Re: More Apache issues

[Kurt Wall]

An unnamed Administration source, Brian Witowski, wrote:
% Greets,

EHLO.

% Since upgrading to Apache 2.0.44, a few things appear to not work any
% longer.  For instance, trying to start apache from withing Webmin no longer
% works.  I've looked at the paths in the module configuration and everything
% appears to be in order.  It gives a message "Failed to start apache", but
% upon doing a ps -ax, I have 6 httpd's running.  So it appears that it is in
% fact running.  Which is fine.  But since the Webmin module thinks it failed,
% I never get the the 'Stop Apached' option, or 'Restart' option for that
% matter.

I believe this has to do with Webmin trying to scribble in or read
from a pid file (normally stored in /var/run). We encountered a similar
problem at Caldera, and it turned out to be that Webmin was looking
in one location for a pid file and the upgraded Apache was putting
the pid file in a different location. After getting Apache and Webmin
on the same page in terms of where to look for the pid file, everything
was fine. The Apache directive `PidFile' will tell you where Apache
puts it, so make sure Webmin is looking in the same place for the
same file.

% Also, if I attempt to set up virtual hosts (name, not address), it ignores
% the virtual hosts and will only allow me to access the default host.  I had
% two virtual hosts working prior to upgrading.  I have given the aliases 'C'
% records in bind configuration etc.

Can't help you here.

% Any pointers or info on using apache 2.x with Webmin 1.070?

http://www.webmin.com/ ? :-)

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Re: Simple security question

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Anyone can acccess your system through port 6000 unless you set up some 
security.

Collins Richey wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:33:08 -0500
> Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> Port 6000 allows anyone to attach to your X-server.
> 
> And the effect of this would be?  I'm not trying to be a wise ass, I just
> don't understand all of this.
> 
>> xdmcp also allows people to get a login screen to your box.
>> Anybody could dump stuff to your printer, too.
>> 
>> I do not know what is listening to 32768. I do not know what wdm is.
> 
> wdm is the login manager (an extended xdm)
>> 
>> If you want, I could run nmap against your server for your. This stuff
> 
> cool.
> 
>> is all easy to hide from the world, BTW.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>> Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 06:45:09PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
>> > Simple security question.  I don't do anything special for security,
>> > but I got curious enough to issue `lsof -i` just for grins.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
>> > lpd  997   lp6u  IPv4   2805   TCP *:printer (LISTEN)
>> > wdm 1146 root4u  IPv4   3243   UDP *:xdmcp
>> > wdm 1146 root5u  IPv4   3244   TCP *:32768 (LISTEN)
>> > X   1149 root1u  IPv4   3249   TCP *:6000 (LISTEN)
>> > wdm 1150 root5u  IPv4   3244   TCP *:32768 (LISTEN)
>> > 
>> > Given the few ports that are actually listening, do I have much to
>> > worry about?
>> > 
> 
> --
> Collins

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Re: File Type Not Supported

[Kurt Wall]

An unnamed Administration source, Condon Thomas A KPWA, wrote:

[...]
 
% Your mind may get slippery when you get older, too, Lonnie.  Although, you
% won't have gone to college in the 60's, which no doubt contributed.  ;-}>

I tried to make up for that in the 70s and 80s. With some success,
I might add.

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Re: Simple security question

[Joel Hammer]

They could talk to your xserver. A smart, bad guy might make some hay on
that.
Joel
> > Port 6000 allows anyone to attach to your X-server.
> 
> And the effect of this would be?  I'm not trying to be a wise ass, I just don't 
> understand all of this.

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Re: Simple security question

[Collins Richey]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:33:08 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes.
> 
> Port 6000 allows anyone to attach to your X-server.

And the effect of this would be?  I'm not trying to be a wise ass, I just don't 
understand all of this.

> xdmcp also allows people to get a login screen to your box.
> Anybody could dump stuff to your printer, too.
> 
> I do not know what is listening to 32768. I do not know what wdm is.

wdm is the login manager (an extended xdm)
> 
> If you want, I could run nmap against your server for your. This stuff

cool.

> is all easy to hide from the world, BTW.
> 
> Joel
> 
> Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 06:45:09PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
> > Simple security question.  I don't do anything special for security, but I got 
> > curious enough to issue `lsof -i` just for grins.
> > 
> > 
> > COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
> > lpd  997   lp6u  IPv4   2805   TCP *:printer (LISTEN)
> > wdm 1146 root4u  IPv4   3243   UDP *:xdmcp 
> > wdm 1146 root5u  IPv4   3244   TCP *:32768 (LISTEN)
> > X   1149 root1u  IPv4   3249   TCP *:6000 (LISTEN)
> > wdm 1150 root5u  IPv4   3244   TCP *:32768 (LISTEN)
> > 
> > Given the few ports that are actually listening, do I have much to worry about?
> > 

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Re: CONSIDER IT

[Bob Hemus]

ronnie gauthier wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:41:42 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote the following
Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote the following

Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT


On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:

Net Llama! wrote:


[snip]

root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
as an exercise for the reader.
so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?
not at all.
is that no honey or no flies?
yes  :)



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Re: Sound Servers on Linux - What the?

[Brett I. Holcomb]

You're welcome.  At least you had a good excuse - I had only stupidity .

James McDonald wrote:

> Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> 
>>Some apps, such as XMMS depend on the audio coming from the CD to the
>>sound
>>card through the cable.  I found that out when my XMMS did not work on CDs
>>- I had the CD in the drive with no cable!
>>  
>>
> Right you are, I pulled the cover off my box and found the cable had
> done the  on me.
> 
> Dug one up and now it's fine. I just assumed that it would do a software
> transfer doh!!
> 
> Thanks for all the help folks
> 
> Go linux-users team!!

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Re: [OT] RE: idiocy

[Harry G]

On Monday 17 March 2003 12:57 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
> Harry G  typed thusly on Saturday, March 15, 2003
>
> 1:15 PM:
> > The only problem I see is that unless the lawyer feels
> > the loser will have a lot of capital to loose, they won't
> > want to bother with the case, but it would be a major
> > improvment.
>
> And why would it be a problem if lawyers wouldn't bother with frivolous
> lawsuits?
>
Good point!

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Re: CONSIDER IT

[ronnie gauthier]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:41:42 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote the following
Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT

>On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama!
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote the following
>> Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT
>>
>> >On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
>> >> Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
>> >> > > Net Llama! wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> [snip]
>> >> >
>> >> > root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
>> >> > as an exercise for the reader.
>> >>
>> >> so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?
>> >
>> >not at all.
>>
>> is that no honey or no flies?
>
>yes  :)
>

you should go into politics ;)
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Re: CONSIDER IT

[Net Llama!]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote the following
> Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT
>
> >On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
> >> Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
> >> > > Net Llama! wrote:
> >> > >
> >> [snip]
> >> >
> >> > root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
> >> > as an exercise for the reader.
> >>
> >> so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?
> >
> >not at all.
>
> is that no honey or no flies?

yes  :)

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Re: CONSIDER IT

[ronnie gauthier]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote the following
Re: Re: CONSIDER  IT

>On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
>> Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
>> > > Net Llama! wrote:
>> > >
>> [snip]
>> >
>> > root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
>> > as an exercise for the reader.
>>
>> so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?
>
>not at all.

is that no honey or no flies?
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Re: CONSIDER IT

[Net Llama!]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
> Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
> > > Net Llama! wrote:
> > >
> [snip]
> >
> > root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
> > as an exercise for the reader.
>
> so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?

not at all.

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Re: CONSIDER IT

[David A. Bandel]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:52 -0500 (EST)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
> > Net Llama! wrote:
> >
[snip]
> 
> root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left
> as an exercise for the reader.

so you're running a honeypot, huh?  Catch any flies yet?

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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RE: File Type Not Supported

[Net Llama!]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
>
> Roger Oberholtzer  typed thusly on Friday, March 14,
> 2003 12:20 AM:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:46:26 -0800
> > "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> msdos/windoze floppies are never vfat filesystems.
> >> they're fat or msdos filesystem.
> >
> > OK. But on a certain linux distro I still use, the floppy
> > I just mounted is identified as bring vfat. It is a dos
> > boot floppy. So, I guess it depends who makes the disk.
> > But it is readable from DOS/Windows.
>
> The floppy was formatted and written on a Win2K machine.  The fstab entry
> was "auto" until that didn't work so I tried vfat.  I may have been thinking
> of my zip disks when I tried vfat.
>
> Your mind may get slippery when you get older, too, Lonnie.  Although, you
> won't have gone to college in the 60's, which no doubt contributed.  ;-}>

i wasn't even *alive* in the 60s, much less in school  :)

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RE: File Type Not Supported

[Condon Thomas A KPWA]

Roger Oberholtzer  typed thusly on Friday, March 14,
2003 12:20 AM:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:46:26 -0800
> "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> msdos/windoze floppies are never vfat filesystems. 
>> they're fat or msdos filesystem.
> 
> OK. But on a certain linux distro I still use, the floppy
> I just mounted is identified as bring vfat. It is a dos
> boot floppy. So, I guess it depends who makes the disk.
> But it is readable from DOS/Windows. 

The floppy was formatted and written on a Win2K machine.  The fstab entry
was "auto" until that didn't work so I tried vfat.  I may have been thinking
of my zip disks when I tried vfat.

Your mind may get slippery when you get older, too, Lonnie.  Although, you
won't have gone to college in the 60's, which no doubt contributed.  ;-}>


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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[OT] RE: idiocy

[Condon Thomas A KPWA]

Harry G  typed thusly on Saturday, March 15, 2003
1:15 PM:

> The only problem I see is that unless the lawyer feels
> the loser will have a lot of capital to loose, they won't
> want to bother with the case, but it would be a major
> improvment. 

And why would it be a problem if lawyers wouldn't bother with frivolous
lawsuits?


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: CONSIDER IT

[Net Llama!]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, James McDonald wrote:
> Net Llama! wrote:
>
> > On 03/16/03 13:35, James McDonald wrote:
> >
> >> uka kalu wrote:
> >>
> >>> FROM:Mr.UKA KALU,
> >>> AUDITING AND ACCOUNTING UNIT
> >>> ECO BANK PLC OF NIGERIA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Sounds kosher where do I sign?
> >
> >
> > please contact me with your bank account information for this most
> > discrete opportunity.
> >
> OK just send me the root password to one of your internet connected
> boxes and it's a deal :)

root password is root.  determining which server this works on is left as
an exercise for the reader.

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Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

[Net Llama!]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Ian Stephen wrote:
> Not exactly a Linux question, but I am going to be building a few
> low-budget Linux PC's for the family so...
>
> Is one brand of ram as good as the next or does it make a difference
> whose ram one buys?

There is most definitely a difference, and its quality.  Like just about
all hardware, there are design specifications that memory must have if its
can be called PC133 or DDR2100.  Some manufacturers cut corners, or do not
test as thoroughly to ensure compliance.  This is the type of stuff that
memtest86 catches.  If you're looking for high quality & reliable memory,
i'd strongly recommend Corsair (or just about anything with a Samsung
chipset).  Veritium is also pretty good.  Any of the crap that Crucial
sells is mega-mass produced throwaway stuff that tends to produce
significantly higher numbers of errors & fails
signififcantly sooner catostrophically over time.

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Re: More Apache issues

[Tom Wilson]

Not sure about your specific problem but you could try 
http://www.webmin.com/apache.html.  Also a google of apache and webmin
revealed some similar problems you mentioned. 

--Tom Wilson


On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 09:34, Brian Witowski wrote:
> Greets,
> 
> Since upgrading to Apache 2.0.44, a few things appear to not work any
> longer.  For instance, trying to start apache from withing Webmin no longer
> works.  I've looked at the paths in the module configuration and everything
> appears to be in order.  It gives a message "Failed to start apache", but
> upon doing a ps -ax, I have 6 httpd's running.  So it appears that it is in
> fact running.  Which is fine.  But since the Webmin module thinks it failed,
> I never get the the 'Stop Apached' option, or 'Restart' option for that
> matter.
> 
> Also, if I attempt to set up virtual hosts (name, not address), it ignores
> the virtual hosts and will only allow me to access the default host.  I had
> two virtual hosts working prior to upgrading.  I have given the aliases 'C'
> records in bind configuration etc.
> 
> Any pointers or info on using apache 2.x with Webmin 1.070?
> 
> Brian
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Re: CONSIDER IT

[James McDonald]

Net Llama! wrote:

On 03/16/03 13:35, James McDonald wrote:

uka kalu wrote:

FROM:Mr.UKA KALU,
AUDITING AND ACCOUNTING UNIT
ECO BANK PLC OF NIGERIA.
 

Sounds kosher where do I sign?


please contact me with your bank account information for this most 
discrete opportunity.

OK just send me the root password to one of your internet connected 
boxes and it's a deal :)

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Re: Sound Servers on Linux - What the?

[James McDonald]

Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

Some apps, such as XMMS depend on the audio coming from the CD to the sound 
card through the cable.  I found that out when my XMMS did not work on CDs 
- I had the CD in the drive with no cable!
 

Right you are, I pulled the cover off my box and found the cable had 
done the  on me.

Dug one up and now it's fine. I just assumed that it would do a software 
transfer doh!!

Thanks for all the help folks

Go linux-users team!!







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