Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-18 Thread Tom Wilson
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 01:25 pm, Jerry McBride's voice rose above 
the ones in my head and declared:
> Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> afternoon...
>
> Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?

I was there 2 weeks ago right before I bought the stuff to put together 
my new PC.  It seemed the one hosted at ZDnet was about 2 years outta 
date.  I didn't see a post or listing past sometime in 2000.

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
% On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote:
% > the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend"
% 
% I've been saying that for years.
% 
% > now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my
% > thinkpad... hrm.
% 
% Seems to work just fine in Redhat.  Oh, wait, nevermind.  :)

Evil, Llama. Just plain evil. ;-)

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:49:37 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> yOn Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases,
> > >
> >
> > Can you name a few?
> 
> Go to Google, and perform a search on 'linux hardware database' and you'll
> find them easily.
> 

I've googled all afternoon basically they all suck. I just put in a
request/whimper with ZDNET to see if the lhd was still available or was
destroyed. Perhaps I can toss it on one of my webpages... it's about time I did
something with them anyways... Why not host the LHD on one of them?

Cheers all.


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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote:
> the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend"

I've been saying that for years.

>
> now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my
> thinkpad... hrm.

Seems to work just fine in Redhat.  Oh, wait, nevermind.  :)

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Bonnet
What i normalyl do when i'm considering purchasing new haredware, and want
to verify functionality under Linux is the following:
1) Check the kernel.  First grep in /usr/src/linux/Dcoumentation.  That's
a guarenteed way to know if its supported.
2) Go to groups.google.com and search the linux NG's to see what us
commoners have run into already.
3) Go to the vendor's website, and see if they offer any linux support for
that component.

If you come up dry on all 3, then you're most likely going to end up with
something that is windoze only.  BTW, i believe that IEEE1394 is still
classified as 'Experimental' when configuring a 2.4.20 kernel.  Not sure
about 2.5.x, but then again, that kernel is experimental by definition.


hey, you're right! Every kernel comes with it's own hardware database!

anyway.. As a side note, and one of the things I find quite amusing.. 
When my phone rings and Joe End User is calling with problem XYZ.. If I 
don't know the answer right away I get keywords from his question, go to 
goolge, do a quick search and most of the time I can find the answer.. 
be it for linux, unix, or m$.. we get questions on all of 'em and the 
answers are there. and _BOY_ are some customers amazed at how much I 
know.. or, is that, how much google knows.. =)

the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend"

now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my 
thinkpad... hrm.


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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Net Llama!
yOn Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases,
> >
>
> Can you name a few?

Go to Google, and perform a search on 'linux hardware database' and you'll
find them easily.

>
> > but, heck! Isn't most
> > stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I
> > didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well!
> >
>
> I don't feel like being a hardware tester anymore than you do... What I'm
> looking for is a firewire PCI I/O card. Any suggestions?

What i normalyl do when i'm considering purchasing new haredware, and want
to verify functionality under Linux is the following:
1) Check the kernel.  First grep in /usr/src/linux/Dcoumentation.  That's
a guarenteed way to know if its supported.
2) Go to groups.google.com and search the linux NG's to see what us
commoners have run into already.
3) Go to the vendor's website, and see if they offer any linux support for
that component.

If you come up dry on all 3, then you're most likely going to end up with
something that is windoze only.  BTW, i believe that IEEE1394 is still
classified as 'Experimental' when configuring a 2.4.20 kernel.  Not sure
about 2.5.x, but then again, that kernel is experimental by definition.

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases,
>

Can you name a few?

> but, heck! Isn't most 
> stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I 
> didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well!
>

I don't feel like being a hardware tester anymore than you do... What I'm
looking for is a firewire PCI I/O card. Any suggestions?

 

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Well, it's not surprising that the LHD was one of them.  Quite frankly,
with the tight relationship with Microsoft they've had I was surprised to
learn they even publish the word.


On 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800
"Jim Bonnet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Net Llama! wrote:
> > I don't know that we're screwed.  I never used the LHD at all, and got
> > by just fine.
> > 
> yeah.. I seem to remember a few months back the ZDNET was dropping some 
> of the web-services they were providing. Some were just plain redundant 
> IMHO.
> 
> Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, but, heck! Isn't most 
> stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I 
> didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn
> well!
> 
> Jim
> databases- we don't need no steenkeeng databases..
> 
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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread C M Reinehr
Jerry McBride wrote:

> 
> Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> afternoon...
> 
> Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?
> 

For a number of weeks, the search engine didn't work. Then suddenly last 
week, the search engine began working again, but I noticed that there had 
been no new entries to the database in over a year.  I guess ZDNet can't 
afford the resources to support it any longer & decided just to pull the 
plug.

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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Bonnet
Net Llama! wrote:

I don't know that we're screwed.  I never used the LHD at all, and got by
just fine.


yeah.. I seem to remember a few months back the ZDNET was dropping some 
of the web-services they were providing. Some were just plain redundant 
IMHO.

Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, but, heck! Isn't most 
stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I 
didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well!

Jim
databases- we don't need no steenkeeng databases..


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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Net Llama!
I don't know that we're screwed.  I never used the LHD at all, and got by
just fine.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:

>
> I just pounded the search engine on zdnet and only found ONE reference to lhd
> for motherboards.
>
> Either the lhd has been chopped off of zdnet without so much as a statement or
> it's been hacked severely... Either way we're screwed.
>
> Be sure to complain to ZDNET
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:20:07 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hrmm...this is weird.  http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the
> > Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere.
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com.
> > >
> > > That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page
> > > listing commercial websites...
> > >
> > > If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What's the URL for it?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> > > > > afternoon...
> > > > >
> > > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?


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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jerry McBride

I just pounded the search engine on zdnet and only found ONE reference to lhd
for motherboards.

Either the lhd has been chopped off of zdnet without so much as a statement or
it's been hacked severely... Either way we're screwed.

Be sure to complain to ZDNET

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:20:07 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hrmm...this is weird.  http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the
> Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com.
> >
> > That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page
> > listing commercial websites...
> >
> > If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What's the URL for it?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> > > > afternoon...
> > > >
> > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Net Llama!
Hrmm...this is weird.  http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the
Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:

>
>
> I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com.
>
> That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page listing
> commercial websites...
>
> If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource.
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > What's the URL for it?
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> > > afternoon...
> > >
> > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jerry McBride


I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com.

That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page listing
commercial websites...

If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource.


On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> What's the URL for it?
> 
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> >
> > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this
> > afternoon...
> >
> > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?
> >
> >
> 
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Re: Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Net Llama!
What's the URL for it?

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote:

>
> Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this afternoon...
>
> Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?
>
>

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Where's the LHD?

2002-12-17 Thread Jerry McBride

Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this afternoon...

Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking?

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