Re: Where's the LHD?
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 01:25 pm, Jerry McBride's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > afternoon... > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? I was there 2 weeks ago right before I bought the stuff to put together my new PC. It seemed the one hosted at ZDnet was about 2 years outta date. I didn't see a post or listing past sometime in 2000. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux User #199331 "Weaseling out of stuff is what separates us from the rest of the animals.except the weasels." ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: % > the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend" % % I've been saying that for years. % % > now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my % > thinkpad... hrm. % % Seems to work just fine in Redhat. Oh, wait, nevermind. :) Evil, Llama. Just plain evil. ;-) Kurt -- The reward of a thing well done is to have done it. -- Emerson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:49:37 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yOn Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, > > > > > > > Can you name a few? > > Go to Google, and perform a search on 'linux hardware database' and you'll > find them easily. > I've googled all afternoon basically they all suck. I just put in a request/whimper with ZDNET to see if the lhd was still available or was destroyed. Perhaps I can toss it on one of my webpages... it's about time I did something with them anyways... Why not host the LHD on one of them? Cheers all. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 5:19pm up 24 days, 19:00, 10 users, load average: 1.08, 0.90, 0.83 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jim Bonnet wrote: > the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend" I've been saying that for years. > > now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my > thinkpad... hrm. Seems to work just fine in Redhat. Oh, wait, nevermind. :) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
What i normalyl do when i'm considering purchasing new haredware, and want to verify functionality under Linux is the following: 1) Check the kernel. First grep in /usr/src/linux/Dcoumentation. That's a guarenteed way to know if its supported. 2) Go to groups.google.com and search the linux NG's to see what us commoners have run into already. 3) Go to the vendor's website, and see if they offer any linux support for that component. If you come up dry on all 3, then you're most likely going to end up with something that is windoze only. BTW, i believe that IEEE1394 is still classified as 'Experimental' when configuring a 2.4.20 kernel. Not sure about 2.5.x, but then again, that kernel is experimental by definition. hey, you're right! Every kernel comes with it's own hardware database! anyway.. As a side note, and one of the things I find quite amusing.. When my phone rings and Joe End User is calling with problem XYZ.. If I don't know the answer right away I get keywords from his question, go to goolge, do a quick search and most of the time I can find the answer.. be it for linux, unix, or m$.. we get questions on all of 'em and the answers are there. and _BOY_ are some customers amazed at how much I know.. or, is that, how much google knows.. =) the moral of the story is.. "google is your friend" now if I can only get openserver's pcmcia subsystem to talk to my thinkpad... hrm. --jim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
yOn Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, > > > > Can you name a few? Go to Google, and perform a search on 'linux hardware database' and you'll find them easily. > > > but, heck! Isn't most > > stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I > > didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well! > > > > I don't feel like being a hardware tester anymore than you do... What I'm > looking for is a firewire PCI I/O card. Any suggestions? What i normalyl do when i'm considering purchasing new haredware, and want to verify functionality under Linux is the following: 1) Check the kernel. First grep in /usr/src/linux/Dcoumentation. That's a guarenteed way to know if its supported. 2) Go to groups.google.com and search the linux NG's to see what us commoners have run into already. 3) Go to the vendor's website, and see if they offer any linux support for that component. If you come up dry on all 3, then you're most likely going to end up with something that is windoze only. BTW, i believe that IEEE1394 is still classified as 'Experimental' when configuring a 2.4.20 kernel. Not sure about 2.5.x, but then again, that kernel is experimental by definition. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Jim Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, > Can you name a few? > but, heck! Isn't most > stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I > didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well! > I don't feel like being a hardware tester anymore than you do... What I'm looking for is a firewire PCI I/O card. Any suggestions? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 3:29pm up 24 days, 17:10, 10 users, load average: 1.15, 1.14, 1.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
Well, it's not surprising that the LHD was one of them. Quite frankly, with the tight relationship with Microsoft they've had I was surprised to learn they even publish the word. On 17 Dec 2002 12:06:31 -0800 "Jim Bonnet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: > > I don't know that we're screwed. I never used the LHD at all, and got > > by just fine. > > > yeah.. I seem to remember a few months back the ZDNET was dropping some > of the web-services they were providing. Some were just plain redundant > IMHO. > > Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, but, heck! Isn't most > stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I > didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn > well! > > Jim > databases- we don't need no steenkeeng databases.. > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
Jerry McBride wrote: > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > afternoon... > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? > For a number of weeks, the search engine didn't work. Then suddenly last week, the search engine began working again, but I noticed that there had been no new entries to the database in over a year. I guess ZDNet can't afford the resources to support it any longer & decided just to pull the plug. cmr -- Registered Linux User #241964 "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." -- Samwise Gamgee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
Net Llama! wrote: I don't know that we're screwed. I never used the LHD at all, and got by just fine. yeah.. I seem to remember a few months back the ZDNET was dropping some of the web-services they were providing. Some were just plain redundant IMHO. Anyway.. There are other linuxhardware databases, but, heck! Isn't most stuff working pretty well now on linux? The last machine I bought I didn't check any databases and everything seems to work pretty darn well! Jim databases- we don't need no steenkeeng databases.. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
I don't know that we're screwed. I never used the LHD at all, and got by just fine. On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > I just pounded the search engine on zdnet and only found ONE reference to lhd > for motherboards. > > Either the lhd has been chopped off of zdnet without so much as a statement or > it's been hacked severely... Either way we're screwed. > > Be sure to complain to ZDNET > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:20:07 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hrmm...this is weird. http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the > > Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere. > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com. > > > > > > That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page > > > listing commercial websites... > > > > > > If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > What's the URL for it? > > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > > > > > afternoon... > > > > > > > > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
I just pounded the search engine on zdnet and only found ONE reference to lhd for motherboards. Either the lhd has been chopped off of zdnet without so much as a statement or it's been hacked severely... Either way we're screwed. Be sure to complain to ZDNET On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:20:07 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hrmm...this is weird. http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the > Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere. > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > > > I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com. > > > > That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page > > listing commercial websites... > > > > If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource. > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > What's the URL for it? > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > > > > afternoon... > > > > > > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ~~ > > > Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com > > > ___ > > > Linux-users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > > > > > > > -- > ~~ > Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 2:30pm up 24 days, 16:11, 10 users, load average: 1.41, 1.41, 1.23 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
Hrmm...this is weird. http://lhd.zdnet.com claims to be a 'mirror' of the Linux Hardware Database, yet i can't find the mothership site anywhere. On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com. > > That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page listing > commercial websites... > > If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource. > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > What's the URL for it? > > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > > > afternoon... > > > > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ~~ > > Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > > -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
I've been using http://lhd.zdnet.com. That used to bring up the hardware database at zdnet. Now it's a page listing commercial websites... If this is legit, then the linux community lost a very valuable resource. On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the URL for it? > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this > > afternoon... > > > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? > > > > > > -- > ~~ > Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 2:04pm up 24 days, 15:45, 10 users, load average: 1.15, 1.24, 1.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where's the LHD?
What's the URL for it? On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: > > Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this afternoon... > > Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? > > -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Where's the LHD?
Did I miss something? The Linux Hardware Database isn't there this afternoon... Was it moved somewhere when I wasn't looking? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 1:23pm up 24 days, 15:04, 10 users, load average: 1.09, 1.00, 0.91 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users