Re: about Qt 5.x and OS X 10.6

2015-03-21 Thread James Linder

> On 22 Mar 2015, at 3:00 am, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
> 
>> Just one data point, but the next version of 
>> MythTV (0.28) is going to require Qt 5.2 at a 
>> minimum.  Their reasoning:
> 
> Well, there is already a Qt 5 in MacPorts. Except that until now installing 
> it conflicts with port:qt4-mac ...
> 
>> So I think if we can support Qt 5.3 on OS X 10.6, 
>> that would be ideal.  Of course it still remains 
> 
> The current port:qt5-mac is Qt 5.3.2 . The fact it doesn't co-install with Qt 
> 4 is just one of its issues, but it *should* build on 10.6 .


I’ve got 5.3 and 5.4 running from the Qt installer

   digression:
   what a pain to install like 12 hours each
   for a customer 1 installed the licensed version, boy complete install in an 
hour
   ie you pay you get fast downloads

Why can’t / doesnt macports do what Qt does - a complete directory for each 
install eg for me /opt/Qt5.3 /opt/Qt5.4 the only file I *need* to access is 
qmake. I guess the versions of designer and creator need to be wellKnown too.

James
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Re: about Qt 5.x and OS X 10.6

2015-03-21 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Saturday March 21 2015 12:08:03 Craig Treleaven wrote:

> Just one data point, but the next version of 
> MythTV (0.28) is going to require Qt 5.2 at a 
> minimum.  Their reasoning:

Well, there is already a Qt 5 in MacPorts. Except that until now installing it 
conflicts with port:qt4-mac ...

> So I think if we can support Qt 5.3 on OS X 10.6, 
> that would be ideal.  Of course it still remains 

The current port:qt5-mac is Qt 5.3.2 . The fact it doesn't co-install with Qt 4 
is just one of its issues, but it *should* build on 10.6 .
I solved the co-installability issue, then migrated the port to 5.4.x and 
resolved other issues as I ran into them. I'm now looking into backport that to 
Qt 5.3.2, as said ideally with if/else constructs in a unique Portfile. That's 
proving to be more of a challenge than I thought and I haven't yet managed to 
put the finger on the difference that causes my build to fail. I've been 
breaking out the directory-diff tools in what's a nice stress-test of those 
very tools (given the size of a Qt source tree ...)

> OTOH, Core2 Duo macs can run OS X 10.7 so the 
> door is open for them to support Qt 5.4, I 
> suppose.

AFAIAC the argument is not just whether a system can run a newer OS version. 
It's been only a few months now that I'm running 10.9; until mid december 2014 
I was under 10.6.8 simply because 1) it worked just fine and fast 2) I had no 
reason to upgrade and 3) I had a good reason not to: Rosetta and a couple of 
licenses for PPC versions of Adobe software I'm not going to renew as long as I 
have a way to keep running the versions I already "own".

R.
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Re: about Qt 5.x and OS X 10.6

2015-03-21 Thread Craig Treleaven

At 9:46 PM +0100 3/20/15, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

...
I don't like the idea of holding off on Qt 5.4 
for the sake of "SL" (much as I love it), nor do 
I like the idea of dropping Qt 5 support for 
"SL" (because I love it too much for that :))
So I am now exploring an option that may be a 
bit unusual: OS-specific port versions. Nothing 
as fancy as it seems: for OS X 10.6 users 
port:qt5-mac-devel will appear to be at 5.3.2 
and for all other users it will appear to be at 
5.4.x .


Just one data point, but the next version of 
MythTV (0.28) is going to require Qt 5.2 at a 
minimum.  Their reasoning:


At 10:47 AM + 3/1/15, Stuart Morgan wrote:

*5.2 was selected as the minimum version as this is the lowest version offered
by all [Linux] distros we surveyed. We won't 
rule out a move to a more recent version,

i.e. 5.4 which is already available for most distros sometime before the
release.


So I think if we can support Qt 5.3 on OS X 10.6, 
that would be ideal.  Of course it still remains 
to be seem if OSX 10.6/Qt 5.3/Myth 0.28 is 
actually performs reasonably well on older 
hardware (ie Core2 Duo macs).  Any older machines 
are 32 bit and, for Myth, really can't keep up.


OTOH, Core2 Duo macs can run OS X 10.7 so the 
door is open for them to support Qt 5.4, I 
suppose.


Craig

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Re: about Qt 5.x and OS X 10.6

2015-03-21 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
> On Mar 20, 2015, at 4:46 PM, René J.V. Bertin  wrote:
> 
> So I am now exploring an option that may be a bit unusual: OS-specific port 
> versions. Nothing as fancy as it seems: for OS X 10.6 users 
> port:qt5-mac-devel will appear to be at 5.3.2 and for all other users it will 
> appear to be at 5.4.x .
> 
> I'm aware that this could set precedence

It wouldn't; the ld64 port used to do this until very recently.

vq
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