Re: Mail Program
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Make that "I didn't need Sylpheed's GUI as badly as I thought I did." > > % What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms. Makes > % cuting and pasting between windows (usually different systems) a breeze. > > No argument here. I like X, I just didn't need the GUI for my mail > client. My finger habits proved too hard to break. X is a great platform > for running a dozen xterms. ;-) Amen to that brother, my fingers twitch in a Pine keystroke sorta way. And gnome-term is not an acceptible substitue for xterm. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
Feigning erudition, David A. Bandel wrote: % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:23:14 -0500 % begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: % % [snip] % % > I liked and used Sylpheed for quite some time here and had no trouble % > with it. It read HTML-sotted email, displayed images, and so forth % > without incident. I gave up on it, though, and reverted to Mutt because % > I decided I didn't need the GUI as badly as I thought I did. Make that "I didn't need Sylpheed's GUI as badly as I thought I did." % What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms. Makes % cuting and pasting between windows (usually different systems) a breeze. No argument here. I like X, I just didn't need the GUI for my mail client. My finger habits proved too hard to break. X is a great platform for running a dozen xterms. ;-) Kurt -- Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum -- "I think that I think, therefore I think that I am." -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:23:14 -0500 begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] > > I liked and used Sylpheed for quite some time here and had no trouble > with it. It read HTML-sotted email, displayed images, and so forth > without incident. I gave up on it, though, and reverted to Mutt because > I decided I didn't need the GUI as badly as I thought I did. What I principally use the GUI for is to run multiple xterms. Makes cuting and pasting between windows (usually different systems) a breeze. David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99eFf3uVcotqGMQcRAllNAJ458XkjTrbtQybCg4fTQs+76/btqACg3LhD hVSTXNPXzXlS02XxZ9RDQBw= =qEne -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:55:42PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:13:57 -0500 > begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: > > > > > Oh for cryin' out loud, Kurt. He said Sylpheed didn't work. Read twice; > > post once. > > > > > > Kurt > > Kurt, for once, you're both right and right. That's reassuring, David. I think. ;-) > I've run Sylpheed since somewhere around 4.0 (maybe earlier). I'm now > running 8.6. The problems he's experiencing (holes, etc.,) were fixed a > _long_ time ago in Sylpheed, so he's either running a _very_ old version > of Sylpheed, or one compiled without any of the support libraries for > graphics, etc. I'd say both are his problem. My Sylpheed (compiled with > _all_ optional libraries) reads HTML (even the crappy spaghetti-code HTML > Outhouse Distress writes) just fine. Pics are separate attachments, but I > don't like the distraction of pix breaking up the flow of the text. If I > need the picture, I'll refer to it. I liked and used Sylpheed for quite some time here and had no trouble with it. It read HTML-sotted email, displayed images, and so forth without incident. I gave up on it, though, and reverted to Mutt because I decided I didn't need the GUI as badly as I thought I did. Kurt -- You are here: *** *** * *** * *** * But you're not all there. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thursday 05 December 2002 09:20 pm, someone claiming to be Lee wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Lee wrote: > > > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > > > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > > > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > > > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > > > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > > > pictures and captions should be. > > > > > > Lee > > > > What's wrong with Mozilla? > > It doesn't have a built in mail program like messenger, it won't allow > me to access netscape the e-mail account that I run to misdirect the > spammers in addition to my normal e-mail and it's cannibalistic. I > prefer Netscape 7.0 (personnel preference) but when I try to download > and install it (SuSE 8.0 doesn't come with it) Mozilla takes it over and > when I access Netscape Mozilla pops up. I don't like pop ads or programs > that pop up and take over other programs. I find that SuSE 8.0 is a very > good OS, but the lack of the browser that I prefer is a serious > annoyance. > Have you considered *uninstalling* mozilla, if it annoys you so? Uninstall mozilla, install Netscape. What do you mean by mozilla "won't allow [you] to access netscape the e-mail account"? I would find it highly annoying that I could access my mail account via only *one* program. E-mail should be e-mail and be retrievable by any e-mail client. Netscpae/AOL, however, feels differently. Mozilla, FWIW, is *better* at blocking pop-up adds than Netscape. And many users of Mozilla are just as frustrated by Netscape/AOL crippling Mozilla and calling it Netscape 7. Take a look at Phoenix, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/ It's a browser only project started by Mozilla developers who were frustrated by the direction of Mozilla developement. Regards, Tim -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, Gnome 2.x, Xfree86 4.2.0 7:00pm up 3 days, 18:50, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 19:20, Lee wrote: snipped > > It doesn't have a built in mail program like messenger, it won't allow > me to access netscape the e-mail account that I run to misdirect the > spammers in addition to my normal e-mail and it's cannibalistic. I > prefer Netscape 7.0 (personnel preference) but when I try to download > and install it (SuSE 8.0 doesn't come with it) Mozilla takes it over and > when I access Netscape Mozilla pops up. I don't like pop ads or programs > that pop up and take over other programs. I find that SuSE 8.0 is a very > good OS, but the lack of the browser that I prefer is a serious > annoyance. > snipped Can't comment on the email issue with Mozilla (I have been using evolution for the last year or so), BUT SuSE 8.0 does come with Netscape. It has been a while since I loaded the distro, so from memory you probably need to look in the "pay" section for Netscape. Just checked on this computer and the version loaded is 6.2.1 from the SuSE DVD. Appears that I did not finish setting up Netscape because I switched to Mozilla. As of version 8.0, Mozilla is the default browser for SuSE. Speaking of pop-ups, they can be turned off with Mozilla/Galeon but not with Netscape. To get the latest Mozilla compiled specifically for SuSE go to: www.usr-local-bin.org The maintainer at that site does a pretty good job of keeping the gnome type apps (moz, galeon, evolution) current for SuSE users. -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:13:57 -0500 begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:12:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:53:06PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have > > > been using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no > > > netscape only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using > > > evolution, kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either > > > a message hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank > > > outlined holes where pictures and captions should be. > > > > Sylpheed. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > > Oh for cryin' out loud, Kurt. He said Sylpheed didn't work. Read twice; > post once. > > > Kurt Kurt, for once, you're both right and right. I've run Sylpheed since somewhere around 4.0 (maybe earlier). I'm now running 8.6. The problems he's experiencing (holes, etc.,) were fixed a _long_ time ago in Sylpheed, so he's either running a _very_ old version of Sylpheed, or one compiled without any of the support libraries for graphics, etc. I'd say both are his problem. My Sylpheed (compiled with _all_ optional libraries) reads HTML (even the crappy spaghetti-code HTML Outhouse Distress writes) just fine. Pics are separate attachments, but I don't like the distraction of pix breaking up the flow of the text. If I need the picture, I'll refer to it. Ciao, David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE98AOe3uVcotqGMQcRArqZAJ0SrRTIISQCNjnhHXIHkFv50DPMYACgkqa/ DhQ6OA5FrFSHbI8Q4yvv1tc= =vUZw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
Ken Moffat wrote: > > Lee wrote: > > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > > pictures and captions should be. > > > > Lee > > What's wrong with Mozilla? It doesn't have a built in mail program like messenger, it won't allow me to access netscape the e-mail account that I run to misdirect the spammers in addition to my normal e-mail and it's cannibalistic. I prefer Netscape 7.0 (personnel preference) but when I try to download and install it (SuSE 8.0 doesn't come with it) Mozilla takes it over and when I access Netscape Mozilla pops up. I don't like pop ads or programs that pop up and take over other programs. I find that SuSE 8.0 is a very good OS, but the lack of the browser that I prefer is a serious annoyance. > > -- > Ken Moffat > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On 12/05/02 18:20, Lee wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Lee wrote: > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > pictures and captions should be. > > Lee What's wrong with Mozilla? It doesn't have a built in mail program like messenger, it won't allow OK, but don't tell that to the Mozilla mail that i'm using to send this. me to access netscape the e-mail account that I run to misdirect the spammers in addition to my normal e-mail and it's cannibalistic. I Huh? I don't even understand what you're saying here. That sentence sounds like 6 different thoughts rolled into one. prefer Netscape 7.0 (personnel preference) but when I try to download and install it (SuSE 8.0 doesn't come with it) Mozilla takes it over and when I access Netscape Mozilla pops up. I don't like pop ads or programs that pop up and take over other programs. I find that SuSE 8.0 is a very good OS, but the lack of the browser that I prefer is a serious annoyance. PEBCAK -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:35pm up 4 days, 4:03, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.20, 0.17 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thursday 05 December 2002 08:13 pm, someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:12:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:53:06PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > > > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > > > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > > > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > > > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > > > pictures and captions should be. > > > > Sylpheed. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > > Oh for cryin' out loud, Kurt. He said Sylpheed didn't work. Read twice; > post once. > > > Kurt hey, but he also said kmail won't read html mail and, um, it does... -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, Gnome 2.x, Xfree86 4.2.0 7:00pm up 3 days, 18:50, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:12:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:53:06PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > > pictures and captions should be. > > Sylpheed. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ Oh for cryin' out loud, Kurt. He said Sylpheed didn't work. Read twice; post once. Kurt -- Test-tube babies shouldn't throw stones. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
KMail 1.3.1 (KDE 2.2.x) works with HTML, too. I agree with Tim - check out Mozilla. I've seen several reviews of Moz vs Netscape 7.0 and Moz is selected each time. > On Thursday 05 December 2002 02:53 pm, someone claiming to be Lee wrote: >> Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been >> using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape >> only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, >> kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message >> hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where >> pictures and captions should be. >> >> > > Then get Netscape: > http://info.netscape.com/fwd/bduothr/http://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/7.0/unix/linux22/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz > > KMail reads HTML mail just fine, thank you. At least version 1.4.x (KDE > 3.0.x) > Settings-Configure Kmail-Security-General Configure HTML settings to your > liking. > > Why do you think Mozilla is a "retarded version of netscape"? Netscape 7.0 > is *based* on Mozilla 1.0, Mozilla is currently at 1.2.1 and has features > that Netscape 7.0 doesn't. But, whatever floats your boat... > > HTH, > Tim > -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thursday 05 December 2002 02:53 pm, someone claiming to be Lee wrote: > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > pictures and captions should be. > > Then get Netscape: http://info.netscape.com/fwd/bduothr/http://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/7.0/unix/linux22/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz KMail reads HTML mail just fine, thank you. At least version 1.4.x (KDE 3.0.x) Settings-Configure Kmail-Security-General Configure HTML settings to your liking. Why do you think Mozilla is a "retarded version of netscape"? Netscape 7.0 is *based* on Mozilla 1.0, Mozilla is currently at 1.2.1 and has features that Netscape 7.0 doesn't. But, whatever floats your boat... HTH, Tim -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, Gnome 2.x, Xfree86 4.2.0 7:00pm up 3 days, 18:50, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:53:06PM -0500, Lee wrote: > Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been > using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape > only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, > kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message > hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where > pictures and captions should be. Sylpheed. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > Lee > > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
Lee wrote: Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where pictures and captions should be. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Have a look at Beonex, a communicator program that uses the mozilla engine, but is modeled after netscape. (looks exactly like it!) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mail Program
Lee wrote: Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where pictures and captions should be. Lee What's wrong with Mozilla? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mail Program
Anybody know of a mail program that does both text and html? Have been using netscape mail on SuSE 7.2. Upgraded to SuSE 8.0 and no netscape only the retarded version of netscape -mozilla. Trief using evolution, kmail, ans sypheed but all I get for html mail is either a message hidden in formating symbols or messages with blank outlined holes where pictures and captions should be. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
