lyric-ties within a word (spacing/hyphenation issue)

2007-10-07 Thread Monk Panteleimon

Hello, Lilypond list.

I would like to use lyric ties on syllables within a single word,
without the syllables looking -- for the presence of hyphen-less space 
-- like two short words.

The problem is that there seems to be a minimum amount of space between
the syllables that are tied, and it doesn't seem affected by LyricSpace.
Nor can one put hyphens between tied syllables, e.g [ hy~ -- phen ]. So, 
they look like

separate words.
Behold:


\version "2.10"

% Of course, I could just do this:
\score { \relative c''
  { c b }
  \addlyrics
  { plen- -- teous }
\layout{ ragged-right = ##t }
}

% But I'd rather combine this:
\score { \relative c''
  { c b }
  \addlyrics
  { plen- -- te~ous }
\layout{ ragged-right = ##t }
}

%with  something like this:
% (I've used a middle-dot here, which I think works better than a hyphen 
in this case.)

\score { \relative c''
  { c b }
  \addlyrics
  { plen- -- te·ous }
\layout{ ragged-right = ##t }
}

%But that makes this (even without any LyricSpace):
\score { \relative c''
  { c b }
  \addlyrics
  { plen- -- \override LyricSpace #'minimum-distance = #0  te~·ous }
\layout{ ragged-right = ##t }
}
%%%

My intention, btw, is that these syllables should be less articulated 
than if they had each an 8th note,

but slightly more than if we simply pronounced them "tyus".
Thank you very much for lilypond and all of the assistance I have 
received from this list.

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Re: Lyric Ties (desperate)

2007-04-27 Thread Graham Percival

Thanks, I've added this info to the INSTALL.

Cheers,
- Graham

Aaron Dalton wrote:

Thank you, Jose!  With this information and some Googling I've finally
resolved the issue.  For the record, here's what I had to do for the
FreeBSD package (and I assume it's similar for the other *nix's).

1) Install the x11-fonts/dejavu port.  This should install the fonts
somewhere like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu.

2) Open the file LILYPONDBASE/usr/etc/fonts/local.conf and add the
following line just after the '' line.  (Adjust as necessary
for your hierarchy.)
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts

All your system fonts should now be accessible!



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Re: Lyric Ties (desperate)

2007-04-03 Thread Aaron Dalton
José Luis Cruz wrote:
> Here is the page for downloading the fonts:
> http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download
> 
> If you have windows, this is the direct linc to the ttf's on a zip:
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dejavu/dejavu-ttf-2.16.zip?download
> 
> 
> I extracted the fonts to the c:\windows\fonts folder (where all the
> fonts are located), and lilypond were able to use them without
> touching anything. I don't know if it'll be as easy for you.
> 

Thank you, Jose!  With this information and some Googling I've finally
resolved the issue.  For the record, here's what I had to do for the
FreeBSD package (and I assume it's similar for the other *nix's).

1) Install the x11-fonts/dejavu port.  This should install the fonts
somewhere like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu.

2) Open the file LILYPONDBASE/usr/etc/fonts/local.conf and add the
following line just after the '' line.  (Adjust as necessary
for your hierarchy.)
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts

All your system fonts should now be accessible!  Do a 'lilypond
-dshow-available-fonts any' to be sure.  Below is the updated snippet
that now displays the lyric tie as it should:

\version "2.10.0"
\paper {
   #(set-default-paper-size "letter")
   #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree "DejaVu Serif"
"DejaVu Sans"
"DejaVu Sans Mono"
   (/ 16 20)))
}

\relative c'{ \time 4/4 r4 f4 e d | c2 c | }
\addlyrics
{ Buon gior -- no~al mon -- do. }


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Re: Lyric Ties (desperate)

2007-04-02 Thread Aaron Dalton
Aaron Dalton wrote:
> I am preparing a series of typeset manuscripts for both formal
> publication and my thesis.  I cannot do this until I figure out how to
> typeset lyric ties (http://huge-url/#Entering-lyrics).  The problem, as
> the documentation states, is that you need a font that correctly encodes
> U+203F.  What the documentation does not tell me is the following:
> 
> 1) Is there a font included in the Lilypond package that does include
> this character?
> 
> 2) If not, where exactly can I obtain such a font (such as the stated
> DejaVuLGC), or how would I even begin a hunt for such a font?
> 
> 3) Once found, how do I install this font in the Lilypond hierarchy so
> that it is detected by the binary?
> 
> 4) And finally, how to I tell Lilypond to use a particular font for all
> lyrics in an .ly file?
> 
> The list archives simply turn up an exchange a long time back where
> PersonX asked the question, PersonY told him to install DejaVuLGC, and
> PersonX then said, Thanks!  I've tried to contact PersonX and PersonY
> but have not received responses or bounce messages.  I am desperate to
> get this working.  I do *not* want to re-typeset all this music in some
> lame-trash software like Finale.
> 
> I am indeed using v2.10.x.  I normally use the FreeBSD package but also
> use it on Windows.  (My Cygwin install segfaults though, btw.)  I
> sincerely appreciate any guidance anyone can give me in solving this
> problem.
> 
> Many thanks,

Here's a snippet to work with.

\version "2.10.0"
\relative c'{ \time 4/4 r4 f4 e d | c2 c | }
\addlyrics
{ Buon gior -- no~al mon -- do. }

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Re: Lyric Ties (desperate)

2007-04-01 Thread José Luis Cruz

Here is the page for downloading the fonts:
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download

If you have windows, this is the direct linc to the ttf's on a zip:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dejavu/dejavu-ttf-2.16.zip?download


I extracted the fonts to the c:\windows\fonts folder (where all the
fonts are located), and lilypond were able to use them without
touching anything. I don't know if it'll be as easy for you.

cheers


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Lyric Ties (desperate)

2007-04-01 Thread Aaron Dalton
I am preparing a series of typeset manuscripts for both formal
publication and my thesis.  I cannot do this until I figure out how to
typeset lyric ties (http://huge-url/#Entering-lyrics).  The problem, as
the documentation states, is that you need a font that correctly encodes
U+203F.  What the documentation does not tell me is the following:

1) Is there a font included in the Lilypond package that does include
this character?

2) If not, where exactly can I obtain such a font (such as the stated
DejaVuLGC), or how would I even begin a hunt for such a font?

3) Once found, how do I install this font in the Lilypond hierarchy so
that it is detected by the binary?

4) And finally, how to I tell Lilypond to use a particular font for all
lyrics in an .ly file?

The list archives simply turn up an exchange a long time back where
PersonX asked the question, PersonY told him to install DejaVuLGC, and
PersonX then said, Thanks!  I've tried to contact PersonX and PersonY
but have not received responses or bounce messages.  I am desperate to
get this working.  I do *not* want to re-typeset all this music in some
lame-trash software like Finale.

I am indeed using v2.10.x.  I normally use the FreeBSD package but also
use it on Windows.  (My Cygwin install segfaults though, btw.)  I
sincerely appreciate any guidance anyone can give me in solving this
problem.

Many thanks,
-- 
Aaron Dalton
University of Calgary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Lyric Ties

2007-02-11 Thread Aaron Dalton
I'm setting a Renaissance madrigal and am getting a series of
compilation errors with regards to lyric ties.

programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming.
Skipping glyph U+1000203F, file
/home/aaron/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf//CenturySchL-Roma.otf
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name returns error
continuing, cross fingers

Now, the documentation says that I have to make sure I have an
appropriate font to render this glyph.  The font listed (DejaVuLGC) does
not come with the Lilypond FreeBSD package.  Is there a packaged font I
need to use to font to render this glyph.  The font listed (DejaVuLGC)
does not come with the Lilypond FreeBSD package.  Is there a packaged
font I need to use to render these ties?  If it's an external font, how
do I install that into the FreeBSD Lilypond tree so it's seen?

Thank you for your time and assistance!

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Lyric Ties

2007-02-07 Thread Aaron Dalton
I'm setting a Renaissance madrigal and am getting a series of compilation 
errors with regards to lyric ties.


programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming.
Skipping glyph U+1000203F, file 
/home/aaron/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf//CenturySchL-Roma.otf

continuing, cross fingers
programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name returns error
continuing, cross fingers

Now, the documentation says that I have to make sure I have an appropriate 
font to render this glyph.  The font listed (DejaVuLGC) does not come with 
the Lilypond FreeBSD package.  Is there a packaged font I need to use to 
render these ties?  If it's an external font, how do I install that into 
the FreeBSD Lilypond tree so it's seen?


Thank you for your time and assistance!
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Super Duper Games
http://superdupergames.org


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