Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 04:14 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?
>

Sorry, I didn't completely answer your question.  Top posting always confuses 
me!

xfce is a window manager, but you can't use it to do graphical login 
management (run level 5 on most systems).

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 04:14 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?
>
> Collins wrote:
> > FYI,
> >
> > A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is
> > based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot
> > or shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
> >
> > The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
> >
> > I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam
> > support which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need
> > his workaround for 1.22, let me know.
> >
> > BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released
> > because of
> > work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo
> > bugzilla #15660.
> >
> > Enjoy,

Confustion in terms - xdm wdm gdm kdm are graphical login managers that allow 
you to complete the login porcess and (either directly or under the covers) 
start your choice of window manager.  With xdm (much ligher weight than kdm 
or gdm) you only get the equivalent of a startx operation (i.e., you must 
have hard coded a window manager).   wdm supplies the missing functionality 
in xdm.  The advantage over kdm or gdm is that you don't have to install (and 
load) kde or gnome to get a flexible graphical login manager.
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Scripting KDE Menu Additions and Removals

2003-02-20 Thread James McDonald
Hi Folks,

Long time no post.

I have run Redhat for a while but RH8.0 seems to require a lot of extra 
additions as I mostly use Linux as an admin/chat/hack system not an 
office/games system which is what I think RH are aiming at with RH8.0.

I have switched to Mandrake 9.0 and was wondering if anyone can point me 
to how to bash script menu modifications... I like KDE3.0 but want to 
make my menu 'just the stuff I need, nothing that I don't' but as each 
reinstall means this has to be done again and Menuedit MenuDrake take a 
longtime to use... so I am wondering about installing/moving menu items 
via script

Any pointers would be much appreciated

James McD


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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?

Collins wrote:

> FYI,
> 
> A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is
> based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot or
> shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
> 
> The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
> 
> I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam support
> which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need his
> workaround for 1.22, let me know.
> 
> BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released because
> of
> work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo
> bugzilla #15660.
> 
> Enjoy,

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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Net Llama!
i don't think this was intentional.  do you happen to remember what the
filename was for your version?  we're still in the midst of the reorg, so
its possible that it was accidentally, or temporarily moved.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

> My Iomega Clik info was replaced. Although I see no problems with the
> replacement, I did not think mine was so very bad. OK, maybe a bit
> KDE-centric, but no one ever complained or asked for a less GUI version.
> It is not really a problem. I was just surprised at the change.
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:47:56 -0500 (EST)
> Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:45:17 -0800
> > > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > > > > Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them
> > > > > scream?
> > > >
> > > > i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)
> > > >
> > > > we do archive them, at least temporarily.  is there something
> > > > specific that you're looking for?
> > >
> > > A bit of both. If someone's SxS goes away (is replaced) perhaps a
> > > little note may be nice.
> >
> > We don't remove content unless one of the following occurs:
> > 1) Author requests that it be pulled
> > 2) Content is outdated, and author refuses to update the document, or
> > fails to respond to requests to update the document
> >
> > Is there something specific that you're looking for?
> >
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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
My Iomega Clik info was replaced. Although I see no problems with the
replacement, I did not think mine was so very bad. OK, maybe a bit
KDE-centric, but no one ever complained or asked for a less GUI version.
It is not really a problem. I was just surprised at the change.


On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:47:56 -0500 (EST)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:45:17 -0800
> > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > > > Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them
> > > > scream?
> > >
> > > i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)
> > >
> > > we do archive them, at least temporarily.  is there something
> > > specific that you're looking for?
> >
> > A bit of both. If someone's SxS goes away (is replaced) perhaps a
> > little note may be nice.
> 
> We don't remove content unless one of the following occurs:
> 1) Author requests that it be pulled
> 2) Content is outdated, and author refuses to update the document, or
> fails to respond to requests to update the document
> 
> Is there something specific that you're looking for?
> 
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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Terence McCarthy
 On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > > Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them
> > > scream?
> > 
> > i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)

Hey, open your own thread for one or the other! This is both!

I love this- it begs one to actually think about things- "In Space no-one can hear you 
scream!"

Do ideas die?  Does the internet offer some form of immortality through files stashed 
at random around the world, thus ensuring a real thread of history?

Please, can we have more discussion? I'd love the post-work, stressed-out palliative 
of reading, thinking (and perhaps replying)..

Syllogism.

Major Premise:
All things that live will die.

Minor Premise:
SXS Steps are alive.

Conclusion:
SXS Steps will die.

(Afterthought: will thay scream on dying, and will they be heard?)

I think we should be told!

Terence.

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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:45:17 -0800
> "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > > Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them
> > > scream?
> >
> > i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)
> >
> > we do archive them, at least temporarily.  is there something specific
> > that you're looking for?
>
> A bit of both. If someone's SxS goes away (is replaced) perhaps a little
> note may be nice.

We don't remove content unless one of the following occurs:
1) Author requests that it be pulled
2) Content is outdated, and author refuses to update the document, or
fails to respond to requests to update the document

Is there something specific that you're looking for?

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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:45:17 -0800
"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them
> > scream?
> 
> i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)
> 
> we do archive them, at least temporarily.  is there something specific 
> that you're looking for?

A bit of both. If someone's SxS goes away (is replaced) perhaps a little
note may be nice.


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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Net Llama!
On 02/20/03 00:44, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them scream?


i'm not sure if you're serious or joking :)

we do archive them, at least temporarily.  is there something specific 
that you're looking for?

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New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Collins
FYI,

A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is based 
on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot or 
shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.

The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/

I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam support 
which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need his 
workaround for 1.22, let me know.

BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released because of 
work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo 
bugzilla #15660.

Enjoy,
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wal-mart selling Linux

2003-02-20 Thread DOUGLAS HUNLEY
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20030219/tc_nm/tech_linux_walmart_dc


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Re: New Step

2003-02-20 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Where do dead SxS steps go when they die? Does anyone hear them scream?

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