Re: vim compiles always in root directory

[Anh Hai Trinh]

My problem:

1. In Gvim I compile a *.ly file somewhere in a directory. I use F5 to
compile it.
2. The output files (*.ps an *pdf) are always in root directory


You need to cd into the directory where you want the output. Either do  
that before bringing vim up (from the command line), or from inside vim  
with

:cd your/path

--aht


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Re: For your edification: meters

[Anh Hai Trinh]

It looks really complicated. I think the diagram try to classify concepts
that apply to different idea.

For example,

* simple(2/4, 3/8 etc.) vs. compound (6/8, 7/8 etc.) applies when talking
about just the meter itself, i.e. one measure of music

* consistent vs. changing applies when talking about meters in one part or
voice

* homogenous vs. polymetric, apply when talking about multiple voices or a
piece of music
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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

[Anh Hai Trinh]

>>> * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter
>>> such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4,
>>> etc.
>
> I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signature is also another 
> well-established term that means something other than what was meant in the 
> doc.

I take that back. The subdivision in the standard meaning of compound meter can 
be extended as even or uneven.

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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

[Anh Hai Trinh]

> Wow ... and I don't have $295 in couch cushion change to spend (every year)
> on a subscription to Grove Music Online.  (You must get a discount

My school pays for it :p

> Wikipedia IS NOT an authoritative source ...
>
>> polymeter implies polyrhythm and therefore is
>> equivalent to your "simulatenous polymeter"
>> . That term should be out!

Ok I was being lazy. The Harvard dict 4th ed. defines

> Polymeter. The simultaneous use of two or more meters.

and there you have it. The term "sequential polymeter" is a contradiction.

> ... But -- this isn't about "authoritative", it's about having a small set
> of well-defined terms to which everything else can refer to eliminate
> ambiguity.  That's what "controlled vocabulary" means.

I understand. My point is that you do not want to contradict a set of 
well-established terms that trained musicians are familiar with, at least in 
the Western musical tradition (which I presume lilypond builds upon).

>> * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter
>> such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4,
>> etc.

I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signature is also another 
well-established term that means something other than what was meant in the doc.

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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

[Anh Hai Trinh]

* additive time sig -- could mean sth like (3 + 3 + 2)/8 or could mean  
irregular meters a la Messian


That should be Messiaen, see  
.



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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

[Anh Hai Trinh]

How can we normalize the terminology?  Here are my thoughts on the  
matter,

trying to distill this into a controlled lexicon --

* polymeter -- the most generic term
* sequential polymeter -- Ralph's definition
* regular
* irregular
* simultaneous polymeter -- Valentin's definition
* regular and irregular (theoretically)

And here's what happens to the list of terms above:

* polymetric time signature
Deleted: although it implies sequential polymeter, it has too many  
possible

interpretations to be useful.

* double time signature
* compound time signature
* additive time signatures
* alternating time signatures

Become "See also _sequential polymeter, regular_"

* mixed meter / mixed time signatures
Becomes "See also "sequential polymeter, irregular_"



I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove Music  
Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a good sign! And  
according to Wikipedia, polymeter implies polyrhythm and therefore is  
equivalent to your "simulatenous polymeter"  
. That term should be out!


The equivalent term to your "sequential polymeter" that I've heared and  
used is "changing meters" or "irregular meter".


* double time sig -- too ambigous whether it's simultaneous or sequential
* compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter  
such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4,  
etc.
* additive time sig -- could mean sth like (3 + 3 + 2)/8 or could mean  
irregular meters a la Messian

* alternating time sig -- a special case of changing/irregular meter

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Re: \book output file name

[Anh Hai Trinh]

I'm having two \book blocks to produce a full score file and parts file.  
Is it possible to suffix each book output filename specifically, instead  
of the generic "-1", "-2", etc. ?


--AT



I figured I should factor out the common stuff and putting the \book block  
into separate .ly files.



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\book output file name

[Anh Hai Trinh]

I'm having two \book blocks to produce a full score file and parts file.  
Is it possible to suffix each book output filename specifically, instead  
of the generic "-1", "-2", etc. ?


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Re: GDP: What term do you use?

[Anh Hai Trinh]

Octave transposition seems a confusing, since transposition in music
usually implies that the passage is to be played in a different key.
Octave displacement does not change the key.



According to Harvard dict. of music 4th ed.:

Transposition. the rewriting or performance of music at a pitch other  
than the original one.


It does not imply change of key in all contexts, keys have meaning only in  
tonal music anyway.


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Re: GDP: What term do you use?

[Anh Hai Trinh]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:04:35 -0500, Kieren MacMillan  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Eyolf,


Or one might turn the argument around and say that the melody is indeed
trans-posed -- placed somewhere else, whereas the negative associations
of dis- is that it's ended up in the wrong place...


Interesting point...

Really, what we're talking about is a NOTATIONAL SHORTHAND: the notes in  
question aren't actually TRANSPOSED or DISPLACED, just like notes in a  
"treble_8" clef are neither TRANSPOSED nor DISPLACED: they are simply  
NOTATED using a different (shorthand) method.



I think you are mistaken here, a concert A written in any clef would sound  
with f = 440Hz, whereas a written concert A with a 8va bracket would sound  
with f = 880Hz. Anything sounding at a different interval than what is  
notated is called transposition in orchestration books. I believe the  
correct term, if there need be one, would be "octave transposition".


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Re: tempo marking fuction

[Anh Hai Trinh]

That's it. Thank you!
-AT

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:24:47 -0500, Mats Bengtsson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Ledocq-Boccart wrote:

Hi,

Maybe these links will help!

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/lily-5ec9ac4df8.ly  
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Moving-objects#Moving-objects  
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Saving-typing-with-identifiers-and-functions#Saving-typing-with-identifiers-and-functions
Unfortunately, none of the above links provide much additional  
information
compared to what's already use by Anh. However, the one below includes  
the

line that he probably is looking for:
\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
This gives the left alignment of the text marks.

   /Mats



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tempo marking fuction

[Anh Hai Trinh]

Hello,

I want to have a function that can put text tempo marking, e.g. "Allegro".
The manual suggests


tempoMark = #(define-music-function (parser location padding marktext)
   (number? string?)
#{
  \once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'padding = $padding
  \once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'no-spacing-rods = ##t
  \mark \markup { \bold $marktext }
#})




But that put the text centered on the bar line and that's not right. Is
there a way to do it properly, i.e. left aligned with the bar?

Thanks,
AT


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point-and-click in evince

[Anh Hai Trinh]

Hello lilypond-users,

I am wondering if there is a way to set up point-and-click with GNOME  
Evince? That would be really nice.


Thank you all,
Anh Trinh


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