Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Bruce H McIntosh]

On 8/31/19 3:43 PM, Peter Vollan wrote:

I think that the rubber bands thing was something that the user added
after buying the rubber bands somewhere such as club 100.

I actually like the clickety clack of the keyboard



I remember encountering my first M100 in class in the early 80s. The guy using 
it had done the rubber band trick to quiet the keyboard during class. He got 
the rubber bands from an orthodontist.


--

Bruce H. McIntosh   bhmcint...@gmail.com   www.afn.org/~scotsman   WA4UF

 Network geek with a strong affinity for Telecasters
 

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Ian Eure]

Tom Dison  writes:

I put rubber bands on mine in the early 90's because I wanted to 
take notes
at a 2-week training course I was taking. It would have been way 
too loud
otherwise. Asking the rubber bands was something I have up by 
myself, I

didn't know others did that too.

I have silicone o-rings on one of my mechanical keyboards.  It 
makes it a little quieter, but I like them for the change in 
typing feel -- it reduces the stroke and they bottom out more 
softly.


I didn’t know that the 100/102 used Alps/clone switches.  I wonder 
if they can be replaced with Matias clicky switches, which are my 
favorite.  You wouldn’t be able to do the caps lock switch, since 
it’s a push-push (mechanical toggling) switch and those have gone 
out of fashion.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Tom Dison]

I put rubber bands on mine in the early 90's because I wanted to take notes
at a 2-week training course I was taking. It would have been way too loud
otherwise. Asking the rubber bands was something I have up by myself, I
didn't know others did that too.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 14:44 Peter Vollan  wrote:

> I think that the rubber bands thing was something that the user added
> after buying the rubber bands somewhere such as club 100.
>
> I actually like the clickety clack of the keyboard
>
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 11:28, Josh Malone  wrote:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/48kRAM/status/1167594323141169154?s=09
> >
> > This is one that I'm cleaning now.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 2:22 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked
> up an old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for
> my desktop setup with a usb convertor.
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
> >>
> >> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches
> are alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and
> are very different feeling.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2
> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100,
> what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports
> folders there – I bet it doesn’t."
> >>>
> >>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
> >>>
> >>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't
> know about them.
> >>>
> >>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check
> any more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
> >>>
> >>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in
> "both" directions, forward and backwards.
> >>>
> >>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
> >>>
> >>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the
> main reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
> >>>
> >>> -- John.
> >>>
> >>>
>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Nick Shaner]

So Cool!!!


> On Aug 31, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Wayne Talbot  wrote:
> 
> I got the bands from club 100 and applied them to mine. It did not change the 
> feel of the keyboard but did quiet it.
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 2:43 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:
>> I think that the rubber bands thing was something that the user added
>> after buying the rubber bands somewhere such as club 100.
>> 
>> I actually like the clickety clack of the keyboard
>> 
>> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 11:28, Josh Malone  wrote:
>> >
>> > https://twitter.com/48kRAM/status/1167594323141169154?s=09
>> >
>> > This is one that I'm cleaning now.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 2:22 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked 
>> >> up an old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for 
>> >> my desktop setup with a usb convertor.
>> >> Nick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches are 
>> >> alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and are 
>> >> very different feeling.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2 
>> >>> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 
>> >>> 100, what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
>> >>>
>> >>> Nick
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders 
>> >>> there – I bet it doesn’t."
>> >>>
>> >>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
>> >>>
>> >>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't 
>> >>> know about them.
>> >>>
>> >>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any 
>> >>> more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
>> >>>
>> >>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both" 
>> >>> directions, forward and backwards.
>> >>>
>> >>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
>> >>>
>> >>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main 
>> >>> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- John.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> 

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Wayne Talbot]

I got the bands from club 100 and applied them to mine. It did not change
the feel of the keyboard but did quiet it.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 2:43 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

> I think that the rubber bands thing was something that the user added
> after buying the rubber bands somewhere such as club 100.
>
> I actually like the clickety clack of the keyboard
>
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 11:28, Josh Malone  wrote:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/48kRAM/status/1167594323141169154?s=09
> >
> > This is one that I'm cleaning now.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 2:22 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked
> up an old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for
> my desktop setup with a usb convertor.
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
> >>
> >> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches
> are alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and
> are very different feeling.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2
> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100,
> what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports
> folders there – I bet it doesn’t."
> >>>
> >>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
> >>>
> >>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't
> know about them.
> >>>
> >>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check
> any more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
> >>>
> >>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in
> "both" directions, forward and backwards.
> >>>
> >>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
> >>>
> >>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the
> main reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
> >>>
> >>> -- John.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Peter Vollan]

I think that the rubber bands thing was something that the user added
after buying the rubber bands somewhere such as club 100.

I actually like the clickety clack of the keyboard

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 11:28, Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> https://twitter.com/48kRAM/status/1167594323141169154?s=09
>
> This is one that I'm cleaning now.
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 2:22 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked up 
>> an old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for my 
>> desktop setup with a usb convertor.
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
>>
>> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches are 
>> alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and are 
>> very different feeling.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>>>
>>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2 
>>> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100, 
>>> what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>>>
>>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders 
>>> there – I bet it doesn’t."
>>>
>>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
>>>
>>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't know 
>>> about them.
>>>
>>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any 
>>> more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
>>>
>>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both" 
>>> directions, forward and backwards.
>>>
>>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
>>>
>>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main 
>>> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
>>>
>>> -- John.
>>>
>>>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Josh Malone]

https://twitter.com/48kRAM/status/1167594323141169154?s=09

This is one that I'm cleaning now.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 2:22 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:

> Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked up
> an old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for my
> desktop setup with a usb convertor.
> Nick
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches are
> alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and are
> very different feeling.
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>
>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2
>> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100,
>> what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>>
>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders
>> there – I bet it doesn’t."
>>
>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
>>
>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't
>> know about them.
>>
>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any
>> more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
>>
>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both"
>> directions, forward and backwards.
>>
>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
>>
>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main
>> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Nick Shaner]

Thanks Josh Didn't realize the M100 switches were alps. Just picked up an 
old apple board with (presumably) orange alps which works great for my desktop 
setup with a usb convertor. 
Nick



> On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:
> 
> No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches are 
> alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and are 
> very different feeling.
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:
>> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2 share 
>> the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100, what 
>> sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical? 
>> 
>> Nick
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders 
>>> there – I bet it doesn’t."
>>> 
>>> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
>>> 
>>> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't know 
>>> about them.
>>> 
>>> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any 
>>> more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
>>> 
>>> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both" 
>>> directions, forward and backwards.
>>> 
>>> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
>>> 
>>> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main 
>>> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
>>> 
>>> -- John.
>> 

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Josh Malone]

No - WP-2 is rubber membrane and very cost-reduced. M100 key switches are
alps. M102 key switches are alps clones that I haven't identified and are
very different feeling.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Nick Shaner  wrote:

> Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2
> share the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100,
> what sort of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical?
>
> Nick
>
> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>
> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders
> there – I bet it doesn’t."
>
> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
>
> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't know
> about them.
>
> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any
> more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
>
> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both"
> directions, forward and backwards.
>
> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
>
> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main
> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
>
> -- John.
>
>
>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Nick Shaner]

Very helpful info! For keyboard enthusiasts like myself, does the WP-2 share 
the M 100 keyboard? Also I have never popped a keycap off the M 100, what sort 
of switches are in these? I’m assuming mechanical? 

Nick
> On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
> 
> "  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders there 
> – I bet it doesn’t."
> 
> Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.
> 
> LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't know 
> about them.
> 
> DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any more 
> since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.
> 
> The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both" 
> directions, forward and backwards.
> 
> TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.
> 
> The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main 
> reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.
> 
> -- John.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[John R. Hogerhuis]

"  I haven’t tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports folders
there – I bet it doesn’t."

Nope. The directory extensions are TS-DOS + Desklink specific.

LaddieAlpha implements the directory extensions, but the WP-2 doesn't know
about them.

DLplus also works with WP-2 last time I checked. I just don't check any
more since I focus support on LaddieAlpha.

The main thing that the WP-2 expects is directory enumeration in "both"
directions, forward and backwards.

TS-DOS only enumerates the directory in the forward order.

The WP-2 uses the "GET-PREVIOUS" entry TPDD command and that's the main
reason why other emulators don't work with the WP-2.

-- John.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Josh Malone]

MComm for android works fine with my WP-2. However, you have to remember to
save the file on arch on the WP-2 -- by default it saves the file on some
unreadable binary format.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 6:31 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> I think that LaddieAlpha is a better bet when trying to work with a WP-2.
> Not having a WP-2 myself, mComm has never been tested with it. I have heard
> from one person who said it worked, but two others who say it didn't. Odds
> are it doesn't work properly. If you do go the mComm route, make sure
> whatever cable you use matches the one in the manual.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
>
> CloudT looks cool! Thanks for the replies, love reading the forum.
> Thinking I may have to go TPDD route. I did see a null modem to usb cable
> and a usb adaptor to use for MComm on android: Would this be an easier way
> to transfer text? What about a WP-2: is this the same serial transfer as
> the Model T?
>
> Thanks All
>
> On Aug 26, 2019, at 10:44 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
> An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to emulate a
> TPDD emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.
>
>
> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/mComm%20Android
>
> Here is a picture of what I use 95% of the time. The three floppy disks
> are there for size comparison. Sadly, the only way to make this portable is
> with an external battery. I've done that, but I'd rather use my Android
> phone when I want to go mobile.
>
> Kurt
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
>
> Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion
> with an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app?
> I apologize if this is too off topic
> Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of
> the TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the
> excellent keyboard)
> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Willard
> > If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe
> share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a
> smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with
> terminal software and cables.
>
>
>

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Jim Anderson]

My experience with the WP-2 is that LaddieAlpha works very, very well and 
supports everything I tried (including the 'copy all files' command).  After 
specifying the com port on the command line, add the parameter '8' so that 
LaddieAlpha supports 8.2 character filenames (I forget the exact details, but I 
think I ended up with some filenames padded with spaces if I left it at 6.2 
character support).  The command would then be something like 'laddiealpha com2 
8'.

I don't remember what happened when I tried using the WP-2 with mComm for 
Windows, but with mComm on the Android platform it definitely has problems.  I 
can copy a file to mComm from the WP-2 (I use this when mobile to back up notes 
I've taken) but of course they can only be put in the root of mComm's data 
folder, and I am pretty sure it doesn't work if the filename is longer than 6.2 
characters (it's been a long time since I tried, and I keep my filenames to 6.2 
for compatibility).

Attempting to list the directory or copy files out of mComm into the WP-2 is 
very limited... as soon as you start to scroll down the list of file names 
turns into six repetitions of the file name at the bottom of the list, and you 
can sometimes copy that file into the WP-2, but you can't scroll back up the 
list, and you definitely can't descend into subfolders.

(Having said that, I haven't tried with LaddieAlpha to see if the WP-2 supports 
folders there - I bet it doesn't.)

Another thing to note with the WP-2 is that the file format is proprietary.  
Model T .DO files are plain ASCII text with the MS-DOS/Windows line terminator 
sequence (CR LF).  While Linux and other Unix-type systems (including MacOS 
10.x) use a single LF line terminator in text files, the WP-2 does what the OLD 
non-Unix MacOS (9.x and older) used to do, and uses a single CR line terminator.

On top of that, the .DO files have a proprietary header and embedded formatting 
information in them (see http://bitchin100.com/files/wp2/wp2format.html).  I've 
made a small shell script to strip that and give you just the text of the file, 
but you can also save a document as plain text within the WP-2.  This will make 
a .DA file which is plain ASCII, but still with a single CR line terminator, so 
I have another shell script to turn that back into CR LF (for Model T or 
Windows compatibility) or single LF (for Linux/Mac/etc)...

Actually I have several scripts for handling different cases.  They're not 
complex (leveraging tools like sed and grep) but they have embedded control 
characters so I can't exactly paste them here in the email.  (I'm still hoping 
to get a personal library folder on club100.org, whoever looks after that...)







jim

From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Kurt McCullum
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 15:31
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] status of the m100

I think that LaddieAlpha is a better bet when trying to work with a WP-2. Not 
having a WP-2 myself, mComm has never been tested with it. I have heard from 
one person who said it worked, but two others who say it didn't. Odds are it 
doesn't work properly. If you do go the mComm route, make sure whatever cable 
you use matches the one in the manual.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
CloudT looks cool! Thanks for the replies, love reading the forum. Thinking I 
may have to go TPDD route. I did see a null modem to usb cable and a usb 
adaptor to use for MComm on android: Would this be an easier way to transfer 
text? What about a WP-2: is this the same serial transfer as the Model T?

Thanks All
On Aug 26, 2019, at 10:44 PM, Kurt McCullum 
mailto:ku...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to emulate a TPDD 
emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/mComm%20Android

Here is a picture of what I use 95% of the time. The three floppy disks are 
there for size comparison. Sadly, the only way to make this portable is with an 
external battery. I've done that, but I'd rather use my Android phone when I 
want to go mobile.

Kurt



On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion with 
an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app? I 
apologize if this is too off topic
Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of the 
TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the excellent 
keyboard)
> On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy 
> mailto:s0n1c.x4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Willard
> If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe 
> share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a 
> smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with 
> terminal software and cables.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Kurt McCullum]

I think that LaddieAlpha is a better bet when trying to work with a WP-2. Not 
having a WP-2 myself, mComm has never been tested with it. I have heard from 
one person who said it worked, but two others who say it didn't. Odds are it 
doesn't work properly. If you do go the mComm route, make sure whatever cable 
you use matches the one in the manual.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
> CloudT looks cool! Thanks for the replies, love reading the forum. Thinking I 
> may have to go TPDD route. I did see a null modem to usb cable and a usb 
> adaptor to use for MComm on android: Would this be an easier way to transfer 
> text? What about a WP-2: is this the same serial transfer as the Model T? 
> 
> Thanks All
>> On Aug 26, 2019, at 10:44 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>> 
>> An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to emulate a 
>> TPDD emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.
>> 
>> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/mComm%20Android
>> 
>> Here is a picture of what I use 95% of the time. The three floppy disks are 
>> there for size comparison. Sadly, the only way to make this portable is with 
>> an external battery. I've done that, but I'd rather use my Android phone 
>> when I want to go mobile.
>> 
>> Kurt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
>>> Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion 
>>> with an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app? 
>>> I apologize if this is too off topic
>>> Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of 
>>> the TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the 
>>> excellent keyboard)
>>> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy  
>>> > wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi, Willard 
>>> > If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe 
>>> > share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a 
>>> > smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with 
>>> > terminal software and cables.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Nick Shaner]

CloudT looks cool! Thanks for the replies, love reading the forum. Thinking I 
may have to go TPDD route. I did see a null modem to usb cable and a usb 
adaptor to use for MComm on android: Would this be an easier way to transfer 
text? What about a WP-2: is this the same serial transfer as the Model T? 

Thanks All
> On Aug 26, 2019, at 10:44 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
> 
> An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to emulate a 
> TPDD emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.
> 
> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/mComm%20Android
>  
> 
> 
> Here is a picture of what I use 95% of the time. The three floppy disks are 
> there for size comparison. Sadly, the only way to make this portable is with 
> an external battery. I've done that, but I'd rather use my Android phone when 
> I want to go mobile.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
>> Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion 
>> with an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app? I 
>> apologize if this is too off topic
>> Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of 
>> the TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the 
>> excellent keyboard)
>> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi, Willard  
>> > If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe 
>> > share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a 
>> > smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with 
>> > terminal software and cables.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Kurt McCullum]

An easy way to test your tablet is to get one of those micro-usb/OTG adapters 
and plug a USB memory stick into it. If your tablet sees the memory stick, it 
supports OTG. The adapters run about $2 from US sellers and less that a buck 
from China. But I have found the extra dollar is worth not waiting the 6 weeks 
it takes for the adapter to arrive.

Kurt

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Willard Goosey wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:44:21 -0700
> "Kurt McCullum"  wrote:
> 
> > An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to
> > emulate a TPDD emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.
> > 
> I need to see if my current tablet supports OTG. If it does it might
> become the portable PDD drive. :-)
> 
> Willard
> -- 
> Willard Goosey goo...@sdc.org
> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>  -- R.E. Howard
> 

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Willard Goosey]

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:44:21 -0700
"Kurt McCullum"  wrote:

> An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to
> emulate a TPDD emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.
> 
I need to see if my current tablet supports OTG. If it does it might
become the portable PDD drive. :-)

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Willard Goosey]

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 22:51:26 +0300
Serhiy Sosonniy  wrote:

> Hi, Willard
> If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? 

Opposite direction actually, I was playing .wavs from:
http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm

into my m100 to get the actual files because I am teh 3vi1 P1r@t3 d00d

IIRC I got calc and starblaze from somewhere else, but they are on the
Net if you look a little (translation: I don't remember where I got
them :)

16 bits and a dead man's disk, yo ho ho and a bottle of jolt!
Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Willard Goosey]

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 06:27:27 -0400
Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> Hi Wllard,
> If you know can you tell me
> 1.  What the firmware installed in rex was before the failure.

4.8 from bitchin100

> 2.  What firmware are you using now.

r49_m100t102_254_rebuild


> 
> Thx Steve
> 
Not that I'm blaming REX... I think my m100 may be in need of a new
NiCAD, and had RAM corruption that hosed the RAM images. :-(



-- 
Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Kurt McCullum]

An android phone (or TV Box) can be setup with the mComm app to emulate a TPDD 
emulator. But no known solutions for iPhone.

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/mComm%20Android

Here is a picture of what I use 95% of the time. The three floppy disks are 
there for size comparison. Sadly, the only way to make this portable is with an 
external battery. I've done that, but I'd rather use my Android phone when I 
want to go mobile.

Kurt


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Nick Shaner wrote:
> Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion 
> with an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app? I 
> apologize if this is too off topic
> Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of the 
> TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the excellent 
> keyboard)
> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Willard 
> > If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe 
> > share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a 
> > smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with 
> > terminal software and cables.
> 
> 

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Yes, but no one has done the work.

Theoretically, yes an iPhone app could record the audio of a model t saving
a cassette file and then decode it, turn it into a file and share it with
some other app (like Google Drive).

But no one has written an app to capture the content and do the decoding of
the cassette file format.

Obviously not the same thing but if you want to skip the middle man you can
run CloudT on your iPhone :-)

https://bitchin100.com/CloudT

-- John

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Nick Shaner]

Pardon my potential ignorance but could this option be used in conjuntion with 
an iphone to transfer text from the Model T to, say, the notepad app? I 
apologize if this is too off topic
Still have not found an easy (for me) option for transferring text off of the 
TRS-80 (am interested in the machine for its portability and the excellent 
keyboard)
> On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Serhiy Sosonniy  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Willard  
> If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe 
> share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a 
> smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with 
> terminal software and cables.

[M100] status of the m100

[Serhiy Sosonniy]

Hi, Willard
If I understand correctly, you digitized all your tapes? Could you maybe
share them? I found it is way more convenient to just connect M100 to a
smartphone by audio cable and upload needed software than to fiddle with
terminal software and cables.

Re: [M100] status of the m100

[Stephen Adolph]

Hi Wllard,
If you know can you tell me
1.  What the firmware installed in rex was before the failure.
2.  What firmware are you using now.

Thx Steve

On Monday, August 26, 2019, Willard Goosey  wrote:

> Haven't said much here lately... Let me see, what m100 stuff have I
> been doing?...
>
> My pocketchip, which was my main pdd server, died. fortunately the day
> after I backed up all the m100 stuff... :-)
>
> My REX corrupted itself and I upgraded to 4.9 when I rebuilt it, files
> were lost :-(
>
> Messed around with the m100 as a terminal. Installed m100 terminfo
> files. Lynx wants 4 lines of text for its ui? Pathetic!!! ;-)
>
> Played a bunch of .wav files at my m100. I do believe I now have almost
> all the old Tandy tape software. CALC.BA is probably the most useful of
> the bunch, followed by Starblaze and maybe Personal Finance (I
> haven't really tried out Specaculator, but if it's as weak as the
> CoCo version it'll be pretty sad). ;-)
>
> I'd read horror stories about trying to load m100 data files from tape,
> but these worked fine. I guess they weren't large enough to trigger the
> bugs?
>
> Willard
> --
> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>   -- R.E. Howard
>

[M100] status of the m100

[Willard Goosey]

Haven't said much here lately... Let me see, what m100 stuff have I
been doing?...

My pocketchip, which was my main pdd server, died. fortunately the day
after I backed up all the m100 stuff... :-)

My REX corrupted itself and I upgraded to 4.9 when I rebuilt it, files
were lost :-(

Messed around with the m100 as a terminal. Installed m100 terminfo
files. Lynx wants 4 lines of text for its ui? Pathetic!!! ;-)

Played a bunch of .wav files at my m100. I do believe I now have almost
all the old Tandy tape software. CALC.BA is probably the most useful of
the bunch, followed by Starblaze and maybe Personal Finance (I
haven't really tried out Specaculator, but if it's as weak as the
CoCo version it'll be pretty sad). ;-)

I'd read horror stories about trying to load m100 data files from tape,
but these worked fine. I guess they weren't large enough to trigger the
bugs?

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard