Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:07:09 +0100 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > On Di., 30. Okt. 2012 19:35:42 CET, Tiresia GIUNO > wrote: > > > But shouldn't be: "The syllable > > should be ranged _right_ under the first notehead"? > > No, ranged left means that the left of the syllable is aligned with > the left of the note (i.e. left-aligned). > http://www.paratype.com/help/term/terms.asp?code=286 > > Cheers, > Reinhold. OK, sorry for my stupid question... I understand now. Thanks a lot, TG ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
On Di., 30. Okt. 2012 19:35:42 CET, Tiresia GIUNO wrote: > But shouldn't be: "The syllable > should be ranged _right_ under the first notehead"? No, ranged left means that the left of the syllable is aligned with the left of the note (i.e. left-aligned). http://www.paratype.com/help/term/terms.asp?code=286 Cheers, Reinhold. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:23:30 +0100 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > On 2012-10-30 00:46, Tiresia GIUNO wrote: > > is there any reason why Lyrics on the two staves in the attached > > example is not correctly vertical aligned? > > Yes, there is a reason. See e.g. Elaine Gould: Behind Bars -- The > Definitive Guide to Music Notation (published by Faber Music, 2011), > p.439, section "Syllable underlay" > The syllable should be ranged left under the first notehead. This > draws the eye to the right - an important consideration, since the > singer always needs to be looking forward. > Since lilypond cannot determine automatically that your case might be > that very exception mentioned in the last sentence, it simply uses > the default: centering the syllable to the single note in the first > staff and left-aligning with the note in the second staff, since > there the syllable is assigned to more than one note. > > Cheers, > Reinhold Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand the sense of that "misalignment" in order to align the syllable according to the melody more than to the single note. But shouldn't be: "The syllable should be ranged _right_ under the first notehead"? Thank you again, TG ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
On 2012-10-30 00:46, Tiresia GIUNO wrote: is there any reason why Lyrics on the two staves in the attached example is not correctly vertical aligned? Yes, there is a reason. See e.g. Elaine Gould: Behind Bars -- The Definitive Guide to Music Notation (published by Faber Music, 2011), p.439, section "Syllable underlay": = SINGLE NOTE PER SYLLABLE Centre each syllable directly under its note. [...] MORE THAN ONE NOTE PER SYLLABLE (INCLUDING TIED NOTES) The syllable should be ranged left under the first notehead. This draws the eye to the right - an important consideration, since the singer always needs to be looking forward. Some editions place all syllables consistently to the left of the note, but, in general, this not helpful. From time to time there may be an aesthetic case for doing so, in order to align vertically either the same text below different staves or different texts below the same voice part. = Since lilypond cannot determine automatically that your case might be that very exception mentioned in the last sentence, it simply uses the default: centering the syllable to the single note in the first staff and left-aligning with the note in the second staff, since there the syllable is assigned to more than one note. Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://www.kainhofer.com * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * Edition Kainhofer, Music Publisher, http://www.edition-kainhofer.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:02:09 +0100
Thomas Morley wrote:
> 2012/10/30 Tiresia GIUNO :
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there any reason why Lyrics on the two staves in the attached
> > example is not correctly vertical aligned?
>
> No idea.
> But you could use:
>
> secondWords = \lyricmode {
> Ho -- | \skip1 di -- | e
> }
>
>
> HTH,
> Harm
Thank you, with "\skip" it gets correctly aligned.
TG
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Re: Lyrics Vertical Alignment
2012/10/30 Tiresia GIUNO :
> Hi,
>
> is there any reason why Lyrics on the two staves in the attached
> example is not correctly vertical aligned?
No idea.
But you could use:
secondWords = \lyricmode {
Ho -- | \skip1 di -- | e
}
HTH,
Harm
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Lyrics Vertical Alignment
Hi,
is there any reason why Lyrics on the two staves in the attached
example is not correctly vertical aligned?
Thanks for your help!
TG<>%{ lyrics %}
\version "2.16.0"
\include "english.ly"
firstMusic = \relative c'' {
\time 3/2
g1. | f4. g8 a4 g2 fs4 | g1.
}
firstWords = \lyricmode {
Ho -- | di -- _ _ e __ _ | et
}
secondMusic = \relative c'' {
g1. | a1 a2 | g1.
}
secondWords = \lyricmode {
Ho -- | _ di -- | e
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "first" {\firstMusic}
\lyricsto "first" \new Lyrics \firstWords
>>
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "second" {\secondMusic}
\lyricsto "second" \new Lyrics \secondWords
>>
>>
}
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