Re: first Linux/windoze virus
Looks like the start of "my market is shrinking because people are using Linux" we better come up with some fud(fear, uncertainty and denial) to get linux users ready for our latest new virus protection product NAV for Linux...? Apologies if they already have a NAV for linux... I didn't check -- James McDonald MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I Registered Linux User #209832 http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home) Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) 3:33pm up 8 days, 20:21, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: first Linux/windoze virus
From: "Susan Macchia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Is it just me, or is there no explanation of how it is spread?> > > > >http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html I have some serious doubts about this whole thing - too many things just don't add up. 1) First, they don't give a detailed account of the mechanics of this supposed virus, what files and processes it affects and how. 2) This is supposedly based on the Win32 virus - that virus, by definition, can only attack Windows derivatives and related applications. 3) If it attacks linux, which means it can attack an operating environment that is POSIX compliant and has SysV-derived structures, why is it described as NOT affecting Unix? 4) Why do I get a complete blank when I search for "simile" at www.cert.org? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Small mini poll
Hi Guys, I have been watching the boxen thread with interest. I noticed that a few of the the members are using some flavor of Slackware on some of their systems. I would like to know, of the members who use Slackware, what ytou think of it and how has it worked for you. I have been very happy so far and use Slackware in place of Caldera for all of my new installations. v8.0 is in need of an updating but the new 8.1 looks to be fixing that issue quite nicely. What has been your experience? Oh and for the record my systems here are: P3, 1Ghz, Caldera 3.1/Win2K, 512M RAM, 32G LVD SCSI P3-600, Caldera 3.1, 384M RAM, 32G LVD SCSI P3-500, Caldera 3.1, 384 RAM, 20G IDE P3-1Ghz, Slackware 8, 512M RAM, 20G IDE P-133, Slackware 8, 98M RAM, 15G SCSI P-133, OS/2 v4.1, 64M RAM, 10G SCSI P3-1Ghz, OS/2 v4.1, 256M RAM, 40G IDE Stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
New Step
Thanks to Mike Andrew we now have a Step on The various integrated development packages available under Linux. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/code-ide.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: This mix...
Collins wrote: >On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 10:08:26 -0400 Jerry McBride ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>I haven't bothered to apply those two patches, but was planning to >>>whenever 2.4.19 came out. So what do you mean by 'flaky'? >>> >>> >>> >>With the mentioned kernel source and patches, I've been getting >>random lockups. No complaints in >>messages... it just works well then it's a rock. If I reboot the >>machine into a different kernel, no problems >>at all then. Since experiencing the random bit, I haven't used XFS >>with that kernel. >> >>I wsa just curious if anyone else was tinkering along the same lines >>as I was... >> >> >> > >gentoo has a lot of experience selecting and supplying kernel patches >that work, and they haven't yet offered the kernel preemptive and >low-latency patches along with XFS - just one or the other. My bet >is: this is not a stable choice at present. > > > No, it's a terrible choice. I've got XFS on Gentoo, and I badly messed up my system to the point where it needed a fresh start. I got the Crypto sources, because they include preempt, low latency, XFS, and the most important, USB 2.0 (EHCI), simply because I've now got my first USB 2.0 device (Smart Media reader). I put in everything that looked fancy with the performance enhancing (preempt, low latency, IDE taskfile), one at a time, two at a time, all, etc. My system is at a screeching halt, and the only kernel that truly works well is the one on the installation CD. Of course, it could be the binutils-2.12 and gcc-3.1, but I don't really know. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
New Step
Thanks to Mike Andrew we now have a Step on The newer FLTK C++ widget generator. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/fltk.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Lonnie I have Postgres here and wilwork on getting it installed. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 20:55:23 -0300 David / Federico Voges Only need enogh db to write sql queries I think, doing a db concepts course. I am not sure of how much capability or if a db program is to designed. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
R. Quenett wrote: > I'm genuinely curious how what has been discussed here so far would > differ significantly from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org and the > alfs and blfs offshoots. I think the immediately apparent difference would be the end product being a "complete" distribution vs. a "here's the tools, build it yourself" package. That is, if my take on the hamburger/house comparison listed on their page is an accurate description, *and* if that's the agreed upon, completed build we're contemplating. > Anyway, the feature I need most is a genuine idiot proof (it'd have to be > good because I'd be using it myself:) way of knowing in detail what > mods occur when I install/change something and reverting with > certainty to the previous state. For the latter, I've done partition > cloning/reversion also for some considerable time. It's a good way > of climbing out of the pit but often doesn't help me much figuring > out how I got that far under a pile of something that deep that smells > _that_ bad. And it only works if I revert the same partition that I > changed, fancy that. Yes, a variety of choice is always good, none of us like having options hidden from us in an attempt to "idiot-proof" the OS. Maybe a list of diagnostics such as: "Restore my system" and "Diagnose what's broken" and an installation list of: "New user install", "Let me try it", and "I'm an expert" Also, would it be a good idea to have a small, hidden partition containing enough config files to be able to restore from the install cd back to a last known good state? -- Andrew Mathews 7:30pm up 21 days, 19:10, 7 users, load average: 1.09, 1.09, 1.12 Maybe Computer Science should be in the College of Theology. -- R. S. Barton ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Keith Antoine wrote: > This all came about since my last two girlfriends fell over laughing when I > put my thongs on. Be grateful they were laughing, not crying. -- Andrew Mathews 8:05pm up 21 days, 19:45, 7 users, load average: 1.03, 1.08, 1.04 A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the vexation of thinking. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Journals, 1831 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Course, I didn't realize there *were* any Caldera RPMs. > > By that I meant any rpm that had been built on a Caldera based > machine. Also Lycoris was based on Caldera 3.0( I think). I was being sarcastic in that essentially no-one makes Caldera RPMS. Even Caldera. Except for what comes on their disks. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Saturday 01 June 2002 08:41 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Saturday 01 June 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: > > BTW, has anybody tried the SxS on rolling your own (Skippy?), > > http://www.linux-sxs.org/rolldist.html ? > > I guess Joe Cheek is no longer sub'd, or he woulda chimed in on the > > Lycoris thread... > > Yes I did read this epistle of Josephs', somewhat totuous for my brain so I > have tried emailing him to see if he is still alive and kicking. However do > not know as yet if the mail address is alive also. When Lycoris was RedmondLinux, and just starting out, he was very responsive to e-mails and answered just about every post on the RL mailing list (I was sub'd for a little while). It seems he's met with a little success, and as a result, I imagine his available time isn't what it used to be :-( -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 7 days, 2:53, 4 users, load average: 0.77, 0.77, 0.73 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
from Keith Antoine: " way to go for me. Do not ak why, it was over 5 mins ago. What was the question(?p R -- http://www.quen.net "Fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sunday 02 June 2002 09:09 am, you wrote: > Andrew makes an excellent suggestion here. If we do finally get enough > mmomentum behind this, we should create a new list, rather than > cluttering up this one with content that those not involved wouldn't be > interested in. > > I'll even be so bold as to suggest that SourceForge might be well suited > to managing such a project. I did raise this point a while ago but the traffic looked as if it was falling off, so did not persue. However we do have a 'general' list here to start with, some are subbed in I am but no traffic so why not use this. If it grows thats another ballgame, however I am in it for selfish reasons, what I can get out of it in the way of an easily upgradeable and installable distro. I have machinery and time but no knowledge of install scripts or programming. I am looking at rpm specs at the moment, and merrily converting tarballs and .src.rpms into installable rpms on 3.1.1 along with dependant files. What I am doing is the easy part but I am also learning: I just never thought that I would have enough brains left at nearly 70 to even think about it. This all came about since my last two girlfriends fell over laughing when I put my thongs on. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sunday 02 June 2002 06:58 am, you wrote: > from Andrew Mathews: > > " points to consider and/or include such as Skippy's current efforts. I > " *do* think it's worthy of more discussion and analysis and would like to > " hear more opinions. > > I'm genuinely curious how what has been discussed here so far would > differ significantly from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org and the > alfs and blfs offshoots. I did get that far and dropped it about 2 weeks ago as it appeared not the way to go for me. Do not ak why, it was over 5 mins ago. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
New Step
Thanks to Mike Andrew we now have a Step on How to use an existing kernel configuration. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/oldconf.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Sunday 02 June 2002 12:46 am, you wrote: > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The more I hear the better it sounds. Also I would presume being that > > its Caldera based that anything 'caldera rpm'd' will work with > > lycoris, also probably anything that is forthcoming from the 'merger'. > > I'm not certain about Caldera RPMS working on Lycoris. Don't know, just > never tried it. > > Course, I didn't realize there *were* any Caldera RPMs. By that I meant any rpm that had been built on a Caldera based machine. Also Lycoris was based on Caldera 3.0( I think). -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Saturday 01 June 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: > I'd rather see us keep an updated distros page, the info here > http://www.linux-sxs.org/distrourl.html and here > http://www.linux-sxs.org/distroref.html > seems dated. The lycoris thread has some good info on alternative distros, > as does a couple other threads. > Perhaps we'd be better served *endorsing* a distro, or coupla distro's and > maintaining an updated distro's section than trying to roll our own. > BTW, has anybody tried the SxS on rolling your own (Skippy?), > http://www.linux-sxs.org/rolldist.html ? > I guess Joe Cheek is no longer sub'd, or he woulda chimed in on the Lycoris > thread... > > Regards, > Tim Yes I did read this epistle of Josephs', somewhat totuous for my brain so I have tried emailing him to see if he is still alive and kicking. However do not know as yet if the mail address is alive also. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yes, I know, but you need innodb and from reading the docs I got the impression that it's somewhat complicated to use it (I might be wrong). Besides, I think it is hack. Innodb (again, from mySQL docs) is a DB system itself. So, you end up running a DB which runs ANOTHER DB. mySQL was designed to be fast (really fast) but ended being a hack over another (eg: tansaction support and foreign keys). If you want a small fast DB mySQL is excelent. But, if you want a full featured SQL database, use PostgreSQL. BTW, mySQL (last time I checked didn't support stored procedures, at least not coded in SQL). Postgres does (another big plus for large projects). On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:28:39 -0700, David Aikema wrote: >On June 1, 2002 03:40 pm, Federico Voges wrote: > >> What DB features do you need?? mySQL is ok if you don't need >> transactions (COMMIT/ROLLBACK) and foreign keys. If you need then, you > >Transactions and foreign keys are supported when using InnoDB tables, in some >of the more recent MySQL versions IIRC. > >David Aikema >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPPle6xRcJRaVKt4XEQJqSACg2imnz/Rw2fsBiUaQ9CHpIXyghy4AoKfc 6FqoQBPy8agHVkFGoFpaC6Nl =h13A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Saturday 01 June 2002 05:24 pm, you wrote: > On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:35 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > > On Thursday 30 May 2002 07:43 pm, you wrote: > > > > Icould not agree with you more, as for suse again in agreement but I had > > more problems with trying to get the second ccddrive seen (dvd), in fact > > I did not manage it. Also the presumption on install that it knows what > > partitions to install on and wanted to delete a winders partition. Ok, I > > know about winders but wanting to delete it and also rssze things, no > > way. > > You can tell it to use whatever partitions you want, and not to resize > them. Oh yes thats correct and I used that way but it it not easy to fin d out how you do that its hidden. Suse is setup so that you do as they say and ist hard to find how not to. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On June 1, 2002 03:40 pm, Federico Voges wrote: > What DB features do you need?? mySQL is ok if you don't need > transactions (COMMIT/ROLLBACK) and foreign keys. If you need then, you Transactions and foreign keys are supported when using InnoDB tables, in some of the more recent MySQL versions IIRC. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Well I have negative spare time, but I'm willing to donate a few positive spikes where I can. I'm really a perl guy, but I've used Unix for about 13 years now, and I once worked up our company Unix file structure and logon sequence. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Bob Hemus wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >>On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:22:44 -0600 >>Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>2> Reading the writeups about Libranet, etc., I always came to the >>>conclusion that the package offerings were too damn old. >> >>Old and Stable. >>This is not always bad. It seems to be the debian way. >>But you have the option of changing the sources.list and going to the unstable or >testing versions; unstable is pretty much the standard to most distros, I think. >Debian has a different definition of stable. > > > Wasn't Debian the OS that powered the little moon crawler? > Bob I don't believe so. I think it was running some kind of assembler on an embedded chip. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:10pm up 43 days, 23:01, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.18, 0.35 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Richard R. Sivernell wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 11:13:38 -0600 > > I have expertise in software development databases & some scripting of > Unix korn bash, though not heavy. I ve a question here, I need a very small > footprint database for linux. I have a laptop that currently has peanut on it > & I have left approx 1.6 gig left, I need to put Open Office and development > tools and a small sql database. any recommendations. Mysql did not > ook good at first sight, Postgres is to large I think, Oracle/db 2 is out. If I agree that Oracle & DB2 couldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, be considered "small footprint" DBs. PostgreSQL really doesn't occupy significantly more room (or memory) than MySQL, and is far more mature & full featured. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:10pm up 43 days, 23:01, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.18, 0.35 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Andrew Mathews wrote: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: >> Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. >> You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the >> resources on the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge >> some time to get it off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. >> So? > > > > IIRC, that was one of the topics within the first day or two this list > was started. (BTW, archives for July 2001 have posts about Untied (sic) > Linux.) But nonetheless, I'd certainly be willing to have a go at it. I > have the hardware, and I can work on it a minimum of 8 hrs. a week, > probably more. What I don't have time for though, is doing the research > required. Someone would need to do the searching for info and most > likely write up the documentation (eventually becoming a new Step). > There would also be a need for people to test the product on platforms > of all different types. If enough people (in a cast of votes) say yes, > then I'd say lets start a new list for direct communication between the > "developers", create a central repository for updates, files, and > documentation, and develop a reasonable means to reach a common ground > or compromise to any issues such as "which version of gcc to use", etc. > I definitely agree it shouldn't be a halfway effort, and we have some > points to consider and/or include such as Skippy's current efforts. I > *do* think it's worthy of more discussion and analysis and would like to > hear more opinions. Andrew makes an excellent suggestion here. If we do finally get enough mmomentum behind this, we should create a new list, rather than cluttering up this one with content that those not involved wouldn't be interested in. I'll even be so bold as to suggest that SourceForge might be well suited to managing such a project. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:05pm up 43 days, 22:56, 4 users, load average: 0.12, 0.24, 0.44 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, What DB features do you need?? mySQL is ok if you don't need transactions (COMMIT/ROLLBACK) and foreign keys. If you need then, you should use PostgreSQL (IIRC it's not much bigger than mySQL and it's "more" SQL compliant than mySQL). You should be more than OK with 1.6GB (unless you plan to have a VERY BIG database). Hope this help you. On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 03:32:26 -0500, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: >On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 11:13:38 -0600 > > I have expertise in software development databases & some scripting of >Unix korn bash, though not heavy. I ve a question here, I need a very small >footprint database for linux. I have a laptop that currently has peanut on it >& I have left approx 1.6 gig left, I need to put Open Office and development >tools and a small sql database. any recommendations. Mysql did not >ook good at first sight, Postgres is to large I think, Oracle/db 2 is out. If >I have misjudged any thing let me know. I am going to be taking 2 courses the >at UNT this summer DatabaseConcepts & Unix sys programming, aka Linux >system programming. 1st course at 12 noon & 2nd course at 8pm, to far to travel >back & forth for, so I will stay at school during afternoons. A, some time >there too for work on distro, especially if I can get pcmcia to work & a lan >connection >at UNT. > >cheers >-- >Rick Sivernell >Dallas, Texas 75287 >972 306-2296 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 >Registered Linux User > > .~. > / v \ > /( _ )\ > ^ ^ >In Linux we trust! >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPPlNYhRcJRaVKt4XEQIvWgCdGZZ2FnTwAryMSF+c0yMp0Ow/5HQAn3OW Sj9MRCqRj0oa8CvWI+ogF1ih =2gus -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Knoppix
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 01:47:28 +0200 Klaus-Peter Schrage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag, 31. Mai 2002 23:59 schrieb Net Llama!: > > On Fri, 31 May 2002, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > > > 3 hours? Must be nice. I started it 5 hours ago, and its only 78% > > done. Then again, you're physically alot closer to the server than I. > > On a nice day with a nice server, I get a ftp download speed of about 86 > kB per second, what's roughly speaking 12 seconds for a MB. For the > Knoppix iso (about 690 MB), that adds up to a theoretical download time > of 2.3 hours. Of course I am closer to the German Knoppix servers, but > with good US servers I obtains similar download speeds. > I live in New Jersey and just ftp'ed a copy in 1 hour 30 miutes. Whom ever needs a copy here in the USA, just ask. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 6:38pm up 80 days, 23:49, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.18, 0.18 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: How many Boxen?
On May 28, 2002 02:17 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their > home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah, > whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a > Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a > Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8. Mine: 1 P3 w/ SuSE 7.3 & Win98SE, 1 P233MMX w/ Trustix acting as gateway Rest of the family's computers: 1 iMac w/ MacOS 9.1(???), 1 celeron 333 w/ win98, 1 celeron 400 w/ win98, 1 celeron 450 w/ win95 David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:22:44 -0600 > Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2> Reading the writeups about Libranet, etc., I always came to the > > conclusion that the package offerings were too damn old. > > Old and Stable. > This is not always bad. It seems to be the debian way. > But you have the option of changing the sources.list and going to the unstable or >testing versions; unstable is pretty much the standard to most distros, I think. >Debian has a different definition of stable. Wasn't Debian the OS that powered the little moon crawler? Bob -- A wise man can see more from the bottom of a well, than a fool can see from a mountain top. Unknown ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Screenshot captures
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:46:54 -0400 Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No problem: bring up the desktop or window you want a screenshot of. > Access gimp >file.acquire>screenshot enter. If you want to save to a > floppy or other file place the mouse pointer on the displayed screen > shot and hit the right mouse button. >file>save as select file > /mnt/floppy/ or other file. Bang whiz and it's done > > Collins wrote: > > > > I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how > > does one go about doing this? For example, I have several > > desktops. How do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a > > package) without messing up the display I want to capture? > > Yep, it's depressing how simple it was to just type 'emerge gv' (none of that searching rpmfind.net, etc.), wait a few minutes, then do the job. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 11:13:38 -0600 I have expertise in software development databases & some scripting of Unix korn bash, though not heavy. I ve a question here, I need a very small footprint database for linux. I have a laptop that currently has peanut on it & I have left approx 1.6 gig left, I need to put Open Office and development tools and a small sql database. any recommendations. Mysql did not ook good at first sight, Postgres is to large I think, Oracle/db 2 is out. If I have misjudged any thing let me know. I am going to be taking 2 courses the at UNT this summer DatabaseConcepts & Unix sys programming, aka Linux system programming. 1st course at 12 noon & 2nd course at 8pm, to far to travel back & forth for, so I will stay at school during afternoons. A, some time there too for work on distro, especially if I can get pcmcia to work & a lan connection at UNT. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: How many Boxen?
> -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Kurt Wall > Envoye : mardi 28 mai 2002 23:18 > Objet : How many Boxen? > > I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their > home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah, > whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a > Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a > Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8. *** Two K6-II with a modified RH 7.1, 1 Athlon on my girl-friends workstation with W2k, one Celeron portable with W2k, two 486DX-66 with RH 7.3, one 386SX-25 with RH 5.0. > Way OT, naturally... *** Naturally... ;-) Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
from Andrew Mathews: " points to consider and/or include such as Skippy's current efforts. I " *do* think it's worthy of more discussion and analysis and would like to " hear more opinions. I'm genuinely curious how what has been discussed here so far would differ significantly from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org and the alfs and blfs offshoots. Anyway, the feature I need most is a genuine idiot proof (it'd have to be good because I'd be using it myself:) way of knowing in detail what mods occur when I install/change something and reverting with certainty to the previous state. For the latter, I've done partition cloning/reversion also for some considerable time. It's a good way of climbing out of the pit but often doesn't help me much figuring out how I got that far under a pile of something that deep that smells _that_ bad. And it only works if I revert the same partition that I changed, fancy that. R -- http://www.quen.net "Fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Screenshot captures
No problem: bring up the desktop or window you want a screenshot of. Access gimp >file.acquire>screenshot enter. If you want to save to a floppy or other file place the mouse pointer on the displayed screen shot and hit the right mouse button. >file>save as select file /mnt/floppy/ or other file. Bang whiz and it's done Lee Collins wrote: > > I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how does > one go about doing this? For example, I have several desktops. How > do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a package) without > messing up the display I want to capture? > > -- > Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? > gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 02:02:23PM -0400, T. Watkins wrote: > Jos. Cheek, founder of Lycoris/Redmond, formerly worked on COL, as I > recall him saying in an email to this list. Perhaps the Caldera rpm's > would work on Lycoris. Well, not quite. He used COL as the base for Redmond Linux. He never "worked on" COL. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I can offer another 8 hours/week. I think we should start collecting data about skills and dedication (Hs/week). If we get enough people (and the requiered skills!), we can start planning the development. What you do think?? BTW, although I've been using Linux since 1994, I don't consider myself a Linux guru. I have an idea of how the OS works, but I've never taken the time to investigate the internals (specially OS boot and init). BUT I'm willing to learn and I have a programming background (all I need is a project leader to guide me). On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 11:13:38 -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote: >Douglas J Hunley wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. >> You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the resources on >> the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge some time to get it >> off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. >> So? > > >IIRC, that was one of the topics within the first day or two this list >was started. (BTW, archives for July 2001 have posts about Untied (sic) >Linux.) But nonetheless, I'd certainly be willing to have a go at it. I >have the hardware, and I can work on it a minimum of 8 hrs. a week, >probably more. What I don't have time for though, is doing the research >required. Someone would need to do the searching for info and most >likely write up the documentation (eventually becoming a new Step). >There would also be a need for people to test the product on platforms >of all different types. If enough people (in a cast of votes) say yes, >then I'd say lets start a new list for direct communication between the >"developers", create a central repository for updates, files, and >documentation, and develop a reasonable means to reach a common ground >or compromise to any issues such as "which version of gcc to use", etc. >I definitely agree it shouldn't be a halfway effort, and we have some >points to consider and/or include such as Skippy's current efforts. I >*do* think it's worthy of more discussion and analysis and would like to >hear more opinions. >-- >Andrew Mathews > > 10:45am up 21 days, 10:25, 7 users, load average: 1.06, 1.06, 1.06 > >I'm changing the CHANNEL ... But all I get is commercials for "RONCO >MIRACLE BAMBOO STEAMERS"! > >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPPkvexRcJRaVKt4XEQICIwCg5yIMlhK2tth8TA6WrQ3/IMPBFxAAnipY 2ufhG+2o4LNx05Bi1B/EArDE =+R68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux Training
I'm considering investing in some professional Linux training, You know, some edgy-ka-shun. So what would anyone recommend? The first thing that comes to mind is RedHat RHCE. What else is out there? Anything better? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Super computers vs. Linux cluster systems
An article that gives Linux a good plug. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cn/20020601/tc_cn/929987&printer=1 Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: This mix...
Suse 8.0 offer this option duing install... although you'll have to apply the pre-emptable patches yourself. -M- On Saturday 01 June 2002 07:05, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2002 21:48:40 -0400 Douglas J Hunley > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---snip--- > > > 2.4.18 (ext3) with pre-empt and grsecurity on the mothership. no kernels > > > > issues at all. not quite what you were after though.. > > I'd like to have XFS on 2.4.18 with the mentioned kernel patches. I'm > getting to be quite happy using the pr-emptable > kernel and like to try XFS with it. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. > You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the resources on > the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge some time to get it > off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. > So? IIRC, that was one of the topics within the first day or two this list was started. (BTW, archives for July 2001 have posts about Untied (sic) Linux.) But nonetheless, I'd certainly be willing to have a go at it. I have the hardware, and I can work on it a minimum of 8 hrs. a week, probably more. What I don't have time for though, is doing the research required. Someone would need to do the searching for info and most likely write up the documentation (eventually becoming a new Step). There would also be a need for people to test the product on platforms of all different types. If enough people (in a cast of votes) say yes, then I'd say lets start a new list for direct communication between the "developers", create a central repository for updates, files, and documentation, and develop a reasonable means to reach a common ground or compromise to any issues such as "which version of gcc to use", etc. I definitely agree it shouldn't be a halfway effort, and we have some points to consider and/or include such as Skippy's current efforts. I *do* think it's worthy of more discussion and analysis and would like to hear more opinions. -- Andrew Mathews 10:45am up 21 days, 10:25, 7 users, load average: 1.06, 1.06, 1.06 I'm changing the CHANNEL ... But all I get is commercials for "RONCO MIRACLE BAMBOO STEAMERS"! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yes, they should work. In fact, somewhere in www.lycoris.com/www.lycoris.org there's some article/link pointing to Caldera's FTP site as a source for RPMs (I can't remember where though). On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:46:21 -0500, Michael Hipp wrote: >Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The more I hear the better it sounds. Also I would presume being that >> its Caldera based that anything 'caldera rpm'd' will work with >> lycoris, also probably anything that is forthcoming from the 'merger'. > >I'm not certain about Caldera RPMS working on Lycoris. Don't know, just >never tried it. > >Course, I didn't realize there *were* any Caldera RPMs. > >Michael >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPPkYXBRcJRaVKt4XEQLlpgCbBi+pd49vwc4OtKJJ+g3BMkwa9FcAnj5u RTUeSY9VdoympUdJb6pSJP4K =eLF2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Jos. Cheek, founder of Lycoris/Redmond, formerly worked on COL, as I recall him saying in an email to this list. Perhaps the Caldera rpm's would work on Lycoris. Tom ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
mikeroo address?
Hey, if anybody knows mike andrew's latest email address, can you please send it to me off-list?? Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
laser printer works
I just thought I would feed back about my laser printer choice: I decided on a Samsung ML1210 and it is working well. Of course it was easy to set up in Windoze, but what was even more amazing is it took less time to set up in Caldera 3.1 then Windoze. All I needed to do was install the ppd file from the disk and it printed right away. Getting it to work under my Linux From Scratch system was more difficult but ultimately I was able to do this. Eventually I will write up a step by step for this. -- Marianne Taylor ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: first Linux/windoze virus
Not just you, I thought the same thing. Not only do I want to know how it is spread, (like how does it muck w/ the executables? ut must be an executable itself that rewrites the .exe). And what can I do to make sure it doesn't infect my box. "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is it just me, or is there no explanation of how it is spread?> > >http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
I remember reading somewhere maybe the Lycoris forum that it was based on eW3.1. However I did go to Caldera and download a Cald RPM and it worked as well as any RPM works. in other words it installed with Dependency problems. Ray On 1 Jun 2002, at 9:46, Michael Hipp wrote: > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The more I hear the better it sounds. Also I would presume being that > > its Caldera based that anything 'caldera rpm'd' will work with lycoris, > > also probably anything that is forthcoming from the 'merger'. > > I'm not certain about Caldera RPMS working on Lycoris. Don't know, just > never tried it. > > Course, I didn't realize there *were* any Caldera RPMs. > > Michael > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Ray & Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra & WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:12:40 -0700 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On June 1, 2002 08:32 am, Collins wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:15:02 -0700 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote: > > > >" but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too." > > > > > > Collins, I thought you were more intelligent then that! > > > > Not me. I even load up kde occasionally just to see what progress > > they are making. I don't bother with gnome very often, though; I > > can't stand the very different placement of the window controls. > > Ooops, sorry, I thought that was your post. Dang! I knew I should > have had that cup of java first. > no I meant not me, as in I'm not quite that intelligent, but I do get by. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Screenshot captures
My favorite screen capture is xv. It has very nice options for capturing a particular window unmolested. On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:40:25 -0600 Collins wrote: > I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how does > one go about doing this? For example, I have several desktops. How > do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a package) without > messing up the display I want to capture? > > -- > Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? > gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On June 1, 2002 08:32 am, Collins wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:15:02 -0700 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote: > > >" but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too." > > > > Collins, I thought you were more intelligent then that! > > Not me. I even load up kde occasionally just to see what progress > they are making. I don't bother with gnome very often, though; I > can't stand the very different placement of the window controls. Ooops, sorry, I thought that was your post. Dang! I knew I should have had that cup of java first. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Screenshot captures
With kde's screen capture you run the program, then select the item(s) you want to capture. The capture program stays out of the way. Collins wrote: > I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how does > one go about doing this? For example, I have several desktops. How > do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a package) without > messing up the display I want to capture? > -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Screenshot captures
I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how does one go about doing this? For example, I have several desktops. How do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a package) without messing up the display I want to capture? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:15:02 -0700 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote: > > > >" but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too." > > Collins, I thought you were more intelligent then that! Not me. I even load up kde occasionally just to see what progress they are making. I don't bother with gnome very often, though; I can't stand the very different placement of the window controls. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote: >" but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too." Collins, I thought you were more intelligent then that! -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: This mix...
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 10:08:26 -0400 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I haven't bothered to apply those two patches, but was planning to > > whenever 2.4.19 came out. So what do you mean by 'flaky'? > > > > With the mentioned kernel source and patches, I've been getting > random lockups. No complaints in > messages... it just works well then it's a rock. If I reboot the > machine into a different kernel, no problems > at all then. Since experiencing the random bit, I haven't used XFS > with that kernel. > > I wsa just curious if anyone else was tinkering along the same lines > as I was... > gentoo has a lot of experience selecting and supplying kernel patches that work, and they haven't yet offered the kernel preemptive and low-latency patches along with XFS - just one or the other. My bet is: this is not a stable choice at present. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:51:32 -0500 Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 31 May 2002 07:41 am, you wrote: > > > > > Did lycoris employ the same icon designers as Windows XP? It > > > seems to visually be very windows alike, going from the website > > > screenshots. > > > > I seem to remember that I read somewhere that it was aimed > > initially at windows refugees. > > Not only that but to create more windows refugees. > > This let them to the unfortunate decision to attempt to emulate the > look of XP (Yuck, Double Yuck). > > Course, it's no worse than the green slime look of SuSE. > > Who was it that said "KDE ought to look like KDE"? Good quote. > Yep, desktop decorations and opinions are just like A**s - everybody has one. My plain-jane xfce desktop would bore you to tears, but it just works for me. Why should I care if some users prefer the look and feel of M$ Windows? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: This mix...
On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't bothered to apply those two patches, but was planning to > whenever 2.4.19 came out. So what do you mean by 'flaky'? > With the mentioned kernel source and patches, I've been getting random lockups. No complaints in messages... it just works well then it's a rock. If I reboot the machine into a different kernel, no problems at all then. Since experiencing the random bit, I haven't used XFS with that kernel. I wsa just curious if anyone else was tinkering along the same lines as I was... Cheers, all. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 11:06am up 80 days, 16:17, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.16, 0.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: This mix...
On Fri, 31 May 2002 21:48:40 -0400 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ---snip--- > 2.4.18 (ext3) with pre-empt and grsecurity on the mothership. no kernels > > issues at all. not quite what you were after though.. > I'd like to have XFS on 2.4.18 with the mentioned kernel patches. I'm getting to be quite happy using the pr-emptable kernel and like to try XFS with it. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 11:03am up 80 days, 16:14, 5 users, load average: 0.14, 0.17, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 07:41 am, you wrote: > > > Did lycoris employ the same icon designers as Windows XP? It seems > > to visually be very windows alike, going from the website > > screenshots. > > I seem to remember that I read somewhere that it was aimed initially > at windows refugees. Not only that but to create more windows refugees. This let them to the unfortunate decision to attempt to emulate the look of XP (Yuck, Double Yuck). Course, it's no worse than the green slime look of SuSE. Who was it that said "KDE ought to look like KDE"? Good quote. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The more I hear the better it sounds. Also I would presume being that > its Caldera based that anything 'caldera rpm'd' will work with > lycoris, also probably anything that is forthcoming from the 'merger'. I'm not certain about Caldera RPMS working on Lycoris. Don't know, just never tried it. Course, I didn't realize there *were* any Caldera RPMs. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
In Linuxdom, we have an embarrassment of riches of distros to choose from. One to fit every taste & need. Is another really needed? If we do build one, let's call it YALD - Yet Another Linux Distro Michael Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. > You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the > resources on the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge > some time to get it off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. > So? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Boxen
Here's my $.02 worth of equipment: 1) Netgear RT314 el cheapo router attached to my ATT cable modem (4 ports, I'm using 3) 2) My primary machine is an HP Pavilion (HP anything except for printers is POS, but it works) PIII/800Mz/256Meg/40Gig HD/DVD/CD-RW/NIC set up to dual boot Win98 (used seldom) and linux (currently I only have gentoo and ELX on board). This system has an HP LJ1100 printer 3) My older machine is a home brew K6/II 300Mz/128MB/pair of 20Gig HD/CD-RW/NIC setup to dual boot Win98 (primary use) and linux (currently gentoo and ELX on board). As you can guess, this is the machine my wife and daughter use. This system has a Lexmark Z53 and a parallel port scanner (UMAX Astra 610P) 4) Docking station, Monitor, mouse, and keyboard for my work-supplied laptop (Compaq 800Mz/256MB/10Gig HD/DVD/NIC) that runs Win2K. You can grow a beard in the time it takes Win2K to complete booting! Fortunately, my employer provides me the ability to reach the corporate network via cable, so it's just like working at the office when I use it. I get my daily does of LookOut via this box. 5) I used to have everything linked up with Samba and Windows Sharing, but I've been too lazy to put that back together again. That's all folks! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Fri, 31 May 2002 19:24:32 -0500 "Richard R. Sivernell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List > >I too would like to be apart of a new distro, but I fear that it >would take > some > time to outline just what we would want and at least a year or two > to do such. [ snip ] > I am in the midst of designing a new IDE for Linux using a xclass > library I found. It is somewhat outdated and I am bringing it up to > latest ANSI - ISO level with stl. While I still use Kdevelop, it > does work but I do not like QT. ... I have grown very found of xfce > & would want it on all my machines. > A few points: 1) A new linux distro is a lot of work and IMO about as useful as t***s on a boar hog, as they say down south. 2) I think we would get a lot better mileage (extending Doug's suggestion) with a repository of information on a few good distros with pointers about how to get from new install to a stable, current, upgradable system. As Richard said, I like xfce on all my systems, but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too. 3) On a side note, Richard, have you tried Python with the PyGtk extension? I'm working on a simple gui-based portage display and installation package for gentoo. PyGtk is pretty easy to use, but it's not extremely well documented. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Boxen
Two Athlon 950 Thunderbird, one w/XP and RH7.2; one w/W98 Two MMX, one NT/RH6.2, one W2000 One P133, W95/RH 6.2 One Compaq Prosignia 400, W2000 Adv.Srv One 386SX (2MB RAM) running DOS 6.22 and Dave Mischler's IPRoute. Excellent gateway machine!! - Original Message - From: "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: How many Boxen? > I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their > home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah, > whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a > Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a > Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8. > > Way OT, naturally... > > Kurt > -- > Cleaning your house while your kids are still growing is like > shoveling the walk before it stops snowing. > -- Phyllis Diller > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
List I too would like to be apart of a new distro, but I fear that it would take some time to outline just what we would want and at least a year or two to do such. I also would hate it if that were started and never completed as per Lonnie's remarks, very wise Lonnie. While some of us lowly sub Linux type would gravel to be in the present of Guru(s) the likes of NeLlama, Burns Kurt Les Skippy and the many others, I may not have all the time needed. I do have some as I am trying to finish a degree in CSCI, so I can get a job again, but I do carry a full load. I am in the midst of designing a new IDE for Linux using a xclass library I found. It is somewhat outdated and I am bringing it up to latest ANSI - ISO level with stl. While I still use Kdevelop, it does work but I do not like QT. I have grown very found of xfce & would want it on all my machines. I do have a possible scenerio here, What if, no it is not HP, we took a distro that we all agreeded upon and rebuilt it. Also create a new installer program that would be more to our liking. I have done some of that in the past, but would need good direction from our better people here. I think Skippy may just be on to something down under with what he is doing. Am I off base & just rambling here? If there is a new roll our own, I would like to be apart of it, or any other direction this list goes. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Fri, 31 May 2002 21:26:11 -0700 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:22:44 -0600 > Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2> Reading the writeups about Libranet, etc., I always came to the > > conclusion that the package offerings were too damn old. > > Old and Stable. > This is not always bad. It seems to be the debian way. > But you have the option of changing the sources.list and going to > the unstable or testing versions; unstable is pretty much the > standard to most distros, I think. Debian has a different definition > of stable. YMMV. Stable to me means - new enough to provide current content; old enough (a few weeks, maybe) that it doesn't break my system. FYI, I'm within a few weeks of current on most gnu/kernel/wm/browser/mailer stuff, and I haven't had any sort of a failure in years. I wouldn't know a kernel oops if it bit me in the rear. I lied: There was one small problem. gentoo like many others got caught by a compatibility change in libpng a few months back - I did have to relink all my X related apps. But that's once in two years. Since I make frequent backups (clone to another partition), recovery is pretty easy. The debian concept may well be just the thing for servers (you only need security updates), but it leaves me cold. By the time kde 4.0 and kernel 2.6 are out and running well, debian may just possibly have picked up on 3.1 and 2.4. The debian concept may well work for desktop environments, too. The debian package management system is pretty slick. If I had put the same effort into debian that I have into gentoo, I could probably have a first-rate and stable (by my definition) debian system now. However, I chose to honor the fact that gentoo had chosen to offer the current X (my god, it's not stable yet!) with its install, whereas debian could only offer an ancient version of X (it's stable, of course) that would not run my Savage 3 video card. The debian installer also failed to setup DHCP automatically. I just wasn't ready to screw around with this when a perfectly good alternative (Mandrake, RedHat, etc. would have worked, too) was at hand. This is all history now. For all I know, it may now be possible to install a debian distro on my current hardware. It just left a bad taste in my mouth when I tried it, so I never tried again. If someone like Libranet wants to come up with a really current debian-based distro, I might give that a try. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:54 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. > You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the resources > on the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge some time to > get it off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. > So? I'd rather see us keep an updated distros page, the info here http://www.linux-sxs.org/distrourl.html and here http://www.linux-sxs.org/distroref.html seems dated. The lycoris thread has some good info on alternative distros, as does a couple other threads. Perhaps we'd be better served *endorsing* a distro, or coupla distro's and maintaining an updated distro's section than trying to roll our own. BTW, has anybody tried the SxS on rolling your own (Skippy?), http://www.linux-sxs.org/rolldist.html ? I guess Joe Cheek is no longer sub'd, or he woulda chimed in on the Lycoris thread... Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00am up 6 days, 14:53, 4 users, load average: 0.74, 0.73, 0.70 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
distributed file systems
is there a distributed file systems that allows sync between a windows folder with a linux directory? better have a windows client. Intermezzo works at partition and linux only... maybe I missed. -- Linux 2.4.18 up 10 days, 23:00, 0 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Join us in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Am Samstag, 1. Juni 2002 03:54 schrieb Douglas J Hunley: > Seems a lot of potential talk about crafting our own distro. > You folks serious? Who's got the time for this? I can manage the resources > on the mothership for it, but unless people actually pledge some time to > get it off the ground, I'm not gonna bother. > So? Would be a nice and challenging task with a lot of opportunity to learn for me, but summer's almost here, cycling and beer-gardens ... ask me again when the winter/spring edition of 'Skippix' is about to come out. Now seriously: it's better to say 'no' now than half way, as Lonni has expressed. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SxS Distro?
Am Samstag, 1. Juni 2002 04:20 schrieb Keith Antoine: > I said a while ago that I would be using Caldera 2.4 and upodating this. > Also that I would upload to the site when I was finished and that I would > be asking questions. It had since alterred from 2.4 which would not install > on my h/w, neither would ltp or 3.0 to 3.1.1. I am NOT competant to alter > the cd installation of such a distro but I am updating all I can of the > rpms plus others that I use in video straeming and video playing. I want > help as to how I make rpms of kernel sources ( hand holding), and anything > else that i cannot get checkinstall to make rpms for me. There is a somewhat hidden rpm target in the kernel source Makefile of v. 2.4.18. When compiling the kernel, try make xconfig rpm which gives you an installable kernel rpm (with modules). Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Non-fixated CDROM
It used to be that when you wrote to a cd that was it, one write, the TOC was done last. With multi session you can write to a disk then add more later. What it does it to make a linked TOC files. This takes up about 17M of space for the first TOC and about 13M for each one thereafter. This extra room needed does not show up in the file size(s) displayed by the burner(least not for me). On Friday 31 May 2002 08:49 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I am using alpha10 now, I have no idea what multisession would do for me, > and what it has to do with fixating. This is becoming a way of life: > there's so much interesting stuff to do I wouldn't have time to RTFM > even if the FM had been written yet, which it hasn't. In any event, > I've tossed the one CD that appeared to be unreadable, and located > the iso again, and burnt it. > > I did find out that fixating puts a table of contents on the disk; > why that's separate from the contents themselves is beyond my ken. > I also had a quick email exchange with the author, who put me to > rights about some of my stupidies (rightfully) and was still gracious > enough to take two of my suggestions seriously. This is also a way > of life, at least in Open Source. I love it. > > ++ kevin > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:17:02AM +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: > > On Friday 31 May 2002 06:37 am, you wrote: > > > I'm just getting used to this version of xcdroast, but was doing a > > > batch of CDROMs last night. In the process, I think once or twice > > > I thought the recording was done while the fixating was in fact > > > still going on, and I forced the drive open anyway. > > > > > > Now I don't know which ones this happened to. And I haven't a clue > > > what 'fixating' really is, or what a CDROM would look like if that > > > part of the process hadn't happened. Can anybody tell me what to > > > look for? > > > > > > Meanwhile, I think I'll look up the software team and complain about > > > that part of the GUI: it shows all 100% progress bars and I have to > > > read the fine print to know I'm not done yet. This is 0.98alpha8, > > > and I know it's a test release from a while back, but it's what > > > I've got. > > > > > > ++ kevin > > > > You should be using alpha10 it does multisession now. > > > > -- > > Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' > > 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 > > Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in > > storage > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list - > > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe > > info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lycoris
On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:35 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Thursday 30 May 2002 07:43 pm, you wrote: > > Icould not agree with you more, as for suse again in agreement but I had > more problems with trying to get the second ccddrive seen (dvd), in fact I > did not manage it. Also the presumption on install that it knows what > partitions to install on and wanted to delete a winders partition. Ok, I > know about winders but wanting to delete it and also rssze things, no way. You can tell it to use whatever partitions you want, and not to resize them. Pam ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
