Re: This is just a test
Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS service would be useless? Sounds like you want a dynamic dns service. go to http://www.dyndns.org org and register once logged in click the services tab on the left hand side select the dynamic dns link it will expand to a list of sub options. click add host and make up a hostname and select which domain you want it to belong to and click add. Once you have done the above you need a DDNS Client, Click the Clients link under Dynamic DNS and select one for your OS. Download and configure it with your www.dyndns.org username and password and the hostname.x.xxx domain you selected and configure the update options per your tastes (the defaults are always a good start) Now when ever you dial up make sure that you have the DDNS Client active and updating your name to ip address mapping. -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein Linux 2.6.0-test9 #1 Fri Nov 7 22:06:28 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 12:15:01 up 14:02, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:44:07 -0500 "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Arggh.. around here there is one other provider. I have no problems > with it,except they only offer one email addy, which would go to my > parents. Though I still get my inbox loaded with spam so their > methods don't seem to be working. They block at their border routers. So you can send within their network (which is one trick spammers use, they also hijack Windoze boxes to send tons of crap). Port blocking only hurts legitimate users. Kinda like outlawing guns so only the outlaws the law is aimed at keeping guns away from will have guns. > > But still.. is there a reason why I can send and receive sendmail > messages to myself? of course you can -- either through your own ISP or your own server (see my first para above, first sentence). > > Oh well.. I'll see about the FTP option... > Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:04, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right? > > I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are. I just need > to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and > I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him > the files. I'm not sure but it definately helps. :-) Does you ISP offer free web hosting? If they do and depending on the amount of space they offer for free, you could always make a website and post the files there for downloading. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On 10/31/2003 11:04 AM, I believe that Robert E.Raymond wrote: On Friday 31 October 2003 10:42, Tom Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote: On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit. So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS service would be useless? Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services? That may be what you need. See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right? I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are. I just need to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him the files. No. Check it out again. You can get .dyndns.org for free, IIRC. Let's go here: http://www.dyndns.org/services/dyndns/ and see... OK, according to that page: "The Dynamic DNS service allows you to alias a dynamic IP address to a static hostname in any of the many domains we offer, allowing your computer to be more easily accessed from various locations on the Internet. We provide this service, for up to five (5) hostnames, free to the Internet community. The Dynamic DNS service is ideal for a home website, file server, or just to keep a pointer back to your home PC so you can access those important documents while you're at work. Using one of the available third-party update clients you can keep your hostname always pointing to your IP address, no matter how often your ISP changes it. No more fumbling to find that piece of paper where you wrote down your IP address, or e-mailing all your friends every time it changes. Just tell them to visit yourname.dyndns.org instead!" Sounds llike what you want to me. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
Hi Robert, > See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right? > > I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are. I just > need to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times > ;)), Would a commandline tool like sendEmail be enough? See http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/ HTH hjb ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Friday 31 October 2003 10:42, Tom Wilson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > > On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 > > > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, > > > > I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't > > > > have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a > > > > 10 MB filesize limit. > > > > > > So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? > > > > > > 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. > > > Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). > > > > Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address > > changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere > > so a DNS service would be useless? > > Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services? That may > be what you need. See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right? I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are. I just need to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him the files. -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 11:02:11 up 1 day, 18:00, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.19, 0.15 If it's working, the diagnostics say it's fine. If it's not working, the diagnostics say it's fine. - A proposed addition to rules for realtime programming ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 > > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I > > > just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't > > > have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 > > > MB filesize limit. > > > > So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? > > > > 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. > > Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). > > Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes > every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS > service would be useless? Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services? That may be what you need. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - System going down at 5 this afternoon to install scheduler bug. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Friday 31 October 2003 7:36, David A. Bandel wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:52:36 -0500 > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Friday 31 October 2003 6:29, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500 > > > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snippage] > > > > > > > > > > V6 > > > > T1067573880 > > > > K1067574071 > > > > N1 > > > > P32378 > > > > MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org. > > > > Fbs > > > > > > > > > Some ISPs block port 25. Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on > > > port 25? > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > > > David A. Bandel > > > > > > Nope, I can't. Any way I can get around the blockage? > > > Send them an angry letter and get another provider. Despite the > hazards, taking away freedom by blocking ports is the wrong way to fight > the spam problem. > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel Arggh.. around here there is one other provider. I have no problems with it,except they only offer one email addy, which would go to my parents. Though I still get my inbox loaded with spam so their methods don't seem to be working. But still.. is there a reason why I can send and receive sendmail messages to myself? Oh well.. I'll see about the FTP option... Bob Raymond -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 07:41:19 up 1 day, 14:39, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.20, 0.13 It all happened during the magical summer of 1985. A maturing Joe Piscopo left `Saturday Night Live' to conquer Hollywood; People Express introduced a generation of hicks to plane travel; and I was in a barbershop quartet. -- Homer Simpson Homer's Barbershop Quartet ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:52:36 -0500 "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2003 6:29, David A. Bandel wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500 > > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snippage] > > > > > V6 > > > T1067573880 > > > K1067574071 > > > N1 > > > P32378 > > > MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org. > > > Fbs > > > > Some ISPs block port 25. Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on > > port 25? > > > > Ciao, > > > > David A. Bandel > > Nope, I can't. Any way I can get around the blockage? Send them an angry letter and get another provider. Despite the hazards, taking away freedom by blocking ports is the wrong way to fight the spam problem. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I > > just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't > > have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 > > MB filesize limit. > > So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? > > 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. > Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS service would be useless? I was thinking SMTP because then I could send the file at my leisure and the guy who needs the large files could receive it at his (we're on other sides of the pond.. so different sleep schedules.. plus dialup ain't as always on as I'd like it to be with other people in the house and an ISP that is very anti-internet-connection-sharing) Bob Raymond > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 06:52:43 up 1 day, 13:51, 7 users, load average: 0.88, 0.40, 0.19 The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- Franklin P. Jones ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Friday 31 October 2003 6:29, David A. Bandel wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500 > "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snippage] > > > V6 > > T1067573880 > > K1067574071 > > N1 > > P32378 > > MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org. > > Fbs > > Some ISPs block port 25. Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on port > 25? > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel Nope, I can't. Any way I can get around the blockage? -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 06:51:21 up 1 day, 13:49, 7 users, load average: 0.54, 0.21, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I > just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't > have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 > MB filesize limit. So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500 "Robert E.Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snippage] > > V6 > T1067573880 > K1067574071 > N1 > P32378 > MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org. > Fbs Some ISPs block port 25. Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on port 25? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
Quoth Jay Nugent: [whack] >Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the > loopback device. You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no > need to run m4 and all that crap!). Well, Red Hat certainly ships Sendmail this way. The default Slackware Sendmail installation does not do this. Kurt -- U: There's a U -- a Unicorn! Run right up and rub its horn. Look at all those points you're losing! UMBER HULKS are so confusing. -- The Roguelet's ABC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:04, Jay Nugent wrote: > Greetings Bob, > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > > > > On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote: > > > > > Quoth Robert E.Raymond: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'm testing sendmail. > > >...stuff Bobbettized... snipped, bobbettized is just plain too sick :P >Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the > loopback device. You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no > need to run m4 and all that crap!). > > > vi /etc/sendmail.cf > > Find for the line containing: "DaemonPortOptions" > > It will probably look like this: > > O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA > > Change it to look like this: > > O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA > >Stop and start sendmail... > > >By not defining any ports in "DaemonPortOptions" you are telling > sendmail to listen to ALL interfaces on your machine. So if you ever > define alias interfaces on your ethernet, and add additional ethernet > cards, your sendmail will work automagically with those new interfaces :-) > >Enjoy! > > --- Jay It's already set to that... O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA O DaemonPortOptions=Port=587, Name=MSA, M=E I tried commenting out the 2nd line and sending with Sendmail, but I got my usual error message in mqueue- V6 T1067573880 K1067574071 N1 P32378 MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org. Fbs Bob Raymond -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 23:13:18 up 1 day, 6:11, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.14, 0.27 What good is a ticket to the good life, if you can't find the entrance? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
Greetings Bob, On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote: > > Quoth Robert E.Raymond: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm testing sendmail. ...stuff Bobbettized... > But it still doesn't work! > > Any ideas? > > I followed the SxS to the letter > > Do I need my own domain to do it properly? > > If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just > want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough > FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit. Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the loopback device. You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no need to run m4 and all that crap!). vi /etc/sendmail.cf Find for the line containing: "DaemonPortOptions" It will probably look like this: O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA Change it to look like this: O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA Stop and start sendmail... By not defining any ports in "DaemonPortOptions" you are telling sendmail to listen to ALL interfaces on your machine. So if you ever define alias interfaces on your ethernet, and add additional ethernet cards, your sendmail will work automagically with those new interfaces :-) Enjoy! --- Jay "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) ++ | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)484-5105(734)544-4326/Fax| | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| ++ 10:01pm up 43 days, 14:53, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Robert E.Raymond: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm testing sendmail. > > You have my sympathies. > > > If you receive this you all know it works. > > I'm *so* relieved. > > > If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work. > > Pity, that. > > > I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm > > that you received it anyway. > > Touché. > > Kurt But it still doesn't work! Any ideas? I followed the SxS to the letter Do I need my own domain to do it properly? If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit. TIA Bob Raymond -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 20:20:59 up 1 day, 3:19, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.31, 0.62 Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
Quoth Robert E.Raymond: > Hi all, > > I'm testing sendmail. You have my sympathies. > If you receive this you all know it works. I'm *so* relieved. > If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work. Pity, that. > I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that > you received it anyway. Touché. Kurt -- Silverman's Law: If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Thursday 30 October 2003 15:37, Robert E.Raymond wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm testing sendmail. > > If you receive this you all know it works. > > If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work. > > I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that > you received it anyway. Aggh.. sorry all I sent that with SMTP sendmail still ain't working except to send stuff to myself :( Bob Raymond -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.6.0-test9 #2 Wed Oct 29 16:05:56 EST 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 15:53:11 up 22:51, 5 users, load average: 0.93, 0.38, 0.30 Mind your own business, then you don't mind mine. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
This is just a test
Hi all, I'm testing sendmail. If you receive this you all know it works. If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work. I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that you received it anyway. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
