Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:39:52 -0800
"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ok, that's a bit different than saying that there are various standards 
> for DVDs.  this is dvd recording standards.

No. There are different standards. Matthews point that a single DVD will be
able to read its own creation is correct. However, a different brand may
not, as it may use the other standard. As a minimum, get a player that
supports both standards.

For movie DVDs, look at:

http://www.dvdsite.org/

Look for the 'Format Wars' section:

http://www.osopinion.com/perl/printer/19159/


> On 03/13/03 14:52, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> > DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW  I believe.
> > 
> > I don't see a problem with using them as a backup medium where the same
> > device will be used to write and read them.  It's when you want
> > interoperability. I'm pretty sure my DVD player at home will not read
> > DVD+anything.
> > 
> > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:41 +0100
> > Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Aren't there two competing standards for recordable CDs? Some units
> >> support both. There is no clear 'winner' at this time. What are these
> >> standards, you ask, as you well may? My info ends at this point. We
> >were> looking into DVDs as a backup medium and decided against them. Not
> >just> because if the 'wide choice of standards', but because they are
> >really not> more convenient than, say, removable disks, or firewire
> >disks. But that is> another issue.
> 
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Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:52:50 -0500
Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW  I believe.
> 
> I don't see a problem with using them as a backup medium where the same
> device will be used to write and read them.  It's when you want
> interoperability. I'm pretty sure my DVD player at home will not read
> DVD+anything.

Exactly. Our backup scenario is that backups are make in vehicles zipping
about the planet, and these are sent to various offices and/or clients. So,
interoperability is a requirement. There is a very nice K backup suite that
we were considering using. But, being K, was not available for MS OS. We
could implement a nice backup system, but you needed the same software to
unpack it.

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Parallel Port - SUSE 8.1

[sjardine]

Hey all,

I installed SUSE 8.1 on a AMD Duron box. When I installed it, I had the
parallel stuff disabled in the BIOS. Now, I need to use the parallel port.

   I have enabled the parallel port in the BIOS to SPP, EPP, ECP, etc. I have
recompiled the kernel to support parport and the parallel port. When I try to
look in the YAST hardware configure stuff, no parallel port is listed. I have
so far not found a way to "configure it" from the "managers" provided with SUSE.

   I do see the parport driver loading from dmesg.

   I want to use the port for a parallel scanner. I am going to try it through
VMWARE and NT first. But, without it being recognized by the OS, I am not sure
VMWARE will be able to connect to it.

   First off, which mode do I use SPP, ECP, EPP, EPP+ECP? Second, which device
should I use? /dev/parport0?? Lastly, how do I get SUSE to acknowledge that the
parallel port exists - or do I have to?

   Thanks,


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Re: SuSE 8.1, ghostscript problems (xfig export).

[Bill Campbell]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:24:50PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:29:11 -0800
>Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I ran into a problem yesterday when attempting to export from xfig
>> into any graphics format (e.g. jpeg, gif, png) with a ghostscript
>> error.  I get the same error attempting to convert postscript or eps
>> exports from xfig to images using the ImageMagik ``convert'' program
>> so it appears to be ghostscript related.  The URL below is a screen
>> capture of the error dialog from xfig:
>> 
>>  http://www.celestial.com/images/tmpxfigerror.jpg
>
>have you tried to run the "command was:" line from a CLI?  perhaps gs
>will give you a little better hint when the error message isn't
>intercepted by xfig.

Yup.  Nothing but something cryptic about transparent.

>But if I had to guess, I suspect you have an unsupported device
>(sDEVICE=png16m), which is a pretty detailed png (24 bit).  You running
>24bit graphics or 16bit?

The same thing happens with gif and jpeg.  I compared the devicenames on
SuSE's against a Caldera 3.1.1 workstation install, and the openpkg install
of ghostscript, and SuSE's pretty much a superset of either of them.  The
wierd thing is that I can export properly from xfig under Caldera 3.1.1.

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Re: Problems with ssh solved, but mysterious

[Alan Jackson]

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:39:20 -0800
"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 03/12/03 20:06, Alan Jackson wrote:
> > I'm trying to get ssh to work for me. There must be something simple
> > I'm missing in the config or something. 
> > 
> > I ssh to my son's machine and log in as myself.
> > Then I turn around and try to ssh from his machine back to mine. I have my
> > port set up as 13045 so I can ssh through my router to my machine :
> > 
> > $ ssh -l ajackson -p 13045 -v earthman
> > It just doesn't like my password. I can't imagine why not.
> 
> i've seen this happen on systems where openssl got horked, or pam 
> support was messed up in the sshd binary.  try starting sshd with the -d 
> switch, which puts it into debug mode so that you'll get verbose 
> messaging on the server side of what is going on.
> 

Thank you!! PAM was complaining about authentication, so I looked at the /etc/shadow 
file
and to my surprise, my account had no password. I looked in /etc/passwd, same thing.
I have to use a password to log on, but I don't know where it is kept. I changed my
password to itself, that put it into /etc/shadow, and now it works. I'm running Col 
3.1.1.

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Re: File Type Not Supported

[Collins Richey]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:46:26 -0800
"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 03/13/03 13:28, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > I think I have a demented install.  I'm trying to mount a floppy drive and
> > it keeps telling me "File type not supported by kernel".  VFAT?!?  I thought
> > all modern kernels supported that.  Is there a simple (for the simple-minded
> > amongst us) way to get the kernel to support extra files systems?  A module
> > I can add or whatever?
> 
> msdos/windoze floppies are never vfat filesystems.  they're fat or msdos 
> filesystem.
> 

Is it possible you are trying to mount an uninitialized or corrupted floppy?

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OT:Tony Alfrey

[Randy Donohoe]

Got that in the mail today Tony.
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Re: Video capture

[Keith Antoine]

At 03:35 PM 13/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
If you're just doing video in, I've HEARD great things about the cheapo
Hauppauge WinTV card you can buy at Walmart and Best Buy.
I'm about to pick one up and test it out.  Otherwise I'm saving up my pennies
for a ATI AIW/RADEON card
I have recently purchased a Hauppauge tv 250 and it will not install with linux
as the drivers used are no longer BTxxx but as they replied to me:
Hi,
We are using ITVC15 conexan chip for your model. There is no Linux driver
for this model yet.
I wanted hardware mpeg2 encoding to keep everything synced, but I now find 
that the
pinnacle TV pro would have been the better buy as its bt based.

Keith Antoine

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Re: SuSE 8.1, ghostscript problems (xfig export).

[David A. Bandel]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:29:11 -0800
Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I ran into a problem yesterday when attempting to export from xfig
> into any graphics format (e.g. jpeg, gif, png) with a ghostscript
> error.  I get the same error attempting to convert postscript or eps
> exports from xfig to images using the ImageMagik ``convert'' program
> so it appears to be ghostscript related.  The URL below is a screen
> capture of the error dialog from xfig:
> 
>   http://www.celestial.com/images/tmpxfigerror.jpg

have you tried to run the "command was:" line from a CLI?  perhaps gs
will give you a little better hint when the error message isn't
intercepted by xfig.

But if I had to guess, I suspect you have an unsupported device
(sDEVICE=png16m), which is a pretty detailed png (24 bit).  You running
24bit graphics or 16bit?

[snip]

Ciao,

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Re: Recommendations on Terminal based email clients with IMAP support

[Bill Campbell]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 04:53:50PM -0800, Ken Moffat wrote:
>James McDonald wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I have been feeling cut off at work lately so I have moved my ssh port 
>> and now login to home from work with putty and use 
>> http://pebrot.sourceforge.net as a text based MSN client. I would also 
>> like to pick up my emails via the ssh session from another host inside 
>> my home network running the IMAP service.
>> 
>> What are your recommendations regarding terminal based mail clients with 
>> IMAP support?
>> 
>> I tried exported X sessions using gaim and mozilla-mail but they are too 
>> slow across the 256KB link I'm sharing.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> James McDonald
>
>have a look at mutt

I'll second that.

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Re: Recommendations on Terminal based email clients with IMAP support

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pine

On 03/13/03 16:37, James McDonald wrote:
Folks,

I have been feeling cut off at work lately so I have moved my ssh port 
and now login to home from work with putty and use 
http://pebrot.sourceforge.net as a text based MSN client. I would also 
like to pick up my emails via the ssh session from another host inside 
my home network running the IMAP service.

What are your recommendations regarding terminal based mail clients with 
IMAP support?

I tried exported X sessions using gaim and mozilla-mail but they are too 
slow across the 256KB link I'm sharing.
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Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

[Ken Moffat]

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
The coolest is that this hardware is great stuff.  It's inexpensive and it
runs well.  I've been very impressed with SuSE 8.1 on this machine... except
for the sissy-keyboard. :)
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Re: Recommendations on Terminal based email clients with IMAP support

[Ken Moffat]

James McDonald wrote:
Folks,

I have been feeling cut off at work lately so I have moved my ssh port 
and now login to home from work with putty and use 
http://pebrot.sourceforge.net as a text based MSN client. I would also 
like to pick up my emails via the ssh session from another host inside 
my home network running the IMAP service.

What are your recommendations regarding terminal based mail clients with 
IMAP support?

I tried exported X sessions using gaim and mozilla-mail but they are too 
slow across the 256KB link I'm sharing.

Thanks
James McDonald
have a look at mutt

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Re: File Type Not Supported

[Net Llama!]

On 03/13/03 13:28, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
Folks,

I think I have a demented install.  I'm trying to mount a floppy drive and
it keeps telling me "File type not supported by kernel".  VFAT?!?  I thought
all modern kernels supported that.  Is there a simple (for the simple-minded
amongst us) way to get the kernel to support extra files systems?  A module
I can add or whatever?
msdos/windoze floppies are never vfat filesystems.  they're fat or msdos 
filesystem.

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Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Net Llama!]

ok, that's a bit different than saying that there are various standards 
for DVDs.  this is dvd recording standards.

On 03/13/03 14:52, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW  I believe.

I don't see a problem with using them as a backup medium where the same device
will be used to write and read them.  It's when you want interoperability. 
I'm pretty sure my DVD player at home will not read DVD+anything.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:41 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Aren't there two competing standards for recordable CDs? Some units
support both. There is no clear 'winner' at this time. What are these
standards, you ask, as you well may? My info ends at this point. We were
looking into DVDs as a backup medium and decided against them. Not just
because if the 'wide choice of standards', but because they are really not
more convenient than, say, removable disks, or firewire disks. But that is
another issue.
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Recommendations on Terminal based email clients with IMAP support

[James McDonald]

Folks,

I have been feeling cut off at work lately so I have moved my ssh port 
and now login to home from work with putty and use 
http://pebrot.sourceforge.net as a text based MSN client. I would also 
like to pick up my emails via the ssh session from another host inside 
my home network running the IMAP service.

What are your recommendations regarding terminal based mail clients with 
IMAP support?

I tried exported X sessions using gaim and mozilla-mail but they are too 
slow across the 256KB link I'm sharing.

Thanks
James McDonald
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SuSE 8.1, ghostscript problems (xfig export).

[Bill Campbell]

I ran into a problem yesterday when attempting to export from xfig into any
graphics format (e.g. jpeg, gif, png) with a ghostscript error.  I get the
same error attempting to convert postscript or eps exports from xfig to
images using the ImageMagik ``convert'' program so it appears to be
ghostscript related.  The URL below is a screen capture of the error dialog
from xfig:

http://www.celestial.com/images/tmpxfigerror.jpg

BTW:  it seems strange to me that xfig isn't included in the SuSE 8.1
personal edition, only in Professional.  I would figure (no pun intended)
that xfig would be part of the desktop distribution.  I found this out when
I tried running xfig on a fresh install of the personal distribution to see
if perhaps I had buggered something on my development machine which is
running 8.1 Professional.

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Re: Video capture

[Matthew Carpenter]

SuSE 8.1 shows support for tons of chipset/devices.  I can't tell if any are
USB or otherwise.  I'm just looking in the YAST2 hardware module.

I'm sure linux-usb.org has more info

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:54:07 +0100
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> A card like this is probably what it will be. It is just that most of our
> systems do not have 4 free PCI slots, and we have 4 cameras to deal with.
> I do not even know if you can have 4 cards at a time. Maybe a video
> switcher will be part of the solution. But that requires user
> manipulation, which we try to avoid where possible. Luckily, our video
> stream contains a barcode at the top in the non-visible part of the image
> that tells, among other things, which camera the image is from.
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Re: address info / ldap question

[Matthew Carpenter]

I had recently made the commitment for the same.
I'm simply searching for the best (simple and compatible) way to maintain
these.
I DEFINITELY don't want to be typing in everything from scratch (including all
the LDAP fields) so I'm looking at a few web front-ends for LDAP.

In my opinion, OpenLDAP is the way to go.  I'm only hoping to find something
that makes it as easy as Novell makes NDS.


On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:57:58 +0100
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> 
> I am the happy maintainer of an address list for the parents in my
> daughter's class. For three or four years this has been a task passed on
> and on, with each making a new list, and the lists being all different and
> in various stated of correctness. We all, after all, have day jobs. We
> will also be 'together' for three more years.
> 
> I thought, why not get it in one place that we can all access? So, I have
> been thinking of OpenLDAP.
> 
> One guiding factor is that everyone uses a different e-mail program. There
> are at least 6 on four different platforms. Everyone is re-typing and
> re-typing. We are looking at OpenLook/Express, Eudora, Netscape, Mozilla,
> Kmail, Sylpheed, run on Windows, Mac (OS-9 and X), and Linux.
> 
> OpenLDAP seemed a better way to enter the info once and use it everywhere.
> Or, is it everywhere?
> 
> Any opinions about this? Better ideas? Suggestions for tools? 
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Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Matthew Carpenter]

DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW  I believe.

I don't see a problem with using them as a backup medium where the same device
will be used to write and read them.  It's when you want interoperability. 
I'm pretty sure my DVD player at home will not read DVD+anything.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:41 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Aren't there two competing standards for recordable CDs? Some units
> support both. There is no clear 'winner' at this time. What are these
> standards, you ask, as you well may? My info ends at this point. We were
> looking into DVDs as a backup medium and decided against them. Not just
> because if the 'wide choice of standards', but because they are really not
> more convenient than, say, removable disks, or firewire disks. But that is
> another issue.
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Re: Video capture

[Matthew Carpenter]

Thanks Roger.  This gives me some hope.  Any that you like more than others
for Linux usage?  I don't have firewire yet, but plan to in the next desktop
incantation.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:50:32 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes. I do tons of this with digital cameras (single images). It works ok.
> I have some issues with dma buffering and isochronous mode. It works as
> long as you play nice with the buffers... At 1280x960 we get 7.5 frames
> per second (400 Mbit, which is the common speed) and pick the ones that
> correspond to some distance criteria. Note that Apple's new laptop has an
> 800 Mbit firewire, and I have heard rumors of a 1600 mBit version in the
> works. So, just when USB 2.0 caught up in speed, firewire jumped ahead.
> 
> As to digital video ('continuous' images), this should work as well. The
> simplest application I have seen for it is called 'dvgrab', which is a
> simple command line app to save the video stream. But there are many
> ieee1394 video capture GUIs as well. Choose what suites your taste.
> 
> We wrote our own 'dcgrab' to provide a digital camera counterpart.
> 
> Be sure to check out: http://www.linux1394.org/
> 
> It tells all.
> 
> My only horror story is that ieee1394 storage devices do not work if your
> kernel is compiled for SMP, but you only have one processor. It is a known
> problem. You have been warned.
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RE: File Type Not Supported

[Condon Thomas A KPWA]

Roger Oberholtzer  typed thusly on
Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:45 PM:

> vfat support can be a kernel module. which may need to be
> loaded. To see what file systems your kernel supports:
> 
>   cat /proc/filesystems

I get:

ext2
nodev   proc
iso9660
nodev   devpts

Looks pretty limited to me.

> If it is not listed here, then try the next step. To see
> if it is a module on your system, check for an object
> called vfat.o: 
> 
>   find /lib/modules -name vfat.o

Nothing.  Hm.  So it isn't compiled in, nor available as a module.  That may
explain why it is so braindead in filesystems (can't support a bunch of
them).

> If you find a file called vfat.o, then it is a module and
> will need loading. If you don't find a module, it is
> either compiled in to the kernel (listed above) or not
> compiled at all... 
> 
> But, given the error message, I don't thint that is it.
> How are you trying to mount it?
> 
>   mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Via the fstab entry (to lazy to type that much most of the time).  The line
read:

/dev/sda  /fd   auto  noauto,user,sync  0 0

But it couldn't determine file type so I modified it to be vfat instead of
auto.

That was a pretty limited list for SuSE 7.3, so I did a check to see if it
had grabbed the LFS kernel by accident.  Nope, different dates and times and
sizes.  Rats!  Ah, well, rebuild is good for the soul.

Thanks, Roger.


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address info / ldap question

[Roger Oberholtzer]

I am the happy maintainer of an address list for the parents in my
daughter's class. For three or four years this has been a task passed on
and on, with each making a new list, and the lists being all different and
in various stated of correctness. We all, after all, have day jobs. We
will also be 'together' for three more years.

I thought, why not get it in one place that we can all access? So, I have
been thinking of OpenLDAP.

One guiding factor is that everyone uses a different e-mail program. There
are at least 6 on four different platforms. Everyone is re-typing and
re-typing. We are looking at OpenLook/Express, Eudora, Netscape, Mozilla,
Kmail, Sylpheed, run on Windows, Mac (OS-9 and X), and Linux.

OpenLDAP seemed a better way to enter the info once and use it everywhere.
Or, is it everywhere?

Any opinions about this? Better ideas? Suggestions for tools? 

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Matthew Carpenter]

I forgot to say what I orignally intended to:

SuSE 8.1 comes with GNUCash, KMyMoney, and I believe a couple other
$$$-managers.  I like the initial look of KMyMoney, but I haven't had the time
to play with it (not that I even understand the Quicken2000 I bought and never
used)

Anyone know anything about these two?  I used a Java money-manager a couple
years ago, but not either of these two.


On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:57:08 -0500
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> 
> Version 1.6.6. 
> Another example of why the warehouse is not really worth the money. The only
> thing I've gotten from it that seemed worth it was StarOffice.
> Joel
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Re: File Type Not Supported

[Roger Oberholtzer]

vfat support can be a kernel module. which may need to be loaded. To see what 
file systems your kernel supports:

cat /proc/filesystems

I get:

nodev   rootfs
nodev   bdev
nodev   proc
nodev   sockfs
nodev   tmpfs
nodev   shm
nodev   pipefs
nodev   binfmt_misc
ext3
ext2
nodev   ramfs
msdos
vfat
iso9660
nodev   devfs
nodev   nfs
nodev   autofs
nodev   devpts
nodev   usbdevfs
nodev   usbfs

If it is not listed here, then try the next step. To see if it is a module on 
your system, check for an object called vfat.o:

find /lib/modules -name vfat.o

If you find a file called vfat.o, then it is a module and will need loading. 
If you don't find a module, it is either compiled in to the kernel (listed 
above) or not compiled at all...

But, given the error message, I don't thint that is it. How are you trying to 
mount it?

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

would be my guess. I think the '-t vfat' can be left off. It seems to figure 
it out. But if it is vfat, it is never wrong to add it.

If this does not sort things out, then maybe it is not a vfat disk. On 
UnixWare (there, I said an SCO word) there was a utility to tell what file 
system was on a device, even if the OS could not mount it. I don't know of 
one, but there could very well be one for linux.

On Thursday 13 March 2003 22.28, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I think I have a demented install.  I'm trying to mount a floppy drive and
> it keeps telling me "File type not supported by kernel".  VFAT?!?  I
> thought all modern kernels supported that.  Is there a simple (for the
> simple-minded amongst us) way to get the kernel to support extra files
> systems?  A module I can add or whatever?
>
>
> In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,
>
> Tom  :-})
>
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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Matthew Carpenter]

I'll stick with SuSE 8.1 (man, it's still hard to hear myself saying that)...
although I have to admit, the Lindows guys did a pretty good job.  They
created an aesthetically pleasing distro which they can use to continue to
milk the Winblows nuts who are accustomed to paying big bucks for sucky
software :)

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:57:08 -0500
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> 
> Version 1.6.6. 
> Another example of why the warehouse is not really worth the money. The only
> thing I've gotten from it that seemed worth it was StarOffice.
> Joel
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Re: Apache Problem

[Brian Witowski]

Ok.  It was the path.  Thanks.

But now I have a different problem.  I like to manage Apache through Webmin.
But when I try to start apache from within the Webmin module, it says
"Failed to Start Apache", but doing ps -ax shows 5 instances of httpd.  In
addition, I can no longer get virtual hosts to work.  I can only get to the
default host.

Does anybody know of any issues with apache 2.x and webmin? (I'm running the
most current webmin).

brian


> Hi,
>
> I just upgraded to Apache 2.0.44 (from source) on a Caldera 3.1 Linux box.
> Installation went fine, however I no longer have a /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd
> file to launch httpd.  I did track down the /usr/local/apache2/apachectl
> file which appears to have the same function.

Using apachectl is the preferred way to start/stop Apache.

> In other words, typing in "./apachectl start" will start the daemon.  My
> problem is that I can't make it executable!  I have tried every 'chmod'
> combination possible.  I've tried chmod a+x and even that doesn't work.
It
> needs to have the "./" in front of it.

If your are in the /usr/local/apache2 directory you have to have the ./
in there so it knows to look in the current directory for the script. If
you are in a directory other than the /usr/local/apache2 directory
apachectl should work if you put /usr/local/apache2 in your path. Or you
can use the full path to apachectl.

If you want to start Apache at boot time stick
/usr/local/apache2/apachectl start in the /etc/rc.local file.

>
> Does this version NOT have the /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd script?  Why can't I
> make it executable?

Did you install Apache the first time during the install of the OS?  I
believe when I once used Apache from the default install of the OS it
had the /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd and other times when I compiled from
source it didn't.  That was awhile ago and my memory is no good.  YMMV.


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File Type Not Supported

[Condon Thomas A KPWA]

Folks,

I think I have a demented install.  I'm trying to mount a floppy drive and
it keeps telling me "File type not supported by kernel".  VFAT?!?  I thought
all modern kernels supported that.  Is there a simple (for the simple-minded
amongst us) way to get the kernel to support extra files systems?  A module
I can add or whatever?


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: Calling all DEPs

[Matthew Carpenter]

Perhaps a thousand AVAILABLE eyes is a better mantra.  It's not that everyone
is always doing code review on everyone's code.  But when it is needed, anyone
can look and fix.  Many people learn to code by looking at OSS code (and the
stuff I have personally reviewed has been pretty top-notch from a design
standpoint)


On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:31:11 -0800
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> I think that the odds are much higher of getting proper fixes to open
> source software than proprietary, particularly when the proprietary vendor
> has a long history of ``Kindergarten Cryptographer's Mistakes'', and who's
> actions have shown that security isn't the vendor's strong point.
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Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

[Matthew Carpenter]

The coolest is that this hardware is great stuff.  It's inexpensive and it
runs well.  I've been very impressed with SuSE 8.1 on this machine... except
for the sissy-keyboard. :)





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Re: idiocy

[Matthew Carpenter]

While I am very upset with this move, I would not be inclined to dismiss the
teeth of these allegations.
SCO owns code which was licensed to IBM for use in AIX.
IBM has been sinking HUGE assets and time and "mind-share" into Linux,
obviously hurting SCO in their "big-hitters".
It will probably be tough to prove that IBM has not misappropriated their
personnel such that people who have seen the code for certain Unix libraries
have worked on the betterment of Linux... in a way that violates their
license.
Scoff at the management of SCO for being so incredibly idiotic and childish,
but their lawsuit will no doubt make IBM stand up and take notice.
On the other hand, it may push IBM to take the final steps to get rid of AIX
in favor of Linux completely.  I'm sure their proprietary software isn't that
far away from being portable.



On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:23:03 -0500
Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If they win this, I have a 1986 Pontiax with a bad Carb I'll be willing to 
> sell to the judge the for a mere $10 million. The suit is so much marsh gas 
> and lawyer food. SCO is and has always been a loser. That's the only way
> that Ranson Love could squeeze enough out of Caldera to buy the turkey. At
> no time in its history has SCO been worth $1 billion let alone had sales
> anywhere near that. 
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Re: Calling all DEPs

[Bill Campbell]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 04:05:33PM -0500, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
>Perhaps a thousand AVAILABLE eyes is a better mantra.  It's not that everyone
>is always doing code review on everyone's code.  But when it is needed, anyone
>can look and fix.  Many people learn to code by looking at OSS code (and the
>stuff I have personally reviewed has been pretty top-notch from a design
>standpoint)

We could talk about the horrendous formatting of C code from the
FSF folks, but that would probably start another vi vs emacs war.

Bill
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Re: Video capture

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:35:19 -0500
Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you're just doing video in, I've HEARD great things about the cheapo
> Hauppauge WinTV card you can buy at Walmart and Best Buy.
> I'm about to pick one up and test it out.  Otherwise I'm saving up my
> pennies for a ATI AIW/RADEON card

A card like this is probably what it will be. It is just that most of our
systems do not have 4 free PCI slots, and we have 4 cameras to deal with.
I do not even know if you can have 4 cards at a time. Maybe a video
switcher will be part of the solution. But that requires user
manipulation, which we try to avoid where possible. Luckily, our video
stream contains a barcode at the top in the non-visible part of the image
that tells, among other things, which camera the image is from.

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:46:40 +0100
> Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > We already do firewire capture of digital cameras. And, I have seen a
> > device that converts a VHS signal into firewire digital video, but it
> > was more expensive than our target price. Times four.
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Re: Calling all DEPs

[Matthew Carpenter]

On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:53:27 +0800
Chong Yu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually, I've always had trouble buying into the "thousand eyes" 
> theory, because it assumes too much about the developer community. Call 
> me cynical, but I've seen too many instances of a really obvious problem 
> or contradiction escaping the eyes of a great many people, and I'm not 
> just talking about Linux here.

I can agree on that.  Not every line of code has even two people look at it. 
But it is a lot better than the alternative.  No eyes except some Microserf
trying to keep up with the rest of the behemoth to keep it fed.  No sir.  The
Sendmail vulnerability wasn't found by some hacker making a Code Red or Code
Blue to exploit it.  It was found by ISS, a security company, who was going
through a "routine code review".  Actually, I'd think less ideal things of him
on finding the Snort issue.  I'm thinking "competition" at that point.

> Security can be defined in many, many ways. And I don't think 
> certification alone is a "guarantee" of security, because certification 
> implies a series of tests, which must be standardized, by definition. 
> This does not allow for the kind of improvisations that are commonplace 
> on the Internet, and cannot possibly test every possible scenario, 
> present and future.

Unfortunately, a lot of the proprietary world can't wrap it's mind around
anything that doesn't cost big bucks.
Another example of trusting the money-sink.
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Re: Calling all DEPs

[Matthew Carpenter]

I doubt he would even understand or believe it.

On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:41:08 -0600
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> . I wonder if the author has the Balls to note that Win2k 
> then has the same flaw ?
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Re: Calling all DEPs

[Matthew Carpenter]

:)  (sorry, I've been largely offlist for a couple weeks)


On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:02:35 -0500
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> for the use of microsoft products is surely an act of 
> faith, don't you think?
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Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:46:20 -0500 (EST)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> > Point to keep in mind:
> >
> > With the variance in DVD standards, you may wish to consider burning
> > VCD's and SVCD's.  You should be able to find info about those
> > processes in an SxS.
> 
> can you elaborate on the 'DVD standards'?  i thought that the DVD was
> a standard.

Aren't there two competing standards for recordable CDs? Some units
support both. There is no clear 'winner' at this time. What are these
standards, you ask, as you well may? My info ends at this point. We were
looking into DVDs as a backup medium and decided against them. Not just
because if the 'wide choice of standards', but because they are really not
more convenient than, say, removable disks, or firewire disks. But that is
another issue.

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Re: KDE 3.0 URL popup

[Matthew Carpenter]

I'm sorry, but that annoying behavior is one that has vastly improved my
desktop usage.  Once in a while I'll not wish to use it, but most of the time
it is a lifesaver, and it is easily disabled.  I use it mainly because I use
Lotus Notes through Wine, and I don't want to bring up IE when I click on a
URL, so I highlight it and copy it to the clipboard.  This bring up my Klipper
popup.  I use it with sylpheed too, since I used to have problems clicking on
links there.




On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:06:47 -0500
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> It's in the right-click menu somewhere, Disable Actions or some such. 
> That annoying, intrusive behavior is gone in 3.1.x...
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Re: Video capture

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:32:28 -0500
Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm interested in this as well...  and also anyone's experience with
> IEEE1394 and Linux.

Yes. I do tons of this with digital cameras (single images). It works ok.
I have some issues with dma buffering and isochronous mode. It works as
long as you play nice with the buffers... At 1280x960 we get 7.5 frames
per second (400 Mbit, which is the common speed) and pick the ones that
correspond to some distance criteria. Note that Apple's new laptop has an
800 Mbit firewire, and I have heard rumors of a 1600 mBit version in the
works. So, just when USB 2.0 caught up in speed, firewire jumped ahead.

As to digital video ('continuous' images), this should work as well. The
simplest application I have seen for it is called 'dvgrab', which is a
simple command line app to save the video stream. But there are many
ieee1394 video capture GUIs as well. Choose what suites your taste.

We wrote our own 'dcgrab' to provide a digital camera counterpart.

Be sure to check out: http://www.linux1394.org/

It tells all.

My only horror story is that ieee1394 storage devices do not work if your
kernel is compiled for SMP, but you only have one processor. It is a known
problem. You have been warned.

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Dr. Jones]

I am starting to use Gnucash now and excited about 
it. What tax preparation programs are available to work with gnucash data? 

 
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Re: VCR tape to DVD

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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> Point to keep in mind:
>
> With the variance in DVD standards, you may wish to consider burning VCD's and
> SVCD's.  You should be able to find info about those processes in an SxS.

can you elaborate on the 'DVD standards'?  i thought that the DVD was
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Re: VCR tape to DVD

[Matthew Carpenter]

Point to keep in mind:

With the variance in DVD standards, you may wish to consider burning VCD's and
SVCD's.  You should be able to find info about those processes in an SxS.


On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:28:00 -0500
Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure if I should post this to general or not, but here goes...
> Anyone know of a way to copy from VCR tape to DVD using a PC DVD writer?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
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Re: Video capture

[Matthew Carpenter]

If you're just doing video in, I've HEARD great things about the cheapo
Hauppauge WinTV card you can buy at Walmart and Best Buy.
I'm about to pick one up and test it out.  Otherwise I'm saving up my pennies
for a ATI AIW/RADEON card



On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:46:40 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We already do firewire capture of digital cameras. And, I have seen a device
> that converts a VHS signal into firewire digital video, but it was more
> expensive than our target price. Times four.
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Re: Video capture

[Matthew Carpenter]

I'm interested in this as well...  and also anyone's experience with IEEE1394
and Linux.

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:24:02 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Anyone know of a USB device to do video capture that works with Linux? I
> thought this would be easy to find, but I seem to find nothing. Lots of
> doodads with cameras, but I have the camera. I checked the linux usb site
> and may just be missing the obvious.
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Re: USB camera won't mount:Partially solved

[Matthew Carpenter]

Could this be at all related to OHCI vs UHCI?
This is an area I'm still a bit unclear about and could use some correction.

Thanks,
Matt
(still working on my own digital camera crap.  I think GPhoto hosed the driver
for my camera, since it works under COL with gphoto 0.4.x and not with the
gPhoto2's new structure)


On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:41:05 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Well, I took the camera to work, loaded up knoppix, and the thang mounted
> automatically on boot up and the transfers went without problem and about
> 10x as fast as on my computer at home. Hurray for knoppix. You the man!
> 
> So, it looks like my fooling aroung with glibc and gcc and whatever
> mangeled my system. (Or the usb hardware is failing.) I may have
> to recompile everything, but, my compiler isn't working on that box
> anymore. This sounds like upgrade time. Sigh. This server serves windows
> and linux to other boxes. Ugh. Talk about the evils of a central server!
> 
> Joel
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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tom Wilson]

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 09:00, Tim Wunder wrote:
> On 3/13/2003 8:52 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote:

> > I don't know how to do it!  :-)  I just use it to pay bills and keep
> > track of the checking account and I tried to set up all those accounts
> > to pull out of this one to go into that one and it just confused the
> > hell out of me.  I tried walking through the tutorial but didn't make it
> > through.  Maybe I'll try again.
> > 
> 
> This one?
> http://www.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/
> 

No.  I was using the on-line help in program.  It might be the same
though.  I'll look through it.  Thanks for the link.  

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tim Wunder]

On 3/13/2003 8:52 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 08:47, Tim Wunder wrote:

On 3/13/2003 8:42 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote:

Is there a way to get Gnucash to function without the double
accounting?  I liked the earlier version before they went to double
entry but I can't get them to install on my box.
No, double-entry accounting is pretty much the main feature of gnucash. 
What is it that you don't like about it?

Tim


I don't know how to do it!  :-)  I just use it to pay bills and keep
track of the checking account and I tried to set up all those accounts
to pull out of this one to go into that one and it just confused the
hell out of me.  I tried walking through the tutorial but didn't make it
through.  Maybe I'll try again.
This one?
http://www.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/


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Re: Odd file problem

[dep]

fyi, it's bug 197 in the xfs bugzilla list:
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/mail_archive/200211/msg00385.html
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re: Odd file problem

[dep]

this is what the xfs.txt file has to say about it:

+#defineEWRONGFSEINVAL/* Mount with wrong filesystem type */
+
+/*
+ * XXX EFSCORRUPTED needs a real value in errno.h. asm-i386/errno.h 
won't
+ * return codes out of its known range in errno.
+ * XXX Also note: needs to be < 1000 and fairly unique on Linux 
(mustn't
+ * conflict with any code we use already or any code a driver may 
use)
+ * XXX Some options (currently we do #2):
+ *1/ New error code ["Filesystem is corrupted", _after_ glibc 
updated]
+ *2/ 990 ["Unknown error 990"]
+ *3/ EUCLEAN ["Structure needs cleaning"]
+ *4/ Convert EFSCORRUPTED to EIO [just prior to return into 
userspace]
+ */
+#define EFSCORRUPTED990/* Filesystem is corrupted */
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Re: Odd file problem

[dep]

begin  David A. Bandel's  quote:
| OK folks, this is weird:

you are using XFS? unknown error 990 is an XFS thing -- you might want 
to grep your syslog for EFSCORRUPTED.

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tom Wilson]

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 08:47, Tim Wunder wrote:
> On 3/13/2003 8:42 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote:
> > Is there a way to get Gnucash to function without the double
> > accounting?  I liked the earlier version before they went to double
> > entry but I can't get them to install on my box.
> > 
> 
> No, double-entry accounting is pretty much the main feature of gnucash. 
> What is it that you don't like about it?
> 
> Tim

I don't know how to do it!  :-)  I just use it to pay bills and keep
track of the checking account and I tried to set up all those accounts
to pull out of this one to go into that one and it just confused the
hell out of me.  I tried walking through the tutorial but didn't make it
through.  Maybe I'll try again.

Thanks.

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tim Wunder]

On 3/13/2003 8:42 AM, someone claiming to be Tom Wilson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 08:03, Tim Wunder wrote:

In fairness to Lindows, gnucash 1.8.0 was just released in February. 
It's currently at 1.8.2, and some things are broken still (not badly 
broken, but broken none-the-less). Scheduled Transactions being one of 
the broken features. They work, mostly, and I use them heavily (I've 
been using gnucash from CVS for months, specifically for the SX's), but 
there's a minor problem with the transactions not being exactly valid. 
And SX's don't work with the Postgres backend, yet (but the pg backend 
is not the default and you need to jump thru some hoops to get it to work).


Is there a way to get Gnucash to function without the double
accounting?  I liked the earlier version before they went to double
entry but I can't get them to install on my box.
No, double-entry accounting is pretty much the main feature of gnucash. 
What is it that you don't like about it?

Tim

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tim Wunder]

On 3/13/2003 8:25 AM, someone claiming to be Rick Sivernell wrote:
   Tried to install gnucash last night, guile went in ok, gwrap failed
on make. Also from what I read, you need most generally have gnome on
your machine. Is this true?
cheers



Yes, gnome is required, version 1.4, gnome 2 will not work. Work is 
starting on a gnome 2 port within gnucash, but it isn't very far along. 
I don't even think it'll compile, yet. A separate project (kuickmoney) 
has been started to create a KDE3 front-end to the gnucash engine, but 
it's a one-man operation so far.

What version of gnucash are you trying to compile?
What platform?
What is the error output of the attempt to compile g-wrap?
Regards,
Tim
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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tom Wilson]

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 08:03, Tim Wunder wrote:
> In fairness to Lindows, gnucash 1.8.0 was just released in February. 
> It's currently at 1.8.2, and some things are broken still (not badly 
> broken, but broken none-the-less). Scheduled Transactions being one of 
> the broken features. They work, mostly, and I use them heavily (I've 
> been using gnucash from CVS for months, specifically for the SX's), but 
> there's a minor problem with the transactions not being exactly valid. 
> And SX's don't work with the Postgres backend, yet (but the pg backend 
> is not the default and you need to jump thru some hoops to get it to work).

Is there a way to get Gnucash to function without the double
accounting?  I liked the earlier version before they went to double
entry but I can't get them to install on my box.

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Rick Sivernell]

Tim 


   Tried to install gnucash last night, guile went in ok, gwrap failed
on make. Also from what I read, you need most generally have gnome on
your machine. Is this true?

cheers



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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Tim Wunder]

In fairness to Lindows, gnucash 1.8.0 was just released in February. 
It's currently at 1.8.2, and some things are broken still (not badly 
broken, but broken none-the-less). Scheduled Transactions being one of 
the broken features. They work, mostly, and I use them heavily (I've 
been using gnucash from CVS for months, specifically for the SX's), but 
there's a minor problem with the transactions not being exactly valid. 
And SX's don't work with the Postgres backend, yet (but the pg backend 
is not the default and you need to jump thru some hoops to get it to work).

Then again, the latest 1.6.x version is 1.6.8, released in August of 2002...
http://www.gnucash.org/pub/gnucash/sources/stable/
On 3/13/2003 6:57 AM, someone claiming to be Joel Hammer wrote:
Version 1.6.6. 
Another example of why the warehouse is not really worth the money. The only
thing I've gotten from it that seemed worth it was StarOffice.
Joel

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 02:19:35AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:

On Wednesday 12 March 2003 9:22 pm, someone claiming to be Joel Hammer wrote:

I have gnucash installed (painlessly) on my lindows box.
It looks nice and quicken like but before I spend time on it, I would like
to have other's opinions about it. Is it worth using?
One specific question I have. Looking through the manual and messing
around a bit with gnucash, I didn't see any mention of a calendar like
quicken has for scheduling or reviewing transactions. Is there one?
Gnucash 1.8.x has scheduled transactions. Not exactly the same as what quicken 
has, but close. No calender, per se, and no budgeting (yet). But you can 
create repeating, scheduled transactions with it.

What version of gnucash is installed by Lindows?

Regards, 
Tim

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Re: Gnucash: Opinions please

[Joel Hammer]

Version 1.6.6. 
Another example of why the warehouse is not really worth the money. The only
thing I've gotten from it that seemed worth it was StarOffice.
Joel

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 02:19:35AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 9:22 pm, someone claiming to be Joel Hammer wrote:
> > I have gnucash installed (painlessly) on my lindows box.
> > It looks nice and quicken like but before I spend time on it, I would like
> > to have other's opinions about it. Is it worth using?
> >
> > One specific question I have. Looking through the manual and messing
> > around a bit with gnucash, I didn't see any mention of a calendar like
> > quicken has for scheduling or reviewing transactions. Is there one?
> >
> 
> Gnucash 1.8.x has scheduled transactions. Not exactly the same as what quicken 
> has, but close. No calender, per se, and no budgeting (yet). But you can 
> create repeating, scheduled transactions with it.
> 
> What version of gnucash is installed by Lindows?
> 
> Regards, 
> Tim
> 
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