and get this both times -
!   C:\Documents and Settings\Chip\Local 
Settings\Temp\lilypond-2.12.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2-1.tar: CRC failed 
in C:\Documents and Settings\Chip\Local 
Settings\Temp\lilypond-2.12.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2-1.tar. The file is 
corrupt


Don't know what to do next to view the docs.
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Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Chip]

Patrick McCarty wrote:

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote:
  

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index

also does not load correctly.



These two pages load correctly for me.  Have you tried deleting your
browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh?

-Patrick
  
Nope, a forced refresh doesn't do it, neither does using a browser that 
I've never used for visiting the lily web site - IE. In fact, it won't 
load the pages at all, throwing up an error like this -



 Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage





 Most likely causes:

   * You are not connected to the Internet.
   * The website is encountering problems.
   * There might be a typing error in the address.




   What you can try:





Diagnose Connection Problems <#>





   <#>More information 


In firefox some of the docs load okay, others don't, they load 
partially, then suddenly blow up. Clearing browser history didn't fix 
anything either.

I'm downloading the docs .tar file right now.
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Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Patrick McCarty]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page
>
> Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index
>
> also does not load correctly.

These two pages load correctly for me.  Have you tried deleting your
browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh?

-Patrick


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Re: NR one big page is messed up

[Jonathan Kulp]

Chip wrote:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index 



also does not load correctly.

--
Chip



They loaded o.k. for me just now. Are you still having problems?  You 
could load your local copy of it, perhaps.  If you're on Linux it's here:


/usr/share/doc/lilypond

Not sure where (or if) it installs on Windows or Mac.

Jon

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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Jonathan Kulp]

Chip wrote:

Jonathan Kulp wrote:

Chip wrote:
In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I 
want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A 
total of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with 
coding it the way I have it?




In 6/8 time if you have three quarters they fit perfectly in the bar 
without making them triplets. Just put the quarter notes in there 
three to a bar and you're done. If you put three quarters in the space 
of two using a triplet, then you still lack one quarter-note value to 
fill up the bar.


Jon
You're right. I am notating a handwritten transcription and that is how 
the arranger wrote out his notes. I should've thought of that, guess the 
arranger should've as well.

Thanks,
Chip



Ah.  The arranger Jedi-mind-tricked you!

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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Chip]

Jonathan Kulp wrote:

Chip wrote:
In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I 
want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A 
total of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with 
coding it the way I have it?




In 6/8 time if you have three quarters they fit perfectly in the bar 
without making them triplets. Just put the quarter notes in there 
three to a bar and you're done. If you put three quarters in the space 
of two using a triplet, then you still lack one quarter-note value to 
fill up the bar.


Jon
You're right. I am notating a handwritten transcription and that is how 
the arranger wrote out his notes. I should've thought of that, guess the 
arranger should've as well.

Thanks,
Chip


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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Jonathan Kulp]

Chip wrote:
In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I 
want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total 
of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it 
the way I have it?




In 6/8 time if you have three quarters they fit perfectly in the bar 
without making them triplets. Just put the quarter notes in there three 
to a bar and you're done. If you put three quarters in the space of two 
using a triplet, then you still lack one quarter-note value to fill up 
the bar.


Jon
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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Chip]

In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I 
want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total 
of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it 
the way I have it?

--
Chip

Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Chip,


In the following code the triplets do not work properly


1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it 
compile correctly --- in this case, you omitted the time signature 
(6/8, I'm inferring) and the \include "english.ly".



there are two measures of quarter note triplets followed by
a dotted half note - they all end up in one measure together.


That's because Lilypond is doing exactly what you've asked it to do, 
in light of the \times 2/3 command.

What are you hoping to see in those bars?

Kieren.

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NR one big page is messed up

[Chip]

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index

also does not load correctly.

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Re: "Orphaned pages"

[Neil Thornock]

> Is there some reason that you don't use
> \paper {
>  ragged-last-bottom = ##f
> }
> ?

Yes... I've found that often the final page in such a score gets
cheated in the number of systems assigned to it.  So I may have 5
systems on all my other pages and only 3 on the last page.  That's
what I remember, anyway.  The dummy score for layout seems to invoke
different - and more consistent - routines.

But I'm perfectly happy with it.  I do wish it were easier to force
number of systems per page but let LilyPond take care of things like
spacing between systems, etc.



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Composition/Theory
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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Kees van den Doel]

Thanks that works except I'm in 2/4, but I can disable the stem easily.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Robin Bannister 
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: Writing text in a measure
To: Kees van den Doel , Gilles Sadowski 

Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org

> Kees van den Doel wrote.
> > on 2.12.2 it does *not* work. The output is attached. Bug?
> 
> 
> It seems to me that LSR 258 is demonstrating only whiteout.
> It is not demonstrating how to deal with the concomitant 
> horizontal layout problems, because it cheats here: 
>  - uses ragged-right = ##f (with only one measure) to get 
> lots of space 
>  - uses extra-offset to move the text into this space.
> 
> And a newish bit of automagic confuses the issue: 
>  - 2.12 does short snippets with ragged-right by default; 
>  - 2.10 doesn't, and test2.ly specifies 2.10. 
> 
> And the s4-\markup of test2.ly doesn't put the text halfway up. 
> 
> 
> You could do something like LSR 475 to get Lilypond to do the 
> positioning. 
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=475
> 
> slashAndBurn = {
> \once \override NoteHead  #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
> \once \override NoteHead #'text = #(markup #:whiteout 
> " Play loud random notes, then burn your instrument (30 s) " ) }
> 
> mm = \relative c'' {
>   a4 b c d |
>   \slashAndBurn a1 | % "a": vertical position  "1": 
> notehead only
>   e4 d e c |
> }
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Robin
>


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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Chip]

In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I 
want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total 
of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it 
the way I have it?

--
Chip

Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Chip,


In the following code the triplets do not work properly


1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it 
compile correctly — in this case, you omitted the time signature (6/8, 
I'm inferring) and the \include "english.ly".



there are two measures of quarter note triplets followed by
a dotted half note - they all end up in one measure together.


That's because Lilypond is doing exactly what you've asked it to do, 
in light of the \times 2/3 command.

What are you hoping to see in those bars?

Kieren.

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Re: 6/8 time triplets problem

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Chip,


In the following code the triplets do not work properly


1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it  
compile correctly — in this case, you omitted the time signature  
(6/8, I'm inferring) and the \include "english.ly".



there are two measures of quarter note triplets followed by
a dotted half note - they all end up in one measure together.


That's because Lilypond is doing exactly what you've asked it to do,  
in light of the \times 2/3 command.

What are you hoping to see in those bars?

Kieren.

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6/8 time triplets problem

[Chip]

In the following code the triplets do not work properly - there are two 
measures of quarter note triplets followed  by a dotted half note - they 
all end up in one measure together.

===
{
\partial 8*1 e8-.
e4 d8 c4 d8
e4 e8-. r r e
e4 d8 c4 d8
e4 e8 r r fs
g4 fs8 g4 e8
d2 d8 e
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b}
\times 2/3 {d4 c b}
g2.\fermata \bar "||"
R1*5
e,2 e8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
r2.*3
r4 r c8 d
e4 d c8 b
g4. a
b c
d2.
r2.*4
e,2 d8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r4 r8 fs,
b2 c8 d
e2.
d4. c4 d8
e2.
R2.*3
R2.*6
R2.*3
r4 r b8 d
fs4 d8~ d[ b g] \bar "||" \key af \major
ef'4 ef8 ef4 ef8
ef8 r r4 r
R2.*6
r4 r r8 c
df4 df8 bf4 af8
bf4 bf8 r bf c
df4 c8 bf4 af8
bf4 r8 ef[ g bf]
c4 c bf8 af
af2.~
af4. r8 r g \bar "||" \key g \major
e2 fs8 g
a2.
R2.*5
e,2 e8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r c8 d
e4 d c8 b
g4. a4.
b4. c4.
d2.
R2.*4
e,2 d8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r4 r8 fs,
b2 c8 d
e2.
d4. c4 d8
e2.
R2.*3
R2.*6
R2.*3
r4 r b8 c
d4 d d8 c
b4. c4.
d4. f4.
e2.
R2.*4
r4 r b8 d
a4 f d8 bf
ef2 bf8 ef
g4. bf4.
a2.\fermata \bar "|."
}
==


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Re: display chords (Ami7(b5))

[David Stocker]

Thanks Shamus, this is great.

Incidentally, if you store a copy of "pop-chords.ly" in your lilypond's 
usr/share/lilypond/current/ly folder (or somewhere else in LilyPond's 
path) you can call it using \include just like the language-settings 
files (i.e. without having to put a copy of it in your current working 
directory).


I will get much use from this.

Shamus wrote:

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Grammostola Rosea wrote:
  

Tim McNamara wrote:


On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:

  

Tim McNamara wrote:


On Feb 22, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:

  

Hi,

How do I make chords with the 5th an half tone lower or higher
(e.g. b5 or #5)?

for example

Am7(b5)

or

D7(#5)


I just asked this same question a couple of weeks ago.  The standard
way would be:

 Am7(b5) for two beats  =  a2:m7.5-   which will render as Aø

 D7(#5) for four beats  =  d1:7.5+   which will render as D7/#5

You can do #9 or b9, etc. this way.  All the altered notes will be
preceded by a slash except the major 7th, m7b5 and diminished chords
which are denoted by a delta, diminished sign or half-diminished
sign respectively.

There are other options for rendering the chords which involve
setting up a file of chord markups.  For more information, look in
the mailing list archives for the thread "Hello! and question about
jazz chords" for more details.  The thread started 10 Feb 2009.


  

Thanks!

Yeah it would be nice if jazz chords will be improved in Lilypond,
like it was suggested in the link you gave...


Well, the jazz chord rendering follows a set of conventions, just not
the ones established at Berklee and in the Real Book.  There's really
nothing wrong with it except that it's not what most jazz musicians
will expect (and the slash is a bit confusing- "is the #5 in the
bass?").   But I've been handed lots of charts at rehearsals with the
chords rendered the way LilyPond does it.

  

No nothing wrong at all. But maybe it is nice to have both (different)
options to display the chords...



This has been a contentious issue for me as well--while in the past the
chord rendering was really awful, the situation *is* much improved today
now that it is possible to override the defaults. Also, there just
doesn't seem to be much agreement on how chords should be rendered even
in category subsets like jazz or pop for that matter.

So my solution has been to maintain a separate file with chord
definitions that I like (side note: it would be nice to be able to
simply include the file and get results that you expect, much like when
you include a language file). I'm including mine here so you can get an
idea of how it's done and how to use it (mebbe I should post this on LSR?).

Perhaps in the future the authors might make a contrib folder for a
whole bunch of different chord styles and make it as easy to use as
including the right file. I don't know how much work would be involved,
but it seems like it would go a long way towards alleviating these kinds
of posts that inevitably crop up as more and more people discover that
they can do really nice lead sheets with lilypond. :-)

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Re: LilyPond 2.12 and emacs on Ubuntu

[David Stocker]

Forgot to mention, the Emacs I installed from the repos was the GTK 
flavor of Emacs 22. Not sure whether it makes a difference.


As far as Emacs vs. gEdit or something else, Emacs is a little more 
'programmerish', with keystrokes that take some getting used to (c-x c-s 
instead of ctr-s for save, etc.), but it's nicer on the eyes than gEdit 
and the liypond-mode syntax highlighting and auto indentation is nice to 
have.


Dave

David Stocker wrote:

Hi Ralph,

The lilypond-mode worked 'out of the box' for me when after opening a 
.ly file with emacs or saving whatever file I was working on with a 
.ly extension. At least this was true on Ubuntu 8.04 and Emacs 22 from 
the Ubuntu repositories. Did you install Emacs from the repositories? 
If you do, I think it sets all the correct paths by default.


Ralph Palmer wrote:

Hi -

I'm an intermediate lilyponder and a novice penguinista. I have 
Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) mounted on an older laptop. I 
successfully removed the LilyPond version that came with the Ubuntu 
package, and installed 2.12 (although I thought the documentation 
would come with the installation package, and it doesn't seem to be 
anywhere on the machine). Prior to this, I'd been working on an XP 
machine and using ConText to edit my .ly files; I liked it, but it's 
not available for Linux (yet). I've had some experience with Emacs, 
and I'd like to use it for LilyPond. I know there's a lilypond-mode 
for Emacs, but I can't figure out how to locate, configure, download, 
or use it. Is there a more experienced user out there who might be 
able to walk me through it, or at least steer me in the right 
direction? Or should I cop out and use gEdit?


Thanks in advance for any help,

Ralph

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Re: LilyPond 2.12 and emacs on Ubuntu

[David Stocker]

Hi Ralph,

The lilypond-mode worked 'out of the box' for me when after opening a 
.ly file with emacs or saving whatever file I was working on with a .ly 
extension. At least this was true on Ubuntu 8.04 and Emacs 22 from the 
Ubuntu repositories. Did you install Emacs from the repositories? If you 
do, I think it sets all the correct paths by default.


Ralph Palmer wrote:

Hi -

I'm an intermediate lilyponder and a novice penguinista. I have Ubuntu 
8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) mounted on an older laptop. I successfully 
removed the LilyPond version that came with the Ubuntu package, and 
installed 2.12 (although I thought the documentation would come with 
the installation package, and it doesn't seem to be anywhere on the 
machine). Prior to this, I'd been working on an XP machine and using 
ConText to edit my .ly files; I liked it, but it's not available for 
Linux (yet). I've had some experience with Emacs, and I'd like to use 
it for LilyPond. I know there's a lilypond-mode for Emacs, but I can't 
figure out how to locate, configure, download, or use it. Is there a 
more experienced user out there who might be able to walk me through 
it, or at least steer me in the right direction? Or should I cop out 
and use gEdit?


Thanks in advance for any help,

Ralph

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USA
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LilyPond 2.12 and emacs on Ubuntu

[Ralph Palmer]

Hi -

I'm an intermediate lilyponder and a novice penguinista. I have Ubuntu 8.10
(Intrepid Ibex) mounted on an older laptop. I successfully removed the
LilyPond version that came with the Ubuntu package, and installed 2.12
(although I thought the documentation would come with the installation
package, and it doesn't seem to be anywhere on the machine). Prior to this,
I'd been working on an XP machine and using ConText to edit my .ly files; I
liked it, but it's not available for Linux (yet). I've had some experience
with Emacs, and I'd like to use it for LilyPond. I know there's a
lilypond-mode for Emacs, but I can't figure out how to locate, configure,
download, or use it. Is there a more experienced user out there who might be
able to walk me through it, or at least steer me in the right direction? Or
should I cop out and use gEdit?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Ralph

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USA
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Re: Color of notes depending on accidentals

[Kees van den Doel]

In the learning material under "advanced tweaks with Scheme" it shows how to do 
that.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: M Watts 
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Color of notes depending on accidentals
To: cuco 
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org

> cuco wrote:
> > Is there is a way to authomatically color notes that are e.g. sharp?
> >
> >
> >   
> You'd need a function that says: If note name ends in "is", do 
> \override 
> NoteHead #'color = #red, but I don't actually know to do this :eek:
> 
> 
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Re: Color of notes depending on accidentals

[Gilles THIBAULT]

Is there is a way to authomatically color notes that are e.g. sharp?


This function colories in red all "sharped" notes :

%%%
#(define (is-sharped? note)
(let ((p (ly:music-property note 'pitch)))
(and 
(ly:pitch? p)

(equal? (ly:pitch-alteration p) SHARP
 

colorSharp  = #(define-music-function (parser location music )(ly:music?) 
(music-map

(lambda (evt)
 (if (eq? 'EventChord (ly:music-property evt 'name))
  (map 
   (lambda (note) 
(if (is-sharped? note)  
 (ly:music-set-property! note 'tweaks

  (list (list 'color 1.0 0.0 0.0)))
 note))
   (ly:music-property evt 'elements))) 
 evt)  
music

))


music = \relative { 
c4 cis d e f fis g aes g f! dis e c1 }


\new Staff \colorSharp \music 
%

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Re: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki

[Carl D. Sorensen]

On 2/25/09 4:29 PM, "Glen Hein"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Ah ha!! The trick to getting the  images to discard the whitespace
> is to set the tagline to "" in the header. I fixed the rendering on my test
> page. My next hurdle is to get scores with multiple output pages to work.
> 
> One thing I had to do was tweak the code that came from MediaWiki. It concerns
> the command line arguments being sent to lilypond. The original is:
> 
> $cmd = $wgLilypond .
> " --safe --backend=eps --format=png --header=texidoc " .
> escapeshellarg($lyFile) . " 2>&1";
> 
> And here is my version:
> 
>     $cmd = $wgLilypond .
>     " -dbackend=eps --png --header=texidoc " .
>     escapeshellarg($lyFile) . " 2>&1";
> 
> Are there any other arguments you would recommend for 2.11.65?

> 
> I didn't add in the -dbackend=#t argument because I want to use the predefined
> fretboard diagrams. So from a security point-of-view, how bad/dangerous is it
> to have safe disabled for a publicly editted wiki?
> 

Why can't you use safe with predefined fretboard diagrams? Is it just
because addPredefinedFretboard isn't a safe function?  If so, I think we can
just make addPredefinedFretboard a safe function; I believe it won't accept
arbitrary scheme.  But maybe it will take some work.

DON'T PUT LILYPOND UP ON A WIKI WITHOUT USING --safe.  It is a *HUGE*
security risk, because you can execute arbitrary scheme code in lilypond to,
for example, erase the hard drive of your system.  At least, that's my
opinion.

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Naming output files

[aabb]

I'm using multiple \book{} blocks to create multiple output files from 
the same source (to create versions transposed in different keys). By 
default the second and subsequent books are named by adding suffix "-1", 
"-2", "-3", etc. to the file name. For example, with source file 
"song.ly" I would get output files:


song.pdf
song-1.pdf
song-2.pdf
etc.

Is there any way of changing this? Is there a command I can add to a 
\book{} block to specify the output file name, or the suffix to add to 
the base name. E.g. to get files names such as:


song-C.pdf
song-Eb.pdf
etc.

Thanks,
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Re: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki

[Glen Hein]

Ah ha!! The trick to getting the  images to discard the whitespace
is to set the tagline to "" in the header. I fixed the rendering on my test
page. My next hurdle is to get scores with multiple output pages to work.

One thing I had to do was tweak the code that came from MediaWiki. It
concerns the command line arguments being sent to lilypond. The original is:

$cmd = $wgLilypond .
" --safe --backend=eps --format=png --header=texidoc " .
escapeshellarg($lyFile) . " 2>&1";

And here is my version:

$cmd = $wgLilypond .
" -dbackend=eps --png --header=texidoc " .
escapeshellarg($lyFile) . " 2>&1";

Are there any other arguments you would recommend for 2.11.65?

I didn't add in the -dbackend=#t argument because I want to use the
predefined fretboard diagrams. So from a security point-of-view, how
bad/dangerous is it to have safe disabled for a publicly editted wiki?

-Glen


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Glen Hein  wrote:

>
> I figured out one thing so far. For a lilypond fragment, an extra space
> between the last note and the end-tag causes the extra whitespace to be
> removed. Take a look at:
>
> http://www.arizonacoppersoft.com/wiki/index.php/Lilypond_Examples
>
>
> Now, I need to figure out how to do the same to images created with the
>  tags.
>
> -Glen
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> no you haven't goofed up the code. I have the same problems. I worked with
>> some tricks combining the different melodies in one score, but couldn't
>> solve the problem. Help would be welcome.
>>
>> Hajo
>>
>> ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>  tweaking lilypond and mediawiki
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki

[Glen Hein]

I figured out one thing so far. For a lilypond fragment, an extra space
between the last note and the end-tag causes the extra whitespace to be
removed. Take a look at:

http://www.arizonacoppersoft.com/wiki/index.php/Lilypond_Examples


Now, I need to figure out how to do the same to images created with the
 tags.

-Glen


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Hajo Dezelski wrote:

> Hello,
>
> no you haven't goofed up the code. I have the same problems. I worked with
> some tricks combining the different melodies in one score, but couldn't
> solve the problem. Help would be welcome.
>
> Hajo
>
> ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:
>
>>  tweaking lilypond and mediawiki
>>
>
>
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Re: Ossia in String Quartet

[grisu_76]

Dear James,

my score is set up in the following way (see below): the first is a file
called "piece.ly", there I write the piece; if I compile the file "score.ly"
(see below), the ossia stands below the cello-line, not above the violin1.
 
regards, Christian

%%file "piece.ly"
\version "2.12.2"
\include "deutsch.ly"
global = {
\time 2/2
\key c \minor
}
ViolineEins = \new Voice {\relative c'{
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Violino primo "
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin"

g8 \p[(b g b)] << {g[(b g b )]}

\new Staff \with {
  \remove "Time_signature_engraver"
  alignAboveContext = #"ViolineEins"
  fontSize = #-3
  \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = 
#(magstep -3)
  \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = 
#(magstep -3)
  firstClef = ##f
}
  {as8[(b as b)]}
   >>   
\bar "|."
}}
%ViolineZwei, Viola, Cello in the same way 
music = {
<<
  \tag #'score \tag #' vn1 \new Staff { << \global \ViolineEins >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vn2 \new Staff { << \global \ViolineZwei >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vla \new Staff { << \global \Viola >> }
  \tag #'score \tag #' vlc \new Staff { << \global \Cello >> }
>>
}
 END OF FILE

This file produces the full score of the quartet:

 file "score.ly"
\include "piece.ly"
# (set-global-staff-size 14)
\score {
\new StaffGroup \keepWithTag #'score \music
\layout {}
\midi {}
}

%%% END OF FILE


James E. Bailey-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> El 25.02.2009, a las 19:01, grisu_76 escribió:
> 
>>
>> Hello to all!
>>
>> I have got a problem with the addition of an ossia in a string  
>> quartet;
>>
>> I work with the file structure explained in the snippets manual (p. 
>> 230 f).
>> All works out very well - all parts are printed out properly, but  
>> if I want
>> to add an ossia in the viola-part in the score.ly, the examples  
>> form the
>> learning-manual an from the notation-reference manual do not work;  
>> I guess
>> it is because the "score.ly" uses the "piece.ly" to "collect" the
>> information from there (=from the example in the snippets manual:  
>> There it
>> is recommended, to put in a \new Staff = ...)
>> The ossia is printed out, but below the cello-line; it could not be
>> manipulated with the alignAboveContext-command; does someone has  
>> got an
> 
> I don't know exactly how your score is set up, but alignAboveContext  
> needs a named Staff context in order to work, so \new Staff = cello  
> \celloMusic \new Staff \with { alignAboveContext  = cello } \ossiaStaff.
> 
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Re: Color of notes depending on accidentals

[M Watts]

cuco wrote:

Is there is a way to authomatically color notes that are e.g. sharp?


  
You'd need a function that says: If note name ends in "is", do \override 
NoteHead #'color = #red, but I don't actually know to do this :eek:





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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Robin Bannister]

Kees van den Doel wrote.

on 2.12.2 it does *not* work. The output is attached. Bug?



It seems to me that LSR 258 is demonstrating only whiteout.
It is not demonstrating how to deal with the concomitant 
horizontal layout problems, because it cheats here: 
- uses ragged-right = ##f (with only one measure) to get lots of space 
- uses extra-offset to move the text into this space.


And a newish bit of automagic confuses the issue: 
- 2.12 does short snippets with ragged-right by default; 
- 2.10 doesn't, and test2.ly specifies 2.10. 

And the s4-\markup of test2.ly doesn't put the text halfway up. 



You could do something like LSR 475 to get Lilypond to do the positioning. 
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=475


slashAndBurn = {
\once \override NoteHead  #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\once \override NoteHead #'text = #(markup #:whiteout 
" Play loud random notes, then burn your instrument (30 s) " ) }


mm = \relative c'' {
 a4 b c d |
 \slashAndBurn a1 | % "a": vertical position  "1": notehead only
 e4 d e c |
}


Cheers,
Robin


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Re: "Orphaned pages"

[Joe Neeman]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 09:01 -0700, Neil Thornock wrote:
> I always include a dummy score after my main score, something as simple as:
> 
> \score { \mypiecehere }
> \pageBreak
> {c1}
> 
> It forces the spacing routine to spread systems evenly across all pages.
> Good luck!

Is there some reason that you don't use
\paper {
  ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
?




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re:Frescobaldi 0.7.6 released

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear Wilbert,
many thanks for Your fine Lilypond-editor Frescobaldi!
It looks fine and is a very convenient tool to work with lilypond.
I'm only missing a feature, that can change pitches enharmonically,
e.g. convert a cis to des.
Is it possible to write a plugin for this?


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Re: problem with installing frescobaldi

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear Chris,
thanks very much for Your help! I successfully installed Frescobaldi!

2009/2/24, Chris Snyder :
> Stefan Thomas wrote:
>> I tried to install Frescobaldi from source.
>> But I get the following error message:
>> The C++ compiler "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" is not able to compile a
>>   simple test program.
>> I don't undertand the meaning of it-
>> I use Kubuntu, with KDE 4.2
>
> It looks to me like you don't have a proper build environment (including
> a C++ compiler) installed. You can get what you need by installing the
> build-essential package.
>
> Alternatively, I've been working on setting up an Ubuntu PPA (personal
> package archive) that contains Frescobaldi. While I have been told that
> Frescobaldi will likely be included in Ubuntu Jaunty, I'm planning to
> always have the most recent version available in this archive. I also
> provide the latest version of LilyPond (currently 2.12.1 - I haven't
> been able to get a 2.12.2 package to compile because of documentation
> issues that I believe are fixed in git), since LilyPond releases occur
> much more frequently than Ubuntu ones.
>
> You can access the PPA by going to the following address:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~csnyder/+archive/ppa
>
> That page also gives instructions for adding it to your sources.list.
>
> If anyone does use this archive, I'd appreciate feedback. Thanks.
>
> -Chris Snyder
>


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Kees van den Doel]

> > I need something like
> > 
> > music .. |s-\markup {"Play loud random notes, then burn your 
> instrument (30s) "}| more notes...
> 
> This seems to work for me (see attached files).

If I run your test2.ly on 2.12.2 it does *not* work. The output is attached. 
Bug?

Kees



c.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: display chords (Ami7(b5))

[Grammostola Rosea]

Shamus wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Grammostola Rosea wrote:
  

Tim McNamara wrote:


On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:

  

Tim McNamara wrote:


On Feb 22, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:

  

Hi,

How do I make chords with the 5th an half tone lower or higher
(e.g. b5 or #5)?

for example

Am7(b5)

or

D7(#5)


I just asked this same question a couple of weeks ago.  The standard
way would be:

 Am7(b5) for two beats  =  a2:m7.5-   which will render as Aø

 D7(#5) for four beats  =  d1:7.5+   which will render as D7/#5

You can do #9 or b9, etc. this way.  All the altered notes will be
preceded by a slash except the major 7th, m7b5 and diminished chords
which are denoted by a delta, diminished sign or half-diminished
sign respectively.

There are other options for rendering the chords which involve
setting up a file of chord markups.  For more information, look in
the mailing list archives for the thread "Hello! and question about
jazz chords" for more details.  The thread started 10 Feb 2009.


  

Thanks!

Yeah it would be nice if jazz chords will be improved in Lilypond,
like it was suggested in the link you gave...


Well, the jazz chord rendering follows a set of conventions, just not
the ones established at Berklee and in the Real Book.  There's really
nothing wrong with it except that it's not what most jazz musicians
will expect (and the slash is a bit confusing- "is the #5 in the
bass?").   But I've been handed lots of charts at rehearsals with the
chords rendered the way LilyPond does it.

  

No nothing wrong at all. But maybe it is nice to have both (different)
options to display the chords...



This has been a contentious issue for me as well--while in the past the
chord rendering was really awful, the situation *is* much improved today
now that it is possible to override the defaults. Also, there just
doesn't seem to be much agreement on how chords should be rendered even
in category subsets like jazz or pop for that matter.

So my solution has been to maintain a separate file with chord
definitions that I like (side note: it would be nice to be able to
simply include the file and get results that you expect, much like when
you include a language file). I'm including mine here so you can get an
idea of how it's done and how to use it (mebbe I should post this on LSR?).

Perhaps in the future the authors might make a contrib folder for a
whole bunch of different chord styles and make it as easy to use as
including the right file. I don't know how much work would be involved,
but it seems like it would go a long way towards alleviating these kinds
of posts that inevitably crop up as more and more people discover that
they can do really nice lead sheets with lilypond. :-)

  

Thanks for sharing!!



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Re: dynamics below lyrics ?

[James E. Bailey]

El 25.02.2009, a las 17:43, David Stocker escribió:




Neil Thornock wrote:

Well, first off, lyrics in vocal music always go above the staff.
Did you mean to say that /dynamics/ in vocal music should go above  
the staff?


I imagine so, but in a staff where there are lyrics above and below  
the staff, the dynamic placement has always annoyed. Thanks to mats  
and neil for solutions to a problem I always just lived with.


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Re: Ossia in String Quartet

[James E. Bailey]

El 25.02.2009, a las 19:01, grisu_76 escribió:



Hello to all!

I have got a problem with the addition of an ossia in a string  
quartet;


I work with the file structure explained in the snippets manual (p. 
230 f).
All works out very well - all parts are printed out properly, but  
if I want
to add an ossia in the viola-part in the score.ly, the examples  
form the
learning-manual an from the notation-reference manual do not work;  
I guess

it is because the "score.ly" uses the "piece.ly" to "collect" the
information from there (=from the example in the snippets manual:  
There it

is recommended, to put in a \new Staff = ...)
The ossia is printed out, but below the cello-line; it could not be
manipulated with the alignAboveContext-command; does someone has  
got an


I don't know exactly how your score is set up, but alignAboveContext  
needs a named Staff context in order to work, so \new Staff = cello  
\celloMusic \new Staff \with { alignAboveContext  = cello } \ossiaStaff.




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Re: display chords (Ami7(b5))

[Shamus]

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Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> Tim McNamara wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
>>
>>> Tim McNamara wrote:

 On Feb 22, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How do I make chords with the 5th an half tone lower or higher
> (e.g. b5 or #5)?
>
> for example
>
> Am7(b5)
>
> or
>
> D7(#5)

 I just asked this same question a couple of weeks ago.  The standard
 way would be:

  Am7(b5) for two beats  =  a2:m7.5-   which will render as Aø

  D7(#5) for four beats  =  d1:7.5+   which will render as D7/#5

 You can do #9 or b9, etc. this way.  All the altered notes will be
 preceded by a slash except the major 7th, m7b5 and diminished chords
 which are denoted by a delta, diminished sign or half-diminished
 sign respectively.

 There are other options for rendering the chords which involve
 setting up a file of chord markups.  For more information, look in
 the mailing list archives for the thread "Hello! and question about
 jazz chords" for more details.  The thread started 10 Feb 2009.


>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Yeah it would be nice if jazz chords will be improved in Lilypond,
>>> like it was suggested in the link you gave...
>>
>> Well, the jazz chord rendering follows a set of conventions, just not
>> the ones established at Berklee and in the Real Book.  There's really
>> nothing wrong with it except that it's not what most jazz musicians
>> will expect (and the slash is a bit confusing- "is the #5 in the
>> bass?").   But I've been handed lots of charts at rehearsals with the
>> chords rendered the way LilyPond does it.
>>
> No nothing wrong at all. But maybe it is nice to have both (different)
> options to display the chords...

This has been a contentious issue for me as well--while in the past the
chord rendering was really awful, the situation *is* much improved today
now that it is possible to override the defaults. Also, there just
doesn't seem to be much agreement on how chords should be rendered even
in category subsets like jazz or pop for that matter.

So my solution has been to maintain a separate file with chord
definitions that I like (side note: it would be nice to be able to
simply include the file and get results that you expect, much like when
you include a language file). I'm including mine here so you can get an
idea of how it's done and how to use it (mebbe I should post this on LSR?).

Perhaps in the future the authors might make a contrib folder for a
whole bunch of different chord styles and make it as easy to use as
including the right file. I don't know how much work would be involved,
but it seems like it would go a long way towards alleviating these kinds
of posts that inevitably crop up as more and more people discover that
they can do really nice lead sheets with lilypond. :-)

- -- Shamus

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% Pop chords as used in English/American popular music
% by James L. Hammons

% Written against \version "2.11.52"

chordFlat = \markup { \hspace #0.2 \tiny \raise #1.0 \flat }
chordSharp = \markup { \hspace #0.1 \teeny \raise #1.0 \sharp }

popChordsMusic =
{
% Triads

-\markup { "5" }
-\markup { "2" }
%   -\markup { "sus2" }
-\markup { "sus" }
%   -\markup { "sus4" }
%   -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 "o" }
-\markup { \raise #0.8 "o" }
%   -\markup { "dim" }
%   -\markup { "aug" } 
% or +

% Sixths

-\markup { "6" }
-\markup { "m6" }

% Sevenths (including altered)

-\markup { "7" }
-\markup { "m7" }
-\markup { "maj7" }
-\markup { "7sus4" }
-\markup { "7sus2" }
-\markup { "7" \chordFlat "5" }
-\markup { "7" \chordSharp "5" }
%   -\markup { "aug7" }
% or +7
-\markup { "m(maj7)" }
%   -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 { "o" } "7" }
-\markup { \raise #0.8 { "o" } "7" }
%   -\markup { "dim7" }
%   -\markup { \small \raise #1.0 { #(ly:export 
(ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x00f8)) } "7" }
%   -\markup { \raise #0.8 { #(ly:export 
(ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x00f8)) } "7" }
-\markup { "m7" \chordFlat "5" }
-\markup { "maj7" \chordFlat "5" }
-\markup { "maj7" \chordSharp "5" }

% Ninths (including altered--incomplete)

-\markup { "9" }
-\markup { "m9" }
-\markup { "maj9" }
-\markup { "add9" }
-\markup { "6/9" }
-\markup { "m6/9" }
-\markup { "m(maj9)

lilypond 2.12

[Mike Blackstock]

kudos on the new release - it's awesome.

Mike
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WikiLily

[Mike Blackstock]

No, it's not dead. We closed our office in a hurry - my employer 'flew the
coup' as they say. I expect to have WikiLily back up and running before
summer. Been studying the mediawiki hooks stuff and all that and working on
a javascript gui for beginners - they can deposit notes right on the staff
and stuff like that. Plus the lilypond rendering is done in the background
with ajax calls to the server. 'xajax' is pretty nifty.

Cheers,
Mike
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Re: partial measure with independent time signatures

[Mats Bengtsson]

The reason for your problems is that the command \partial 8 is 
equivalent to

\set Score.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)
which does the setting on the Score level. The solution is to make the 
corresponding
setting in the "Timing" context (which is just an alias for the context 
where the

Timing_translator currently lives:

\version "2.12.1"

\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove "Timing_translator"
\remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists "Timing_translator"
\consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
\set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 8)
%\partial 8*1
d8 | d4 f8 a
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/2
\set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment -1 4)
%\partial 4*1
a,4 | d4. e8 f4 g
}
>>

  /Mats


Peter Van Kranenburg wrote:

Hello all,

Why isn't the \partial working in the code below?
I get:

/Users/pvk/tmp/polymeter.ly:20:3: warning: barcheck failed at: -1/8
d8
   | d4 f8 a
/Users/pvk/tmp/polymeter.ly:25:4: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/4
a,4
| d4. e8 f4 g

If I include only one of the staves, everything is ok.

thanks in advance,
Peter van Kranenburg


\version "2.12.1"

\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove "Timing_translator"
\remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists "Timing_translator"
\consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
\partial 8*1
d8 | d4 f8 a
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/2
\partial 4*1
a,4 | d4. e8 f4 g
}
>>



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Ossia in String Quartet

[grisu_76]

Hello to all!

I have got a problem with the addition of an ossia in a string quartet;

I work with the file structure explained in the snippets manual (p.230 f).
All works out very well - all parts are printed out properly, but if I want
to add an ossia in the viola-part in the score.ly, the examples form the
learning-manual an from the notation-reference manual do not work; I guess
it is because the "score.ly" uses the "piece.ly" to "collect" the
information from there (=from the example in the snippets manual: There it
is recommended, to put in a \new Staff = ...)
The ossia is printed out, but below the cello-line; it could not be
manipulated with the alignAboveContext-command; does someone has got an
idea?

Many thanks in advance!

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partial measure with independent time signatures

[Peter Van Kranenburg]

Hello all,

Why isn't the \partial working in the code below?
I get:

/Users/pvk/tmp/polymeter.ly:20:3: warning: barcheck failed at: -1/8
d8
   | d4 f8 a
/Users/pvk/tmp/polymeter.ly:25:4: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/4
a,4
| d4. e8 f4 g

If I include only one of the staves, everything is ok.

thanks in advance,
Peter van Kranenburg


\version "2.12.1"

\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove "Timing_translator"
\remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists "Timing_translator"
\consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"
}
}
% Now each staff has its own time signature.
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
\partial 8*1
d8 | d4 f8 a
}
\new Staff {
\time 2/2
\partial 4*1
a,4 | d4. e8 f4 g
}
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Re: Editorial Annotation

[grisu_76]

Hi James,

thanks for reply, you're right, without the center-align, it works;  - as
for I am a newbee,  I copied these lines form the notation reference manual
(I adapted the esample form the parenthesised dynamics).

regards, christian

  

James E. Bailey-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> El 24.02.2009, a las 16:17, grisu_76 escribió:
> 
>>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I am searching for a possibility to put a trill-sign as an editorial
>> annotation within parentheses, i.e. (tr)
>>
>> I used the following expression:
>>
>> roundTr = \markup {\center-align \concat { \bold { ( } \musicglyph
>> #"scripts.trill" \bold { ) } } }
>>
>> but when I'm using it in the code as f.i. ^\roundTr, the trill- 
>> symbol and
>> the leading parenthese are printed one upon the other; the trailing
>> parenthese is printed correct;
>>
>> Could someone, please, help me with this task?
> 
> What are you expecting from \center-align? Unless I'm  
> misunderstanding, you should get what you want without it.
> 
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Re: dynamics below lyrics ?

[David Stocker]

Neil Thornock wrote:

Well, first off, lyrics in vocal music always go above the staff.
Did you mean to say that /dynamics/ in vocal music should go above the 
staff?


Dave


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Re: dynamics below lyrics ?

[Mats Bengtsson]

By default, the dynamics is handled as part of the corresponding Staff. 
One solution is to
use the "Dynamics" context type defined in the template for "Piano 
centered dynamics" at

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Piano-templates#Piano-templates
(just copy the full \layout block from the example, you don't have to 
understand what every single
line does). Then, you can place the dynamics anywhere, for example below 
the lyrics.


   /Mats

François Labadens wrote:
I would have to put the dynamics below the lyrics... How can I do that 
? Automatically, the order is: Dynamics, then Lyrics...



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Re: dynamics below lyrics ?

[Neil Thornock]

Well, first off, lyrics in vocal music always go above the staff.

But to do what you want, if I understand correctly, you must create a
new context just for dynamics to put below the lyrics.  The
piano-centered dynamics might help.  However, I recently did something
similar by attaching all dynamics to a staff with the following
overrides:

\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = ##f
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
\override Staff.Hairpin #'Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\override Staff.DynamicText #'Y-extent  #'(-1 . 1)
\stopStaff

And then all the dynamics attached to spacers.  There may be better
ways of accomplishing this, but it worked quite well for me.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM, François Labadens
 wrote:
> I would have to put the dynamics below the lyrics... How can I do that ?
> Automatically, the order is: Dynamics, then Lyrics...
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Re: "Orphaned pages"

[Neil Thornock]

I always include a dummy score after my main score, something as simple as:

\score { \mypiecehere }
\pageBreak
{c1}

It forces the spacing routine to spread systems evenly across all pages.
Good luck!

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Bobroff  wrote:
> Håvar Skaugen wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Thanks for developing lilypond. I have begun to typeset all my music with
>> lilypond and I'm very content with the results. However, there's one feature
>> I'm missing:
>>
>> Is it possible to make lilypond avoid orphaned pages; pages that have only
>> one staff or system. These orphaned pages often appear when I make
>> individual parts from my scores. Would it be possible for lilypond to
>> automatically detect orphaned pages and make the staff size slightly smaller
>> until the page disappears?
>>
>
> Check section:
>
> 4.1.2 Page formatting
>
> ...in the docs.  I think system-count and/or page-count will do what you
> want.
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Re: tweaking lilypond and mediawiki

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hello,

no you haven't goofed up the code. I have the same problems. I worked with
some tricks combining the different melodies in one score, but couldn't
solve the problem. Help would be welcome.

Hajo

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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:

> tweaking lilypond and mediawiki
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Re: "Orphaned pages"

[David Bobroff]

Håvar Skaugen wrote:

Hello

Thanks for developing lilypond. I have begun to typeset all my music 
with lilypond and I'm very content with the results. However, there's 
one feature I'm missing:


Is it possible to make lilypond avoid orphaned pages; pages that have 
only one staff or system. These orphaned pages often appear when I make 
individual parts from my scores. Would it be possible for lilypond to 
automatically detect orphaned pages and make the staff size slightly 
smaller until the page disappears?




Check section:

4.1.2 Page formatting

...in the docs.  I think system-count and/or page-count will do what you 
want.


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dynamics below lyrics ?

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I would have to put the dynamics below the lyrics... How can I do that ?
Automatically, the order is: Dynamics, then Lyrics...
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Re: Editorial Annotation

[James E. Bailey]

El 24.02.2009, a las 16:17, grisu_76 escribió:



Hello everyone!

I am searching for a possibility to put a trill-sign as an editorial
annotation within parentheses, i.e. (tr)

I used the following expression:

roundTr = \markup {\center-align \concat { \bold { ( } \musicglyph
#"scripts.trill" \bold { ) } } }

but when I'm using it in the code as f.i. ^\roundTr, the trill- 
symbol and

the leading parenthese are printed one upon the other; the trailing
parenthese is printed correct;

Could someone, please, help me with this task?


What are you expecting from \center-align? Unless I'm  
misunderstanding, you should get what you want without it.




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Color of notes depending on accidentals

[cuco]

Is there is a way to authomatically color notes that are e.g. sharp?


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programming error: cannot align on self: empty element

[melkiy]

Hello.

I write choir scores with 4 voices on 3 staffs. Under the staffs i write
lyrics but not all the time: sometimes the lyrics is the same for two
staffs, and i want to leave the words between 2 staffs. That is i want the
lyrics to be under the 1st staff and not to be under the 2nd one somewhere -
not to overburden the scores. 

I tried to hide the identical part of text with
   \override LyricText   #'stencil = ##f %make text invisible
   \override LyricHyphen #'stencil = ##f %make text hyphens invisible
   some text
   \revert LyricText   #'stencil
   \revert LyricHyphen #'stencil

but this resulted in heaps of warnings: 
"programming error: cannot align on self: empty element
continuing, cross fingers".

I hope you would give me one of the workarounds:

1) explain why the warnings appear (although the scores are compilable)

2) tell me a better way to stop and to start lyrics for a certain voice when
i wish. The structure of my score is:

  \score 
  {
\new ChoirStaff 
<<
  \new Staff
  <<
\clef "treble"
\new Voice = "Sop"  { \voiceOne \TimeKey \SopMusic }
\new Voice = "Alto" { \voiceTwo \AltoMusic }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Sop" { \WordsSop }
  >>
  \new Staff
  <<
\clef "treble"
\new Voice = "Tenor" { \oneVoice \TimeKey \TenorMusic }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Tenor" 
{
  \WordsTenor  % This words need not to be continuously
}
  >>
%Bass staff yet
>>
\layout  { }
  }

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"Orphaned pages"

[Håvar Skaugen]

Hello

Thanks for developing lilypond. I have begun to typeset all my music with  
lilypond and I'm very content with the results. However, there's one  
feature I'm missing:


Is it possible to make lilypond avoid orphaned pages; pages that have only  
one staff or system. These orphaned pages often appear when I make  
individual parts from my scores. Would it be possible for lilypond to  
automatically detect orphaned pages and make the staff size slightly  
smaller until the page disappears?


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Editorial Annotation

[grisu_76]

Hello everyone!

I am searching for a possibility to put a trill-sign as an editorial
annotation within parentheses, i.e. (tr)

I used the following expression:

roundTr = \markup {\center-align \concat { \bold { ( } \musicglyph
#"scripts.trill" \bold { ) } } }

but when I'm using it in the code as f.i. ^\roundTr, the trill-symbol and
the leading parenthese are printed one upon the other; the trailing
parenthese is printed correct;

Could someone, please, help me with this task?

Thanks in advance!

Regards, Christian
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tweaking lilypond and mediawiki

[Glen Hein]

Hello,

I got LilyPond working in a mediawiki page using the lilypond mediawiki
extension. Although, I had to tweak the extension code and I may have goofed
something up.

All of time images being rendered from the  and 
elements have a lot of whitespace. I'm using that lilypond is rendering to
an image based on the paper size. I'd like to have lilypond remove the extra
whitespace from the output image so that it takes less room on the wiki
page. Here is the wiki page I'm working on:

http://www.arizonacoppersoft.com/wiki/index.php/Lilypond_Examples

Thanks,
Glen Hein
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Re: problem with installing frescobaldi

[Chris Snyder]

Till wrote:
> Wow, this looks great, I tried also to compile some time ago but was not
> willing to install all the compiling stuff for kde, since I have gnome. But
> some kde4 libraries I can afford. Did you include all the correct
> dependences? I will try it in the near future.
> Thanks
> Fun btw that lilypond is still considered to be "TeX"...

I did spend quite a bit of time to make sure the dependencies were
right. I haven't tested running Frescobaldi outside of KDE, but the
package does build in a clean environment (absolute base system install
- no Gnome, KDE, X, etc.) just fine, and pulls in the necessary
dependencies. If you do try it, please let me know how it goes.

I also find it amusing that LilyPond is still in the TeX section. I
briefly considered changing it in the builds in my PPA, but figured that
such a change would cause more problems than it was worth. I never
really pay attention to those categories anyways...

-Chris


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[James E. Bailey]

El 25.02.2009, a las 14:56, Gilles Sadowski escribió:


This seems to work for me (see attached files).


But don't you need an \instrumentSwitch command near the end?


I never used this command. How is it related to what the first poster
asked?



well, after playing random notes for 30 seconds, and then burning the  
instruments, most performers will need an instrument switch, to  
replace the burnt ones


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Gilles Sadowski]

>> This seems to work for me (see attached files).
>
> But don't you need an \instrumentSwitch command near the end?

I never used this command. How is it related to what the first poster
asked?

Best,
Gilles


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[M Watts]

Kees van den Doel wrote:

I'm trying to write text in an otherwise empty measure (some special 
performance instructions).
not above it or below, but in it.
How can I do that? There is a snippet  doing something like that

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=258

but when I apply it my text overwrites music after the bar in which the text is 
contained.

I need something like

music .. |s-\markup {"Play loud random notes, then burn your instrument (30s) 
"}| more notes...

  


Maybe this

-

\version "2.12.2"

\relative c' {
   \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(4 . 5.5)

   \override TextScript  #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)

   c4-\markup { \whiteout \pad-markup #0.5 "Play loud random notes, 
then burn your instrument (30s)" } s2.


   d4 e f g

}

\layout { ragged-right = ##f }



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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Robin Bannister]

Gilles Sadowski wrote:

This seems to work for me (see attached files).


But don't you need an \instrumentSwitch command near the end?

Cheers,
Robin


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[Gilles Sadowski]

Hi.

> I need something like
> 
> music .. |s-\markup {"Play loud random notes, then burn your instrument (30s) 
> "}| more notes...

This seems to work for me (see attached files).

Best,
Gilles
\version "2.10.10"

mm = \relative c'' {
  a4 b c d |
  s4-\markup {"Play loud random notes, then burn your instrument (30 s)"} s s s 
|
  e4 d e c |
}

\score {
  \new Staff {
\mm
  }
  \layout {}
}


test2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: \score inside define-markup-command

[Michael Käppler]

Hi Nicolas,
many thanks for that hint!
Using make-score was the point. But also very nice you showed me how to 
deal with layout settings in such a "scheme score".


Michael


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Re: Writing text in a measure

[James E. Bailey]

El 25.02.2009, a las 05:18, Kees van den Doel escribió:

I'm trying to write text in an otherwise empty measure (some  
special performance instructions).

not above it or below, but in it.
How can I do that? There is a snippet  doing something like that

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=258

but when I apply it my text overwrites music after the bar in which  
the text is contained.


I need something like

music .. |s-\markup {"Play loud random notes, then burn your  
instrument (30s) "}| more notes...


Thanks in advance for the help,
Kees


Are you using spacer rests?

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Re: Stanza number before each line of a verse?

[James E. Bailey]

Last time I asked, this is what mats said:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-02/msg00255.html

El 25.02.2009, a las 05:24, Tom escribió:

I want to put the Stanza number before every line of verse in a  
longer hymn, but

cannot get the hint here to work:

http://www.geoffhorton.com/lilypond.html#versenumbers

Investigating the Stanza_number_engraver doesn't seem to give any  
clues, either.

Is this possible to do without manual markup?



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Re: problem with installing frescobaldi

[Cameron Horsburgh]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:06:20AM -0800, Till wrote:

> Fun btw that lilypond is still considered to be "TeX"...


I reported this as a bug to Debian a few years back, but the
maintainer didn't seem overly interested in reclassifying.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=335828



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Re: problem with installing frescobaldi

[Till]

Chris Snyder-5 wrote:
> 
> Alternatively, I've been working on setting up an Ubuntu PPA (personal
> package archive) that contains Frescobaldi. While I have been told that
> Frescobaldi will likely be included in Ubuntu Jaunty, I'm planning to
> always have the most recent version available in this archive. I also
> provide the latest version of LilyPond (currently 2.12.1 - I haven't
> been able to get a 2.12.2 package to compile because of documentation
> issues that I believe are fixed in git), since LilyPond releases occur
> much more frequently than Ubuntu ones.
> 
> You can access the PPA by going to the following address:
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~csnyder/+archive/ppa
> 
> That page also gives instructions for adding it to your sources.list.
> 
> If anyone does use this archive, I'd appreciate feedback. Thanks.
> 
> -Chris Snyder
> 

Wow, this looks great, I tried also to compile some time ago but was not
willing to install all the compiling stuff for kde, since I have gnome. But
some kde4 libraries I can afford. Did you include all the correct
dependences? I will try it in the near future.
Thanks
Fun btw that lilypond is still considered to be "TeX"...

Till



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