Re: Questions about CygWin's XFree86 environment
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it. Of course, its a moot point now :) I woke up this morning to find 0 Bytes Free on C: in Win2K so I bailed out a bunch of unecessary junk. CygWin went. Why do I need a Windows based solution when I can have the real thing :) Tyler PS: Anyone have any thoughts as to when Mandrake 9.0 will be coming out? On 8 Jul 2002 at 6:34, David A. Bandel wrote: > On 7 Jul 2002 20:54:05 -0600 > begin "Tyler Regas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/07/07/1227202.shtml?tid=104 > > > > I noticed this item on /. and installed the app in my Win2K > > installation. It works, but no paths are recognized, it doesn't ask me > > to log in, and I can't run much of anything. I installed XFree86 using > > the install app. I was able to install Windowmaker using a shell script > > from inside the console. Nothing else seems to work and there's > > practically no basic documentation for this, at least that I can find. > > > > Does anyone know how to use this thing? > > should be a way to do something along the lines of: > X -query > > and get the xdm/kdm/gdm screen from for a login across the > network. > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel > -- > Focus on the dream, not the competition. > -- Nemesis Racing Team motto > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Questions about CygWin's XFree86 environment
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/07/07/1227202.shtml?tid=104 I noticed this item on /. and installed the app in my Win2K installation. It works, but no paths are recognized, it doesn't ask me to log in, and I can't run much of anything. I installed XFree86 using the install app. I was able to install Windowmaker using a shell script from inside the console. Nothing else seems to work and there's practically no basic documentation for this, at least that I can find. Does anyone know how to use this thing? Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: PDA's
Not to plug my own site, at least not much, but I just posted a story on PDA HandyMan about Macromedia and Opera signing an agreement to let Opera expand Flash capabilities in its embedded Opera. Embedded Opera, BTW, is what is in your Zaurus :) Check it out at http://www.pdahandyman.com I'd like to get your extended impressions on the device. I've not had an opportunity yet to get any hands on time with one (Sharp PR is a real PITA when it comes to review units). Message me privately, so we can get this off list. Tyler On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:59:01 -0700 (PDT) "stayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, > > I took the plunge and bought a Linux based PDA. The Sharp Zaurus. > Seems interesting so far. I know its late to ask but anyone have any > tid bits on this animal? > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas listmanager AT writerbase DOT com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lindows comes to walmart
> Now just "why" would I want to receive a warning message every time I > need to make a change as root? If I'm running as root, I'd damn well > better know what I'm doing, otherwise I shouldn't be doing it. That > solution reminds me of a paperclip that always tried to offer advice. > Stupid users that are unable to make a decision without being prompted > with "are you sure?" should either seek more training or a different > occupation. I sure wouldn't want a doctor or mechanic that needed to be > prompted with that. And yes, the information, financial records, credit > reports and other data can be just as important as a doctor's scalpel or > a mechanic's wrench. Can you imagine someone's investment portfolio > suddenly disappearing because everyone had root? VMware Workstation offers warnings on all operations that can be disabled when the user is familiar with everything. There is also an option to turn them all off at once. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there was an option in the console install that turned it off before it ever showed the first warning. This is just me, oc, but I don't find that to be anything like that damned paperclip. VMware Workstation is considered a tool for professionals. The very same professionals that you claim don't want warnings for everything. Its very likely they don't, but continued experience with a system is required before even the smartest admin doesn't need help anymore. Using your doctor reference... Imagine if a doctor was using a laser to correct your vision and that the slightest mistake would leave you blind. When the doctor sets the coordinates or whatever they set into the system, would you want him or her to just blindly click the "Burn" button, confident that despite their humanity they never make mistakes, or would it make you feel better if they were required to doublecheck all of their settings against your needs before proceeding? Is your sight worth an additional minute or two? I don't make this argument because I don't understand. I make it because we need to develop interfaces (which doesn't necessarily mean GUI) that work with whomever gets on the system. Nobody, even an admin, should be allowed to destroy an entire installation because they have the priviledges to edit config files. This is bad design. In another light, would you feel slighted or shut out if you were disallowed from changing a LILO or GRUB configuration parameter that would cause the system to no longer work? Would it not be enough to be able to modify LILO or GRUB to boot in various ways without having access to damaging alterations? Maybe you're right. Maybe I just don't get it... > > Not a slam, just trying to help you "grasp the idea" from the other > point of view. Not taken as such. :) -- Tyler Regas listmanager AT writerbase DOT com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lindows comes to walmart
> Nothing wrong as running as root except: > > 1. Those viruses will run with root priviledge, too. You should at least > read your email as a regular user. Fine. Can it be made to work seamlessly? What if there were a sub-root account that all apps ran in. Sort of a reverse su. > 2. You can alter crucial system files without wanting to. Is it impossible to add a checks and balances system to this? Don't admins want warnings on occasion? While not blowing their horn, MS seems to be able to create installers and other processes that can be easily modified to run without user interaction. > 3. It makes a mockery out of the concept of a multiuser computer system. How? Why should there have to be a single, all-powerful user that installs and other administration functions are limited to? Why can't a multi-user system allow all users to do as they wish with their settings? A real multi-user system should allow a user to do anything they wish with their user environment while protecting the domains of others. If I turn my install to shit I should be able to restore it from some ubiquitous backup without affecting the other users. This, oc, is a pipe dream, at least for now :) > That said, I can easily see the advantage of running always as root. I guess > Microsoft saw them, too. That's why they are so successful. MS is not successful because they understand the single-user environment. They are successful because they have no scruples in their business practices. > Joel > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas listmanager AT writerbase DOT com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: lindows comes to walmart
> it reportedly has the user run constantly as root. I never understood that. It must be from my years on single-user systems. I just can't grasp the idea that running a Linux box as a single user so dramatically places said user in catastrophe's way. I do it all the time. I never set up additional users. Not once have I done anything that I couldn't have done as a user and no unauthorized persons have ever gained access to my machine. There's really no reason why a person should not be able to run as root and still receive warnings about what they might do. It all really comes down to user interface. Then again, if the coder doesn't want to add these friendly aspects and count on the user being so savvy as to question everything while providing little to no documentation, there's nothing I can do to stop that. I'll simply use another tool. That raises the question of where the line is for Linux as a fringe OS and when it becomes a mainstream OS. If Linux developers keep creating powerful but painful programs that assume the end user will compile the code, install required libraries, and run it from a console then Linux will never have a chance at the desktop. And to assume that systems adminitrators don't appreciate a little helping GUI hand is a mistake. The quicker an admin can get his job done and keep endusers from breathing down his/her neck and the more money he/she can make as a result, the happier they will be. Of course, the argument lies with the size and added complexity of UI libraries to run all this nice looking stuff, but there are a number of slim solutions. I must be damned lucky to never have had a serious problem because I ran in root. In fact, the largest problems have come from testing the kernel upgrade in the Mandrake GUI designed for end users. In early iterations of the Ximian GNOME desktop installer it ate the X config, forcing you to login via console. These are two examples of a helping GUI doing dastardly things, and they require root access. This would have happened even if I'd su'd in to do it. Just my $0.23.5 :) -- Tyler Regas listmanager AT writerbase DOT com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake Update Problem
> A short while back there was a lot of traffic on the mandrake lists > about people hosing their systems trying to update a kernel using > mandrake update. They have to be installed, not upgraded. Mandrake > update is supposed to install it rather than upgrade it, but usually it > screws up. It might be fixed in 8.2, but I don't know, and I'm not brave > enough to find out. Sounds like a bug in the updater. If I can ever get Mandrake to call me back, I'll tell them :) > What's so hard about downloading a kernel and 'rpm -ivh' anyway? You > can't use linux and never expect to use the cli. If you do, you'll no > doubt eventually run into a problem that you can't fix with a gui. And > what happens if you lose your gui? And don't say it can't happen. It > happened to me just recently. I upgraded to mdk 8.2 and found out that > XFree 4.2 doesn't like my video card. You have to be able to overcome > that stuff. There's nothing hard about downloading and updating the kernel from a console. In fact, there's nothing hard about Linux at all... if you're us. The only reason I tried it was because a) I needed to know if it worked yet, and b) the installation was on a test machine. If it was my production machine, I'd rather re-install Linux from scratch then update the kernel in that manner. Now for the rant. Linux is at a crossroads and it is time for all of the people that have stood behind it to make a decision. That decision is whether to keep Linux as a tool for nerds and IT admins or to allow it to grow and become the mainstream, versatile, all-around OS for anyone that is can be. I honestly think that most Linux advocates believe that if it becomes easy to use it will fall into the maw of M$ and be swallowed up whole. Nothing could be further from the truth. Linux has proven its marketability with distributions like Mandrake that favor the desktop user and distros like RH that favor the admin. Why can't Linux be for everyone? Let M$ keep building OS clones and calling one a server while the other is a desktop. They're not fooling anyone. Bill, how many savvy desktop users do you know? Does anyone know of a majority of users in an enterprise environment that can delete and re-install a driver in Windows? How many calls a week has anyone on a helpdesk gotten for help on adjusting contrast and brightness following a department-wide monitor upgrade? How many a day? Believe it or not, there are millions of people out there that just want to browse the web, write a letter, and keep track of their checkbooks. For one's employed by any one of our countries (US) mega-corporations, there are scores of users that don't even get their own desk, much less the chance to fiddle around when a problem occurs. I'd hate to even try to estimate the number of secretaries and executive assistants there are in this world. How many of them do you think would even spend 20 seconds trying to tweak their USB mouse driver to make it use all four buttons and the wheel? Zero! They call someone. A person like the members of this list. Then they pay us. This likely sounds cheesy, but don't fear the advent of the user friendly Linux distro. Welcome it a make a few more bucks off of it :) Tyler PS: I use Linux day in and day out and I never use the CLI. I do use MiniCommander in GNOME, but that's a GUI, too :) -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Mandrake Update Problem
Hey all! Good news! My proposal for a Mandrake book has been accepted by Que Publishing, so I'll be a Linux author soon :) I have a question for you all that has been pestering me and popped up again last night. Mandrakes online update system typically offers a RPM based kernel update. When I was using 8.0 and tried it it kacked out my system. I just tried it again with 8.1 last night and it did it again. Does anyone know what the deal is here? Now, I know that its generally not accepted to update a kernel with an RPM, but my book is special. This book is for desktop users and contains only a very small smattering of console stuff. All of it is GUI oriented, which is why I keep trying this kernel update. TIA, Tyler -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Strange Port hits
A crawler called Spida is currently cruising around. More details here: http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2866785,00.html On Mon, 27 May 2002 17:39:07 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been getting a lot of hits on port 1433 lately. This is something new > in the last week or so. Anyone know of anything going on in the dark world > of hackers that makes port 1433 a good target? > > The ports list shows that port is for Microsoft-SQL-server > > -- > ++ > + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 05/27/02 17:35 + > ++ > "Farming looks easy when your plow is a pencil and you're a thousand miles > from a cornfield." - Dwight D. Eisenhower > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Funny stuff!
This should be considered art and no defacement. http://www.pdai.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=24 -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
PDA HandyMan is up!
Hi all! I'd like to let everyone know that I have basically completed PDA HandyMan. Though I still have more work to do, things are rolling. I hope that anyone interested will visit and spread the word. I'm also looking for anyone that has a Sharp SL-5500 or SL-5000D that would like to contribute some Linux PDA material. I can't pay yet, but I hope to be able to start soon :) The URL would be a good thing: http://www.pdahandyman.com If you have any questions, just drop me a line at the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!! -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: what the hell?
As quoted from the Neohapsis forums: ***BEGIN*** > I was looking at my logs this morning and found the two following > lines inside: Aug 1 16:38:10 mydotcom kernel: TCP: Treason > uncloaked! Peer 24.200.94.63:37331/80 shrinks window > 3176552165:3176564729. Repaired. Aug 1 16:38:14 mydotcom kernel: > TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 24.200.94.63:37331/80 shrinks window > 3176552165:3176564729. Repaired. I don' t know what those two > lines mean but I know who had this ip at this moment. Does > anybody knows what this is and what I should do about it? Thank > You Marc The conquering penguin of the tribe of UNIX Its logging a tcp protocol violation by the other end. Window shrinking isnt allowed in the spec.. ***END*** Looks harmless to me, though I, too, do not like the Treason Uncloaked! language. Sounds menacing :P and I don't like that... HTH On Sun, 5 May 2002 10:45:20 -0400 Sys Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > got this in the logs this morning? wtf? > > Unusual System Events > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > May 5 04:54:01 linux-sxs kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer > 61.131.162.148:38264/80 shrinks window 1022530692:1022531292. Repaired. May > 5 04:54:26 linux-sxs kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer > 61.131.162.148:38264/80 shrinks window 1022539452:1022542972. Repaired. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE81UWASrrWWknCnMIRAh4oAJ4jdf7+bc/eX/os15h0tIpkWWPggQCePRsb > /CvhN7Rtzi335+LH94zZBv8= > =eMJt > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Asta La Vista Outlook!
Geez, Zoran. I didn't mean to set you off. That was not my intent. Needless to say, I didn't post my change without context. If you recall, I was upset that I couldn't read email sourcing from certain mailers because they were exploting a lacking in Outlook's UUencode implementation. I guess upon reflection that it wasn't all that interesting after all. My apologies. On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Zoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ->Tyler Regas wrote: > ->> Well folks, I've gone and done it now :) I've stopped using Outlook for > ->> mail and am back to using Becky! 2. Fantastic standards compliant > ->> Windows mail client (www.rimarts.co.jp). Worth every penny. > > > *** I am still trying to understand why Tyler decided to announce the > above to the list? > > "I done it: I stopped using Windows for braking my PC and am back to using > Linux. Fantastic standards compliant OS. Worth all the trouble" would have > been more of a newsworthy announcement than just I went from one crummy > mail client to another. > > I had a look at Becky!2 and I do not see why it should be such a hot mail > client: Proprietary mailboxes, proprietary mail filters, and not nice > looking, non windows standard, icons. > > When I talk standards then I do not want to spent the rest of my life > importing mailboxes from one into another mail client version, having to > redo completely the filtering statements because none of the Windows > developing crowd thinks it is a good idea to have a standard for > filtering mail. > > I only can imagine what torture I would have to go through to get 600Mb > worth of mail from let us say Eudora to Becky! Of course this is impossible > as Eudora already chokes on a mailbox of more than 10Mb and more than 4 > users accounts to check at each POP poll... > > Back to Pine... > > Cheers, > Zoran. > -- > If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Asta La Vista Outlook!
I'm a bit hard pressed to know what tools one would need beyond what KMail offers. I know the address book leaves much to be desired, so there's one. What does Agent offer over other mail clients? On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:29:22 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 21:24:25 -0700, you wrote: > > >You mean like Free Agent? In Linux I like KMail, but that's about it. It > >has killer filters. Even better than Eudora, which used to be the king > >of Windows and Mac mail handling. Not any more :P > > > > I'll get flamed for this, but kmail isn't all that great IMHO. Even the base > email toolset in Agent is better. > > >On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:18:45 -0500 > >Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:59:45 -0700, you wrote: > >> > >> >Well folks, I've gone and done it now :) I've stopped using Outlook for > >> >mail and am back to using Becky! 2. Fantastic standards compliant > >> >Windows mail client (www.rimarts.co.jp). Worth every penny. > >> > > >> > >> What's the shock there? I'm back to re-evaluating AGENT on WINE and COL 3.1... > >> > >> > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Asta La Vista Outlook!
You mean like Free Agent? In Linux I like KMail, but that's about it. It has killer filters. Even better than Eudora, which used to be the king of Windows and Mac mail handling. Not any more :P On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:18:45 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:59:45 -0700, you wrote: > > >Well folks, I've gone and done it now :) I've stopped using Outlook for > >mail and am back to using Becky! 2. Fantastic standards compliant > >Windows mail client (www.rimarts.co.jp). Worth every penny. > > > > What's the shock there? I'm back to re-evaluating AGENT on WINE and COL 3.1... > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Asta La Vista Outlook!
Well folks, I've gone and done it now :) I've stopped using Outlook for mail and am back to using Becky! 2. Fantastic standards compliant Windows mail client (www.rimarts.co.jp). Worth every penny. Tyler PS: This is not an April Fools joke. The joke was on me :) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: OT: Feds want to drop protection of privacy regarding medical data
I'm going to take a slightly different tack here... Have you seen Gattaca (1997)? The film featured one mans struggle to break the bonds of his genetic limitations which caused him to be deemed unfit to go into space by the big, bad MegaCorporation, despite his skill and intelligence. He used the DNA bearing material of a cripple, who was otherwise genetically compatible with the companies requirements to gain access to the program. He was forced to leave nail clippings, dead skin flakes, and hair in his work area due to the constant, paranoid nature of the company's need to revalidate its candidates on a daily basis. His blood and urine were also tested daily, on both ingress and egress to the building. Sure, this may be only a movie, but consider this: The Running Man (1987) was about a fictional televised game show in the future. The show promoted direct physical violence and even death of human beings for sport and financial gain. Today's television includes programs like Survivor, The Amazing Race, Fear Factor, The Chair, and The Chamber. All of these shows are escalating what level of violence is acceptable to society. The internet has also, as a vehicle for large corporations, been able to mutate our favorite communications platform to their needs, claiming all the while that their actions and direction are in the interest of the consumer. Under that guise, big business has whittled at and begun to rub away the protections we have as private, American citizens. Making it easier to access medical records of individuals, preferably without their knowledge, will make it easier for corporations to determine any number of things and base their decisions on. The applications of this knowledge of countless and industry would love to have immediate, unregulated access to it, and all in the name of the allmighty dollar. I'm typically rather cynical, though not much for conspiracy theories. Mine follows: There is no such thing as free enterprise. There is no such thing as personal freedom. Government is a sham, whether intentional or not. Corporate America is a gigantic pyramid scheme that is feeding the top 10% of the nation, which also happens to be the richest. There are no conspiracies. There are no grand, evil plots. There's simply greed, and everyone is out to get their piece of the share. As they say, it's a dog eat dog world. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: OT: Feds want to drop protection of privacy regarding medical data
> It's a shame; we could have been a Great Country. Power corrupts. Absolutely. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: one more dumb gnome question -- well, actually, two or three
> okay. bonus point time. Whadduh ah get :P > i cannot make the frigging panel autohide. looking at gnome list > archives, i see that it *can* be done, but going through the control > center i also cannot find the place to do it. anybody know how this > is done? Right click the Panel and look in the Panel menu. There's a Global something-or-other in there. Otherwise, check the Panel tab in the Panel section of the GNOME Control Center. I missed the tabs when I first started using it, too :) > desktop icons. i want there to be none. i've gotten it down to two -- > the little house thing and the trashcan. the latter i can live > entirely without; the former i'd like to move elsewhere, onto the > panel or something. seeking "panel manual" i got nautilus (which on > first blush causes me to think that eazel should not have just gone > out of business but its principles beaten as well) and my home > directory -- no documentation of any sort. anybody know how to do > this? Aaron is correct. Nautilus does draw the desktop. Run Nautilus and open the Options dialog. There is an option in there that tells the Big "N" to draw the desktop. Its very poorly implemented so keep in mind that, for a reason I have never been able to determine, the option may not be available. I've had this happen to me. > gmc. see above for the short-form review of nautilus. i have gmc > installed and am happy with it. of course, it therefore appears on no > menu, and there seems to be no equivalent of the kde kaapfinder. how > does one add an application to the panel? Either right click on the Panel and go to Panel > Add > Launcher and then enter the appropriate info, go to Panel > Add > From Menu and select an app from the list, or find it in gmc or Nautilus and drag it on. I've generally found the last to be the slowest as I'm not always able to intuit where the packagers decided it should go. HTH :) Hope I'm accurate ;P ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: *really* stupid gnome question
I don't recall the keyboard shortcuts off the top of my head, but you can hold the ALT key down and drag the window by clicking anywhere. That will let you move the buttons into view. HTH :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dep > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: *really* stupid gnome question > > > for reasons that actually do make some sense, i've put ximian > gnome on > the little toshiba portege, which has a screen of 800x480. this is > generally tolerable, except for one thing: the control center doesn't > resize properly, so there's no way to get to the buttons that confirm > configuration changes -- or to see them, or anything. clicking on > close provides "revert to previous settings" and "cancel" -- why > "save" isn't there is a mystery. in any case, i've looked all over > the place and cannot find what the hotkeys are to save settings. > could someone who is running gnome fire up the control center and > tell me what the hot ket to save changes is? it's weird enough > sorting out an entirely new desktop -- not being able to save > anything is driving me right up the wall! > -- > dep > -- > Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. > -- Daniel Patrick > Moynahan ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Re: iMAC and Linux
I think the problem comes down to who she corresponds to and not the actual mail agent. Through my years of training people to use computers the vast majority has been loathe to migrate to another mail environment, and 90% of them say its because they don't want to lose all of the people they communicate with. Of course, we know that simple diligence in notifying correspondents of the new address and maintainng both addresses for a bit easily, if not conveniently, gets over that impasse. I think, Joel, that if you were to present a clearly laid out plan of action that helps her migrate she will listen. Even suggest that she look at a few applications and try using the one that she likes the best for a bit with a test account. I know that sounds silly, to just pick the one that looks nice, but if she finds the interface appealing, she will be more likely to try it. >From the 6th Chakra of Tyler Regas :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: iMAC and Linux > > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. > This might be > > a > > > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since > it won't run > > > AOL. > > > > I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good > reason to dump > > > > AOL? I did exactly because of this. > > I also dont' quite understand this. What is so compelling > about AOL email that makes it worthwhile to spend almost $350/year? > > I spend $0/year for my email, and if my wife gave me some > non-negotiable argument, i'd still hold my ground. Your home > isn't a business, you're not going to lose productivity hours > (and dollars) getting them to learn an alternative. If email > is that important, then she could learn to use > a free alternative fast enough. Perhaps she needs a 12 step > plan? ;) > > = > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: iMAC and Linux
The only solutions I know of are DAVE from Thursby Software (www.thursby.com), PC MacLAN from Miramar (http://www.pcmaclan.com/miramarweb.nsf/web/prod_nav_pcm_pcmproductsinde x), and Service for Macintosh in Windows NT/2000 Server. You can offer internet access from Linux machines to Macs by simply using the appropriate Ethernet services (DHCP, static IPs) but file sharing is outside of my knowledge. HTH Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joel Hammer > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: iMAC and Linux > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This > might be a nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux > since it won't run AOL. However, I would like to dump one > more windows box in my house. (They all seem to be dying > natural deaths.) > > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: What's going in here!
That's easy for you to say ;) I make heavy use of Pocket PC devices in testing and cannot use anything else. Hell, I wish I could. Interesting page, though :) Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Wunder > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What's going in here! > > > http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ > > I recommend you use a mail client other than Outlook if you > want to see any > of David's posts. Of course, AFAIC, that's only one of a > gazillion reasons > you shouldn't be using Outlook for mail. > > Regards, > Tim > > Previously, Tyler Regas chose to write: > > I just noticed, I get a small message in Lookout that says, > "Outhouse: > > a program to spread virii, but it can do mail, too! By Thursday, > > February 28, 2002 8:00 AM." The attached file is named, > "Tony Alfrey > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] forth_.dat (117 B)" The > last item is, > > I assume, a file size. > > > > Any ideas here? > > > > Tyler > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David A. > > > Bandel > > > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:08 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: netscape 4.73 and 6.2 at the same time > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:41:40 -0800 > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list - > > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the > > above URL. > > -- > Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 > 4.1.0 12:00pm up 5 days, 13:47, 7 users, load average: > 0.07, 0.11, 0.15 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all > that counts ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
What's going in here!
I just noticed, I get a small message in Lookout that says, "Outhouse: a program to spread virii, but it can do mail, too! By Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:00 AM." The attached file is named, "Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] forth_.dat (117 B)" The last item is, I assume, a file size. Any ideas here? Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David A. Bandel > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: netscape 4.73 and 6.2 at the same time > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:41:40 -0800 > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
David?
David, Are you at work or something? All of your messages are coming through flagged and attached. I know I use Microsloth Lookout But I turn off all of the obnoxious stuff. I don't know if this is bothering anyone else, but it's a little annoying here. Sorry :/ Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David A. Bandel > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: netscape 4.73 and 6.2 at the same time > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:15:34 -0800 > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Help With X and VMware
Help! Okay, its not that urgent, but I've installed Mandrake 8.1 into VMware so I could get familiar with installing and configuring it as a server, and I stupidly set the video color depth to 16-bit. Well, the emulated chipset doesn't do 16-bit, so the X server won't start. How do I fix this? I think there's a line in /etc/XF86config, right? TIA ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Those maps :)
Well, I didn't want to discuss it either :) The painful truth is that I made them in Microsoft(TM) Windows 2000 using Microsoft(TM) Streets and Trips 2001. I import the data from the database, which adds all of the tags to the map, then save each region as a web page. I then go and extract the graphics files from the annoying morass of *.htm files and associated directories. Hell, MS sent it to me free. What am I talking about!! I've NEVER paid for anything from Microsoft Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger > Oberholtzer > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Those maps :) > > > I was curious how you made them. There was a bit of a > discussion about them at the time, and, I confess, I did not > read it all. I did not want to ask something that may have > been discussed in painful detail. > > On Monday 25 February 2002 06:33 pm, you wrote: > > Right. No use in complaining too loudly :) This is SxS Member Map > > version 0.1 after all Keep the notes coming for the > missing people > > that want to be included. > > > > And shame on you lot for not saying how pretty they are ;) > > -- > ++===+ > | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | > | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | > | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | > | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | > ++===+ > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Re[1] Those maps :)
I guess I should have kept my mouth shut ;) Beware seeking praise, you might just get it! Tyler > Hi Tyler, > These maps are beautiful and they are the finest maps that > I've never seen. ;-)) > Patrick > > > ---Message d'origine--- > > De : "Tyler Regas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date : 25/02/2002 19:25:46 > > > > Right. No use in complaining too loudly :) This is SxS > Member Map > > version 0.1 after all Keep the notes coming for the > missing people > > that want to be included. > > > > And shame on you lot for not saying how pretty they are ;) > > > > Tyler > > __ > E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Those maps :)
Right. No use in complaining too loudly :) This is SxS Member Map version 0.1 after all Keep the notes coming for the missing people that want to be included. And shame on you lot for not saying how pretty they are ;) Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of burns > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Those maps :) > > > On February 25, 2002 03:33 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > I seem to have gone missing from the map. We run a SxS > mirror here in > > sunny Stockholm (details at the bottom). I seem to recall > sending the > > info twice due to some e-mail address confusion. So here's number > > three. > > > > So, if you are making new maps any time soon... > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:59:15 -0700 > > > > Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | Alright!! I've been busy, but finally got around to making these > > | maps. Now, there are only 37 members on these maps. I can > add more, > > | but I have to rewrite the database to make it port more easily. > > > There are a bunch of folks missing from the map, myself > included (Ottawa, > Ontario, Canada). > -- > burns > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Those maps :)
Sorry Roger. I was pretty sure I got you in there, but it looks like I need to check things more than twice. I'm also going to have to come up with an easier way of doing this. Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger > Oberholtzer > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Those maps :) > > > I seem to have gone missing from the map. We run a SxS mirror > here in sunny Stockholm (details at the bottom). I seem to > recall sending the info twice due to some e-mail address > confusion. So here's number three. > > So, if you are making new maps any time soon... > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:59:15 -0700 > Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | Alright!! I've been busy, but finally got around to making > these maps. > | Now, > | there are only 37 members on these maps. I can add more, > but I have to > | rewrite the database to make it port more easily. > | > | You can download them from here: > | http://www.pdahandyman.com/files/sxs-maps.zip The archive > is about 1.3 MBs > | in size. > | > | Anyway, enjoy and if you note any errors, please let me know. > | > | Tyler > | > | > | ___ > | Linux-users mailing list - > | http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > | Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > > > -- > ++===+ > | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | > | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | > | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | > | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | > ++===+ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Those maps :)
Alright!! I've been busy, but finally got around to making these maps. Now, there are only 37 members on these maps. I can add more, but I have to rewrite the database to make it port more easily. You can download them from here: http://www.pdahandyman.com/files/sxs-maps.zip The archive is about 1.3 MBs in size. Anyway, enjoy and if you note any errors, please let me know. Tyler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
