A reminder maybe?

2010-04-01 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
I hope I didn't miss this, but has the automatic further shortening of 
downward stems on very low notes and of upward stems on very high notes been
implemented? (There was discussion of this back in the Cretaceous.)
Regards, daveA

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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 01:57:07AM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 2. April 2010 01:11:29 schrieb Graham Percival:
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 04:15:18PM +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > > It seems the real joke is "Release Early, Release Often" in the
> > > same sentence as lilypond.
> > 
> > In the past 5 months, we've had an
> > average of one release every 2 weeks.
> 
> I suppose what Nils meant was not that we have 2.13.x *unstable* *developer* 
> releases every fortnight, but rather that we have stable releases about every 
> two years (of course, not counting the minor releases, which mainly backport 
> fixes to serious problems)...

"Release early, release often" is specifically aimed at developers
-- get the code out there, let people play around with it, let
them help find+fix bugs.  That phrase as **nothing** to do with
stable releases for normal users.

If people want a stable release, they can take a look at the 15
critical issues.  Once those are down, we can announce a beta and
find approximately 5 more critical issues.  Then we'll have a
second beta, and probably discover 2 more issues.  Then we'll have
a third beta, find no more critical issues within two weeks, and
then release 2.14.0.

But this whole process doesn't get off the ground until the
current crop of release-critical issues are fixed.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 2. April 2010 01:11:29 schrieb Graham Percival:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 04:15:18PM +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > It seems the real joke is "Release Early, Release Often" in the
> > same sentence as lilypond.
> 
> In the past 5 months, we've had an
> average of one release every 2 weeks.  Are you seriously
> complaining that we should have had more releases than that?

I suppose what Nils meant was not that we have 2.13.x *unstable* *developer* 
releases every fortnight, but rather that we have stable releases about every 
two years (of course, not counting the minor releases, which mainly backport 
fixes to serious problems)...

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 04:15:18PM +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> It seems the real joke is "Release Early, Release Often" in the
> same sentence as lilypond.

Yeah, well, screw you too.  In the past 5 months, we've had an
average of one release every 2 weeks.  Are you seriously
complaining that we should have had more releases than that?

If so, what are you willing to do in order to make the extra
releases make sense?  Are you offering to fix a bug every 2 days,
or add new features at a similar rate?  That would justify having
a release every week.  There's no point making a new release if
we've only fixed a few typos in the docs.

- Graham


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Re: Pedal markings at the end of a piece of music

2010-04-01 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
This looks like a bug to me. My minimal example:

\version "2.13.16"
{
  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'text
  c''1\sustainOn
}

If the pedalSustainStyle is set to #'mixed or #'bracket then the
bracket indicates the sustain up at the end of the piece. With #'text
style there is no sustain up mark.

Andrew

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Phil Holmes  wrote:
> I am trying to recreate a piece of music as shown in the attached .png.  As
> you see, it has a pedal down marking on the dotted minims in the left hand.
> The pedal stays down as the arpeggiated dotted crochets are played in the
> right hand, and then comes off right at the end of the music.  It's easy to
> notate the pedal down mark, but is there any way to notate pedal up? The
> notation reference says "Pedalling to the final bar line is indicated by
> omitting the final pedal up command" which presumably works for the bracket
> style of pedal marks, but does not seem to place a final pedal up mark when
> using the text style.
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
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Pedal markings at the end of a piece of music

2010-04-01 Thread Phil Holmes
I am trying to recreate a piece of music as shown in the attached .png.  As 
you see, it has a pedal down marking on the dotted minims in the left hand. 
The pedal stays down as the arpeggiated dotted crochets are played in the 
right hand, and then comes off right at the end of the music.  It's easy to 
notate the pedal down mark, but is there any way to notate pedal up? The 
notation reference says "Pedalling to the final bar line is indicated by 
omitting the final pedal up command" which presumably works for the bracket 
style of pedal marks, but does not seem to place a final pedal up mark when 
using the text style.


Any advice appreciated.

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Re: Book with LilyPond, community of professionals

2010-04-01 Thread James Lowe

Rodolfo,

Rodolfo Zitellini wrote:



Apart from layout and co. I am also curious if anyone has experience
in making printer proofs and printing lilypond output with high res
offset printers, ad this will likley be the publisher's output.



Having worked for an offset-litho printers for many, many years the PDFs 
that LilyPond outputs should be enough. Most printers will take PDFs and 
use their own layout software to position etc.


If you are intending on using spot colour then it maybe simpler to just 
give them black and white output and let them sort that out.


Always try to provide some kind of 'mock up' (i.e. what you want the 
finished product to look like with any specific margin or colour 
instruction written on) so that they can make sure their pagination is 
correct before printing and they have a good idea of what the finished 
project needs to be, oh, and always ask for proofs to sign off before 
you start printing. ;)


James


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Re: Book with LilyPond, community of professionals

2010-04-01 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Aaron Dalton  wrote:
> My master's thesis is a modern edition of a book of 16th-century madrigals.
>  It is comprised of two parts: the first is all the discursive stuff, and
> then the second is the text, scores, and apparatus.  I simply have a single
> .lytex file with entries like the following for each madrigal:
>
> \clearpage
> \addcontentsline{toc}{subsection}{1. Amor, che sol dei cor leggiadri ha
> cura}
> \label{madrigal01}
> \lilypondfile{/home/aaron/svn/scores/out/01-3-01.ly}
>
> In my case all the scores are in one place, so I simply \input this file
> wherever I wish it to appear in the larger document.  As you can see, you
> can quite simply put a few madrigals in, then add some text, then do some
> more scores, and back again.  This is producing excellent results for me.
>

Thanks to all for the tips. I did not think of using lilypond-book for
a complete score sice I used it only for snippets in the text. I will
try it right away!

Apart from layout and co. I am also curious if anyone has experience
in making printer proofs and printing lilypond output with high res
offset printers, ad this will likley be the publisher's output.

Cheers,
Rodolfo


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Re: Publishing a book with lilypond

2010-04-01 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Karl Hammar  wrote:
> Rodolfo:
> ...
>> So I am wondering: has anyone experience in publishing his works
>> trough a professional publisher?
>
> I'm my own publisher.
>

I think this simplifies thing a bit, since you don't have to adapt to
someone else's (still unknown..)  workflow :)

> I like a "little smaller than a4" format for choirbooks. I grabbed the
> dimensions from a Bärenreiter choirbook.

I hope the final print will be a little bigger than a4, since I think
it is better for keyboard music.

Ciao,
Rodolfo


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Re: Book with LilyPond, community of professionals

2010-04-01 Thread Aaron Dalton
On 01/04/2010 2:58 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> У ср, 2010-03-31 у 13:41 -0400, Aaron Dalton пише:
>> \clearpage
>> \addcontentsline{toc}{subsection}{1. Amor, che sol dei cor leggiadri ha cura}
>> \label{madrigal01}
>> \lilypondfile{/home/aaron/svn/scores/out/01-3-01.ly}
>>
>> In my case all the scores are in one place, so I simply \input this file 
>> wherever I wish it to appear in the larger document.
> By the way, since all the scores are in one place, you can do this like
> this:
> 
> % first, include files by filenames, no pathes:
> \lilypondfile{01-3-01.ly}
> 
> and then, i believe, process like this:
> $ lilypond-book --process='lilypond -I/home/aaron/svn/scores/out/' book.lytex
> 
> This will allow relocate easily .)
> 
> If needed.
> 

Ooo, I never noticed lilypond-book had an -I switch!  Thanks!
Aaron



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Re: glissando between two notes not joint

2010-04-01 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi Eluze

There's a fair bit on fiddling with glissando lines in Section
5.4.6 of the Notation Reference under Using the line spanner
interface.  If you've not seen this maybe it will help.

Trevor

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Subject: Re: glissando between two notes not joint





Martial-3 wrote:


Need a glissando between two notes not joint ?

add in lsr :  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=662




good idea!

but after tweaking around for hours to get the glissando not to 
clash with
the notes - which of the parameters allows to shorten the 
glissando line on
the left/right - or to shift the line up to make the glissando on 
the
fingering or string numbers i started looking for another 
solution; why

should not lilypond make that work!?

lilypond can: (see attached files)
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p28107783/gliss3.ly glissando between
nonadjacent notes ly
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p28107783/gliss3.png glissando 
between

nonadjacent notes png


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Re: glissando between two notes not joint

2010-04-01 Thread -Eluze


Martial-3 wrote:
> 
> Need a glissando between two notes not joint ?
> 
> add in lsr :  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=662
> 
> 

good idea!

but after tweaking around for hours to get the glissando not to clash with
the notes - which of the parameters allows to shorten the glissando line on
the left/right - or to shift the line up to make the glissando on the
fingering or string numbers i started looking for another solution; why
should not lilypond make that work!?

lilypond can: (see attached files)
   http://old.nabble.com/file/p28107783/gliss3.ly glissando between
nonadjacent notes ly 
   http://old.nabble.com/file/p28107783/gliss3.png glissando between
nonadjacent notes png 


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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Andrzej Kopeć

:-D 


Graham Percival-3 wrote:
> 
> GLASGOW, Scotland -- April 1, 2010 -- The LilyPond development
> team is proud to announce LilyPond 2.14, the latest stable release
> of our award-winning music engraver.  "Music notation for
> everyone" has never looked better!
> http://lilypond.org
> [...]
> 

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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 1. April 2010 13:03:43 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
> Awesome!  Props to all the contributors!
> 
> But...I don't see 2.14 on the download page. Is this an April Fools joke?

If you look at the list of incredibly important features (eyeglasses markup, 
using colored letters in tablatures (huh?!?!?), and some internal function 
call details), that should be pretty clear.

Add to this the urge to use a version with regressions on production systems, 
plus the ascii-art list of contributors, then there can be no doubt that this 
is just a April Fools joke...

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Nick Bailey
On Thursday 01 Apr 2010 08:50:36 Graham Percival wrote:
>   * in tablature, fets can be indicated with colored letters
> instead of numbers.

I think working in an EE dept has finally got to you Graham! Is there similar 
support for bipolar transistors? :)

Very well done on the release! Looking forward to using it.

Nick/.


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Re: Book with LilyPond, community of professionals

2010-04-01 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
У ср, 2010-03-31 у 13:41 -0400, Aaron Dalton пише:
> \clearpage
> \addcontentsline{toc}{subsection}{1. Amor, che sol dei cor leggiadri ha cura}
> \label{madrigal01}
> \lilypondfile{/home/aaron/svn/scores/out/01-3-01.ly}
> 
> In my case all the scores are in one place, so I simply \input this file 
> wherever I wish it to appear in the larger document.
By the way, since all the scores are in one place, you can do this like
this:

% first, include files by filenames, no pathes:
\lilypondfile{01-3-01.ly}

and then, i believe, process like this:
$ lilypond-book --process='lilypond -I/home/aaron/svn/scores/out/' book.lytex

This will allow relocate easily .)

If needed.

> 
> HTH!
> Aaron

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Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2010-04-01 Thread Graham Percival
GLASGOW, Scotland -- April 1, 2010 -- The LilyPond development
team is proud to announce LilyPond 2.14, the latest stable release
of our award-winning music engraver.  "Music notation for
everyone" has never looked better!
http://lilypond.org

Following the open-source motto of "release early, release often",
we are making 2.14 available now.  There are still a few
regression bugs compared to 2.12, but we urge everybody to
download 2.14.0 from the lilypond website when it becomes
available and use it in their production systems.  Let us know if
anything doesn't work; we love getting feedback!  We have
introduced a new "bug voting" system on our website to allow us to
better direct programmer effort:
http://lilypond.org/website/bug-reports.html


Other major new features include:
  * eyeglass markup, to remind musicians to watch the conductor
at critical moments.
  * in tablature, fets can be indicated with colored letters
instead of numbers.
  * The Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm is now fully supported
for single-line markup due to enhanced integration with
Pango, and we now use FT_Error in the prototype for
freetype_error_string().

The full list of new features is online here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/changes/index.html


Having music engraving!

Patrick McCarty - SVG guru, text handler
Nicolas Sceaux - Schemer extraordinaire
Reinhold Kainhofer - musicxml2ly bloke
Werner Lemberg - Fonts, bugz squasher
Jan Nieuwenhuizen - Core development
Han-Wen Nienhuys - Core development
John Mandereau - Translation swain
Trevor Daniels - Asst. doc editor
Jonathan Kulp - Asst. doc editor
Mark Polesky - Code cleanup-er
Mats Bengtsson - Support guru
Valentin Villenave - Web 2.0
Carl Sorensen - Frog master
Francisco Vila - ES writer
Joe Neeman - Spacing guru
Dmytro O. Redchuk - Bugs
James Lowe - Doc gopher
Colin Campbell - Ditto
Marc Hohl - Bug nuker
Graham Percival - me

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Re: Grace notes and Lyrics

2010-04-01 Thread Richard Gay
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:05:18 +0200, Mika Kuuskankare 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can't you put Lyrics (a syllable) on a grace note?
Hi,

I had the same problem and started to work on a patch. You might want
to have a look at
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-de...@gnu.org/msg28324.html
if you are willing to work with the lilypond sources. The patch is not
yet finished but it works already for my case. It would surely be great
if you could provide some test case(s).

Cheers,
Richard


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