gentoo again - avoid downloads
For those of you without a high-speed internet connection, as I reported earlier the current gentoo LiveCD sets will get you up and going, but if you really want realtively current sources, try the following uri. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:43:17 -0400 Phil Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You could buy the Gentoo essentials CDs. They come with source pacakges and the portage tree as of the day they are ordered. http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/pdtl/product/218 -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 08:41:51AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:58:12 -0500 > "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Doesn't X use a standard set of mode lines if it can't find any. And I > > believe it selects the highest res that is allowed. > > How does it determine the highest allowed for the display? My display is PnP > (it gets the name and model from the display itself). Does it get > information about this as well? The hardcoded standard mode lines are VESA standards, to which monitors and cards are supposed to adhere. Most, these days, do. When the server starts, it looks for information in the config file, then uses DDC and VBE probes to find out about the capabilities of the card and monitor. If it can't get any information from the monitor, it uses the standard mode lines and refresh rates from VESA that are hardcoded into the server. Kurt -- Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:40:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:25:12 -0800 > Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ? > > > > A while back there was a post on the gentoo mail list that a fonts > > dir location was missing in X and had to be edited. I can not > > remember exactly > > > > what that was. A search of gentoo lists should get you that info. > > I'll look for it later and if I locate that post I'll forward it > > to you. I had to add the resolutions to my XF86Config after > > configuring X which I thought was rather odd. We must keep in mind > > that it is a release candidate so there is bound to be a couple of > > glitches along the way. > > What suprised me about that was what X itself did. Without > resolutions defined, I expected 640x480, not some very high > resolution. I wonder if my display would have survived after a bit > of time. > > I do like the Gentoo approach. But I will be glad when a new stable > release is available. I am suprised at how many things are masked. > Even after the new stable release a lot of things will be effectively "masked." Gentoo has now moved to a stable vs. development philosophy, and packages will move into the stable designation more slowly. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:58:12 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't X use a standard set of mode lines if it can't find any. And I > believe it selects the highest res that is allowed. How does it determine the highest allowed for the display? My display is PnP (it gets the name and model from the display itself). Does it get information about this as well? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:25:12 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ? > > A while back there was a post on the gentoo mail list that a fonts dir > location was missing in X and had to be edited. I can not remember exactly > > what that was. A search of gentoo lists should get you that info. I'll > look for it later and if I locate that post I'll forward it to you. I had > to add the resolutions to my XF86Config after configuring X which I > thought was rather odd. We must keep in mind that it is a release > candidate so there is bound to be a couple of glitches along the way. What suprised me about that was what X itself did. Without resolutions defined, I expected 640x480, not some very high resolution. I wonder if my display would have survived after a bit of time. I do like the Gentoo approach. But I will be glad when a new stable release is available. I am suprised at how many things are masked. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 06:58:12PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > Doesn't X use a standard set of mode lines if it can't find any. And I > believe it selects the highest res that is allowed. Correct. -- The trouble with a kitten is that When it grows up, it's always a cat -- Ogden Nash. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
Doesn't X use a standard set of mode lines if it can't find any. And I believe it selects the highest res that is allowed. > Hate to reply to my own post, but no one else has... > > The odd thing was that the X config file created by X did not have any > resolution lines. Not even one. I would have expected it to not work, or > to come up in 640x480. Not the very high resolution. > >> -- >> ++===+ >> | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | >> | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | >> | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | >> | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | >> | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | >> ++===+ >> >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt <>< Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
On Thursday 05 December 2002 00:21, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > The X stuff was installed as a dependency of kde and kde runs fine, > > except fonts are too small. I tried running gnome, but it complained that > > some needed fonts were not found. Very odd as the font directories all > > seem to have what I expect, the font.xxx files seem complete, and the X > > server log lists that these directories will be used. I think the problem > > is not finding the fonts. It is serving them. > > > > Any gentoo-specific pointers? A while back there was a post on the gentoo mail list that a fonts dir location was missing in X and had to be edited. I can not remember exactly what that was. A search of gentoo lists should get you that info. I'll look for it later and if I locate that post I'll forward it to you. I had to add the resolutions to my XF86Config after configuring X which I thought was rather odd. We must keep in mind that it is a release candidate so there is bound to be a couple of glitches along the way. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1 sent with Kmail 1.4.3 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo again
Hate to reply to my own post, but no one else has... I have sorted out the problem. I configured the X server with X -configure. It seemed to work. My display is a PnP one so it could read the model number. Oddly, it choose a very high resolution (1920x1024 - or something like that). It then decided that the screen resolution was 152x152 dpi. So, when choosing even the biggest font, it appeared very small. I then took an X config file that I use in another OS, and the fonts are more what I expect. The resolution is 1120xsomething, which is better on a 15" display. The odd thing was that the X config file created by X did not have any resolution lines. Not even one. I would have expected it to not work, or to come up in 640x480. Not the very high resolution. As to gnome, I get an error on startup about fonts not found. It sends me to a bug discussion that says to upgrade to X 4.2, as there is a problem in earlier render libs. Well, I am running X 4.2.1 (from gentoo's emerge), and the error persists. Anyone running gnome on gentoo 1.4 rc1 ?? On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:39:22 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Back in the office now. > > I installed the 1.4 Gentoo a bit back. I have a problem with fonts. > They are all too small. I have tried changing them, but, even though there > are many installed on the system, I seem not to be able to use them. Most > print as a much much smaller font. Getting anything over 1-2 millimeters > in height is not possible. > > I have been careful that I have the font directories listed properly in my > X config file. I do not think the problem is there. > > Does gentoo use Xfs to serve fonts rather than the X server itself? If > so, need I do anything after 'emerge kde' to set up the fonts? I have > turned off and on the font anti-aliasing to no effect. Right now, I just > want to see 'bad old' X fonts of the size I specify. > > The X stuff was installed as a dependency of kde and kde runs fine, except > fonts are too small. I tried running gnome, but it complained that some > needed fonts were not found. Very odd as the font directories all seem to > have what I expect, the font.xxx files seem complete, and the X server log > lists that these directories will be used. I think the problem is not > finding the fonts. It is serving them. > > Any gentoo-specific pointers? > > -- > ++===+ > | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | > | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | > | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | > | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | > ++===+ > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
gentoo again
Back in the office now. I installed the 1.4 Gentoo a bit back. I have a problem with fonts. They are all too small. I have tried changing them, but, even though there are many installed on the system, I seem not to be able to use them. Most print as a much much smaller font. Getting anything over 1-2 millimeters in height is not possible. I have been careful that I have the font directories listed properly in my X config file. I do not think the problem is there. Does gentoo use Xfs to serve fonts rather than the X server itself? If so, need I do anything after 'emerge kde' to set up the fonts? I have turned off and on the font anti-aliasing to no effect. Right now, I just want to see 'bad old' X fonts of the size I specify. The X stuff was installed as a dependency of kde and kde runs fine, except fonts are too small. I tried running gnome, but it complained that some needed fonts were not found. Very odd as the font directories all seem to have what I expect, the font.xxx files seem complete, and the X server log lists that these directories will be used. I think the problem is not finding the fonts. It is serving them. Any gentoo-specific pointers? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
