Re: ERROR hara-kiri pure-height

2007-07-09 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Joe, Graham,

I'll try to isolate the code that's resulting in this error as best I  
can.

Might take a day or so, since it's part of a big piece.
I'll forward it to the list soon.

Thanks for the reply.

Cheers,
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On 9 Jul 2007, at 23:40, Joe Neeman wrote:


On Tuesday 10 July 2007 01:07, Sean Reed wrote:

Hi,

I'm receiving the following error when compiling a piano part with

centered dynamics:

Preprocessing graphical objects...ERROR: In procedure ly:hara-kiri-
group-spanner::pure-height:
ERROR: Wrong type argument in position 2: 0


Is this a known error on the software side or should I try to isolate
some code that causes it?


It isn't a known error, but you may have some difficulty in  
isolating the code
that caused it. If you can't narrow it down, you can just send the  
whole
file. If you don't want to send the file to the list (for copyright  
reasons,

or whatever), you can send it to me privately.




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ERROR hara-kiri pure-height

2007-07-09 Thread Sean Reed

Hi,

I'm receiving the following error when compiling a piano part with  
centered dynamics:


Preprocessing graphical objects...ERROR: In procedure ly:hara-kiri- 
group-spanner::pure-height:

ERROR: Wrong type argument in position 2: 0


Is this a known error on the software side or should I try to isolate  
some code that causes it?


The lilypond file causing the error compiled fine with 2.11.12 but  
returns this error with 2.11.26 even after running the syntax-update.

I'm using 2.11.26 on a MacIntel with 10.4.10.

Cheers,
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compile ERROR hara-kiri pure-height

2007-07-03 Thread Sean Reed
I've encountered an ERROR while compiling an older ly file (worked  
with 2.11.12) using 2.11.26.

I updated the syntax and still received the error.
(Of course, now it won't compile with the 2.11.12 any more).

It is a piano part from an ensemble piece that uses the centered- 
dynamics workaround from the manual.

I adjusted the workaround to the newer version of the manual as well.

Lilypond seems to successfully interpret the music, then gives me  
this error:


Preprocessing graphical objects...ERROR: In procedure ly:hara-kiri- 
group-spanner::pure-height:

ERROR: Wrong type argument in position 2: 0

The piece is 150 measures long, giving me 450 measures combined of  
leftHand, rightHand, and centeredDynamics in which the error (or  
wrong argument type) could be found.


Would anybody have any hints on even what to be looking for in the  
code so I could isolate the lines that are producing the error?

I'd be very grateful!

Thanks,
Sean


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Re: osx intel broken?

2006-12-26 Thread Sean Reed



after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that
won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this




The frontend of the intel version claims to be ppc, but the actual
processing is done in native intel code.  It works fine here.


however, the macIntel 2.11.x versions will run a few times, but  
after

a certain number of measures it doesn't seem to complete the
compilation process. (i haven't found a pattern to it yet, the



the console stops producing any feedback suddenly and opens the .pdf
in Preview immediately after the "Preprocessing graphical  
objects..."

statement with no changes to the output. the "date modified" of



I run into this exact situation every so often. Almost every time
there winds up being something quite spectacularly off in my rhythmic
input.


I think you're hitting on crashes that are triggered due to your  
unorthodox
rhythms. The process log window in the macos X version is not so  
sophisticated,
so it doesn't properly print error messages for core dumps and  
similar.


Still, if you can manage to reproduce any of this, please send me  
an offending

input.


Well, I found the offending input, and it appears to be something  
completely different all together:


It appears to be unterminated slurs that are the offending input, but  
only as of lilypond 2.11.x, and only at bar lines.


Here's an example:

Using 2.11.5, lilypond stops at the "Preprocessing graphical  
objects..." and outputs no .ps/.pdf when compiling this expression:

{d'4 cis' d' cis'(}

However, THIS expression (slur beginning moved back one note) results  
in only a warning in the console about an unterminated slur, but  
the .ps/.pdf is created and displayed:

{d'4 cis' d'( cis'}

Using 2.10.5, both of these expressions are compiled to completion  
and the .pdf is opened. Both return the "unterminated slur" warning,  
but finish anyway. In the case where the slur is begun on the last  
note of the measure using 2.10.5, the slur is merely not drawn on the  
output.


This issue made itself evident to me because my scores are often  
hundreds of measures long, and when tweaking them I often comment out  
all but 5 or 10 bars at a time.


Hope this is of some significance for you.

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Re: osx intel broken?

2006-12-25 Thread Sean Reed

>> after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that
>> won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this



> The frontend of the intel version claims to be ppc, but the actual
> processing is done in native intel code.  It works fine here.



>
> - Graham

hi graham, hi james,

the stable macIntel version 2.10.x runs fine on my intel macbook pro
(10.4.8).

however, the macIntel 2.11.x versions will run a few times, but after
a certain number of measures it doesn't seem to complete the
compilation process.


I run into this exact situation every so often. Almost every time
there winds up being something quite spectacularly off in my rhythmic
input.


Hi Trevor,

Thanks for the tip, since I do use lots of complicated rhythms.

I'm not sure that it's the cause in this instance, however, since the  
exact same lilypond file compiles with no problems using the mac- 
intel 2.10.x version of lilypond on the same machine.


Is anybody else experiencing this?

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Re: osx intel broken?

2006-12-25 Thread Sean Reed


after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that  
won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this  
computer before I re-installed it, so am I missing something? Or  
is the file that is downloaded from the intel link actually a ppc  
program?


The frontend of the intel version claims to be ppc, but the actual  
processing is done in native intel code.  It works fine here.   
Please try double-clicking the intel version.


- Graham


hi graham, hi james,

i've been experiencing a similar situation since i started work on a  
macIntel, which coincided with 2.11.x coming out.


the stable macIntel version 2.10.x runs fine on my intel macbook pro  
(10.4.8).


however, the macIntel 2.11.x versions will run a few times, but after  
a certain number of measures it doesn't seem to complete the  
compilation process. (i haven't found a pattern to it yet, the  
current score i'm working on compiles fine up to 29 measures).


the console stops producing any feedback suddenly and opens the .pdf  
in Preview immediately after the "Preprocessing graphical objects..."  
statement with no changes to the output. the "date modified" of  
the .ps and .pdf files doen't appear to change either. when i go back  
and comment out everything but the first few measures, it works fine  
again.


the 2.11.x output great, by the way.

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Re: PhrasingSlur-Slur conflict

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Graham,

Thanks for the reply.
I've put together what I think is a relatively straightforward, step- 
by-step presentation of the problem I'm having.

Hope it helps.
I added the second bar of eights because the effect is more  
noticeable in a narrower bar.


Best,
Sean

***

\version "2.11.0"


% all looks fine; one outer PhrasingSlur and a small Slur in the  
MIDDLE of the gesture

{
\relative c' {
c'16\( f, f f f f f( f f f f) f f f f c'\) |
f8 f f f f f f f |
}
}

% huge PhrasingSlur by adding a small Slur on the first two notes
{
\relative c' {
c'16\(( f,) f f f f f( f f f f) f f f f c'\) |
f8 f f f f f f f |
}
}

% now you can't make the PhrasingSlur smaller by adjusting height- 
limit; (can make it larger, however)

{
\override PhrasingSlur #'height-limit = #0.1
%\override PhrasingSlur #'height-limit = #20.1
\relative c' {
c'16\(( f,) f f f f f( f f f f) f f f f c'\) |
f8 f f f f f f f |
}
}

% PhrasingSlur looks better when changing the Cs to Fs, but still  
much larger than the first example

{
\relative c' {
f16\(( f) f f f f f( f f f f) f f f f f\) |
f8 f f f f f f f |
}
}

% note: all looks fine if the PhrasingSlur is automatically placed  
above the notes with the smaller Slur below the notes

{
\relative c' {
c'16\(( f,) r8 f16 f f( f f f f) f f f f c'\) |
f8 f f f f f f f |
}
}


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On 30 Nov 2006, at 02:51, Graham Percival wrote:


Sean Reed wrote:
I'm getting extremely huge phrasing slurs now and again when the  
first note of the phrase is also a short normal slur within the  
phrasing slur.

\version "2.11.0"
{
r16.[ f'32-. f'8-.] r4 c''32(\([ f') r8 f'32 f'] r8.[ a'16(] |
f'8)[ r8] r8[ a'32 a'\) r16] r16.[ c''32(\( f'8)] r8[ f'16 f'\)] |
}


This looks like a bug.  Could you create an easier-to-understand  
example that displays the same behavior?  (ie try to create an  
example using simple rhythms and only a few different notes)


Cheers,
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PhrasingSlur-Slur conflict

2006-11-28 Thread Sean Reed

Hi,

Using lilypond 2.11.0, MacOS 10.4.8, PB G4:

I'm getting extremely huge phrasing slurs now and again when the  
first note of the phrase is also a short normal slur within the  
phrasing slur.


In this context I have also discovered that changing the #'height- 
limit of the PhrasingSlur has no effect when there is a short Slur  
started from the same note.


Here's an example:

\version "2.11.0"

{
r16.[ f'32-. f'8-.] r4 c''32(\([ f') r8 f'32 f'] r8.[ a'16(] |
f'8)[ r8] r8[ a'32 a'\) r16] r16.[ c''32(\( f'8)] r8[ f'16 f'\)] |
}

Changing the #'height-limit of the PhrasingSlur with a \once  
\override works as long as the short Slur is not begun on the same  
note as the PhrasingSlur.


Any hints?

Thanks,
Sean

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Mac lilypond textditor enhancements

2006-07-29 Thread Sean Reed
Hi Han-Wen,I've been spending time recently looking for the most efficient and helpful text editor combinations for my lilypond work.I use a Mac PPC with 10.4.7.My primary interests in a text editor are line-numbers (to be able to find things when I've made typing errors in my files), something that opens in conjunction with point-and-click, perhaps syntax highlighting, and maybe a choice of which font I use.The current text editor that comes with the LilyPond.app doesn't do those things (you can change the fonts while working on the files, but they're gone again when you save and reopen them), and as we briefly discussed in a mail a while back, I can't change a setting somewhere that allows me to select which text program is opened when I click on a PDF of my lilypond scores.I would be willing to sponsor an extension of the current features if you had the time and interest in adding them.I currently use TextWrangler for my lilypond files, which allows me the line numbering and minimal syntax highlighting (I have the display read the ly files with LaTeX syn-highlighting and it gives me all I need since the commands are all also preceded backslashes).Either option would be fine for me: the choice of which editor (some people could then choose emacs, perhaps) or an extension of the current included text editor for the LilyPond.app.Would you be willing to work on adding such features (feature), and if so, what might it cost?Thanks,Sean ___Sean ReedHamburg, Germanywww.seanreed.de ___
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--dvi GUILE error

2006-07-29 Thread Sean Reed
Hi,I'm having some trouble getting LilyPond to produce a dvi from a terminal shell on Mac 10.4.7, LP 2.9.13.I have the LilyPond.app in my Applications folder with an export PATH to the LilyPond.app/Contents in my .profile From a bash shell I'm using this command:lilypond -backend=tex --dvi lilypondFile.lyI first had to add the /usr/local/teTex to my PATH to access the kpsewhich.Having done that, I still receive this error:Calculating page breaks.../Applications/musicOsX/lilypond/2913-1/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:1: error: GUILE signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here# (if (pair? toplevel-scores)unbound variable: output-framework/Applications/musicOsX/lilypond/2913-1/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:5: error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting '='#(if      (pair? toplevel-scores)error: failed files: I found some references in the archives, but couldn't find the specific error.Any clues?Thanks,Sean ___Sean ReedHamburg, Germanywww.seanreed.de ___
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Re: LilyPondTool MacOSX help

2006-07-29 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Jo,

Thanks for the help!

Stephen provided the older versions of Console and ErrorList. (I  
haven't fooled around to see of both these older versions are  
required, or just one.)

I only changed the Console, not the ErrorList, and it worked.

Also, while the PDF viewer is set to AcroRd32.exe, Preview.app is  
launching for me.

Didn't work for me.

Under 'Commands' I've set LilyPond command to '/usr/local/bin/ 
lilypond', which is where my lilypond is.
I put the path in through the LilyPond.app/Contents to the /bin/ 
lilypond at it worked fine.


jEdit wasn't picking up my $PATH from etc/profile or my own  
personal .profile in my home directory. Setting the lilypond  
command explicity got lilypond to run.
Putting the full path in seemed to work fine for me, so I didn't  
bother with the rest.

I have the binary downloaded, and it seems to work fine that way.


Getting convert-ly to run took a tiny bit of hacking.
Again, I just put the path to the convert-ly in the LilyPond.app/ 
Contents... in here and it works fine.


Thanks again!
-Sean

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My best,
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:LilyPondTool MacOSX help

Hi Bertalan,

I used LilyPondTool exclusively for all my scores with enormous
satisfaction until April of 2005 on Mac OSX.

I recently updated the tool, but it no longer works. Things appear to
have changed.
Maybe you could help me out a bit.

I've downloaded the plugin in jEdit4.2 and all of the associate  
plugins.

In the plugin options, I put in the bash shell path as /bin/bash.
However, the options seem quite Windows-based, since there is a
choice for "native" or "cygwin", and since the PDF viewer is listed
with an .exe (when I try to choose the Preview.app, I have to go all
the way into the contents of the application to find the unix binary).

The menu bar appears, just like it used to.

When I try to compile the score, I get the following error:
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: console.Console.setShell(Ljava/lang/
String;)V
with a whole long list of sub-errors.

Recently, another user wrote to the list asking about something  
similar.

He replaced the new version of the Console with an older one, but
still received this error:
AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: convert-ly: not found
I experienced the same problem.

Any clues on what to do to get it running again?
LilyPondTool was always a great asset in my work on scores.

Best,
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Re: LilyPondTool MacOSX help

2006-07-29 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Bert,

Thanks for the trouble.
Using Jo's help, I've got it up and running.
Still looking forward to the new release!

Thanks for the work!

-Sean



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Well, the Console plugin's maintainers has changed the plugin in an  
incompatible way. Now I can see that I have to make a release for  
the newer version. Until then, you could try to run the lilypond- 
related commands outside LilyPondTool, maybe using the Console  
plugin by itself.


Next week I'll going to make a release of LilyPondTool's latest  
version.


Bert

Sean Reed írta:

Hi Bertalan,

I used LilyPondTool exclusively for all my scores with enormous  
satisfaction until April of 2005 on Mac OSX.


I recently updated the tool, but it no longer works. Things appear  
to have changed.

Maybe you could help me out a bit.

I've downloaded the plugin in jEdit4.2 and all of the associate  
plugins.

In the plugin options, I put in the bash shell path as /bin/bash.
However, the options seem quite Windows-based, since there is a  
choice for "native" or "cygwin", and since the PDF viewer is  
listed with an .exe (when I try to choose the Preview.app, I have  
to go all the way into the contents of the application to find the  
unix binary).


The menu bar appears, just like it used to.

When I try to compile the score, I get the following error:
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: console.Console.setShell(Ljava/lang/ 
String;)V

with a whole long list of sub-errors.

Recently, another user wrote to the list asking about something  
similar. He replaced the new version of the Console with an older  
one, but still received this error:

AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: convert-ly: not found
I experienced the same problem.

Any clues on what to do to get it running again?
LilyPondTool was always a great asset in my work on scores.

Best,
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LilyPondTool MacOSX help

2006-07-27 Thread Sean Reed
Hi Bertalan,I used LilyPondTool exclusively for all my scores with enormous satisfaction until April of 2005 on Mac OSX.I recently updated the tool, but it no longer works. Things appear to have changed.Maybe you could help me out a bit.I've downloaded the plugin in jEdit4.2 and all of the associate plugins.In the plugin options, I put in the bash shell path as /bin/bash.However, the options seem quite Windows-based, since there is a choice for "native" or "cygwin", and since the PDF viewer is listed with an .exe (when I try to choose the Preview.app, I have to go all the way into the contents of the application to find the unix binary).The menu bar appears, just like it used to.When I try to compile the score, I get the following error:	java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: console.Console.setShell(Ljava/lang/String;)Vwith a whole long list of sub-errors.Recently, another user wrote to the list asking about something similar. He replaced the new version of the Console with an older one, but still received this error:	AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: convert-ly: not foundI experienced the same problem.Any clues on what to do to get it running again?LilyPondTool was always a great asset in my work on scores.Best,Sean ___Sean ReedHamburg, Germanywww.seanreed.de ___
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Re: dotted phrasing slurs

2006-05-27 Thread Sean Reed

Hi again Fr. P.

Sorry about that.
Didn't help, did it?
After fiddling with it a bit more, I see what you mean.

Best,
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On 26.05.2006, at 19:09, Monk Panteleimon wrote:


Dear friends,

How can I make a dotted phrasing slur? I have tried  
\phrasingSlurDotted and

also several wild guesses beginning with \once \override Slur...
Using \slurDotted before a phrasing slur makes the next non- 
phrasing slur to

be dotted. I looked in the user archive, but encountered only opacity.

Also, is it possible to have dotted slurs between lyrics (in order to
persuade people not to breath between specific words)?

Many thanks
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Re: dotted phrasing slurs

2006-05-27 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Fr. P,

Try this for the dotted phrasing slurs:

{
\slurDashed
c4( d e f)
\slurDotted
g4( a b c)
}

Can't help you on the slurs between lyrics, sorry.

Best,
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On 26.05.2006, at 19:09, Monk Panteleimon wrote:


Dear friends,

How can I make a dotted phrasing slur? I have tried  
\phrasingSlurDotted and

also several wild guesses beginning with \once \override Slur...
Using \slurDotted before a phrasing slur makes the next non- 
phrasing slur to

be dotted. I looked in the user archive, but encountered only opacity.

Also, is it possible to have dotted slurs between lyrics (in order to
persuade people not to breath between specific words)?

Many thanks
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Re: mac osx point and click editor

2006-05-11 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Han-Wen,

Thanks for the response.

On 08.05.2006, at 18:59, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:

Sean Reed wrote:
Does anybody know how to change the text editor application that  
is opened when you point-and-click on a .pdf file of a lilypond  
score in MacOSX 10.4.6?

[...]

I first changed the EDITOR in my .profile,

[...]

I then

[...]

create a .MacOSX folder and an environment.plist, and in that I put:
EDITOR
the/path/to/my/other/text/application/


On MacOS X, it doesn't work like that.

[...]
I could add a sponsorerd feature for this, but it will take me some  
effort (for which I have to charge.)

OK. I'll get back to you on that at some point.
It would be a neat feature that I'd be willing to sponsor at some  
point, but it's probably not all that pressing at the moment.


It might be more efficient to talk to Ed Baskerville and have him  
add something to his lilypad application.

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Re: mac osx point and click editor

2006-05-08 Thread Sean Reed

Hi again,

Same question, after some newly failed attempts on my part.

A new phrasing of the question:

Does anybody know how to change the text editor application that is  
opened when you point-and-click on a .pdf file of a lilypond score in  
MacOSX 10.4.6?


Is that even possible?

In chapter 12.7 of the current manual (2.9.3) it says lilypond-invoke- 
editor tests the environment variable for EDITOR.
I first changed the EDITOR in my .profile, but clicking on a note in  
the .pdf image still opened the appropriate .ly file with the  
LilyPond.app.


I then followed the directions in a rather old link from the apple  
developers website to create a .MacOSX folder and an  
environment.plist, and in that I put:

EDITOR
the/path/to/my/other/text/application/

...and logged out and back in.
Clicking on a note in the pdf image still opened the appropriate .ly  
file with LilyPond.app.


I have nothing against the LilyPond.app, but I do most of my texts  
with TextWrangler, including my lilypond scores, and I thought it  
would be convenient to have the point-and-click open the appropriate  
files again right into that editor.


I'd be very grateful for any clues.

Thanks,
Sean

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Reading Appendix D of the manual (2.8), it seems the default editor  
for point
and click indeed CAN be changed, but the manual is -- to me, at  
least --
completely unclear on how to do so. It is, at least, clear to me  
that no
fiddling with OS X (e.g. the Get Info advice I gave earlier) will  
accomplish
what you want. There's some kind of environment variable that must  
be changed,

and it looks like once you have done that you are in tall cotton.


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Re: mac osx point and click editor

2006-05-01 Thread Sean Reed
Hi Carrick,That's the first thing I tried. It didn't work though. I chose GetInfo and changed the application to TextWrangler, and now all .ly files open in TextWrangler when I double click on them, which is great.But when I point and click at an item in a PDF file of an ly score, it still is opened by the LilyPond.app.Any other clues?Sean ___Sean ReedHamburg, Germanywww.seanreed.de On 01.05.2006, at 19:34, Carrick Patterson wrote: Click on an .ly file and do Get Info. You'll see a place where you can change the application that opens the file. Change to the application you like. There is an option to change all files of this kind to that application. Choose that.  From: Sean Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 19:14:39 +0200 To: User's List LilyPond <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: mac osx point and click editor  Hi,  The current point and click function on MacOSX automatically opens   the file with the LilyPond.app (10.4.6-PPC, ly2.9.2).  Is there a way to change the editor that is used to open the .ly file   with point and click? By putting the path to something like   TextWrangler or EnhancedCarbonEmacs somewhere?  I've tried changing the EDITOR in my .profile, and that hasn't seemed   to do anything for me.  Thanks, Sean  ___ Sean Reed Hamburg, Germany www.seanreed.de___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user   ___
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mac osx point and click editor

2006-05-01 Thread Sean Reed

Hi,

The current point and click function on MacOSX automatically opens  
the file with the LilyPond.app (10.4.6-PPC, ly2.9.2).


Is there a way to change the editor that is used to open the .ly file  
with point and click? By putting the path to something like  
TextWrangler or EnhancedCarbonEmacs somewhere?


I've tried changing the EDITOR in my .profile, and that hasn't seemed  
to do anything for me.


Thanks,
Sean

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Re: uncertain about MIDI dynamic scaling

2006-04-25 Thread Sean Reed

Hi Mats,

I guess you can't please them all, can you.

Is there documentation somewhere on how the .midiMinimumVolume  
and .midiMaximum values specifically effect the velocity scaling? I  
expected it to scale #0.0=0 to #1.0=127, but I discovered that you  
can go above 1.0 and below 0.0 into negative values. For now I used a  
hit or miss approach to gradually tweak the scaling to my taste,  
opening the MIDI files in Digital Performer and looking at the values  
in the event lists.


Through experimenting I also discovered that the dynamic range in  
LilyPond is
\p to \.  The current downloadable PDF version of the manual  
still states this range as \ppp to \fff (with a typo as well, I  
think, since \fff is listed twice).


Best,
Sean


On 25.04.2006, at 00:01, Mats Bengtsson wrote:


Usually, we have had complaints about that the
dynamic range was too large, so the silent dynamics
were inaudible. So, it may happen that the default
range has been compressed compared to early versions
of LilyPond.

  /Mats

Sean Reed wrote:


Hi,

Is it possible that the scaling on the MIDI dynamics is off somehow?

I found a few mentions of this in the archives but no specific   
discussions of this particular issue.


I noticed today after not using MIDI output from LilyPond for  
several  versions (and months) that the differences in the volume  
between  dynamics don't seem as noticeable as I remembered them  
from earlier  versions.


As a test, I rendered a MIDI file of this lily code:
{c8\ppp d\pp e\p f\mp g\mf a\f b\ff c\fff}

and opened it in Digital Performer and looked at the events list.
The velocities in the events list are:
53 - 62 - 69 - 77 - 85 - 94 - 100  - 107

I would have expected them to be more like
16 - 32 - 48 - 64 - 80 - 96 - 112 - 128

Am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks for any hints.

Best,
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uncertain about MIDI dynamic scaling

2006-04-24 Thread Sean Reed

Hi,

Is it possible that the scaling on the MIDI dynamics is off somehow?

I found a few mentions of this in the archives but no specific  
discussions of this particular issue.


I noticed today after not using MIDI output from LilyPond for several  
versions (and months) that the differences in the volume between  
dynamics don't seem as noticeable as I remembered them from earlier  
versions.


As a test, I rendered a MIDI file of this lily code:
{c8\ppp d\pp e\p f\mp g\mf a\f b\ff c\fff}

and opened it in Digital Performer and looked at the events list.
The velocities in the events list are:
53 - 62 - 69 - 77 - 85 - 94 - 100  - 107

I would have expected them to be more like
16 - 32 - 48 - 64 - 80 - 96 - 112 - 128

Am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks for any hints.

Best,
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Re: different notehead sizes in one chord

2005-12-04 Thread Sean Reed

On 03.12.2005, at 15:48, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Bertalan Fodor wrote:

Could an easier and faster way be sponsored?


I could add something along the lines of

  \tag

which would be used like

 <  \tweak #'(style . baroque) c4
>


Cost: 130 EUR (incl VAT for EU individuals)


bertalan: since you expressed your interest in this as well, would  
you maybe consider going halves on me for sponsoring this?


best,
sean


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Re: 2717 and up creates no pdf of old lys in macosx

2005-12-03 Thread Sean Reed

no...

change that...

i had only reentered a few lines, but when i entered a few more just  
now, i seem to have narrowed the culprit down a bit.


it would appear that it might have something to do with the beaming  
of rests.
more specifically: when i manually beam a beat together that starts  
and ends with a rest (see example below).


best,
sean

===
\version "2.7.15"

newNotes = \relative c' {
r16[ bes' d,32 a' e32 ges] % works
r16[ b b8] % works
	% r16[ b r8] % doesn't work (works with 2.7.10, .11, .13, .14, . 
15... i never downloaded .12 or .16)-- hangs with versions .17 to .20  
and produces no pdf output

}

\score {
\new Staff \newNotes
}
===



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On 03.12.2005, at 14:16, Sean Reed wrote:


hi erik,

On 03.12.2005, at 13:17, Erik Sandberg wrote:


On Friday 02 December 2005 19.37, Sean Reed wrote:

sorry if this has come up before, but i'm finding an unexplainable
behavior with newer version of lilypond on macos 10.4.

i have several .ly files that i began around 2.7.7 or so, that are
relatively long.
when i open them in any version up to 2.7.15 they compile fine and
produce pdf output.

..

shortening the original file to only a few lines (4 or 5) and saving
it also brings no change.


Does _any_ .ly file work? Try e.g. a file containing only:
{ c4 }
yes. all files that i enter NEW work. in other words, if i were to  
REENTER the old files into new ones, the exact same code seems to  
work just fine. but i'd really rather avoid doing that. i've got  
hundreds of measures in ensemble pieces with several instruments.


i've thought it might be "gremlins" in the text (at least that's  
what "barebones" software calls them... i use textwrangler a lot to  
create my files), but i can't seem to find any. i know with other  
programs that are originally linux-based (such as the old helmut  
dersch panorama software and the newest port of the physical  
modeling software "tao"), that the old scripts only work when i  
create them using the old "simpletext" program in the classic  
environment. but my lilypond files won't open with simple text.


still at a bit of a loss.

thanks,
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Re: 2717 and up creates no pdf of old lys in macosx

2005-12-03 Thread Sean Reed

hi erik,

On 03.12.2005, at 13:17, Erik Sandberg wrote:


On Friday 02 December 2005 19.37, Sean Reed wrote:

sorry if this has come up before, but i'm finding an unexplainable
behavior with newer version of lilypond on macos 10.4.

i have several .ly files that i began around 2.7.7 or so, that are
relatively long.
when i open them in any version up to 2.7.15 they compile fine and
produce pdf output.

..

shortening the original file to only a few lines (4 or 5) and saving
it also brings no change.


Does _any_ .ly file work? Try e.g. a file containing only:
{ c4 }
yes. all files that i enter NEW work. in other words, if i were to  
REENTER the old files into new ones, the exact same code seems to  
work just fine. but i'd really rather avoid doing that. i've got  
hundreds of measures in ensemble pieces with several instruments.


i've thought it might be "gremlins" in the text (at least that's what  
"barebones" software calls them... i use textwrangler a lot to create  
my files), but i can't seem to find any. i know with other programs  
that are originally linux-based (such as the old helmut dersch  
panorama software and the newest port of the physical modeling  
software "tao"), that the old scripts only work when i create them  
using the old "simpletext" program in the classic environment. but my  
lilypond files won't open with simple text.


still at a bit of a loss.

thanks,
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Fwd: 2717 and up creates no pdf of old lys in macosx

2005-12-02 Thread Sean Reed
sorry if this has come up before, but i'm finding an unexplainable  
behavior with newer version of lilypond on macos 10.4.


i have several .ly files that i began around 2.7.7 or so, that are  
relatively long.
when i open them in any version up to 2.7.15 they compile fine and  
produce pdf output.


when i open them and try to compile them in any version from 2.7.17  
to .20, the console shows me that it interprets the music,  
preprocesses the graphical objects, calculates the line breaks, and  
then it hangs.


if there is an older pdf of the file created with an older version,  
it will open that file. if not, it will not create a new pdf.


i have tried using convert-ly to bring the files up to date, but it  
makes no difference (by the way, although the convert-ly version  
states 2.7.19, for example, the .ly file is still given a "2.7.15"  
version number... is that right?)


also, if i reenter the exact same info in a new .ly file, it compiles  
just fine.


shortening the original file to only a few lines (4 or 5) and saving  
it also brings no change.


any clues?

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Re: different notehead sizes in one chord

2005-12-02 Thread Sean Reed

hi mats and bert,

this would interest me as well.
i'll keep chewing my way through the apply-output first though.

thanks for the tip.
sean



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On 01.12.2005, at 20:16, Bertalan Fodor wrote:


Could an easier and faster way be sponsored?

Bert

Mats Bengtsson wrote:

See the example called apply-output.ly in the Regression Tests  
document.


  /Mats

Sean Reed wrote:


hi,

is it possible to have different notehead sizes within one chord?

i'm entering a berio score with lilypond in order to learn some  
of  the specific "modern"-notation abilities of lilypond, and he  
has  several chords in which the lowest three notes are normal  
sized and  the topmost note is considerably smaller, for example;  
or where the  middle two notes are normal sized and the outer  
notes are smaller.


i tried to enter a \once \override NoteHead #'font-size command   
within the chord, but got an error on compiling the score.


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best,
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different notehead sizes in one chord

2005-12-01 Thread Sean Reed

hi,

is it possible to have different notehead sizes within one chord?

i'm entering a berio score with lilypond in order to learn some of  
the specific "modern"-notation abilities of lilypond, and he has  
several chords in which the lowest three notes are normal sized and  
the topmost note is considerably smaller, for example; or where the  
middle two notes are normal sized and the outer notes are smaller.


i tried to enter a \once \override NoteHead #'font-size command  
within the chord, but got an error on compiling the score.


thanks,
best,
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Re: \stopStaff

2005-11-23 Thread Sean Reed

hi han-wen and mats,

thanks for the replies.
i thought it might be a bug.
it is otherwise a great feature. very helpful for modern scores.

looking forward to 2.7.19.

best,
sean



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On 23.11.2005, at 14:08, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Sean Reed wrote:

hi,
since i hadn't seen a reply to this yet, maybe i formulated the   
question unclearly.
\stopStaff doesn't seem to work for me at the very beginning of a   
piece. everywhere else later in the piece it seems to work fine.
when used at the beginning of the piece, only the lines of very  
first  note are hidden, no matter how long the passage is before  
the next  \startStaff is used.

is this a known problem, or am i using it wrong?


Hi,

thanks for reporting this. It's a bug, which I fixed for 2.7.19.

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\stopStaff

2005-11-23 Thread Sean Reed

hi,

since i hadn't seen a reply to this yet, maybe i formulated the  
question unclearly.


\stopStaff doesn't seem to work for me at the very beginning of a  
piece. everywhere else later in the piece it seems to work fine.


when used at the beginning of the piece, only the lines of very first  
note are hidden, no matter how long the passage is before the next  
\startStaff is used.


is this a known problem, or am i using it wrong?
sorry if i missed something in the archives where this was already  
mentioned.
i found nothing in the news or archives of the lists that seemed to  
address this specifically.


thanks again.
sean
(macos 10.4, ly 2.7.18-1)


% *
\version "2.7.18"

<<
\relative c' {
\stopStaff
	c16 d e f % no matter how long this passage is made, for example  
using \skip, the lines are only hidden for the first note

\startStaff
g f e d
\stopStaff
c d e f
\startStaff
g f e d
}
>>
% 


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stopStaff at beginning of staff

2005-11-20 Thread Sean Reed

hi,

first of all, thank you hans and ly programmers for this feature. it  
is fantastic.


however, somehow it isn't working the way i expect.
am i doing something wrong?
did i miss something in the news?

i'd like to have no staff lines in one instrument until a few  
measures into the piece, but no matter how long i make the first  
\skip, the first \stopStaff only leaves off the staff lines for the  
first 2 beats (more accurately: 1 beat plus the expected  1 beat of  
lead-in lines), and creates a bunch of empty measures with full staff  
lines after that.


there's a thread in the archives which may refer to the same thing,  
but i didn't see a real answer. the response was to look at the  
example in the documentation, but in the example in the documentation  
you don't notice it because the stopStaff is only told to be 2 beats  
anyway. if you take the example from the documentation and change the  
first \skip, which i've pretty much done in the script below, the  
same thing happens.


any help would be appreciated.

best,
sean
(osx 10.4, ly 2.7.17)
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% **
%  example:
% **
\version "2.7.17"

<<
  \new Staff \with
  {
\remove "Time_signature_engraver"
firstClef = ##f
  }
  \relative c'' {
\stopStaff
\skip 2*2

   \startStaff
\clef treble
bes8[ g bes g]
\stopStaff
   \skip 2

\startStaff
f8 d g4

\stopStaff
   \skip 2*2

\startStaff
f8 d g4
  }
  \new Staff  \relative
  {
\time 2/4
c4 c g' g a a g2 c4 c g' g a a g2
  }

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[OT] was: Re: lilypond fonts and inkscape

2005-11-09 Thread Sean Reed

btw:

this program (inkscape) looks excitingly promising as an alternative  
to illustrator, but unfortunately opening .ps files appears to still  
only be a working function on linux and not yet on osx!


does anyone know of a similar open source svg oriented program with  
which a person can, for example, make manual tweaks to postscript files?


best,
sean




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On 08.11.2005, at 02:37, Pedro Kröger wrote:


Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



You should be able to figure it out yourself, by looking at the PDF
original, or opening the XML view for the box in  inkscape.



thanks for the clue. I didn't knew any of this (this is the first time
I'm using inkscape).

It's definitely  related to the Aybabtu font. This is the char that is
not been shown:







I'll look further to see if there is something broke in my system.

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Re: Grob Direction error

2005-11-04 Thread Sean Reed

i've been getting this since 2.7.14 too. (macos 10.4.2)

has this been addressed further on the lists? (i found no reply to  
this mail).


here's an example of code that gives me this. it occurs as soon as i  
put in the tie.


best,
sean


\version "2.7.15"

eOrg = \relative c' {
\time 3/8
\clef treble

\tieDashed
8~\longfermata 4 |

}

<<
\new Staff \eOrg
>>



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On 28.10.2005, at 09:41, Neil Killeen wrote:


Hi

have just upgraded to 2.7.14 from 2.6.31 (Mac version).
I now get the rather drammatic error message

programming error: Grob direction requested while calculation in  
progress.


the output looks fine so I am wondering if this is a debug statement
in the development version ?

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footers and footer placement

2005-07-31 Thread Sean Reed

hi list,

i have a question concerning footers and footer placement.

my publisher has a specific standard for their scores, by which the  
copyright is to be on the first page in the bottom left hand corner.  
also on the first page, the work number is to be in the bottom right  
hand corner, on all consecutive pages, the work number is to be  
centered at the bottom of the page.


i found the "copyright" tag in the header section, but it centers the  
given text. is there a way to place it on the right?


is there then also a way to set separate placement of the work number  
once for the first page and then differently for all subsequent pages?


i would appreciate any tips.

ly 2.7.0-1 on mac 10.4.2

best,
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Re:

2005-07-28 Thread Sean Reed

sorry... forgot:

on osx 10.4.2 with ly 2.7.0-1

-sean

On 28.07.2005, at 18:36, Sean Reed wrote:


hi,

i changed the duration of a note in a score today and got this  
error and a file that failed to compile:


Layout output to `ariaTbAddVox1.ps'...
Converting to `ariaTbAddVox1.pdf'...sh: fork: Resource temporarily  
unavailable


`gs -q  -dSAFER  -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4  -sPAPERSIZE="a4" - 
dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite - 
sOutputFile="ariaTbAddVox1.pdf" -c .setpdfwrite -f  
"ariaTbAddVox1.ps"' failed (32768)



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[no subject]

2005-07-28 Thread Sean Reed

hi,

i changed the duration of a note in a score today and got this error  
and a file that failed to compile:


Layout output to `ariaTbAddVox1.ps'...
Converting to `ariaTbAddVox1.pdf'...sh: fork: Resource temporarily  
unavailable


`gs -q  -dSAFER  -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4  -sPAPERSIZE="a4" -dNOPAUSE  
-dBATCH -r1200  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile="ariaTbAddVox1.pdf" - 
c .setpdfwrite -f "ariaTbAddVox1.ps"' failed (32768)



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Fwd: macos X binary hangs

2005-06-11 Thread Sean Reed


(...i meant the 2.5.27 works perfectly. i never downloaded the 2.5.28)

-sean

On 11.06.2005, at 19:59, Sean Reed wrote:

is anyone else having trouble with the last two macos X binaries 
hanging?


on macos 10.3.9 the binaries for lilypond 2.5.29 and 2.5.30 just hang 
when i drag and drop something on the icon. they give me the little 
rotating wheel which never goes away.


the 2.5.28 binary works perfectly.

best,
sean


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macos X binary hangs

2005-06-11 Thread Sean Reed
is anyone else having trouble with the last two macos X binaries 
hanging?


on macos 10.3.9 the binaries for lilypond 2.5.29 and 2.5.30 just hang 
when i drag and drop something on the icon. they give me the little 
rotating wheel which never goes away.


the 2.5.28 binary works perfectly.

best,
sean


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Re: less than two visible stems

2005-06-02 Thread Sean Reed



I was wondering if it could be done automatically. I've tried


I don't know what's best. For a much larger portion of the music, it 
might be a valid warning. Ideas?
i can think of instances where a warning is valid, but the only ones 
that come to mind right off the bat are generally stylistic issues; for 
example, when beaming a 16th note to a dotted 8th rest in most common 
forms of classical music notation.


what other situations for valid warnings are there that i'm 
overlooking? this might clarify understanding of autoBeam and help find 
an idea for a creative approach to the issue (i'm sure you guys have 
thought these things through, especially being active instrumentalists 
yourselves).


i can beam the following with no warning about "less than two visible 
stems": a16[ r8 a16]. whereas a16[ r8.] gives me the warning.


if it is indeed primarily a style issue, perhaps a (set--style) 
function would be possible. there are various automatic accidental 
environments with different rules which are set with the 
(set-accidental-style) function.


would it be feasible to implement different automatic beaming 
environments? perhaps with an argument in the context part of the 
function to indicate which beat duration then gets checked for 
potential mistakes? for example, one could indicate # 
(set-automaticBeaming-style 'restInclusion #('quarters#)) [forgive me 
if that's senseless code!]. this would indicate, for example, that 
rests can be beamed to notes, even in groups of two (one rest, one 
note), and that automatic beaming is undertaken for every quarter note 
beat. this would perhaps also allow for zeroguy's desire to not have to 
manually place the square brackets all the time. one could also then 
choose #(set-automaticBeaming-style 'default), like with the accidental 
styles, which would then give the warnings we get now, and which would 
be default.


again, i have no understanding of the underlying programming involved, 
so forgive me if the implementation of such a suggestion would mean 
rewriting everything.


-sean

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Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de


using the autoBeam feature, but it doesn't seem to do it across rests.
Is there any option to turn on to allow this to happen automatically?
(As opposed to typing in the '['s all the time.)



No.

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less than two visible stems

2005-06-01 Thread Sean Reed
hi,

i have a question/request concerning the beaming of rests and notes.

my rhythms are often complex, so i like to make the notation easier for the musicians by beaming notes and rests together that occur in the same beat. this works in many scenarios in lilypond, but i get warnings in others.

when i beam, for example:
r8.[ a16] 
or: 
r16 [ a8.]
or: 
r8[ b8]

i get the notification:
warning: beam has less than two visible stems 

and the image is often incorrect. it often works if i do it in an isolated test, but not if there are several of these within an input file.

i'd like to be able to do this, since a series of r8. a16 rhythms interchanged with r16 a8. rhythms is often very difficult to read if the notes and rests are all single and floating. the musicians often draw their own lines into the score to orient themselves around the beats. 

is there a syntax which allows me to do this?
or could it be integrated?

thanks,
sean


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Fwd: Thick barline connections between staves

2005-05-28 Thread Sean Reed

hi ed, han-wen,

i mentioned this today as well, and have seen it since approx. 2.5.18 
or so.
stan sanderson also mentioned it in an email from 12.04.2005 with the 
subject "2.5.18 bar line thickness error(?)"


what stan and i have in common is macos 10.3.x.

ed: are you also on a mac?
is this maybe a mac-specific problem or is it also on other platforms?

for me, the image in the pdf viewer is thicker, but the printout is 
fine.


-sean


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On 27.05.2005, at 20:31, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Ed Baskerville wrote:

Hi all,
In all the examples for 2.5.26, the barline connection between staves 
 is thicker than the barline within the staff. Is this a known 
problem  that's being addressed? Should I just hold out for 2.6 
final?



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Re: Thick barline connections between staves

2005-05-27 Thread Sean Reed

hi ed, han-wen,

i mentioned this today as well, and have seen it since approx. 2.5.18 
or so.
stan sanderson also mentioned it in an email from 12.04.2005 with the 
subject "2.5.18 bar line thickness error(?)"


what stan and i have in common is macos 10.3.x.

ed: are you also on a mac?
is this maybe a mac-specific problem or is it also on other platforms?

for me, the image in the pdf viewer is thicker, but the printout is 
fine.


-sean


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On 27.05.2005, at 20:31, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Ed Baskerville wrote:

Hi all,
In all the examples for 2.5.26, the barline connection between staves 
 is thicker than the barline within the staff. Is this a known 
problem  that's being addressed? Should I just hold out for 2.6 
final?



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Re: LilyPond 2.5.26 released. Now with installers!

2005-05-27 Thread Sean Reed

hey!

very very excellent!
extremely excitingly well done!
2 quick bits of feedback (just in case they're not known yet):
1) the pdf point and click doesn't seem to take me to the exact spot in 
the script, but rather one note or object later.
2) the barlines between group staves are still doubly thick in all my 
pdf viewers (Preview, Adobe, Xpdf) but seem to print properly.


thanks for the advance!

best,
sean
(Mac OS 10.3, ly 2.5.26 binary)
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On 26.05.2005, at 11:31, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Dear all,

I'm uploading 2.5.26. This release has a couple of small bugfixes.
LilyPond 2.6.0 will be out Real Soon Now, so check if there are any 
critical problems left in this release.


If you're not on Linux, that's easiest done with our two new 
installers:



Windows
===
This is a native, standalone installer. It includes PDF point & click 
support, if you install a PDF viewer (like adobe acrobat) yourself.


  http://lilypond.org/mingw/setup.exe


MacOS X
===
It installs with drag & drop, and comes with ClickEdit, a simple 
editor for PDF point & click support.


  http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/MacOS/

It may be installed next to Fink's LilyPond.


These are both beta-releases. Expect to find a few rough edges.
If you find them, let us know at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks!

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Fwd: mac osx pdf point-and-click correction [was: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode]

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Reed
sorry...
a correction...
Begin forwarded message:
8) in a new xterm i then select emacs as the EDITOR using: export 
EDITOR="/sw/bin/emacs"

9) then i start firefox in a new xterm with /sw/bin/firefox
rather: i started firefox in the SAME xtem in which i performed the 
export EDITOR

best,
sean

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Re: mac osx pdf point-and-click [was: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode]

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Reed
hi arjan,
i double-checked this and it works now:
12) clicking on a note or other object now opens the corresponding 
lilypond file and takes me to A spot in the script. (it doesn't call 
emacs to the front though).

This final point is the tick, and may be where han-wen or somebody 
could add some advice. It takes me to the line and number as stated in 
the textedit:// hyperlink, but this is not the corresponding code for 
the given object.
i resaved the .ly-file i was using under a different name, reran 
lilypond on it and tried the point-and-click again and it worked 
perfectly. worked with all other files as well.

so, good news!
for some reason i have to run lilypond from the terminal.app, since 
running it from xterm gives me an error in converting from ps to pdf. 
something about ps2pdf papersize="a4" and something. but this is not 
such a bad thing.

best,
sean
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On 11.05.2005, at 20:16, Arjan Bos wrote:
On 10 mei 2005, at 9:18, Sean Reed wrote:
hi arjan,
thanks, that got me a useable LilyPond mode in emacs.
i still have to load it by hand with the M-x load-library, and i 
think it only works when i load the lilypond-init.el despite the 
"autoload" in the .emacs file, opening an .ly file doesn't 
automatically load the mode.
Strange, I copied the part straight from my .emacs file, and for me 
it works.

when i try to just load lilypond-mode and open an .ly file i get an 
error message: Wrong type argument: arryp, nil
This I get as well. I never took the time to really figure out why. I 
think I was put off by the strange way the syntax-table is organized.

if i M-x load-library  "lilypond-init.el", then C-x C-f a lilypond 
file, it loads in LilyPond mode, but gives me the error: Error in 
post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil), but the 
buffer is LilyPond mode, the lilypond menu is available, and it for 
all i can determine, it works.

the pdf point-and-click isn't working for me yet either.
i installed firefox and Xpdf, changed the firefox prefs.js to 
include the user_pref() statements for lilypond-pdfpc-helper 
textedit protocol, and added the urlCommand to the xpdfrc file. xpdf 
shows me the textedit:// link when i point at a note, but doesn't 
open the text editor.

i tried running lilypond-pdfpc-helper alone from terminal by 
manually entering a path to a file and a :line:character, and got 
the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/sw/bin/lilypond-pdfpc-helper", line 78, in ?
editor = os.environ['EDITOR']
  File "/sw/lib/python2.3/UserDict.py", line 19, in __getitem__
def __getitem__(self, key): return self.data[key]
KeyError: 'EDITOR'
You might have found the answer yourself already. What you need is to 
define an environment variable called "EDITOR" pointing to the editor 
you use. In the Terminal you start lilypond from you need to do:
 export EDITOR=/sw/bin/emacs
or some other editor of choice. This is for bash. I forgot the tcsh 
syntax. For convenience sake, you can put that export command in your 
.profile file.

is it possible that there is a different command necessary to 
determine the EDITOR for darwin? can i determine whether emacs or a 
given text editor is set as default for my darwin environment? or 
can i set that to emacs? or is textedit a protocol that isn't 
available on darwin? when i placed the hyperlink of a note from the 
pdf directly into the firefox address box i got the message that 
firefox didn't support the textedit protocol. is it possible that 
the macos firefox doesn't? sorry for all the questions.

btw: Bertalan: is there a LilyTool available or becoming available 
that will allow point-and-click with ly 2.5.23 in jEdit?

thanks for the assistance.
best,
sean
ps: thanks for the auctex tip.

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 09.05.2005, at 08:24, arjan.bos wrote:
Sean,
Did you put in your .emacs the code that links .ly files with 
lilypond-mode?
You can do this by adding:
;; lilypond
(autoload 'LilyPond-mode "lilypond-mode" "LilyPond Editing Mode" t)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.ly$" . LilyPond-mode))
(add-hook 'LilyPond-mode-hook (lambda () (turn-on-font-lock)))

Or, alternatively, you can use M-x load-library [ret] lilypond-mode
to load lilypond mode. This makes the lilypond functions available 
to emacs. You then are able to switch on lilypond mode by M-x 
LilyPond-mode. Please be aware that these names are case-sensitive.

HTH,
Arjan
Btw [ot] When starting with Latex in emacs, please consider auctex 
as an enhanced latex-mode. It helps with a lot of small things, 
like placing the correct environment with begin and end, changing 
fonts and things like that.

-Oorspronkelijk beric

Re: mac osx pdf point-and-click [was: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode]

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Reed
hi arjan,
this is my first real contribution to furthering knowledge on the list!
i've gotten the point-and-click to work on macos 10.3.9 with ly 2.5.23, 
but with a couple of ticks which you (or maybe han-wen or others?) 
could help me iron out.

the solution was to do everything in xwindows with x11 and not from the 
terminal.app (which you perhaps already knew?)

here's what i did:
1) i installed firefox from FINK to be run from an xterm in apple's x11.
2) i added the following lines to the prefs.js file in 
~HOME/.mozilla/firefox/vgftrus6.default/, with the full path to the 
lilypond-pdfpc-helper (not given on the lilypond website 
documentation):

user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.textedit", 
"/sw/bin/lilypond-pdfpc-helper");
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.warn-external.textedit", false);

3) i installed Xpdf using FINK
4) i added the following line to the xpdfrc file in /sw/etc/; again 
note the full path:

urlCommand "/sw/bin/firefox -remote 'openURL(%s)'"
5) i modified the editor search in the lilypond-pdfpc-helper binary in 
/sw/bin/ to read (again note the full path):

if ly_pc_editor == None:
	if  re.search ("emacs", editor):
		ly_pc_editor = '/sw/bin/emacsclient --no-wait +%(line)s:%(column)s 
%(file)s'

6) i then start apple's x11, and start /sw/bin/emacs from an xterm 
(this is one point where you may be able to help me: i can't figure out 
where to set the commands for the xterm so that i can just type "emacs" 
and have it automatically prepend the /sw/bin/)

7) you have to start the emacs server with M-x server-start
8) in a new xterm i then select emacs as the EDITOR using: export 
EDITOR="/sw/bin/emacs" (this is the next point you may be able to help 
me with. when i just enter "export" i see that, for example, the SHELL 
is set to bash etc., but no default for EDITOR. i can't seem to find 
the file to enter the EDITOR default, which is apparently, for example, 
the .profile file for the Terminal.app. I added export 
EDITOR="/sw/bin/emacs" to the bashrc file, but this didn't seem 
alleviate having to do it by hand in the xterm).

9) then i start firefox in a new xterm with /sw/bin/firefox
10) in another new xterm i start /sw/bin/xpdf
11) i load a pdf file made with ly2.5.23 into xpdf.
12) clicking on a note or other object now opens the corresponding 
lilypond file and takes me to A spot in the script. (it doesn't call 
emacs to the front though).

This final point is the tick, and may be where han-wen or somebody 
could add some advice. It takes me to the line and number as stated in 
the textedit:// hyperlink, but this is not the corresponding code for 
the given object. it is generally a line or two down. I checked to see 
if it had anything to do with lines which have been commented out, but 
it doesn't seem to. i'm wondering if it is different with a single 
voice lilypond file, but as yet have only tried it with multiple voice 
files.

In the hope that this may help you out a bit, and that we can find the 
last step in the chain to the correct position in the lilypond file!!

Best,
Sean
ps: my autoload still doesn't work for lilypond files in emacs, even in 
the xwindows environment. i'll keep trying to figure that out.


Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 11.05.2005, at 20:16, Arjan Bos wrote:
On 10 mei 2005, at 9:18, Sean Reed wrote:
hi arjan,
thanks, that got me a useable LilyPond mode in emacs.
i still have to load it by hand with the M-x load-library, and i 
think it only works when i load the lilypond-init.el despite the 
"autoload" in the .emacs file, opening an .ly file doesn't 
automatically load the mode.
Strange, I copied the part straight from my .emacs file, and for me it 
works.

when i try to just load lilypond-mode and open an .ly file i get an 
error message: Wrong type argument: arryp, nil
This I get as well. I never took the time to really figure out why. I 
think I was put off by the strange way the syntax-table is organized.

if i M-x load-library  "lilypond-init.el", then C-x C-f a lilypond 
file, it loads in LilyPond mode, but gives me the error: Error in 
post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil), but the buffer 
is LilyPond mode, the lilypond menu is available, and it for all i 
can determine, it works.

the pdf point-and-click isn't working for me yet either.
i installed firefox and Xpdf, changed the firefox prefs.js to include 
the user_pref() statements for lilypond-pdfpc-helper textedit 
protocol, and added the urlCommand to the xpdfrc file. xpdf shows me 
the textedit:// link when i point at a note, but doesn't open the 
text editor.

i tried running lilypond-pdfpc-helper alone from terminal by manually 
entering a path to a file and a :line:character, and got the 

Re: dynamics [was: Fwd: still wrong fonts]

2005-05-11 Thread Sean Reed
hi graham, robert,

i had this as well.
han-wen made the suggestion you'll find below which remedied it, although i believe it's intended to be a temporary work-around.

best,
sean
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Begin forwarded message:

From: Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25. April 2005 21:25:07 MESZ
To: Sean Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "lilypond-user's list" 
Subject: Re: still wrong fonts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Op ma, 25-04-2005 te 19:10 +0200, schreef Sean Reed:
hi,

i've installed 2.5.18, .19 and now .20 on macos 10.3.9 and still have 
problems with the fonts for the dynamics.

the only things which seem to be affected are the dynamic letters (ie, 
p, f, etc.).
they are the right letters, but look like a monaco or something.

Hi,

I'm onto it, but in the meantime, do this:

cd $HOME
mkdir .fonts
ln -s  /sw/share/lilypond/2.5.20/fonts/type1/feta-alphabet* .fonts



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mac osx pdf point-and-click [was: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode]

2005-05-10 Thread Sean Reed
hi arjan,
thanks, that got me a useable LilyPond mode in emacs.
i still have to load it by hand with the M-x load-library, and i think 
it only works when i load the lilypond-init.el despite the "autoload" 
in the .emacs file, opening an .ly file doesn't automatically load the 
mode.

when i try to just load lilypond-mode and open an .ly file i get an 
error message: Wrong type argument: arryp, nil

if i M-x load-library  "lilypond-init.el", then C-x C-f a lilypond 
file, it loads in LilyPond mode, but gives me the error: Error in 
post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil), but the buffer 
is LilyPond mode, the lilypond menu is available, and it for all i can 
determine, it works.

the pdf point-and-click isn't working for me yet either.
i installed firefox and Xpdf, changed the firefox prefs.js to include 
the user_pref() statements for lilypond-pdfpc-helper textedit protocol, 
and added the urlCommand to the xpdfrc file. xpdf shows me the 
textedit:// link when i point at a note, but doesn't open the text 
editor.

i tried running lilypond-pdfpc-helper alone from terminal by manually 
entering a path to a file and a :line:character, and got the following 
error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/sw/bin/lilypond-pdfpc-helper", line 78, in ?
editor = os.environ['EDITOR']
  File "/sw/lib/python2.3/UserDict.py", line 19, in __getitem__
def __getitem__(self, key): return self.data[key]
KeyError: 'EDITOR'
is it possible that there is a different command necessary to determine 
the EDITOR for darwin? can i determine whether emacs or a given text 
editor is set as default for my darwin environment? or can i set that 
to emacs? or is textedit a protocol that isn't available on darwin? 
when i placed the hyperlink of a note from the pdf directly into the 
firefox address box i got the message that firefox didn't support the 
textedit protocol. is it possible that the macos firefox doesn't? sorry 
for all the questions.

btw: Bertalan: is there a LilyTool available or becoming available that 
will allow point-and-click with ly 2.5.23 in jEdit?

thanks for the assistance.
best,
sean
ps: thanks for the auctex tip.

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 09.05.2005, at 08:24, arjan.bos wrote:
Sean,
Did you put in your .emacs the code that links .ly files with 
lilypond-mode?
You can do this by adding:
;; lilypond
(autoload 'LilyPond-mode "lilypond-mode" "LilyPond Editing Mode" t)
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.ly$" . LilyPond-mode))
(add-hook 'LilyPond-mode-hook (lambda () (turn-on-font-lock)))

Or, alternatively, you can use M-x load-library [ret] lilypond-mode
to load lilypond mode. This makes the lilypond functions available to 
emacs. You then are able to switch on lilypond mode by M-x 
LilyPond-mode. Please be aware that these names are case-sensitive.

HTH,
Arjan
Btw [ot] When starting with Latex in emacs, please consider auctex as 
an enhanced latex-mode. It helps with a lot of small things, like 
placing the correct environment with begin and end, changing fonts and 
things like that.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van:Sean Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden:  zo 8-5-2005 1:22
Aan:Arjan Bos
CC: lilypond-user's list
Onderwerp:  Re: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode
hi arjan,
thanks for the response.
i still must be doing something wrong, or not understanding something.
i created an .emacs file and added-to-list 'load-path the directories
/sw/etc/emacs21/site-start.d (where i have lilypond-init.el) and
/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp (where i have lilypond-mode.el, -indent.el,
-font-lock.el etc.). having quit and restarted the program, i used C-h
v load-path and saw that both directories were now indeed listed the
load-paths.
but M-x gave me no option for loading any lilypond-mode.
is that not how you load it?
could it be a version discrepancy? (installed emacs 21.3.50 via fink
today).
i am (pretty much) brand new (again) to emacs and went through the
whole tutorial with C-h t today. even if the point-and-click doesn't
work out, i would be interested in learning it a bit more, since i
would consider using it for latex documents and eventually for CLM at
some point again (which is where i used it bumbingly a couple of months
5 years ago for the first time).
thanks again for any tips.
best,
sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 07.05.2005, at 21:21, Arjan Bos wrote:
To create a .emacs file, simply start editing one. For example by:
 C-x C-f ~/.emacs
If you do:
C-h v load-path
it will show you the path emacs searches when it looks for files.
There are bound to be a whole lot of directories in them. Just put
your files in one of them. Alternatively, if you want to add a
directory to the 

Re: mac osx emacs lilypond-mode

2005-05-07 Thread Sean Reed
hi arjan,
thanks for the response.
i still must be doing something wrong, or not understanding something.
i created an .emacs file and added-to-list 'load-path the directories 
/sw/etc/emacs21/site-start.d (where i have lilypond-init.el) and 
/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp (where i have lilypond-mode.el, -indent.el, 
-font-lock.el etc.). having quit and restarted the program, i used C-h 
v load-path and saw that both directories were now indeed listed the 
load-paths.

but M-x gave me no option for loading any lilypond-mode.
is that not how you load it?
could it be a version discrepancy? (installed emacs 21.3.50 via fink 
today).

i am (pretty much) brand new (again) to emacs and went through the 
whole tutorial with C-h t today. even if the point-and-click doesn't 
work out, i would be interested in learning it a bit more, since i 
would consider using it for latex documents and eventually for CLM at 
some point again (which is where i used it bumbingly a couple of months 
5 years ago for the first time).

thanks again for any tips.
best,
sean
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On 07.05.2005, at 21:21, Arjan Bos wrote:
To create a .emacs file, simply start editing one. For example by:
 C-x C-f ~/.emacs
If you do:
C-h v load-path
it will show you the path emacs searches when it looks for files. 
There are bound to be a whole lot of directories in them. Just put 
your files in one of them. Alternatively, if you want to add a 
directory to the load-path, add the following to your .emacs file:
(add-to-list 'load-path "/sw/share/emacs/site-lisp" t)
Where /sw/share/emacs/site-lisp is the name of the directory you want 
to add to the load-path.

By the way, if you are new to emacs, it wouldn't do no harm to read 
the tutorial which you can access via the 'help' menu, or via C-h t 
(That is control-h t)

I never could get point-and-click to work on Mac OS X 10.3.n, not even 
when using X11 and xdvi and emacs via X11, so if it works for you I'd 
be delighted to know.

Hope this helps,
Arjan Bos
On 7 mei 2005, at 18:26, Sean Reed wrote:
might anyone have any hints on how to get the emacs lilypond-mode to 
work on macos 10.3.9?

i have been using jEdit very happily up to now, but the 
point-and-click function doesn't seem to be compatible with the two 
versions i have (2.5.23 and 2.5.0). it returns a bean shell error 
when i try to "enable point-and-click" and selecting "view output 
dvi" gives me an empty jDvi viewer.

the documentation for the new pdf hyperlink point-and-click addresses 
emacs and vim, so i thought i'd try emacs.

the installation documentation for lilypond-mode in emacs doesn't 
refer specifically to macos 10.x and i can't figure out where to put 
the .el files. i can find no .emacs file, and no matter which 
combination of where i place the lilypond-init.el and other .el files 
into the various /site-start and /site-lips folders i've found, when 
i start emacs and perform an M-x, i am offered no option for 
lilypond-mode. (i assume this is the correct procedure, since i can 
successfully select latex-mode this way and it functions fine).

i have made long attempts with the fink installation of emacs, 
XEmacs, enhanced carbon emacs, and emacs for aqua, but just ain't 
gettin' it.

i have installed firefox and Xpdf, as the documentation instructs, 
and modified the xpdfrc and prefs.js files. all three of my PDF 
viewers successfully identify the hyperlinks (Xpdf, Preview, and 
Acrobat Reader), but clicking on them does nothing.

thanks in advance for any clues.
best,
sean

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mac osx emacs lilypond-mode

2005-05-07 Thread Sean Reed
might anyone have any hints on how to get the emacs lilypond-mode to 
work on macos 10.3.9?

i have been using jEdit very happily up to now, but the point-and-click 
function doesn't seem to be compatible with the two versions i have 
(2.5.23 and 2.5.0). it returns a bean shell error when i try to "enable 
point-and-click" and selecting "view output dvi" gives me an empty jDvi 
viewer.

the documentation for the new pdf hyperlink point-and-click addresses 
emacs and vim, so i thought i'd try emacs.

the installation documentation for lilypond-mode in emacs doesn't refer 
specifically to macos 10.x and i can't figure out where to put the .el 
files. i can find no .emacs file, and no matter which combination of 
where i place the lilypond-init.el and other .el files into the various 
/site-start and /site-lips folders i've found, when i start emacs and 
perform an M-x, i am offered no option for lilypond-mode. (i assume 
this is the correct procedure, since i can successfully select 
latex-mode this way and it functions fine).

i have made long attempts with the fink installation of emacs, XEmacs, 
enhanced carbon emacs, and emacs for aqua, but just ain't gettin' it.

i have installed firefox and Xpdf, as the documentation instructs, and 
modified the xpdfrc and prefs.js files. all three of my PDF viewers 
successfully identify the hyperlinks (Xpdf, Preview, and Acrobat 
Reader), but clicking on them does nothing.

thanks in advance for any clues.
best,
sean

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Re: non-markup stencils

2005-05-04 Thread Sean Reed
hi jonatan and han-wen,
works just right.
is the language for the definitions scheme? is the syntax 
lilypond-specific? where would i look to learn a bit on my own about 
the syntax and structure of such definitions and its integration into 
lilypond? (is it in the documentation on the lilypond website?)

thanks!
-sean

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On 02.05.2005, at 05:13, Jonatan Liljedahl wrote:
There was someone who requested a cross on the stems a while ago, and I
posted something which might be what your want. Try this:
%%% tested with 2.5.18 %%%
#(define (cross-callback callback)
   (define (cross-stencil grob)
 (let* ((cross (ly:font-get-glyph
  (ly:get-default-font grob) "noteheads.s2cross"))
(s (callback grob))
(sx (ly:stencil-extent s 0))
(sy (ly:stencil-extent s 1))
(cx (ly:stencil-extent cross 0))
(xadj (/ (interval-length cx) 2))
(midy (+ (car sy) (/ (interval-length sy) 2
(set! s (ly:stencil-add s
(ly:stencil-translate cross (cons (- xadj) midy
   (ly:make-stencil (ly:stencil-expr s) sx sy)))
   cross-stencil)
stemCrossStart = \override Stem  #'print-function
= #(cross-callback Stem::print)
stemCrossStop = \revert Stem #'print-function


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non-markup stencils

2005-05-01 Thread Sean Reed
thanks again han-wen, mats, donald axel, jonatan, and fairchild for the help with the bartok pizz. it opened my eyes a bit to the flexibility of self-programmed extensions, specifically for extended performance techniques.

i am now attempting to put a little cross on the stems of notes for passages or pitches which are to be performed battuto (strings) or with "slap" articulations for winds.

i attempted to modify your examples with the attached patch (see below), but the crosses always remain at a static x-y coordinate. i assume this is because i defined it as a markup command. is there a way to define a stencil (forgive me if it's incorrect terminology) that would place a cross in the note's corresponding stem while automatically modifying the y-coordinate so as to position it in the middle of that given stem (see attached example)?

thanks for your help.

best,
sean

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*
\version "2.5.20"

#(def-markup-command (battuto layout props) ()
(interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
(ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add 
(ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0.0 -4.0 1.0 -3.0)
'(-0.2 . 0.2) '(0.2 . 2)
)
(ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0.0 -3.0 1.0 -4.0)
'(-0.2 . 0.2) '(0.2 . 2)
)
)
0.7 X
)
)
)
)

battuto = ^\markup \battuto

STUFF = {
\relative c' {
c4\battuto d\battuto e\battuto f\battuto 
}%end relative
}%end STUFF




\score{
\STUFF
}%end score
**

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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

2005-04-26 Thread Sean Reed
i tried han-wen:donald axel script today with 2.5.20 and macos 10.3.9 
and got the following error:

$ lilypond bp4.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.5.20
Processing `bp4.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [3]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... bp4.ly:4:11: In expression 
(make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1):
bp4.ly:4:11: Wrong number of arguments to #

jonatan's suggestion worked nicely and centered the circle above the 
note as well. thanks!

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On 26.04.2005, at 22:41, Jonatan Liljedahl wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:10:49 +0200
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Op zo, 24-04-2005 te 23:48 -0300, schreef Jonatan Liljedahl:
have i overlooked something?
is there a markup or workaround for this?
This is how I do it, put this in your .ly file:
%
#(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )
)
0.7 X
  )
)
  )
this  is rather involved. You could also do
#(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )))
Oh, I see! No need to go trough the markup interpretation since markup
commands should return a stencil.
Beware though that without ly:stencil-translate-axis, the symbol will
not be centered above the note but centered around the the left edge of
the note, it seems... is there a way to (in the scheme above) make sure
the stencil is centered above the note/chord that the markup is 
attached
to?

/Jonatan-=( http://kymatica.com )=-
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Re: still wrong fonts

2005-04-26 Thread Sean Reed
hi han-wen,
that did the trick.
thanks!
-sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 25.04.2005, at 21:25, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Hi,
I'm onto it, but in the meantime, do this:
  cd $HOME
  mkdir .fonts
  ln -s  /sw/share/lilypond/2.5.20/fonts/type1/feta-alphabet* .fonts

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still wrong fonts

2005-04-25 Thread Sean Reed
hi,
i've installed 2.5.18, .19 and now .20 on macos 10.3.9 and still have 
problems with the fonts for the dynamics.

the only things which seem to be affected are the dynamic letters (ie, 
p, f, etc.).
they are the right letters, but look like a monaco or something.

the installation of 2.5.18 failed on me a couple of times, and i 
removed the lilypond with fink in order to get it to complete.

is it possible that there is a wrong link to the dynamic font scripts 
somewhere that i can locate and correct? or is there a way to reinstall 
the fonts only, or the links to them?

everything else looks completely fine.
thanks,
best,
sean

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Re: snap (bartok) pizz

2005-04-25 Thread Sean Reed
hi mats,
On 25.04.2005, at 10:18, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Please, Sean always tell what version of LilyPond you are using and
please Jonatan, always tell what version of LilyPond the solution
works with.
yeah, sorry. i usually do that. slipped my mind this time.
To avoid confusion, I can tell you both that the function
make-circle-stencil was introduced in version 2.5.19 and is
not available in any stable version (which probably is what
Sean has installed).
i've got 2.5.0 on one machine and 2.5.19 on the other.
thanks for the tip.
sean

   /Mats
Jonatan Liljedahl wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:23:52 +0200
Sean Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i've not been able to find an articulation symbol to indicate a snap
or "bartok" pizz. (see attached graphic)
have i overlooked something?
is there a markup or workaround for this?
This is how I do it, put this in your .ly file:
%
#(def-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )
)
0.7 X
  )
)
  )
)
bartok = ^\markup \bartokpizz

And then just prepend \bartok to the notes that should have bartok
pizzicatto.
/Jonatan-=( http://kymatica.com )=-
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snap (bartok) pizz

2005-04-24 Thread Sean Reed
i've not been able to find an articulation symbol to indicate a snap or 
"bartok" pizz. (see attached graphic)

have i overlooked something?
is there a markup or workaround for this?
thanks,
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Re: wrong font

2005-04-15 Thread Sean Reed
On Apr 13, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Sean Reed wrote:
hi,
i managed to install 2.5.18 on macos 10.3.8 today but the font for 
the dynamics is wrong (looks like just a large typical monaco or 
something).

any suggestions what i missed or how i can reinstall it?
thanks,
sean
Sean-
I found other appearance problems with 2.5.18 (Mac OS 10.3.8) which I 
reported a few days ago. Specifically, bar lines between staves were 
thicker than within staves. As a result, I reverted to 2.5.17 and have 
had no problems.

I still have 2.5.18 installed on another machine (same OS) and don't 
see any problem with the dynamics font.

Did you install from through Fink?
Stan

hi stan,
i didn't notice bar line thickness problems or anything else right off 
the bat, just the forte and piano symbols were big typewriter letters.

i did install with fink, and the installation exited a few times with 
errors before i could even get it to begin the lilypond package.

one problem was a header conflict in multiple freetypes, the solution 
to which i found on the fink FAQ.

i also had to remove and reinstall the tetex-base before the 
installation of the lilypond package would complete without an exit 
error.

this made me think that maybe some dependency necessary for the fonts 
got installed wrong or incorrectly, that i could just remove and 
reinstall.

but i understand little of these things!
i'll try 2.5.17 again. thanks for the tip.
(btw: i test the unstables and devels on a separate machine too to see 
if they are functional for the work i've done with lilypond so far, so 
this is not a catastrophe in any way).

best,
sean

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wrong font

2005-04-13 Thread Sean Reed
hi,
i managed to install 2.5.18 on macos 10.3.8 today but the font for the 
dynamics is wrong (looks like just a large typical monaco or 
something).

any suggestions what i missed or how i can reinstall it?
thanks,
sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de

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Re: Simple OS X Lily previewer in the works (was getting Lily/mftrace on MacOSX)

2005-03-14 Thread Sean Reed
hi ed,
(1) Would use use this application? (Feel free to just email me 
directly.)
i would certainly try it out. i use texshop for my latex texts and like 
it very much. i currently use jEdit for lilypond, and by the way don't 
find it slow at all, as opposed to an issue which was on the list 
recently.

(2) Any other key features you'd like to see?
point and click.
(3) Echoing Han-Wen's inquiry about a binary distribution: what would 
be a reasonable price?
firstly, i am very grateful for the work that goes into valuable 
creations, and feel that nobody should work for nothing. however, as an 
experimental composer, i often find myself working for little to 
nothing.

the "reasonable price" is an odd issue for me and i didn't put in my 
two cents to that discussion on the list recently either. but: i find 
the concept of "reasonable" when it comes to software like this 
undefinable. in my opinion, lilypond's output is far superior to finale 
and sibelius, which both go for 700 to 800 euros (i live in germany), 
and its flexibility is great and growing. so based on that, you could 
justify selling a self-installing lilypond binary for the same amount 
or more. however, i consider 700 and 800 euros for this software to be 
an unreasonable price, and even if somebody were to explain to me why 
it is reasonable, i certainly could not afford to invest in those 
programs or their updates or their "os x" compatible versions anyway.

i am a professional composer for contemporary art music and computer 
generated and interactive art music (i hate that term, but am only 
attempting to point out that i have professional standards but no money 
or potential for commercial use of my works when they are finished) and 
use two other pieces of software which are among the international 
standards for "art" computer composition and the leading and cutting 
edge for professional sound quality, namely supercollider and csound. 
these programmes are constantly under development and there are 
binaries for several platforms. both of these programmes are open(ish) 
source and free of charge in both their binary and source forms. this 
is something which i, as an artist who is regularly involved in 
experimental projects with limited budgets that often exclude my own 
payment and have no "resale" value, am very very appreciative of.

this doesn't answer the question directly, and by no means would i ever 
want to suggest that anybody invest blood sweat and tears to develop 
something for me with no reimbursement, but it does imply that if there 
were a way to keep the program free of fee, i for one would be very 
grateful.

best,
sean

Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de
On 13.03.2005, at 23:41, Ed Baskerville wrote:
Hi all,
I've just started work on a simple LilyPond previewer for OS X. It 
will be similar to TeXShop, but simpler--at the expense, perhaps, of 
flexibility. The application will be a simple LilyPond text editor 
with indent balancing, parenthesis balancing, and code completion and 
"almost live" PDF previewing--a straightforward, one-trick pony.

I was mostly silent about this because I hadn't actually written any 
code until Thursday. Now that I have some basic functionality, I 
thought I'd gauge interest. I'll try to have a test version available 
soon, probably without syntax coloring or code completion.

A few questions for you all:
(1) Would use use this application? (Feel free to just email me 
directly.)
(2) Any other key features you'd like to see?
(3) Echoing Han-Wen's inquiry about a binary distribution: what would 
be a reasonable price?

--Ed
On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
Thank you!
Now LilyPond is compiling.
Soon I'll be able to see if using LilyPond inside TeXShop is doable
and interesting.
nicolas

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shapeNoteStyles

2005-01-07 Thread Sean Reed
hi,
using the \set shapeNoteStyles and the \aikenHeads \sacredHarpHeads 
give me errors and warnings, even when using the examples from the 
documentation with 2.5.0 and MacOsX 10.3.7.
is this not yet functional?

i get
error: unknown escaped string: `\aikenHeads'
and with the cross:
Interpreting music...
warning: Can't find property type-check for `shapeNoteStyles' 
(translation-type?).
Perhaps you made a typing error?
warning: Doing assignment anyway.

i would like to replace the note head of a few singular notes with a 
cross for a different performance technique (slap etc. on a bass).

btw: is there a standard notation already in place in lilypond for 
"bartok" pizzes? (circle with a half of a line through it). i couldn't 
seem to find it right off.

thanks,
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Re: Spam [was: Fwd: Meta-topic: Spam filtering and bounced messages]

2004-11-20 Thread Sean Reed
On 21.11.2004, at 00:19, Erik Sandberg wrote:
On Saturday 20 November 2004 23.42, Graham Percival wrote:
On 20-Nov-04, at 2:10 PM, Sean Reed wrote:
hi graham,
is it possible to ask a question without being subscribed to the 
list?
Of course.  We CC all replies to the questioner and the mailing list.
i gotcha. looking at the mails i see that now too.
ok. i'll try to keep beefing up my filters here then.
and thanks, aaron, for the offer to moderate non-member posts!
that would be a very appreciated great help as well.
best,
sean

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Re: Spam [was: Fwd: Meta-topic: Spam filtering and bounced messages]

2004-11-20 Thread Sean Reed
hi graham,
is it possible to ask a question without being subscribed to the list?
don't you have to be subscribed to receive mails from the list if you 
want to be able to receive an answer?
maybe i don't get it.

- sean
On 20.11.2004, at 22:12, Graham Percival wrote:
On 20-Nov-04, at 3:54 AM, Sean Reed wrote:
i subscribe to a number of lists which only allow subscribers to post.
would the list managers consider adding this function to the lilypond 
users list?
It has been considered in the past, but rejected: we want it to be
easy to post to lily-users.  Asking confused new users to subscribe
to the mailing list before asking questions could sufficiently
deter some people that they simply give up on Lilypond.
Cheers,
- Graham

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Spam [was: Fwd: Meta-topic: Spam filtering and bounced messages]

2004-11-20 Thread Sean Reed
i subscribe to a number of lists which only allow subscribers to post.
would the list managers consider adding this function to the lilypond users list?
i'm getting a lot of spam, nearly all from this list, and my filters aren't catching it all despite regular retraining and adding of keywords.

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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14. November 2004 23:14:19 MEZ
To: Patrick Hubers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Meta-topic: Spam filtering and bounced messages
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick Hubers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Except, to the best of my knowledge, "bounce" means that *I* send a DSN  back to the original sender, and "reject" means that the relay is honour-bound to send a DSN back to the original sender.
The only practical difference is who sends the DSN. And as I said, in my  case (because "download and drop" is not a practical option) there is no  way I can suppress the sending of the DSN.


This is getting *very* off topic, but:

As David R. Linn said, bounce and reject are *not* the same. Rejecting means that the receiving SMTP-server refuses to accept the message at all (return a 550 response), meaning the sending SMTP-server can't deliver the message at all. Bouncing means that the receiving server *does* accept the message, but then sends a message back to the *email address* in the message envelope, which may have nothing to do with the actual sender.

In which case, I *A*M* rejecting, and yet I still get this message saying I've been suspended.

When I configure my reject rules, my mail "client" sends a 550 back to the relay. I presume that my ISP's mail server is doing the same. The problem is, if it's come from the sender's ISP's relay servers, I bet the effect is the same as what you call a bounce.

But - to put it simply - I *know* I'd doing what you call rejecting, I send a 550, and it still gets me dropped from the list.

Cheers,
Wol
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date of composition

2004-10-01 Thread Sean Reed
is there a header for the date of composition?
i looked in the documentation but found only one for the not the dates 
for the composer's lifetime within the mutopia project.

Breitkopf and Haertel, for example, seem to often put it on the right 
side, underneath the composer's name, in a much smaller print than the 
title or subtitle. Henle puts it in the middle, but also in a much 
smaller print than the subtitle or dedication.

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Re: modern accidental style

2004-09-26 Thread Sean Reed
the description of 'modern-cautionary' in the documentation looks like 
it may be what i want, but:

- the output doesn't seem to do what i think the description suggests: 
the cautionary accidentals only appear in the next measure, not in the 
same measure, and

- when i use it, lilypond only creates the first 7 pages of my 17-page 
score (bug? could this have something to do with the bezier error i'm 
also getting?)

i just noticed the missing pages now. same happens with 
'modern-voice-cautionary'.

-sean


On 26.09.2004, at 02:26, Graham Percival wrote:
On 25-Sep-04, at 5:12 PM, Sean Reed wrote:
looking at the documentation, it would seem that they may have been 
"fixed" and are "correct" now (accidentals are now remembered to the 
end of the measure), but to be honest i really liked the other way 
better, even if it was a mistake.
Wouldn't one of the other accidental styles suit you just as well?  I 
can't remember them all offhand, but have a look through the page to 
see if there's another style that does what you want.

Cheers,
- Graham

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modern accidental style

2004-09-25 Thread Sean Reed
first, thank you so much for bringing back the dvis. point-and-click 
with jedit works again and it is truly a beneficial feature!

i think i've noticed a change in the accidentals though. i have been 
using "modern" the whole time, and now i think the accidentals are 
different suddenly with 2.3.18.

looking at the documentation, it would seem that they may have been 
"fixed" and are "correct" now (accidentals are now remembered to the 
end of the measure), but to be honest i really liked the other way 
better, even if it was a mistake.

up until 2.3.18 i was getting like a "forget-cautionary" when i had 
chosen the "modern" style, where every chromatically altered pitch 
(i.e. sharp or flat) was given an accidental; even if there were 6 
d-sharps in a row in the same measure, they all got an accidental, but 
when the pitch then changed from d-sharp to d-natural, there was one 
initial "natural" sign, and then no more accidentals. this is very 
effective for atonal scores with lots of fast notes in each measure 
where the accidentals are sometimes different, sometimes not.

is this a feature that is available somehow else that i could 
reimplement into my score? if not, could it get built back in somehow? 
(i've got two musicians already learning the first half of a score with 
the former accidental practice, and i would like to not have switched 
the modus operandi in the middle of the score when i give them the 
second half, for their sake too).

thanks,
- sean

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bezier intersection error

2004-09-25 Thread Sean Reed
i am receiving the following message in my terminal output when running 
2.3.18 on mac 10.3.5:

programming error: No solution found for Bezier intersection.
Continuing; crossing fingers
should i isolate some code and send it to the buglist?
thanks,
- sean

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lilypond in a latex document

2004-09-24 Thread Sean Reed
hi,

i'm working on an essay in which i would like to include small motives directly in a sentence of the text without starting a new line and centering the musical fragment. is there a way to do this using lilypond? 

i can do this using an eps or other image file, by including the "\usepackage{graphicx}" and placing "\includegraphics" right in the line of text with no "\begin{figure}" and "\end{figure}". the sentences flow right on and the little motive gets included in the sentence like a word.

The examples in the lilypond documentation on lilypond-book using "\begin{lilypond}" work well, but always force a new line (and center?) making it like a full-fledged example. is there a way to do it without starting the new line? 

btw: when using the "short version" of syntax from the lilypond-book documentation ("\lilypond[staffsize=11]{}"), i get an error when running latex, saying that "\lilypond" is an undefinded control sequence. 

this is all happening with mac os 10.3.5, using lilypond 2.3.16. i'm also using TeXShop v1.35 to edit the latex and command line to run lilypond-book.

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no more dvi?

2004-09-17 Thread Sean Reed
with lilypond 2.3.16 on mac os 10.3.5, there seems to be no .dvi output.
i receive the message
warning: lily-guile: Can not generate DVI via the postscript back-end
is this a known issue? am i doing something wrong?
i have seen the request for tetex bugfix testers and the guile 1.6 vs 
1.7 discussion on the list, but wasn't sure if it was relevant.

i have been excitedly editing my scores using jedit42 with the jdvi 
viewer and the point-and-click function since libero and bertalan got 
it up and running (thanks!), and would love to have the dvis to 
continue doing so.

thanks,
sean
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programming error

2004-09-06 Thread Sean Reed
with lilypond 2.3.13 on mac os 10.3.5 i'm getting the following message:
programming error: Improbable offset for translation: setting to zero
Continuing; crossing fingers
is it something i should pay attention to? is it something i've typed 
wrong in my lilypond file? the pdf still get made and looks ok to me.

-sean
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two versions of lilypond on same machine

2004-09-02 Thread Sean Reed
hi.
might anyone have a suggestion as to how to install two separate 
versions of lilypond (the current stable and the current unstable) on 
the same machine, and then be able to decide which version to run?

i would like to keep a copy of the newest stable and the newest 
unstable versions on my computer, so that i can follow and try out and 
contribute to the development of the unstable updates, while still 
being sure that if a change in an unstable update somehow negatively 
alters the output of my page that i can go compile my page using the 
current stable, without having to uninstall the current unstable and 
reinstall the current stable versions.

i'm on a mac with OS 10.3.5, and have been using fink to install 
lilypond, but can switch to a manual install from sources if need be.

thanks for any hints,
sean
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beaming beats over rests

2004-08-28 Thread Sean Reed
on: lilypond 2.2.5, macos 10.3.5
is there a way to consistently put beams over rests within the same 
beat without getting a *warning: beam has less than two visible stems*?

i often write very complicated rhythms with many rests of different 
durations and many very short rhythms, and i and many instrumentalists 
find it easier to count the music when the beats are grouped together 
by beams which include the rests.

putting rests under beams seems to consistently work for more than two 
visible stems, for example: c16[ r8 c16], or c16[ d e r],

but not, for example, for c16[ r8.] or r8[ c8] or r8[ c16 r16].
with rhythms such as these i get the above warning (*less than two 
stems*).
sometimes the image on the page looks right despite the warnings,

but very often i get a crash with these errors:
../flower/include/array.hh:149: failed assertion `i >=0&&i
lilypond: error: LilyPond crashed (signal 6).
lilypond: error: Please submit a bug report to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilypond: warning: Running LilyPond failed. Rerun with --verbose for a 
trace.

am i using incorrect syntax?
is there a workaround?
thanks,
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grace note midi output

2004-07-02 Thread Sean Reed
hi,
another midi question. i've checked the list archives but found no info 
on the following:

the midi output of my grace note groups is not accurate, although the 
paper output is. within the midi, a segment of the duration of grace 
note groups is being added into the playback actual time, resulting in 
an offset of the voice within the midi file. ie: a 4-tone grace note 
gesture within one voice of a score will result in that voice being off 
by a 16th or more in the midi playback.

is this a known issue? any hints? thanks.
best,
sean
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---
i'm using mac os 10.3.4 and lilypond 2.2.3
here are examples:
this creates the correct paper and midi output:
notes1 = \notes {
\relative c'' {
\time 4/4
\clef violin
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin"
c8 \grace b16 d8 e4 f8 g8 a4 |
\grace b16 c,8 d8 e4 f g8 \grace b16 a8 |
r1 |
c,4 d e f |
}
}
notes2 = \notes {
\relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand"
c4 c c c
c c c c
r1
c4 c c c
}
}
\score {
<<
\time 4/4
\new Staff <<
\notes1 >>
\new Staff <<
\notes2 >>
>>
\midi { \tempo 4 = 60 }
\paper {}
}
this does not:
notes1 = \notes {
\relative c'' {
\time 4/4
\clef violin
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin"
c4 \grace {b16[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 |
\grace b16 c,8 d4 e4 f8 g8 \grace b16 a8 |
r1 |
c,4 d4 e4 f4 |
}
}
notes2 = \notes {
\relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand"
c4 c c c
c c c c
r1
c4 c c c
}
}
\score {
<<
\time 4/4
\new Staff <<
\notes1 >>
\new Staff <<
\notes2 >>
>>
\midi { \tempo 4 = 60 }
\paper {}
}
reducing the grace note duration value to 32nds remedies the problem in 
the last example
(ie, line 6 becomes: c4 \grace {b32[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 |)

but no change of the grace note duration values provides a remedy in 
this example:
notes1 = \notes {
	\relative c'' {
		\time 4/4
		\clef violin
		\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin"
		c,4 d8 e8 \grace {b64[ c d e]} f8 g8 a8 b8 |
		c,8 d8 e8 f8 \grace b16 g8 a8 b4 |
		r1 |
		c,4 d4 e4 \grace b16 f'8 g8 |
	}
}

notes2 = \notes {
\relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand"
c4 c c c
c c c c
r1
c4 c c c
}
}
\score {
<<
\time 4/4
\new Staff <<
\notes1 >>
\new Staff <<
\notes2 >>
>>
\midi { \tempo 4 = 60 }
\paper {}
}
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Re: midi output osx

2004-06-30 Thread Sean Reed
hi daveA and Graham,
thanks for the tips. will oram has sent me a copy of mighty midi and 
specific instructions on getting timidity up and running.

also, is this a mac specific problem? is there a fix in the works?
IIRC, there was some discussion about whether tempo changes belonged 
in track 0,
or whether they should be placed in all tracks.
yeah, i'd read this too. i'll be looking forward to revisions there, so 
that reviewing my complicated notation by ear is a bit easier. until 
then the notation side is fantastic enough to comprise with a work 
around.

thanks again.
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midi output osx

2004-06-27 Thread Sean Reed
hi,
i'm new to the list and relatively new to lilypond.
i am very impressed with and pleased by its flexibility and the great 
quality of its appearance.
i am using mac os 10.3.4 and lilypond 2.2.3.

the tempo of the midi output from my files does not seem to be 
controllable with the "\tempo" command. no edits to the code effect the 
output whatsoever, which is always somewhere around quarter = 120.

i found this issue discussed in the archive list from may 5 to 8 2004, 
with the suggested workaround of using the program "mighty midi", but 
all of the links to "mighty midi" and its author have apparently since 
then become obsolete and the program has simply disappeared without a 
trace from the internet.

any further hints on other workarounds? or perhaps any other free/open 
midi players with adjustable tempo for mac os x that somebody can 
recommend? or does perhaps somebody have a copy of the "mighty midi" 
program that they can mail me? (all the links suggest it's only around 
170k).

also, is this a mac specific problem? is there a fix in the works?
thanks.
best,
sean reed
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